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centered and so theater is going to become irrelevant to those audiences that come from those communities. the survival of the edinburgh festival, and the fringe in particular, after a near death experience of the last couple of years demonstrates the come rain or shine, or pandemic. the show must go on the wider cost of living crisis is feeding into a cost of performing crisis with the scene at risk of being diminished forever. the life of a fringe known can be in the mouth experience. audiences are increasingly drawn to big name productions, while the vital voices of diversity are drowned out. the fringe as he was some say, he's no longer about money. looks at the hopelessness of young lives. earning poverty wages. i think we find out which may not seem like much, but not all i want to show was his other turns as it is mostly
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about the money. joe al jazeera edinburgh. ah, hello again. the headlines on al jazeera, the u. k. government has declared a drought and parts of england. it seemed the dry as july since 1935, some regions veridian ounce water restrictions banding. people from watering, lawns or washing cars. or we challenges more from london. he's got heat warnings around the country is not quite as hot as it was last month, but still around 35 degrees. so that's an amber warding for much of the country. and with the dryness comes the warding of fires that have been several wildfires around the country in recent weeks and the met officer saying that there is an exceptional risk of more to come fires in france. spain and portugal have already
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made 2020 to a record year for wildfires in south west europe. the use satellite monitoring service as fires in france sent carbon pollution there to with the highest level since records began. an extreme rainy season is taking its toll into don, with tens of thousands of people affected. at least 25 people have now died in flash floods and more heavy rain is forecast. former us president donald trump says he would welcome the release of the f. b, i warrant, used to search his florida home. the attorney general has asked a federal court to unseal the document, saying it's in the public interest. so porters of influential, shy leader amongst the southern have observed mass prayers in iraq capital. it's the 2nd week they were held near parliament and baghdad fortified green zone. opponents often southern are holding a counter protest for right now, just outside the green zone in the iraqi capital. com has returned to sierra leone
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after days of nationwide anti government demonstrations. there has been anger about the rising cost of living. the protesters demanded president, julius mazda bio stepped down. at least 27 people have been killed, including security personnel. those are the headlights on how to 0. the stream is up next by, by left, get to the bottom line. what does the new forever proxy war mean for america and nato? it's very hard to say we're, the escalations stopped. is it a mistake to open up? is that a pandora's box? you want to be ready for the next pandemic. you figure out this one, the bottom line, you'll weakly take on us politics in society. hi, anthony ok. when a nigerian st vendor can be beaten to death in bo daylight while people watch? what does that tell us about italian society?
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america august you quote, was mounted on july 29th. the man accused of killing him. filippo claudio giuseppe philosophy has been arrested and charged with murder and theft. his lawyer and the police investigators say the case has nothing to do with the racism about a lot of money. my just thought i did talk to her, she spoke to the magistrates, gave his version of the facts and said he was sorry. he apologized to the family, apologized for what happened, made it clear that there was absolutely no racial element. unfortunately, the terrible act would have been committed anyway, regardless of publishing the record in dumb way. when we she, yo, it is a murder determined by futile motives. what emerges from the investigation is that the victim was particularly persistent in bagging money from the attacker and his partner was, you know, he is protested happen rallying calling for justice for leica and for italy to confront it's his history of racism and xena phobia. today we spoke to the lawyer
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representing a leak, his family, the family, then a juliet community and the law kelly gun reacted with b and the way and been wanting to condemn the violence will meet again. they blame the family, wants justice, and does not want to revenge, as well as all those people i read through the streets all contribute on all the market. the last the sounds good to condemn their mother is is the killing of a leak or i'll go to quote italy's george floyd moment. what will it take to come front racism in italy? you can do and i conversation right now on youtube. ah. having this tough conversation with us on the stream, angelica kwanza angela. welcome to the stream. good to have. we'll see if you hear
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angelica, please introduce yourself to international audience. sure, good evening. i'm angelica isadine, and i'm an assistant professor at the university of toronto. i work on issues of race, gender identity, colonial and post colonial. a tele, thanks for joining us. hello cleanser, welcome to the steam. please say hello to have you around the well, tell them who you well, what you do. a good day, everyone. my name is quinn's i'm, we'll see the sam goes i from wrong. i worry because every city management expert and i'm also member of the national anti racist. that's where we can get to have you and angela. welcome. please introduce yourself to audience. good evening. you know, my name is angela book out to our finance germany, maybe london. and i write about issues concerning race, diversity, and politics. zehnder social issues. and it's been some days now. it's almost 2
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weeks now since alika was murdered. is this story for italian, still resonating our tie and still speaking about it, because that means that something different may well be happening here. i have a feeling that people are legally my still be speaking about this, but i'm not entirely sure how the conversation is on the right direction we've seen before. what you've heard that many are seeing be says related disputes are mothers, something that is not is not connected to racism is not racially motivated. and also i think that part of the issue might be that people might think that might start thinking about this because up and so close to the election while the story of the mothers of that man into these long i'm just looking at you, she right now kwanza liam is, is watching, and he said,
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asking for money on the street is not justification for violence and murder, italian state and police must recognize the matter as racist, and symptomatic or structural violence. but so far they haven't, they were very quick to say this is not racism, cancer. you start and then a jello. could you pick up? yeah, i mean it's a really good lactic, that the police 1st thing 1st excluded for the motive of racism even before looking at all the evidences and stuff and actually to prepare the trial. so this is already eloquent to say that there is definitely a racist phobia. we can say absolutely no racial element. kwanza is what the lawyer to the exactly as you say, they say yeah, yeah, no, no, that no racial on that we can. yes. so from then weekend already said that there is
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definitely a phobia in admitting the problem of racism here. yeah. until like have you seen that idea that it's not racism? it's individual crimes. absolutely. i think, you know, it is one of the watching the police are talking, the police conduct an investigation, talking about it. i was shocked to see a to see them say we can categorically exclude racism. because this could have happened to anyone. and this will reflect the approach we had in italy, bye in europe about race. first of all, we can not say the word race. people are always horrified because they think about the biological part to why we talk about the socio cultural and parts of race. but also the fact that is always a one off people in italy are not racist. they may be ignorant. racism doesn't exist, is in the u. k. in the u. s. that is the denial structural racism as
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a systemic factors that define our society. and this is one of the main obstacle we have as color says, academics as rocky to these people don't want to face it. and so how can we be auntie races if we dont dallas is a huge resident that looks like it likely to be an to races and, and what it is that that no, i was thinking no i was thinking i was following up on this like literally but he does b r war in italy, the racism can be mention, racism doesn't exist also in the media because we have a responsibility on mainstream media for the fact that in after the mother of the whole show, many media gave a lot of reference to what the mother in question said the fact that he said that it was bothering a partner, but he said it was asking for money and he was given so much space to be mother out
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to a version of a mother and not enough space to the family. a family of a leak, i think the style so much dignity for people of color is not it's not something that's really it, but that's where the focus was a focus on in italy at all. and best of those, everything speaks volumes because from that we can see how this all narrative is shaped before, during and after the elections. and i am so sorry, yeah, i've been there to the, to the 3 and it's literally broadway light times square. so it's really something happening in a big street. it's the main shot of the city. and people were just staring at it, or even just passing by a so again, racism is not about the individual that went there and say, you know, and word,
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whatever. it's about the whole system that contributed to the death of men and is this was shocking. less talking about the media. i think what angela was saying, you know, if it's important the media, the language, he, we didn't have a name, he was defined as nigerian, the st. bender, the migrant. so every time people are denied their humanity and individuality in favor of their city or what they do. so just because it may be a different name and name, difficult to pronounce. well, we don't even give the dig in. it's in the respect to name improperly. so i was founding the media language also very violent and not only the narrative the were portraying, but also these lack of humanity towards this person who hasn't been killed in broad daylight is kwansa was saying, and nobody intervened and still is then i g. ryan,
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let me add another voice i conversation. this is a clue about dully. this is what she taught us a little bit earlier to help us understand racism in italy. i like most of what he callian population express, so root and blame for the mother of alika, which these feelings are very common among sitting sense stress and even among those politicians respectfully, tundras is to pin consensus. i believe that as long as this mother is cru, see the red, i mean to be dual enact sectional act of races and not as the sign of assist them. miss t been screaming nation because their new election will not change. and somehow we will be complete i think it's really important to say
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that i cause death. a murder was not an individual instance. there. were they many instances of people of color being killed, harassed, assaulted in italy, those on and on and on and on. so let's take a broader look. i want to go back to something that really stopped me in my tracks when i saw it, which was 2020 in rome, which is a black lives matter rally. have a look at this extraordinary. it's also a moment of silence. you're not going to hear much, but you at the in to see i don't really need to show it to you guess. but for our audience, just to remember that there was a moment where italy and some people in italy realized that they had their own issues with racism. when you look at that, i'm delicate again. these images. what does it tell you about italy? growth, the ability to bounty, discuss, and talk about racism openly. well, you know, families interesting because i was there, it was
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a milan or during these demos and what i, i have very mixed feelings because on the one hand people, people of color, black people have been doing active fights against racism for decades. so was not the death of george floyd that told us that was received them back for white italian. those who were trigon said, as anti racist. well, it was frustrating to see what they call this performative anti racism source. so many people went in the streets. we just finished a lockdown. we were in the middle of a pandemic all vitale. it was in the streets, protesting for the death of george floyd. but we as you mention, got so many black men and women killed by re season. look, now, alaska, how many people did go in the streets and protest besides us. there were many people who went there once i was among them and the court in i'm into an accident. it actually sta, but where the artist and so this is frustrating,
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i think you need to lead until the white on to race is movement. is problematic because these on trickle nice white privilege for example, when you mentioned this words, they say this doesn't apply to us because this is in the us. we cannot talk about trees. we don't, we don't talk about privilege. how are we privileged as italian? so i've been struggling for centuries. we were immigrants too. and you see this is the difficulty in let people understand that whiteness has been historically protected and maintain, even if you're poor, even if you're discriminated for other reasons. alika was not just a black man. he was also a poor man, so the class component here is essential and is something people to one face the police, you were saying they were saying it could have happened to anyone, but how many white italians are in the streets asking for a coin. i don't see many, so being italian beans being a white one. so would you say is, is that the issue that you will not viewed as being of helen if you're not white?
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absolutely. we see that how white italians confuse class with race. and so one and jessica was saying is perfectly right. there is a lot of white italians in the anti races, historical anti racist organizations that say no, i'm not. i'm not privilege because i'm why, because i grew up in the projects. but that, that is something that appeals to class in general. so they substitute class with race very often and they don't understand that that race and class are 2 different elements that can co exist. course can be intertwined but, but they can also act separately. and so it's very difficult for italian and them and we've seen that also with by the tele, for example, that when he was calling he was praised as you know. busy callian back soccer
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player. and then when he couldn't, or when he was behaving, you know, like her normal youngster that goes to the club and some noise, no longer italian. he was just a black man or even the n word was used to him saying, there is no such a thing as black italian. you cannot be turning into black. but we still have this problem, the even more emphasized by the italian citizenship law, that is the goal strictly by blood. and therefore by race, of course, it doesn't say black cannot be, but he said that to be italian, you have to prove to have the power in blood. and so of course, it's more difficult for a black person to have the power in blood rather than a white person. there may be a mixed race, like myself, with things like that. so the line is very saying, i have,
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i have exactly what you're saying. let me just been going to do voice into our conversation. this is marco, i tarnish who, spite trust a few hours ago. and you haven't listened to marco, and then i love your reaction to what he tells us. italy has a problem with race. i think the attorneys never used in the public discourse, mainly because he was misused. he was used excessively during fascism. the 8th grade does not exist in the bible language, then also, racism does not exist. so here lies the problem, i think in the fact that in italy there has never been an open public conversation about the role of race in the formation of the entire nation. so what to do, i think changing this case is a 2 away process. on the one hand, i think it should be a movement of protest by ordinary citizen, demanding justice and public equal rights for black people, a migrant more broadly. and on the other hand, as a political reform which can deliver on these demands, but frankly, in the present political contest,
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i don't see neither of them happening. why melissa? from, from, from very bullet points. to be honest, to think like a conversation about some of this is about race and racism. i'm not, i'm not present at all. i think the so, so as to the 5 of us, no, not enough. voices of carlo. black lloyd says in the, i mean there are, of course, i mean, we can see, but the love, the voices will be invited and wouldn't be in, on the television, a partner with a p. if people like me, angelica was all many others. well, the, we wouldn't be, will be the people in by to talk about it. so will be our wide conversation about racism. it will be any. and i think this is part of this is a central part of the issue. also because we as, as lost a lot to do with diversity,
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seen as something necessarily new in italy while we have other communities, gotta be very tree and italian community somali, telling community for being present in the country for decades. well, obviously the sole source connection with the through colonialism, at least from the mentally. it feeds into the cries of fascism require more over time. all the talent colonialism is something that is still not present and not the stuff. we have dark history coming and we're always sold on conversation, but resident choice is just to a rush, everything down the carpet from the we have to talk about politics and political climate because we are just a month away. p chat before a snap election. we did a little bit of getting around to see what politicians were saying about a leakage death and also about immigration and migration. have a look here. i pick cats and some thoughts and some, some tweets for gay mattie,
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as harvey is the leader of the far right. luther says, well, he treated italian for the lease races, people in the world, someone on the left instead decided to exploit that poor man mascot. one thought there another that's enough. we can't take any more cities out of control. illegal immigrants who land every day and more, more violence in the streets. but for the left, the problem is the right one was i, i feel like you know, where i'm going to, it is time to reverse the course and restored dignity to italy by defending it's borders. this is all on the lead up to an election that's happening in mid september. angelic her. what does that tell us about the way politicians are thinking about people of color, immigration migrants who are in italy right now? well, you know, really confirm once more how our bodies are exploited by the political discourse in 2018 when a leg but leg my, my, till sylvania morgan in to, to was still
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a want. and let's remember for the 1st time in europe, italy had to partially spark plugs in power. well, leg, especially. they base their electra campaign on anti black and to immigrant on to refugees discourse and the citizenship. low blood work to angela was mentioning earlier as been as strategically use and it was a winning weapon. and so again, you see that he is always the condemnation of the act, that poor man, without technology, as we said, that he was black. that he was a refugee, that he was poor, that it was disabled. so all of these is brushed off to just a and not to talk about race. and we can see how yes, ga maloney. now we had a woman seen as something a progressive. but what kind of ideas she has, what kind of part to shoot present is a far right party. that is that direct heritage of the posse,
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spotty. so these are the people who are about to quebec. many chances to lead our country and is frankly warren. i wondering if that can go to guy. i think a fest i can. yeah, i mean you see you see it's always white people. the politicians in italy are basically all white, 99 percent are white and so they keep on sometimes roving themselves. the people i'm talking about races them, but they're not direct address seen of the problem. and so they're constantly absorbing themselves. even the policeman was doing the same because they all belong to the same system, all white supremacy and institutions. and another big problem that also below on the week and on the bagley party, that is the central problem for me, is that migration is always treated and sold as an emergency. whereas is one of the
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most ancient phenomenon of human b. yeah, and it's always revise when americans were really a really good at migration. they migrated over a year and much of europe as well. okay. and let me get back to adding one more voice to our conversation. this is maria totality, who was really, really moved by what happened to alley car. just a few days ago. this is what he told us as a black reader, mentally, i'm particularly devastated and impacted by the sudden violent death of elisa sanchez, the latest of a series of murderous crimes against black people in italy. but these isn't evidence of showing that black people in italy are law safe in these countries like people are not safe, especially if the issue lose hold on just one off race was also the one of poverty or the one of disability. so i think that the next few months of combining are going to be fundamental for especially the progressive parties to promote an agenda
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is also about the fact the black lice matters in this country and we won't be rolling on the offer. phobia promoted by the narrative of the far right our audience watching on you should thank you for your comments in your questions. have a number of questions for you guess they are instant answers, so one sentence answer so we can get to as many as possible. this one and napoleon, we need harsh punishment for races, kwanza thoughts and media thoughts. that's for sure. we don't have yet a lot that they racism as a criminal offense itself. we only have the aggravating. i at a so while that will happen in the next year or so. is it imminent or still what to be done? oh it's not even been discussed yet. ah. okay. all right. never saw it here. this is from brad. what initiatives can be taken to make coach or assimilation easier on
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both sides? angelica well, i'm not sure i would talk about cultural assimilation because a simulation is about problematic award. i think that that is this idea that black people, people of color are new in this country is, was angela was sent earlier and we are defined often, 2nd generation. so we're also fed up obese because we're not 2nd or 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th generation suite time to recognize that italy is not a white country. and there is a lot of mixing in this country. i want to leave you with the voice of charity or yakking. she is the wife of alika. this is what she is hoping will happen with her husband's case. and it just is from i was one other thought i wanted and it justice was restored. most it been is too much is too much for me. i don't. when francesca montela, who has a leak,
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his lawyer got in touch with us early on today, this is what he told us. we are waiting for psychiatric report. the killer, we don't believe has a mental illness, the killing was deliberate. what we're looking for is justice, not revenge. thank you. angelica kwanzaa, angelo shining light on how difficult it is for italy to talk about racism. you prove the opposite right now on the stream. we thank you for your thoughts and for your participation. i'll see you next time. take everybody. ah. the latest news as it breaks out, which is same rocky streaming overhead coming from garza into israel. and there's been schools and schools have been the star of been with detailed coverage with pension high in water. so near the philippines, we'll be looking at today that is states for every new commitment from around the
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