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been killed, is really government said it was targeting members of his slamming jihad. but palestinian officials say at least a 3rd of those who died of been civilians to senior leaders of the andrea were killed, suffered on hulu, has more form garzon. this cease fire is still holding. now even local governmental offices, or public offices also announced that they will re open their doors for public university is also announced that they will open open their doors that they closed earlier because because of the escalation for force, they will open their lords for students also the municipality of garza and other municipalities. i also the announced that they will deploy anson there, a coup minns to remove their i bill on try to do the initial assessment for the destruction. the u. s. senate has passed. president jo biden's,
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end. so what's leader to deliver permanent piece? and how does this latest round of attacks jeopardize mediation efforts made so far? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm dead, you navigate on israel has carried out a 3rd day of air strikes on gaza. the military says it's targeting the positions of arm groups including palestinian islamic jihad, but it's civilians who are bearing the brunt of the worst violin since last year's 11 day war. dozens of people including children, have been killed since friday. that's when israel launched the attacks to prevent the islamic jihad for retaliating after the arrest of one of its commanders in the
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occupied west bank. the arm group has fired more than 500 rockets into israel, palestinian prime minister, and how much stay says the cycle of violence must stop. i know how one with a cutter, and this happens once a year, every few months. the aggression on gaza. this aggression should stop once and for all why we cannot just the sloane to stop one aggression so that israel can carry out another aggression later. and this shall be referred to the international criminal court. and the fall this on the table in front of the international criminal court. well, let's take a look at some of the efforts to end. the violence and egyptian intelligence delegation visited israel on saturday before traveling to gaza on sunday. cuts are a mediator in last year as conflicts have spent billions of dollars helping to rebuild gaza. it has reaffirmed support for palestinians while calling for international pressure on israel to stop attacking civilians. the u. s. department says it stands by israel's right to defend itself. other countries,
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including morocco and the united arab emirates, have previously offered to help mediate between the israelis and the palestinians. ah, let's bring in our guest. joining us from dublin is the asset and who is an academic and specialist on the israeli palestinian conflict in cambridge? boston, is that the hoody a professor at the american university, a bay ruth and a senior fellow at the harvard kennedy school. and joining us from washington, d. c is down our belt scholar and residence at the center for is really studies at the american university. dan's also a former is really diplomatic negotiator in the israel syria piece talks warm welcome to you all. thanks so much for joining us on inside story. yes of us are over in dublin you say that if we see some sort of ceasefire or mediation agreement, it will be similar to previous agreements. you say that the short term views are the real problem. can you explain that thought process?
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yes, course, i think, as i said before, what we have seen in recent years is short term agreements. but to address the core issues in terms of palestinian rights in terms of national rights in terms of the wind, its way to kind of thing and conflict that what we're seeing recently in terms of gaza is a special focus on human history and is a special focus on short term security and a focus on the fraction which hasn't been read happening in the recent years. so as a result of the core issues including pallets and you arrive in a few things just including the nation 3 and the occupation in the archive. all of those issues haven't been addressed in those mediation, short term agreements,
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and therefore i think the issues are going to continue. the conflict is going to continue or what we have seen as well. only a shirt, short term process in terms of managing this issue. but we also have seen we have seen that and the process itself, mediation has focused on conflict management, conflict resolution. and therefore from my perspective, those short term agreements and conflict management processes will not to produce effective results in the long term. and i mean, who can you weigh in on the if you say that any mediation tries to return calm to the gaza strip. but calm, according to you is an unacceptable situation. tell us why. of course, calm is a siege, restrictions, israelis shooting, killing, palestinians, arresting people at well,
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stopping the fishermen from working in the sea and women. it's a total low seed situation, which is a function of the long term relationship between israel and zionism on one hand. and the palestinian people on the other. so calm is not something that the palestinians see as a long term at watson. of course, in the short term, it is very good to stop the killing and the fighting and the shooting on both sides or whoever is in wound about this happens regularly because the underlying issues are not addressed out the egyptian government. it's fascinating that it's the security intelligence agencies in egypt that are in charge of this. so this is a security issue for egypt. fact, everything's a secure issue for each of the i like most are countries and the as they junctions are doing a good job and trying to stop the actual destruction and killing them, but not doing anything more than that in terms of a longer term,
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the horizon of some expectation that the palestinians can live a decent life and one they have the same rights to statewood and sovereignty in peace and security of the israelis. the, with the exceptions, do this because it, it makes them look good with so many audiences that are important to them. they are their own population, the american government, the fund. so the israel government that deals with them of the palestinian population. so if egypt can project itself as somebody who's trying to reduce the suffering of people and gazda, it resonates with a bunch of different audiences that are important to ford. so this is typical of the situation where our governments use the palestine issue for their own purposes . while same time, egypt of course, controls the southern gates of gas as a consistent with israel in the siege of right. and egypt, of course,
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being one of the mediators currently trying to, to, to mediate some sort of true sit down or bell to what extent you think israel is looking for a way out day 3 of the talks on god's other have been more than 500 rockets fired ad israel sirens heard and tele vive. i believe that to israel would be looking favorably at going for a truce a ceasefire. i believe that israel has achieved most of its goes in the operation and launched on friday. and i think that with israel needs now is security guarantees that none of jihad will not be. you know, once a truce is agreed, the will be violated by these on jihad and rockets would be fired again from the gaza strip into israel. i think that there is a good chance that the ceasefire is around the corner. and unfortunately this is
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something that we've been seeing year after year or year in year out. and there is no military solution to this issue. i think it's only diplomatic solution to this issue that could pay the way for a long term arrangement where, where, where there's come, there is no violence and that both sides tend to their own issues rather than focus on confronting one another. right. so then the israeli army had previously said that actually there are currently no negotiations with islamic jihad over a cease fire. i mean as bad just for the public's consumption. then i think that over the years there's never been direct negotiations between israel, hamas, and previous confrontations, or with israel and islamic jihad, it's always done through 3rd parties. and as my previous speak,
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the previous speaker noted the gyptian role. the contrary role, there are other un other actors that are stepping in and trying to broker a cease fire between is run is done and you do not believe that there is a direct contacts or talks between is run the stomach. yes, you were mentioning a moment ago that the cycle of violence will continue if, if the issues at stake are, are not really addressed. i mean, it's such a big question to you, but what needs to be done for the issues to be addressed so that the cycle of violence does not happen over and over. i don't think i was talking about the cycle of violence. so talking about issues with issues need to be addressed and it's important that there are threats. we're talking about continuing israeli occupation . we're going we're talking about god being under siege for
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a long time about the importance. remember, we're talking about the response of the elation and god that we're living on here. when we're talking about people in jerusalem being effected out of their homes being forced out of their homes, we're talking about a senior as well. and israel facing discrimination addresses. so for me, this is a question of these regular deem of our occupation that needs to be addressed in order to have just and know or to have just the and in order to have security for a whole for all people living in the region, your read us to speak, i was talking about security guarantee that is right, is looking for in terms of gather, what about security guarantees for kind of thing. and so i've been on the re occupation for more than 60 years. what about security guarantees for gather,
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for people in gather, who have been receiving their rockets and civilians who are losing their, their, their security on their lives. or that was really what about security for palestinians in the west bank of its jilson. so the respective on being at security is not recognized while their respective on these security is recognized. and therefore that speaks to an important issue, which is the power relationship between palestinians and israelis. and israel continues to be a powerful, powerful countries continues to be, continues to how far from military continue to enjoy support from the united states and, and the palestinians. i'm not talking to them. i'm not talking about them a victim. but the reality is they are living on those railey and israeli, regina apartheid occupation racism. and this needs to be addressed. and then is that ultimately about the occupations?
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yes, it is saying, and also i mean multiple human rights organizations, including a human rights watch in 2021 describing israel, systematic oppression and institutional discrimination against palestinians amnesty international as well in 2022, calling israel as apartheid against palestinians accrual system of domination, ultimately is it about the occupation the 1st of all, i'd like to say that gaza is not under israeli occupation. israel left the gaza strip in 2005 bowing not to come back. and so since 2005 to 17 years, israel is not been inside guys, a lot anti jobs are certainly controls the land sea and air doesn't not correct so. so what, what, what i'm getting at is, and as i believe that the 2 state solution is the way forward is the way to resolve is really posted in conflict. having a state of israel living side by side with
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a palestinian future palestinian state in peace. and security, and once you know that, that happens, then all these issues would be on the table including the end of occupation, including other aspects of borders, settlement security, and then it could be those issues can be address. but let's not forget that. who is the aggressor here and having the palestinian islamic jihad holding the entire population of southern israel as hostage threatening to fire rockets and occasionally doing that. and so, nor not, no normal country could allow itself to actually allow this to happen. and so it is we'll have to respond is we'll have to launch this preemptive strike or to deal with this issue. and let's talk about islamic jihad. there are no mothers, the reasons they are a terrorist organization back. but you ron, and bowing to destroy the state of israel, so israel has the right to defend itself, has the right also to worry about security. and i agree that poston security is
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important and should be addressed as well. i mean, would you like to weigh and i for you want to yeah, please go ahead to comment. i'm sort of dashboard. so it presented a very sophisticated, impressive presentation is really propaganda and speaking points which have been swallowed up line and shape or by the american government. the british government, them are those around the region. they idea that all they want is peace and no rockets out of gas or piece sounds good. but the reality is that groups like just wanted to have, like, how much like them, like they bring a fetish like the p, f o, p, d, f o, p, and previous militant left wing groups in the 60 seventy's and eighty's every one of these palestinian resistance movements in palestine are outside came about as a response to continued as rarely attacked occupations. subjugation of fort hood,
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racism, imprisonment, expulsion chilling, arrest. i mean, it's incredible that there's rarely zionism for a 100 years, have not been able to deal with the reality of palestinian nationalism and sovereign reggie post. and even though he says i'm, i'm happy to hear him say that he would like to stay solution, which is what i work for my life. i was born in 48. this is great to hear, but it is not what the really government does. it is not what the american government does, the reality of these reach one after the other, if emerging was brothers, the harass, and all these needs but cheap, emerging out of focus on in fact, many of them came out of jazz, which is fascinating. gaza was an, has been the incubator, the post, and the nationalism resistance and relevant resistance for about the last 50 or 60 years. it's always a response to what the israel is doing. so this cycle has to be seen as
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a cycle in which the israel is from zionism or doing terrible things. and the palestinians are responding and they do terrible things. sometimes when they fire mis are, they used to do a bomb, bombs and buses, and both sides have used different tactics. so we can criticize. but the main thrust of why this continues is because of the where the zionism and the really government continue to apply their policy as well camouflaging them. and this very sophisticated public relations approach that doesn't work anymore. so the whole world basically accept the american presidency. a few people in congress, people in england running for prime minister, this individual repeat these lines. israel has a right to defend itself, but the majority of public opinion around the world is saying we want equal rights, or israel is published in engine. that means reality. not frederick, and i hope we can move from rhetoric to reality. let post it in
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a put the cards on the table anytime. so for a 2 state solution, but the, the israel is on the americans and others do not respond. ok, just back to the issue of the egyptian mediation, he said, ami was mentioning this just a few moments about the role that egypt has been playing historically. but for palestinian factions, how important is egypt as a partner? obviously, it's a geographical proximity must play a part here. egypt is of importance from a point from which to political point of view. also from any point of view, you just continue to enjoy buddy strong relations with the faction continue to enjoy a strong relationship with the palestinian authority with hamas, and also with israel. indeed with united states. so if you get in the region of the player and it's a significant to play or how the gyptian mediation is important for 2 factors or
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for 2 reasons. one and it has a strong relationship with his weight and so. so egypt can communicate with israel messages and can also manage talks in terms of the thing as they can. they have a strong relationship with them up and i'm out continues to be a significant player. and yadda. and i think both understand and israeli palestinian, sorry, trust egyptian mediation and you just continue to enjoy something you enjoy relations but also continues to enjoy international support in terms of its mediation efforts. also let's not forget that egypt has, am direct borders with gather and be just continues to console. fact crossing,
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which is a major border between jobs on the outside world. and egypt also continues to support the humanitarian aid and to gather. but let me just go back to the main point that i made area which is all of the short term agreements will not be successful. as long as we do not address 1st of all, kind of conciliation, it needs to be addressed and supported. secondly, the israeli gene of our time has been occupation that the funds have been living under since 940. if this system is addressed, this aggressive system policy is not that address where are likely going to see more aggression, more violence, and also more in a stability over the coming years. right? and as long as we can continue to support it and not to support a political limit,
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we're going to see more more in its ability as well over the coming years. then you're a former diplomat and the negotiator as well from your point of view. what does this mediation actually achieve? i mean kyra has attempted several times egypt as well as others have attempted several times to to push for some sort of reconciliation process between israel and at the time it was. huh. so so i think that israel and egypt of the close coordination and secure relationship between the security establish months and so as well, trusts egypt in that regard. and also as israel has been working with the special contrary envoy to gaza of over the years. and so i believe that israel sees the gyptian options, egypt, and channel as the best way to try and resolve the the outstanding issues and to reach, assist by egypt, has proven over the last several years of
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a previous conflict. it's able to deliver when it comes to bringing the palestinian side to the table or to agree to the conditions of the truce, perhaps excessive dan, but we're talking here about sort of long term solutions. correct? so, so, you know, the issue is that none of the parties are looking long term and that's a problem. there's a problem that israel's not looking long term, egypt and the students for sure not looking for long term. and if you don't look for long term, it's, it's a problem because each every few months or every few years, you face the same problem again and again. and i think it's an issue of leadership, considers your political circumstances that that can make this happen. but these have not crystalized yet, and it will take time. and unfortunately, innocent people are hurt or losing lives and are just under under threat of
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violence. and until there is a long term approach by all parties, nothing is going to move forward. unfortunately, i'm a hoodie when you look at what's happening right now in gaza from your assess on what kind of intensity and length of conflict could we potentially be seeing? my guess is that the immediate conflict will wind down in the next few days. a mass is unlikely to join in a fight or some of the other smaller on fractions. but we'll see it depends what these relas do. these rallies go around, killing more people in destroying more infrastructure. and if they sent some of the other, whoops, than you might get an expansion of the actual fighting. but i don't expect that because that fighting has expanded many times in the last 20 years. and it just doesn't solve anything that there is no military solution to this 3rd, nor is there a solution to the israeli policies of apartheid and seizure restriction and
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dehumanization are the only solution is a negotiated one that gives both people equal rights of statehood. but the most important thing, the israelis, i think, a need to recognise which they probably know deep down better are not able or willing to to admit is that every time they have carried out their policy for what they call mowing the lawn, mowing the grass every few years, they attack gasser, they destroy some things. but every time in the wake of that kind of israeli attack, the militant forces in gaza get more public support as they're doing now. as the sunshine had, despite the criticism people north of it is the only group that is now seen to be resisting israel, even though they're not going to liberate palestine. the putting up a show of resistance generates great support for them. and the other thing that happens is they become more technologically sophisticated. if you look at him as an assignment to her than his below, and even the hoodies and,
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and yet when they get support from the iranians and the syrians and other people to help each other. and they have become increasingly more sophisticated that aren't and lebanon were, was la la, and israel have a cease fire. they're afraid to fight each other because they know that would be massive destruction. so israel has to look at the long term consequent says of what it does and then look at a piece strategy one day. all right, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. yes. at scott at army hoody and dan or bell, we thank you so much for your time. thanks for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. you can go to our facebook page dot, facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story to the conversation on twitter or handle is a j inside story for myself and the whole team here. and how, thanks for watching a bye for now. the
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ah and in the early hours of the morning, these palestinian families are being forced to leave their homes and belongings. these are the military sometimes uses this area in the north of the occupied west bank as a training ground. explosions, like these often break the piece here. i feel for the children they get scared of the bombing. i tried to call them down there, but we're scared to. these really are me, told them just either that it takes measures to protect civilians during back. the sizes, what is really, officers previously said that trainings are used to push palestinians out. 48 families once lived in this village called zeek. now,
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