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there's been renewed fighting in the disputed in a corner or about region that's despite a cease fire signed 2 years ago. but will the truth hold? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammered from jerome armenia and as there by john are blaming each other for renewed fighting near the dispute region of nagondo caraballo. the area is recognized as part of his air by john, but it's mostly controlled by ethnic armenians. the latest violence has triggered calls for calm from russia, nato, and the european union, as they are by john's military says car by fighters targeted its positions in a district under the supervision of russian peacekeepers to car box troops. and an as air by johnny soldier were killed. i go no car box leader then announced

a partial military mobilization. as air by john accused armenia of breaking the 2020 ceasefire. or there were those because the death ella, the republic off as a bizarre, has repeatedly stated that the presence of armenian armed forces and illegal armenian armed formations in the territories of other by john, were rushing peacekeepers. a temporarily stationed remains a source of danger. contrary to the joint statement that the militarization of those territories, the complete withdrawal of armenian 3 and the disarmament of the illegal armenian armed detachments absolutely necessary, such as armine as prime minister responded by saying is thereby sean has repeatedly violated the cease fire. nicole passion. yon also criticize the role of russian peacekeepers should monger the year going corporate continuous and deteriorating violations of the sci fi regime along the contact line, the cases of physically and psychologically intimidating. the armenians of nagondo kara back,

and the presence of peacekeepers are simply unacceptable. it's becoming very necessary to clarify the details of the peacekeeping operation in the corner car back office. hostilities involves involving a going car back go back decades. air by john and armenia fought a 6 year war that ended in a cease fire in 1994 in 2016 and outbreak of violence killed dozens of people during 4 days of fighting. while the conflict in 2020 killed more than 5000 people, including both soldiers and civilians. in november that year, a russian brokerage cease fire in did the 6 week conflict. russian troops were then deployed in april. the armenian, and as or by johnny leaders agreed to hold talks mediated by the you a month later, thousands of armenians protested against their prime minister for making what they called unacceptable concessions to air by john the. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guess in yerevan. richard gira gozine, director of the regional study center is stumble. matthew bryce,

a former us ambassador, and mediator on the go, no car about conflict. he's also a board member at the jamestown foundation. and in bucko far is it's miles, are they vice rector at the air by john diplomatic academy? a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us on inside story today . far as let me start with you today from your vantage point. has the piece process totally broken down at this point? not totally, but there is a big disappointment because almost 2 years instead and of the war and the peak language, other by john offered armenia, consisting of neutral recognition of integrity, the opening of the border. the limitation of the borders has not been accepted by armine armenia, keep delaying the peace process, and no substantial progress has been made on. now the opening of communication and transport lines, as well as recognition of integrity was countries. so there is

a big disappointment in bunkerville and the frequent violations of fire by illegal armenian troops. most recently, 4 days ago, other by johnny soldier, has been killed. they show that the illegal criminal group, the legal gangs still call that big threats to the regional security. so that is the main reason for pessimism and for frustration in baku as well as in many european capital. and richard, from your perspective, do you think that there could be a whole new conflict between armenia and as her by john? and did this latest escalation come as a surprise? well, in many ways i'm concerned, i'm concerned largely because it's represents the most serious escalation of hostilities since the fragile fees fire of 2020. what worries me as well is the broader context algebra. john's attacks are not limited to targeting armenian forces in newborn on car law. this is an algebra johnny challenge to

russia, and the presence of the russian peacekeepers. meaning that the implications of a widening of this conflict are significant. nevertheless, armenia, i think, needs to re commit to diplomacy, armenia, and algebra. john need to reassert that. there is no resolution by military force. diplomatic negotiations are the only way forward. matthew, this latest violence has triggered calls for calm from russia, from nato, from the european union. what steps can be taken now to de escalate the situation? i mean, those parties are almost always calling for de escalation and getting back to negotiation. so specifically, what can happen? well, a, i hope there's a recognition by both sides, as you can hear from both parties in richard that you know, we don't want, nobody wants further conflict be as or by john's response or from richard. maybe as

perspective if they think by john maybe initiated this round of fighting, but it ended and it was limited and condolences to the 3 troops that were killed, but it was, it was limited and, and quite emphatic. so hopefully this round is finish. so what needs to happen, i think, is that prime minister pushing young needs to feel the political strengths to go forward, and not only finish implementation of the november 10th cease fire statement, which calls for all the armenian troops to depart calls for many other things too but also to move toward a negotiation on a border, the limitation between us or by john and armine other international border. i mean, and a final peace treaty for car box to settle accomplish once. and for all, i believe that prime minister pushing young really wants to do that as, as do, i believe the president wants to. but as you showed in your, in your opening package, as soon as pushing young said he'd sit hours,

foreign minister would sit down on his counterpart, there were street protests in armenia. so pushing on has been, he's been painted by his political opposition as well as coming treason by agreeing to the fees, fire, and then wanting to move ahead and normalizing relations with officer by john and restoring armenia, transportation context with us or by john to liter state of economic normalcy. so what really needs to happen is that, that political stand off in armenia and you've somehow to get worked through richard, let me ask you about something that matthew was just bringing up. there is a lot of anger in armenia, being directed toward prime minister passion yon. there was anger that was being direct toward him even after the cease fire agreement was finalized. because as part of that agreement, armenia had to give up swats of territory that it had controlled for decades. how much anger is still being directed toward the prime minister now and, and how much is that impacting his ability to actually finalize a peace agreement? well, in many ways what we see is lingering opposition. yes. but in effective opposition,

definitely much of the street demonstrations have failed to attract significant numbers. moreover, unlike officer bra, john armenia is much more vibrant democracy, armenia, government under prime minister, pos union has won reelection and the 2nd free and fair election. the last summer. there is a rare degree of legitimacy and armenia, which does reassure and also gives us hope to find a negotiated way out of this crisis. far as where do things stand right now when it comes to the government of his heir by john when it comes to signing a final piece agreement. what is the stance of the government? i think the vision that other by jeremy government has and has declared 2020 is that the region should be original piece, security corporation, mutual integration of economies. that's why their budget offered armenia to open

the communication lines. transport lines are there by johnny's investing. a lot of things that the construction will be caught liberated areas. many railways, airports are being billed. so the reason is that we should achieve long lasting and durable. but unfortunately, there are obstacles. feel a lot. one of them is that steel, illegal armenian troops, are located in areas which are controlled by these capers. and the 2nd problem is that armine, are the 2 to be tricky. so these are the problems that are you a heads up and other by jenny didn't think that pete street should be signed and that borders should be opened and trade and communication lines should be restored . in fact, if you look at the infrastructure, other by john already finished many highways and railways, but armenia still keeps delaying. the construction on their own was richard. i saw you are reacting to some of what far as i was saying there, did you want to jump in? well, yes, i do want to offer one clarification. the armed forces,

the military units present in the gordon car law, are not under the control. ready or command of armenia proper. these are local units of the democratically elected in the border car about leadership. so there is an important distinction. it's also a recognition of the limits of armenian influence and control. what we're focused on in armenia is much more the implementation of the terms of the cease fire agreement as a foundation for eventual peace treaty or agreement. but it's difficult to disagree with for ease because we share the same goals and objectives of regional peace and stability. nevertheless, i do think the recent attacks, the recent fighting in the past days have only demonstrated be imperative for greater engagement by the west, by the european union, to facilitate diplomatic engagement between armenia and algebra. john and i do

think the blaming, the victim approach will not work as far as i saw you just now reacting to what richard was saying. so i'm going to give you a chance now to go ahead and jump in. yes, i just wanted to say that it's not true that the forces in color only belonging to local population. there are many evidences that bosses and other draw up transporting armenian soldiers from republic or bar menia took on a block. and even some of those videos showed that or soldiers themselves, acknowledging that so this is not exactly true that is fighting for its own. and then also the soldier that as a budget, a soldier that was killed 4 days ago, this is the one, this is what triggered the response from either by a fight. so these shootings in violations are constantly happen towards other by johnny serviceman, as well as other by jenny civilians doing the construction work in matthew,

there are analysts who have said that while russia has the most influence in attempting to keep the peace in the region, its resources are being stretched because of the war in ukraine. has the russian peacekeeping effort in the corner car box been impacted by the war in ukraine. and if so, how much? yeah, i think it has to have that. i mean, it's difficult to, you know, measure something that, you know, i lack of, of activity or lack of further conflicts, right? to quantify that, but, you know, rush is reputation has been devastated as a mediator. right? i mean, if it has invaded not only ukraine twice recently, but also neighboring georgia, it's prestige as a, as a peacemaker or piece keeper is, is quite diminished. already. russian peacekeepers have a terrible reputation from the way they behaved in georgia and moved over where they've they stirred mission rather than kept the piece. and they've been creating pieces of countries rather than piece. having said that,

i think the russian peacekeepers have performed pretty well. so far, there was an instance shortly after the right after the november 2020 cease fire statement that could have spun out of control and russian forces redeployed and were able to defuse the situation. but yeah, the russian military is terribly stretched. and as we know, your estimates are that of the 150000 troops that were arrayed against ukraine as of february 24th 75000 have suffered casualties. according to the british ministry of defense, either deaths or injuries in russia has been moving troops from, from the far east into ukraine. so of course, that that has an impact on how robust the russian peacekeeping operation could be. but again, it's, it's done a pretty good job. i think it would be great though, if maybe the turkish presence was augmented in terms of keeping eyes and ears on the russian forces. no, there's a very small russian archer, turkish peacekeeping. contention in i've done it

a joint peacekeeping observation center. and i think also it's really important that the european union plays an increasingly significant role in the negotiations between the leadership. even if not in peacekeeping. o matthew, you know, you bring up the you there, and of course the you is presenting itself as a potential mediator. in fact, in may the hosted armenian prime minister nichol passion, yon. and as there by johnny president ill. hm. aaliyah in brussels, that was the 2nd time that they'd been hosted there for talks on how to avert future clashes. do you believe that there were encouraging signs that came out of those talks? yeah, there definitely was. and it was, you know, it looked like the 2 leaders of the armenian azerbaijan, you know, found a certain degree of chemistry and wanted to move ahead with the various agreements after november 2020, in particular, an agreement from january, 11th, 2021. that called for joint projects, infrastructure projects to be developed jointly among azerbaijan,

armenia and russia. but then there was no backlash in armenia. richard is right, that armenia is a vibrant democracy that nichol pushing yon was or his political move and won a resounding victory a year ago in june, which helped him consolidate his strength against his opponents. but nonetheless, precisely because armine is a vibrant democracy, there are these forces in armenia that still, they haven't quite, some haven't quite come to grips with the fact that this, this military conflict is over. and it's time to move forward as all wars end with a diplomatic negotiation and a lasting, hopefully lasting peace. richard, what do you think about how effective the you can be in all this i'm, i mean, can they be particularly effective if they don't have any presence on the ground? well, to be honest, they already have been effective. the you has been able to not mediate what facilitate providing a platform for armenia and also for john to engage. and fortunately you engage ment

is much less provocative. been say us engagement or nato expansion in terms of the russian reaction. and in this context, where we're going in terms of host war stability is an endorsement of you principles of engagement connectivity, a peaceful resolution to inherently political conflicts. so i think the, you and only the e u is best position to leverage the synergy of political will going forward. what's most important, though, i do think is the need to engage diplomatically with the audience in the border. horrible, for example, armenia, algebra, john's bilateral issues are important, but quite separate from the security and safety of the armenians in the car law. so i do think we need to broaden and deepen the peace process. for is i want to take

a step back and look for a moment with you at the russian peacekeeping efforts. how effective do you, do you think that they have been thoroughly, they have been quite effective, i would say, because they are helping to preserve stability and security and not a huge you know, not many huge cases of violations of fire uptake and play. but of course, there are some questions to them as well, from other by johnny side. for example, when some illegal armenian soldiers were transported from our menia republic of armenia. it has been disappointing to see that the russian peacekeepers law that they had also been some high level politicians, including given french presidential candidates who have managed illegally to visit the car boss. this is not very welcome by other by john other, but john, consider that these that part will be duly integrity. and therefore,

ration peacekeepers should by buying the national law. well, i believe that in the future there will be opportunities to improve their work, go brush and peacekeepers. and most importantly, in terms of making sure that illegal armenian groups and less than 3 groups will be finally withdrawn from the car box. as it is the belated by november, fire agreement, or try level statement of the leaders effort. if i could just follow up with you, you know, you have on the one hand or what the russians are doing. and then you have these mediation attempts by the you, the fact that there seem to be dual tracks right now. does that complicate the situation more? not so much. i would say they complement each other because you're mostly overs, financial and economic incentives. they're hoping package for the construction of the area of monetary and then the mining activities truck building activities are issues related to you for your developing order delineation russians are more

focusing on hard security and, and making sure that violations of don't take place. so i think they're mutually complimentary even rushing me to a point that they don't feel any, let's say the danger or hesitation by your involvement. so i think that they're both positive trucks. at the same time, richard to look to me like you were nodding along a moment ago. did you want to jump in? yes, i agree with far is very much because what we see is a unique paradox. where despite russian aggression, despite russia's unjustified invasion of ukraine, its previous invasion of georgia, what the russian peacekeepers represent is a rare guarantee of security and safety on the ground with you engaged in what we also see to use for uses words, a complimentary not a contradictory approach because anyone engagement will only tend to legitimize

what was a unilateral rushing peacekeeping deployment. because after all, even the cease fire agreement was crafted by russia and imposed by russia. nevertheless, it's the best we have on the ground. matthew, how much concern is there right now that the fighting could get worse and, and how unstable might things get in, in the region if, if that plays out that way. personally, i'm not so concerned that it's going to this fighting is going to spin out of control. i think that neither president leave nor prime minister pushing on want that to happen. i think pushing young wants to desperately to do well what, what richard has been kind of suggesting which is have car boss be gaining some sort of a legal status at the negotiate in table. that is, other than unequivocally part of us or by john this, this is the core of what remains to be negotiated from us, or by john's perspective. that's impossible. you know,

the military phase of the war ended. and there was a possibility for the status of nicole car about to be on the table and prime minister pushing on didn't agree to that. but now pushing on, i think is saying, well, we do want to negotiate that point. and as well as, by the way, the french foreign minister on the day that i was or by john signed the cease fire statement, said the same thing, that status ought to be back on the table. so this is the big issue. i think it's a political legal issue. i don't think either side wants to resume large scale military operations, but there are those who wish to stir the pot. russia is not among those. and the national leaders, i think of armine and also by john, are not among those people. so matthew, if both sides, as you said, you know, really are eager to eventually find some kind of treaty or formal peace agreement. why had been so difficult to try to, you know, broker this? i think it's simply the case that there is fear on the armenian leadership side,

that there's such a maybe not huge as richard was saying. but vocal opposition, that even has included physical threats. the passion in the survival where he is deemed again to be a traitor to armenia for having signed the agreement. so you'll remember back in the late ninety's, there was a horrible incident when there were also, there was some movement toward a car box settlement where there was an assassination on the floor of the parliament of armenia. that led to the that's some of the been prime minister and speaker of parliament. so it was our meeting politics can get quite dicey. and i think even though the national leader might want to move ahead, he knows his history. he's being careful. matthew, just also very quickly, i mean, you ultimately think that this will be finalized and that this, you know, a treaty will actually be signed. i do think so. i don't know when, though the timing depends entirely on how quickly the national debate in armenia moves ahead to one of saying ok, the war is over. we need to settle once for all and integrate our economy back into

the region versus those who say we will never give up. it's humiliation to even believe that we would trade the blood of our fallen copatrick. it's and the, and the, the, the independence or the sovereignty of car box for some economic benefits, that debate still us to play out in armenia. but i think the momentum is moving in favor of a peace treaty, as evidenced by a pushing young political victory in last june's a year ago. june's parliamentary elections. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave our conversation there today. thanks so much. all of our guests richard gear go see and matthew brycer and mary's is miles on it. and thank you for watching because he the program again, any time visiting our website, al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ag inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are at a j inside story from how much german the entire team here. and uh huh. bye for now . the

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