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who did the able to get her boarding to aid workers twice as many girls are likely to go hungry as boys and girls are also bearing the brunt of the psychological and societal pressures as well. since last year, when the taliban took over. according to edward, as we've been speaking to in, in the united nations, the agencies as well who tell us that the number of children facing severe acute malnutrition has almost doubled since last year. they do not attribute all of it to the change of government, but see that there is a perfect crisis that has gripped this country. it faces it's worse drought in 3 decades. after the pandemic, the taliban took over and billions of dollars worth of weight which used to be poured into this country has dried up the banking sector face as crippling sanctions and the economy his tank. so understand was already poor and was facing a number of humanitarian issues since last year. those have compounded and it workers have been telling us that unless urgent and important steps are taken to
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ensure that the children in this country are taken care of, they are looking at a much bigger and prolong prices that this country or the region has ever faced ah, this is al jazeera and these are the top stories. g 7 foreign ministers have demanded russia. handbag does upper reason. nuclear power plants, ukraine, to insurance safety. moscow and key of have accused each other of shelling, the site and southern ukraine. john, hindrance has more from keith. the g 7 says it is rushers presence occupying that plant that is causing the danger. there's you mentioned it's been hit a couple of times and they say they condemn what they call the ongoing unprovoked and unjustifiable war of aggression of the russian federation against ukraine. they've asked for russia to immediately withdraw from that facility and return it
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a deal aimed at ending decades of turmoil in chad. the transitional government and opposition have signed a peace agreement. but with one of the biggest rebel group refusing to take part, will this acord hold? and if it does, how far off is democracy in the central african nation? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm homage m jerome chad transitional military council has signed a piece deal with opposition parties and armed groups. the agreement is the 1st step towards democratic elections and a new constitution. many factions signed the deal, but one of chance largest armed groups walked out of negotiations when its demands weren't met. now the question is whether the much anticipated national dialogue
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will go ahead on august the 20th gillian wolf has our story. more than 40 opposition groups signed a long awaited peace deal on monday, giving them and the transitional military council calls for hope. it was a voted tao and difficult talks. but what is important is the resolved which we got at the end of this long process. and i think that this agreement will lead us to a system trouble piece in job. the deal comes after 5 months of negotiations and paid the way for a return to civilian rule a ceasefire. general amnesty and a national dialogue will be the 1st articles to be implemented the dialogue due to be held later this month. and the country's capital in jemina is meant to lead to the formation of a government of national unity, constitutional reforms and democratic election. katara which hosted the talks,
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says the agreement is just the beginning to we are beg, a helpful that it will and hostilities between that different bodies. it will move the process for a minute and meditate forces to a political level assistant will allow for an easy transition towards the negotiations in china itself. a noticeable absence from the signing and doha, was the main rebel group, the from for change and concord in chad. or fact, i think at the beginning, oh, we were a little bit sure that google fucked to will not sign chad. one of the poorest countries in this a hell has been locked in internal conflict for decades. fighting among armed groups has forced hundreds of thousands of people from their homes. shock when mohammed debbie replaced his late father as president last year he promised political reform mama and lost the peace talks that led to the doha accord. over the years, dozens of peace agreements have failed. but many hearsay,
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that after 60 years of conflict, champions are tired of war and ready for peace for inside story, gillian wolf. the. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guess from the chatty and capital in gym in a. we have romaji. why not be a senior researcher at the institute for security studies in barcelona? is enrica pico director of the central africa project at international crisis group . and in oslo is andrew. yeah, she senior researcher at the norwegian institute of international affairs, specializing in security issues in africa. a warm welcome to you all and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story romaji, let me start with you today. how many groups and factions ultimately signed this agreement? how many didn't sign or participate? and do you believe that this agreement can lead to a sustainable piece in chat? i think that you know, all we,
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he's the groups that were in the door and they, we know that there was about 43 groups that find that is fine. and we that is published. and in the other side we have about 8 group that 9 that didn't sign. 7 disagreement, what we would say got to being the composition of the different groups. there was that final thought was that we didn't those, that fine, we have some major audible groups like with our laid by the need. we also have the movement led by the general amount that we didn't the biggest group that science. but in the old site, we have the fact that the court didn't sign the agreement and it is something that is, was not because we recall that the last 5 things in
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which the president, debbie, what killed the, what was going on. it's very movement who the national are and that is mean that the fact is one of the main, ah, military, no groups that are opposed to dr. rashid. so billy at we have a d. i. but as low as one of the major is not part of this bill, we don't have these kind of gyla was our piece. we went to be nice that it's from the big enrica, you heard romaji there a talk about the fact that not all rebel groups and factions are assigned as accord in. and one of the big worries is the fact that the front for change and concord in chad, a group that is known as fact, that's the main rebel group that they refused to sign this accord despite last minute efforts by others mediators. and the fact that they haven't signed the fact that other groups have not signed on to this,
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or how worrying is that. while it creates a lot of content, kennedy, how about if you turn not only offer the transitional process done, but about the over all the piece in the country? we do have, we always have to remember that this piece dealer has to be framed in a much broader framework, which is that one of the transition, the gathering indoor and the agreement that was to be, was supposed to be only the 1st step to bring a rebel groups on to the national or ending with the national dialogue that the supposed to start next week in diana. so the fact that one of the major group as not find these believe in our agreements and will be not part, we'd be not included. the international dialogue in the country is really a create the data condition for both of negotiation on one side. that might
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also, we can not the agreement that has been already signed or put a return today to the rebellion and photos that are fancy or a fax in the foster only last year. so it's still too early to say, what are the next steps, but it's sure that something is already nissan, international data, that is going to start next week. andrew, i saw you nodding along to some of what in rico was saying. so i'm going to let you jump in, but i also want to ask you from your perspective, if, if a lasting piece is not achieved with this acord, how is that going to impact other countries in the region other countries in central africa? well, i think for me, the key challenge here is that even if you did have an agreement that was mentioned that was signed, you would still need to be able to implement that agreement process. and that tends to be a challenge with my kids, but it's not region me. the chairman chair that i received, it could continue to split over into other countries where from groups have taken
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care of stuff for a while and other places where a crate sort of a hospice for these groups to the hide. but also to play political monday between different states and so. so on the largest scale, what it could do is click this continue to be, you know, instability. but also i'm thinking why the picture is really about child contribution to africans. it can be seen a rise of tried, of the last decade, particularly in larger african missions. i'm thinking of the monte national joint task force and touch base in the g 5 and how even the un mission. and so you may, if you have the security at home, eventually at some point these shoots could be sent back to do of the insecurity amongst the groups that haven't find. and so why the challenge concerns me for the if this is so if there isn't a meaningful process that it's been in place to try and bring some of these groups
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that i said, 9 courses that, you know, we don't need a part of the agreement. then what happens if they are not done and, and so that is the space that we need to be looking at as well a long time. yeah. and andrew's, you know, since you brought this up, i mean, when it comes to efforts in combating armed groups fighting in the region, how significant a role does, does chad play in those efforts? well i think less so we've on great, so most of it with paris and those on the have to talk to this matter, but to particular terry scripts for koran as of late basin and member groups who cross tribal to areas or the regional areas that is a challenge, but also child has been, i would say, by the forefront of trying to deal with, with that challenge, particularly because of space among the space of that region. a we've been having to was being as fluff calling, but also been encrypt and rapidly being able to deal with that child. and so to me,
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i think that is a concern. if the long term forces are been brought back home to be challenged, then what happens to discuss, we're already seeing this is d 1st. how, where for example, money money is put out from there. there's a gap that needs to be filled again, child has been on the previous leadership has been on the full front of dealing with this. but this again, if you have the committee in internally, which has always been there to say that. but if it continues, it couldn't be that true. so the price, i'm wondering what you know about to deal with that and that long term isn't good for the region. enrica. you mentioned a moment ago that disagreement is supposed to pave the way for a national dialogue. which is supposed to begin and enjoy a minute later this month. do you believe that that timeline will actually be met, that this broader national reconciliation dialogue can actually start as it is scheduled to start this month?
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well, it's likely to be delayed. again, i think because even though the community to dialogue out work on the preparation since the beginning of the day isn't that well actually, and the theater because it was originally scheduled for january that delayed till may and then rescheduled on the 24th with the even though, like the preparation has been already long different, the contents of the notes have all been in the country. so it's up and boring to some of but most of the see the society organization and the political position where a willing to participate in line to get. but then after the events in may. yeah, the rest of the leader of them are one of the main positions coalition in the country. and also the discussion that around after about
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the quarter of the, the participation of the different political actors in the national data. the busy stuff making the context and the situation more pounds and i'm agreement. the other been founder, yet the political position estimate, the suicide, estimated that the out of the 1400 seats in the national delegate, 1200 will be approved by people cross to the government. so i question about the ending because the beginning of the dialogue on the table since a few weeks, and this is not the only about the space of them, a group or the discussion in the indoor is something much more entrenched to the inclusive in the country. and this is based on that. so this is something that should be thought out before the beginning. i mean, so luckily that would be done not in only one week. romaji the front for change in concord in chad, that's the main rebel group. they said in
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a statement that their rejection of the agreement followed the failure to take our demands into consideration. what kind of demand are they? are they talking about? was this simply about prisoners that they were demanding to be released? or was there more play here? oh, boy, i actually state the faith of the business of the humans, they ha, but they were also having demands regarding this chart to mean the way, how are you you bought the most of the by the bought the to the present is something i've been talking about there was also the necessity for the people that actually leading proposition not to be candidate the coming election also that they are in bed. they also requested a kind of party, jerome's participants in that title. meaning, there shouldn't be more people that across all from, from a leading party or from the competition not allow me to publish no council,
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but there should be a lot of updates. so people come back on. so people from the should parties, society and also from other than the last thing that they have also been witnessing . and that is something that we tend to be better actually is there is set them on the well one for me in charge of organizing the data. if we consider that a data that meaning the 20 for august, not weeks actually i. so we'd up how the government comes feeling already said to so i think these are the main demand. and this is why also i didn't find is i won't be of the rest of the posts. andrew, i'm one of the messages coming out of the the conclusion of these talks are in door . how was that? even for those groups who did not participate this time out?
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there, there is a hope or at least an offer being extended by those who did participate in that they would like to see these armed groups. are these rebel groups, these opposition figures participate at some point going forward. perhaps when this national reconciliation dialogue finally kicks off. do you think that, you know, is likely to happen? will more groups enter into this dialogue at some point? i believe my hope that that could happen. i think it's crucial that, that i offer be extended and contain be extended wide because if not as levels, as mentioned, you don't have a non inclusive approach, which means that you have the trouble. he continued to sit on the sidelines and man isn't good. so that sort of been long term stability of child and also other parts of the regions i've mentioned before. so for me, i think that that room and k was, should continue to be a mess broken. it shouldn't lead to her to,
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to be dialogic can be used, talk on that gateway. but also what is also crucial is that those who are leading the. ready mission efforts need to make sure that those who have signed the agreements are to date, meets the stipulations and the protocols in my agreement. because it's not what you don't have a situation where these groups are who have signed up rebellion and then joining the groups who haven't signed. and then you have this service fragmentation of the agreement itself. and that long term, as i was spoken about in other cases, like in cigar and, and are in south on, isn't good because then you can consider that the gains and the piece that you want to, as all enrica, the transitional military council. i had said that it would oversee an 18 month transition to democratic rule and that elections would eventually be held. have there been signs indicating that they are actually going about trying to organize elections?
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i will say that there is already a general consensus more or less explicit about the fact that the transition will be extended to the end of the 18 months will be end of september beginning of october. and it's impossible that by that data, the national dialogue, both the national data and election, would be organized and to organize that credible le, fat and credible election. not that is on entitle machines to be put in place, starting from the sounds to then the electra commissioner, etc. that has not been approached yet the all to be cool is one of the object people, the national data, again, is to revise the transitional constitution. this sunday shot charter and to set the upcoming election or cheaply a vote effect the if the member of the transition on the military counselor can run for in their upcoming lecture on and off. they're very busy can also the games that are not in place over the game as not in place yet,
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and the preparation of the docket. and they, they are charging government is still looking for a founding for was to bring the national founding to support his election. but we have fox from that romaji. from your perspective, what do you think is the earliest we could possibly see elections happening? said actually the to live up in sit with this normally the election to clean sea month. but actually we've got dies just popping low. we have got action. so we do 2022 and the earliest stuff that you are guys in this country. it might be around 20 to treat again, let us because the fact that evan, for the discussions and why do i have been left people 5 months is meaning that, that there is no way some can predict exactly what can happen until you have the
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direction. so it means that the vision will be set to be expanded, but then we don't have any except to about putting in place all the mission are going to alex and explain. but angelica so i think that's made to me to treat that more mystic. i did a i concert or decide connection and romaji. if i could also just ask you, i want to take a step back for a 2nd. is there hope in chad right now, among ordinary citizens, that this accord could either stop or at least significantly reduce any of the fighting? i think that the world published process becomes but there's also, i think about the fact that the people in this country with missing a lot of these a lot of these,
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between the groups that at the end of the day to become so i think that we should we are serving actually in chat about by palsy is kind of fading away because we have, we don't bad the most important that i rebel groups. i sit for a lot. i think that actually i just finished a chat, but it shows up all i was told about not organ enrica a moment ago. you mentioned how one of the steps that, that is believe that will be taken soon. or at least the plan is for it to be taken soon as that a new constitution should be drafted. how difficult will that be to accomplish? well, it would be quite difficult that to on to achieve 1st because the 1st of all because they're not all the fact is we just mention i will be present the national
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data. so some much needed that are pretty carla. actor will not be part of the dialogue, at least these dialogue even the we'll get there might be like a negotiation. but also because there is no agreement on which kind of situation, not a child, no one tool, $112.00 booting day, pretty mean of the consultation outside of the capitol, domina among the the port out in the neighbor. countries that have been done in the field there november last year. there were very discussion about the shape of the data, the duration that you need to state. so all these issues will be on the table for the 1st time, i turn in the recency story of the concrete and there will be part of the debate beside the all the show that we already mentioned about the g, b of the member of the government etc, so if the properly donna is really into the,
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represent the national data we, we can work hard to frame the constitution in a way that is accepted by the fact is that the represented and enrica, we only have a couple of minutes left. but how involved has the international community been in reaching this new, a court and, and how different is that from other records in the past? while linda and i have community has been facilitating their negotiation. and in the i, along with the governments, they've been a mediator from, from, from, from the us, from the african union, the indoor supporting the negotiation. but there are, those have been pressure from the international community to work with a member of the transitional government. so i think mainly to the declination of discharge chartered effect of the united states in july you called the police and i
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got the mentor to change the charter and and do not prime for for election after the, the end of the, of the that okay. so they've been pressured in many different ways and the government, i would say that these now in now us to find a kind of bond in between the pressure to amazon dish or not. but also the fact that that is this, you know, will not be perceived as unilateral, because these is one of the, one of the concern of the, one of the make one of the there seem bogged that to the government now imposing decision. so we have a compact to format agreements and perform a dialogue. we have an opportunity to, to move towards something that is much more inclusive, our energy to make that to feel. we've seen the coming weeks or months if there is a real willing to do so. all right, well we have run out of time,
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so we're going to have to leave our conversation there today. thanks so much. all of our guests ramadi, romaji, we nazi and rica pico and andrew yochi. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website or dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ag inside story. you can also do the conversation on twitter. our handle is at a inside story for him having german, the whole team here, bye for now. the ah.
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