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fashion trend forever tied to the 80 ah newton. john's work stretched beyond music and the silver scream. she served as goodwill ambassador for the united nations before being diagnosed with breast cancer in 1992. she turned her 30 year battle with the disease into advocacy and philanthropy founding the olivia newton john cancer and wellness center in melbourne, australia in 2020. she was recognized by the u. k. 's queen elizabeth, who appointed her a dame. and what's the one memory that stands out the most from 40 years ago? meeting olivia throughout at all, she remained close with her grease co star, john travolta from 40 years earlier. ah, yes, i think we had crushes on each other, but we both were seeing other people and. but i think that's what made the chemistry work. after her passing travolta riding on instagram, my dearest olivia,
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yours from the 1st moment i saw you and forever. your danny. you're john. ah. olivia newton john was 73. leah hardin al jazeera. ah. this is al jazeera. these are the top stories. is fury and grief across the occupied west bank. off the israeli forces killed a senior commander of al oxer martyrs brigades, a palestinian armed group, resisting israeli occupation. ah, thousands of mourners fill the streets of nobliss where he per him out. i will see was killed summit citizen occupied west bank of cold for general strike. alex, a martyrs brigades say their response will fit the crime. his mother says there will be many who will continue his mission. i want the little ha abraham. they
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the f b i has searched his florida home. is believed to be part of the investigation into whether he took classified records from the white house to his private residence. and several explosions have been heard from the direction of a military air base in russian control. crimea. local authorities say one person was killed and 5 injured in the last russian defense ministry had denied an attack to place. it says if socialists caused by the destination of a v, a sion ammunition they saw the headlines, the news continues here on 0 of the inside story. stay with us. ah. a deal aimed at ending decades of turmoil in chad. the transitional government and
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opposition have signed a peace agreement, but with one of the biggest rebel group refusing to take part, will this accord hold. and if it does, how far off is democracy in the central african nation? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammered. jim jerome chad's transitional military council has signed a piece deal with opposition parties and armed groups. the agreement is the 1st step towards democratic elections and a new constitution may faction signed the deal, but one of chance largest armed groups walked out of negotiations when its demands weren't met. now the question is whether the much anticipated national dialogue will go ahead on august, the 20th gillian wolf has our story. more than 40 opposition groups signed
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a long awaited peace deal on monday, giving them. and the transitional military council calls for hope. it was a voted, thought, and difficulty talks. but what is important is the resolved, which we got at the end of this long process. and i think that this agreement will lead us to a system trouble piece in child. the deal comes after 5 months of negotiations and could pay the way for a return to civilian rule a ceasefire. general amnesty and a national dialogue will be the 1st articles to be implemented the dialogue due to be held later this month. and the country's capital in jemina is meant to lead to the formation of a government of national unity. constitutional reforms and democratic elections. katara, which host of the talked says the agreement is just the beginning to hear how very
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helpful that it will end hostilities between the different parties. it will move the process for a minute meditative forces to a political level assistant will allow for an easy transition towards the negotiations in charge itself. a noticeable absence from the signing and doha was the main rebel group, the from for change. in concord, in chad or fact, i think at the beginning, oh, we were a little bit sure that google fucked to will not signed chad. one of the poorest countries in this a hell has been locked in internal conflict for decades. fighting among armed groups has forced hundreds of thousands of people from their homes. when mohammed debbie replaced his late father as president last year, he promised political reform mama and lost the peace talks that led to the doe her accord. over the years, dozens of peace agreements have failed. but many hearsay, that after 60 years of conflict, champions are tired of war and ready for peace. for inside story,
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gillian wolf. the. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guess from the chevy and capital in gym. in a, we have romaji. why not be a senior researcher at the institute for security studies in barcelona? is enrica pico director of the central africa project at international crisis group . and in oslo is andrew ja cheese senior researcher at the norwegian institute of international affairs, specializing in security issues and africa. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story romaji, let me start with you today. how many groups and factions ultimately signed this agreement? how many didn't sign or participate? and do you believe that this agreement can lead to a sustainable piece in chat? i think that in the all, we have 2 groups that were in the token door and they,
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we know that there was about 43 groups that find these find me then we'd that is published. and in the other side we have about 8 groups. that 9, that didn't sign this agreement, what we would say got to be the position of the different groups. there was that final was that we didn't those, that fine, we have some major audible groups like with our laid by the need. we also have the movement led by the general mama movie that we didn't the biggest group that science. but in the old site, we have still the fact that the football court that didn't sign the agreement and it's something that is, was not because we recall that the last type, things in which the president did the what the,
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what was being odd. it's very movement to the national are and now this is mean that the fact is one of the main, ah, military, no groups that are opposed to dr. rashid. so billy at we have a d. i but as flat as one of the major is not part of this bill. we don't have is kind of gyla was our piece of women that have been inspected from the big enrica, you heard romaji there. talk about the fact that not all rebel groups and factions are assigned as accord in. and one of the big worries is the fact that the front for change and concord and chad, a group that is known as fact. that's the main rebel group that they refused to sign this accord despite last minute efforts by the authors mediators and the fact that they haven't signed the fact that other groups have not signed on to this. or how worrying is that while it creates a lot of research on it,
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and how about if you turn not only offer the transitional process, but about the over all the piece in the country. we do have, we always have to remember that this piece dealer has to be framed in a much broader framework, which is that one of the transition, the gathering indoor and the agreement that was to be, was supposed to be only the 1st step to bring a rebel groups on to the national or ending could be the national dialogue that the supposed to start next week in diana. so the fact that one of the major group has not find these, but i mean are agreements and will be not part. that would be not included. the international dialogue in the country is really a, creates the data condition for both of negotiation on one side. that might also, we can the agreement that has been already signed or put
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a return today to the rebellion and photos that are fancy or a fax in the national data that is going to start next week. andrew, i saw you nodding along through some of what in rico was saying, so i'm going to let you jump in, but i also want to ask you from your perspective, if, if a lasting piece is not achieved with this acord, how is that going to impact other countries in the region other countries in central africa? well, i think for me, the key challenge here is that even if you did have an agreement that was mentioned, it was signed, you would still need to be able to implement that agreement in practice. and that tends to be a challenge with my kids, but it's not region me. the chairman chair that i received a could continue to split over into other countries where from groups have taken, you know, stuff for a while and other places where a crate sort of a hospice for these groups to the hide, but also to play political monday in between different states so,
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so on the largest one it could do is click this continue to be you know, instability. but also i'm thinking why the picture here is really about the child's contribution to africans. it can be seen a rise of child of the last decade, particularly in larger african missions. i'm thinking, you know, the monte national joint possible and then touch base in the g 5 and how even the un mission. and so you may, if you have the security at home, eventually at some point these shoots could be sent back to do of the insecurity amongst the groups that haven't find. and so why the challenge concerns me for the if this is so if there isn't a meaningful process that it's been in place to try and bring some of these groups that i said, 9 courses that at, you know, we don't, we departed agreement. then what happens if they are not done? and so that is the space that we need to be looking at as well a long time. yeah. and andrew's, you know, since you brought this up, i mean,
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when it comes to efforts in combating armed groups fighting in the region, how significant a role does, does chad play in those efforts? well i think less so we've on great, so most of it with terrorists and those on the talk to this matter, but to particular test scripts for koran as of late basin and member groups who cross tribal, the areas or the regional areas. that is a challenge, but also the child has been, i would say, the full fund of trying to deal with, with that challenge, particularly because of space among the space of that region. a we've been having to was being as fluff calling, but also been encrypt. and rapidly being able to deal with that child. and so to me, i think that is a concern. if long term forces are been brought back home to be challenged, then what happens to discuss, we're already seeing this is the difference of how, where for example, money money is put out from there. there's a gap that needs to be filled again, child has been on the previous leadership,
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has been on the full front of dealing with this. but this again, if you have the security in internally, which has always been that to say that. but if it continues, it couldn't be that true. so the price, i'm wondering what you know about to deal with that and that long term isn't good for the region. enrica you mentioned a moment ago that disagreement is supposed to pave the way for a national dialogue, which is supposed to begin and enjoy a minute later this month. do you believe that that timeline will actually be met, that this broader national reconciliation dialogue can actually start as it is scheduled to start this month? well, it's likely to be delayed. again, i think because even though the community to dialogue out work on the preparation since the beginning of the day, isn't that?
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well, actually, sir, because it was originally scheduled for january that delayed till may and then rescheduled on the 24th with the even though like the preparation has been already long. the difference the contents of the notes have all been in the country. so at some point, some of but most of the see the society organization and the political position where willing to participate in line to the data to get. but then after the events in may. yeah, the rest of the leader of them are one of the main positions coalition in the country. and also the discussion that around after about the quarter of the, the participation of the different political actors in the national data. the busy stuff making the context and the situation more pounds and i'm agreement. the going been founder yet to the political position estimate the suicide,
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estimated that the out of the 1400 seats in the national delegate, 1200 will be approved by people cross to the government. so i question about that ending because the beginning of the dialogue on the table since a few weeks. and this is not the only about the space of them, a group for the discussion in the indoor is something much more entrenched to the inclusive in the country. and this is based on that. so this is something that should be thought out before the beginning. i mean, so luckily that would be done not in only one week. romaji the front for change in concord in chad, that's the main rebel group. they said in a statement that their rejection of the agreement followed the failure to take our demands into consideration. what kind of demands are they? are they talking about? was this simply about prisoners that they were demanding to be released? or was there more play here? oh, boy,
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i actually state the faith of the 5 of the demons. they ha, but they were also having demons regarding this chart to mean the way, how are you you bought the most of the by the bought the to the present is something i've been talking about. there was also identity for the people that actually living proposition not to be candidate the coming election. also that they are. they also requested a kind of party, jerome's participants in that title. meaning, there shouldn't be more people that across all from, from a leading party or from the transition not allow me to publish no council, but there should be a lot of updates. so people come back on. so people from the should parties from stephen society and also from other than the last thing that they have also been
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witnessing. and that is something that we think the best actually is there is set them on the well one for me in charge of organizing the data. if we consider that a data that meaning the 20 for august, not weeks actually i. so we'd up how the government comes feeling already said to so i think these are the main demand. and this is why also i didn't find is i won't be of the rest of the posts. andrew, i'm one of the messages coming out of the the conclusion of these talks are in door . how was that? even for those groups who did not participate this time out? there, there is a hope or at least an offer being extended by those who did participate in that they would like to see these armed groups. are these rebel groups, these opposition figures participate at some point going forward. perhaps when this
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national reconciliation dialogue finally kicks off. do you think that, you know, is likely to happen? will more groups enter into this dialogue at some point? i believe my hope that that could happen. i think it's crucial that, that i offer be extended and contain be extended wide because if not as levels, as mentioned, you don't have a non inclusive approach, which means that you have the trouble. he continued to sit on the sidelines and man isn't good. so that sort of been long term stability of child and also other parts of the regions i've mentioned before. so for me, i think that that room and gay, which should continue to be a mess broken. it shouldn't lead to her to, to be dialogic can be used, talk on that gateway, but also where there's also crucial in that those who are leading the. ready mission efforts need to make sure that those who have signed the agreements are to
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date, meets the stipulations and the protocols of in that agreement. because it's not what you don't have a situation where these groups are who have signed up rebellion and then joining the groups who haven't signed. and then you have this service fragmentation of the agreement itself. and that long term, as i was spoken about in other cases, like in cigar and in south on, isn't good because then you can consider that the gains and the piece that you want to as all enrica, the transitional military council. i had said that it would oversee an 18 month transition to democratic rule and that elections would eventually be held. have there been signs indicating that they are actually going about trying to organize elections? i will say that there is already a general consensus, a more or less explicit about the fact that the transition will be extended to the end of the 18 months will be end of september beginning of october. and it's impossible that by that data, the national dialogue,
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both the national data and election, would be organized and to organize that credible le, fat and credible election. not that is on entitle machines to be put in place, starting from the sounds to then the electra commissioner, etc. that has not been approached yet the all to be cool is one of the object people, the national data, again, is to revise the transitional constitution. this sunday shot charter and to set the upcoming election or cheaply a vote effect the if the member of the transition on the military counselor can run for in their upcoming lecture on and off. so they're very busy. can also the games that are not in place over the game as not in place yet. and the preparation are the docket and they, they are charging governmental is still looking for a founding for was to bring the national founding to support his election. but we have fox from that romaji from your perspective,
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what do you think is the earliest we could possibly see elections happening? said actually the to live up in cit. normally the election to clean sea month. but actually we got dies just popping low. we have got it, and so we did 2022 and the earliest stuff that actually organized in this country, it might be around 20 to treat again. let us because the fact that evan, for the discussions and why do i have been left people 5 months, just meaning that, that no wait, some can predict exactly what can happen until you have the direction. so meaning that the vision will be said to be expanded, but then we don't have any except to about putting in place all the mission are
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going to alex and explain. but angelica so i think that's made by me to treat the more mystic i did a i concert or decide connection and romaji. if i could also just ask you, i want to take a step back for a 2nd. is there hope in chad right now, among ordinary citizens, that this accord could either stop or at least significantly reduce any of the fighting? i think that the world published process will become but there are so i think about the fact that the people in this country with missing a lot of these one a lot of between the groups that at the end of the day to come. so i think that we'd be able to show that we are actually in chad. i hope that i've been broke about by palsy is kind of fading away because
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we have, we don't bad the most important groups. i sit for a lot. i think that actually the feeling today, but it shows up all i was told back is not an organ enrica. a moment ago. you mentioned how one of the steps that is believe that will be taken soon, or at least the plan is for it to be taken soon as that a new constitution should be drafted. how difficult will that be to accomplish? well, it would be quite difficult that to on to achieve a 1st because the 1st of all because they're not all the fact is as we just mentioned, i will be present the national data. so some of the key neither party carla, actor will not be part of the dialogue, at least these dialogue even the we'll get there might be like a negotiation. but also because there is no agreement on which kind of situation
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a child you know, $12112.00 booting day, pretty mean of the consultation outside of the capital domina among the, the port out in the neighbor. countries that have been done in the field, november last year, there were very discussion about the shape of the data, the duration that you need to state. so all these issues will be on the table for the 1st time, i turn in the recency story of the concrete and there will be a part of the debate beside the old, a show that we already mentioned about the a d, g, b of the member of the audition, government, etc. so if the properly donna is really into the, represent the national data we, we can work hard to frame the constitution in a way that is accepted by the fact is that the represented and enrica,
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we only have a couple of minutes left. but how involved has the international community been in reaching this new, a court and, and how different is that from other records in the past? while linda and i have community has been facilitating their negotiation. and in the i, along with the government, there's been a mediator from, from, from, from the us, from the african union, the indoor supporting the negotiation. but there is also been pressure from the international community to work with a member of the transitional government. i think mainly to the declination of discharge chartered effect of the united states in july you called the government to change the charter and and do not press 4 for election after the end of the of the data. so they've been pressured in many different ways and the government, i would say that these now in now us to find
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a kind of bond in between the pressure to and the dish or not. but also the fact that that is this, you know, will not be perceived as unilateral, because these is one of the, one of the concern there. one of the make one of the, there seem bogged that to the government now imposing our decisions. so we have a compact to format agreements and perform a dialogue. we have an opportunity to, to move towards something that is much more inclusive, our energy to make that the feel we've seen the coming weeks or months. if there is a real willing to do so, all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave our conversation there today. thanks so much. all of our guests ramadi, romaji, we nazi and rica, pico and andrew yochi. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website or dot com. and for further discussion,
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