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other of attack in the u. n says at least 77 people have died during storms and flash flooding in yemen. in the past 2 weeks about 35000 families have been effected, most had already been displaced by civil war. lasting is headlines. got more news coming up here, not 0 right after inside. so let's get to the bottom line. what does the new forever proxy war mean for america and nato? it's very hard to say we're, the escalation stopped. is it a mistake to open up? is that a pandora's box? if you want to be ready for the next pandemic, you figure out this part of the bottom line, your weekly taken us politics in society. europe suffer in the midst of record play, pain, droughts, wildfires, and feat waves. climate scientists say we need to adapt to the new reality. how do we prepare our cities and change our behaviors to cope with extreme weather patterns?
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this is inside story. ah . hello there and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. adapting to climate change is no longer an option. it's an obligation that's the warning from france as green transition minister as people in europe experienced rack or breaking droughts, wild fires and heat waves therapy and drowns observatory. as recorded water shortages on more than half of the continent, meteorologists have warned this could be the worst route in 500 years. in germany, water levels in the rhine have fallen so low that cargo ships are having to reduce their loans. the lack of rain in italy has devastated is agricultural heartland and parts of the you k have impose water restrictions where we challenge reports. nice
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weather for ducks is what they say in england when it rains. well this is anything but it's the driest sama for 50 years. grass has shrivelled to straw. the ground is cracked. reservoirs and rivers are low, and drought has officially been declared across large parts of england. in some areas there are what companies bringing in place, for instance, temporary use, ban cycled hose, bite bonds. that's the right thing for those companies to do where they have particular concerns. and it's a small sacrifice, but people to make in order to ensure that we've got adequate water resources next year from space the parts conditions are just as obvious. the picture on the left is july last year, a normal enough summer. on the right, august 2022, from green's to browns and yellows. a couple of months ago where i'm standing now would have been the water line of rush, may a pond on wimbledon common. but now look at it. you have to go good. 50, you know, so meters,
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this way to get to the new water line. this poland is now little more than a puddle. and this is happening across large parts of the country. the water systems like this, becoming extremely stressed, stressed enough here for the fish to barely have enough water to cover them. it's worrying stuff, any one paying attention. i find very sad. why, if i did the good to know in nature, the ground is so hide take. bruce can have the worms is nasty around when you see things that you realize how different is in this grade of the graph. the worried it starts the heat. last month, england experienced its hottest ever temperature $40.00 degrees. the 10 hottest years since 18. $84.00 have all happened since 2002, and none of the coldest this summer may turn out to be an anomaly for the data
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suggest not. and that means more fires, more extreme temperatures and more droughts to come re talents out as air, under or hot and dry conditions are fanning the flames of wild fires in france, spain, and portugal. hundreds of crews of trying to control a huge blaze. in southwestern france that you use the earth observation programs as last ways of the constant and north africa are at risk of catching fire. ah, well, let's now bring in our guess all of them joining us from london today. we have julia barker, letty us visiting senior fellow at the euro, mediterranean center on climate change. clare fall as the co founder of extinction . rebellion that's a movement that advocates for action on climate change and ill kellman, a professor of disasters and health at university college london,
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a very warm welcome to all of you. julie, there have been warnings about climate change for decades, and yet would it be fair to say that somehow we've been caught off guard by this extreme weather in europe? yes. well, great to be here with you. yes, it's true. we've known that sir. things like this would happen since probably the late seventy's. that was the 1st time we had a report telling us that the climate system will change. and when the climate system changes, extreme events can change. you can see and severity and you know, likelihood that is what we're seeing today. there's probably a signature of our changing climate and the events of this summer. so at one level you might say that we shouldn't have been surprised that this would happen and we should have been prepared. but the reality is that there are 2 things are in on one is the climate system is changing. but the other thing that we're seeing is the failure of the institution is an infrastructure, but we've set in place of the last 100 years to deal with the variability of the
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climate system. no drought is an actual phenomenon, but scarcity, that requires us making some mistakes. and i think what's become evidence the summer is that's the infrastructure that we have in the institutions that we use to manage our resources are simply no longer fit for purpose. if this anomalies normality of 24 to 4050, then we have to really change that. and we'll certainly get into ways that we need to adapt to the later discussion in festival. could you just expand for us on the far reaching effects that droughts have? because this is something that we're not that used to in europe, as, as julia says, you know, our systems are set up for these kinds of extreme weather. can you just explain to us what a drought is? what it does beyond giving you a brown lawn in your back garden drought is in effect, lack of water, not enough water,
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but it's not just about rainfall or in other places. snow melt is also about the amount of wash that we're using. or in fact, over using so we've known for decades that droughts harton, that's always the case regarding rainfall variations. we've not said are power water systems and or water management system to be able to properly deal with these variations. we have more people. we're using more washer, a lot of the pipes are old in the u. k. and so they are leaking. this means that drought in itself is quite difficult to understand, given the yes, absolutely, the changing rainfall makes a huge difference, as does a heat because thought means the more bock rating with when it comes to actual water use or over use than we very much need to look to ourselves directly to ensure that we don't cause create a drought and absence of water, no matter what the rainfall is or is not doing. and if we do what's going to happen,
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we're already saying pharma is saying that the yields are going to be down with the transportation problems in rivers. shortage of power supplies creased expands with what it actually means to be in a state of drought. so this is a challenge, it is going to result in less electricity. it could be rolling blackouts that could be less supply available. if we turn out to a situation where we cannot use the normal river systems that we use to bring to move food around, then there could be food shortages and supply shortages. it also means that we have to recognize that when we do need to drink a lot in the heating humidity, we're continuing to use water. and it is devastating for the farmers who are being hit in so many other ways. they are the ones feeding us. and so it's not just about transporting food, it's all about ensuring that we can grow the food again. so much of this come down to water management. why are we using to make longs green with artificial plants,
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robin supporting our farmers? why are we so reliant on systems like rivers which fluctuate anyway, recognizing that extreme top and so it really is about long term changes to society . so we live better, healthier and safe, your safer no matter what the water or rainfall does or does not to. so clever. why? if it, do you think that we have ignored all the mornings? why have we not set up better water management systems? well, i think the 1st thing to say about why we're prepared for this is because there's been a generation long campaign of lies and misinformation to make sure that people don't take this problem seriously. when living in the wake of the success of what fossil fuel sector have done, certainly throughout my lifetime, it's been very difficult to find a space until very, very recent years where people would admit that common changes definitely being caused majority by carpet emissions. majority by the fossil fuel cetera. so that's
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been a massive problem. but then on top of that, you also have an economic system which is set up to engage in perpetual growth on the finite planet. and that is working alongside an economic political system, sorry, which is short term is by its design. and so, you know, it thinks from about him when we 1st came out, i think the less unknown kind of demands of us was for a citizen participation in democracy for citizens assembly. where ordinary people would be furnished with all of the evidence from $360.00 degrees of all of the issues. and they would be able to design the radical campaign, the radical and policy strategy that you would need to implement. rapid d carbonite ation. in a fair and just way and keep everybody as safe as possible and to minimize the risk in the homes, but that we know about it. and so it's a, i would say it's an intersection of multiple systems completely incompatible with solving into, in, in quote, solving you can't of his classes. but you know,
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it's incoming incompatible with, with dealing with basically do you feel but it was, it has been up to now quite difficult for the general public for all of us to grasp the climate change because it was, it felt like it was some distant threat in the future, it wasn't here and now, but now it is actually here. and now we had from a roy's report, the man saying it starts to hit home when you can actually see what is happening. so you do feel that now it might be a bit easier to force change. well, i think now it's obvious. you know, the, the things that we've been anticipating and people been talking about. yeah, they're here and they're not just here in the world as they have been for a long time and the majority will but the here on our doorsteps in europe and in america and so on. so yes, it's easier because you don't have to have the kind of inane argument about whether or not it's real, whether or not it's going to happen. but the problem is that by the time you're failing these effects, it's arguably fall far too late to begin acting. so we are,
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we are past the deadline for taking action and we really, really need to act like that, you know, so it's no longer a case of let's work out how to do the most rapid mitigation. but we also have to do the most rapid pace. busy and you know that the environment agency in the u. k. release. the press release last year, which really caught my attention. the title was adopt, or di, what they were basically saying was we won't be able to help lots of communities because too many are going to be affected by devastating floods and devastating impacts from extreme weather and the impacts of climate change. and so we know that this country is woefully underprepared, and we've had, you know, lots and lots and lots of warnings. but as with lots of things, we can see in politics at the moment. the people in power in this country doesn't seem to want to prepare to weather sharks that they know fund welcoming. do you agree with that? do you feel that this government, especially for the u. k. as a role in london or you all in london? do you feel that it does feel an urgency to this problem?
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does it feel an urgency to adapt? well, i mean, i think it's a common problem most, not just the che, a thing across europe. and indeed, in the united states, we just have lost the habit of thinking about the landscape. and that has very practical financial implications. mean, it used to be the case that the amount of investment that went into the landscape to construct the sort of infrastructure that now is failing, was very significant with significant other money that you need to spend in order to change the landscape and capture water. when there is and deliver it where you needed and managed, for example, a transition of the agricultural system of the last 2030 years. that's kind of gone out of fashion along with the states intervention in the basic infrastructure of society. and so, you know, we know this type of problem, we know how to solve that. that is a combination of them was saying, of infrastructure and different management modes, right? it's, this is not a mystery how you sold this,
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both until we pay attention and we start also devoting resources to it. we won't solve it. i should say that one last thing on this, which is whilst we all fixated on europe. we order. remember that, for example, in the horn of africa, 80000000 people are food insecure and going through famine because of drowsing hitting that part of the world. and that part of it has nothing close to the infrastructure and institutions that we benefit from in europe. and to me, that is where the real catastrophe is happening will be sort of able, at least in the short term, to eventually manage the change in climatology of the next decades. but they're, you know, they're not, they're struggling today, right? so we also have to keep an eye on the rest of the world and we see our own problems . i'm instantly that you use the word solve because that's exactly what class said we couldn't do in this situation. but she same thing we can do. there is hope. i depends on what problem you're talking about. i mean, i think, you know, we've, i just wrote a book on both of the 10000 years history of our really issue ship. it was. and
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it's a dialectic relationship. we've always been in this dialogue and this dance between our expectation or what normally he looks like the investments they were can make on the landscape just for me to cater those expectations and the reality of the climate system. so solving it is not about, you know, fixing what we want and then just turning the environment around us so that it delivers whatever we need. solving. it also means adjusting and adapting our behaviors and changing what we grow, where and changing some of our habits, right? so i think the question of adaptation is not one of fixed what you have to they just figure out a way of delivering, i think your question notation is, how do we live differently in a world that serve, feels different from maybe what we had 20 years ago but i guess that's the crux of it, isn't it? elena? how do we live differently? it is no touristy, difficult to get people to change their habits, change their behaviors. how do we get people to do that when it comes to water? this is where a balance of trying to ensure that people understand the science and are willing to
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follow it as well as top down legislation. so it is difficult to get people to change in a whole so way when they recognize that they are going to be healthier, they'll be safer. they're going to save money, lives will be better. this is how we should bring people on board. and despite the difficulties, despite the urgency, we do have a long history of improving society. when it comes to quality and equity, we have a long way to go. but on the other hand, we have come also from a long way and made fast improvements. if we look at other major risks, such as smoking, smoking indoors, most public places is not permitted in the u. k. across europe, but unfortunately, it does happen and other places, road safety, the devastation of vehicle crashes, is something which we really have to tackle. again, with huge urgency, but we've made huge strides in the u. k and across europe regarding that they have
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been too slow. all of these have almost been generational. we don't have time. so it spelt saying, look, things are difficult. there is urgency for change, but people are willing to do it when they recognize that it helps themselves in their for helps others. is part is part of saying, well, what government to be want to vote for who do want to elect to ensure that the laws and the monitoring and enforcement are there and drop the whole host of long term examples where we've seen successes to do far, far better than we are doing now, but ensuring that there's a lot of hope there and a lot of so many local inspirational samples from what's called gorilla gardening, where people take over dead space in cities like london and girl fruit and vegetable to some incredibly progressive climate change related legislation which has changed our greenhouse gas engine clad. do you think that people are willing to change their behaviors? do you think there's going to need a comparison stick approach?
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when we look at seatbelt wearing, we look at smoking, all of it came with punitive measures that came with government bands, very clear policy guidelines, but forced people to change their behaviors. do we need that as well as greater education? well, you probably at this point need both and, and an enormous amount more creativity because as i was with i fall down the road. but we did say in coverage for example, what people were willing to do when it came to supporting people in the local community. when they realized that the, you know, people needed to, to pull together. and you can see in lots of scenarios, the certain people in are in also movement landscape that like very much to, to focus on the goodness of people's responses to disasters and to, and her social difficulties rather than just solely to the negative effect. but the thing that's completely lacking in almost every place where i can look contest and that the in this country for a long time is a thing called leadership. we need to show the public good information that they
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can trust. that needs to be a public information campaign so that people understand the reality is what's actually happening with climate change. and then for example, once you're having a conversation about the problem, farm as a facing with the, with the water supplies and not being able to great crop. but it would be really useful then talk about the emissions of farming the transition that's needed and agriculture. the part that plays in making the world hotter. and so all of these conversations you could see in the public space, they could be tied around in a, in a, in a much more useful way so that the public can join old adults and where, wherever the impacts coming from. and what do we need to change and how we need to change it and how quickly we need to change it. but the problem that we've got here and probably in lots of other parts of the world as well, is the total deterioration of trust in politics. and i think this recent administration in this country has absolutely denigrated public complex life. and so that's a massive problem because where we need leadership, we don't just not have it, but we also don't have the trust in the systems as opposed to provide it. so even
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if someone shows up and shows good need to ship the publican now going to be very suspicious both to should we trust them all they like the last person, you know, all they telling us the truth about this issue and they even understand it. you know, lots of british m p don't even understand climate change really. i spoken to some of them. i know people are in that conversation and there is no mandatory requirement for the people who are leaving this country. didn't actually understand the problem. did you agree with that? do you agree that we are facing a lack of leadership when we need it most? and if so, where does that come from? i'm looking a particularly at athens, which is just a designated europe's 1st chief heat officer. a woman who's very inspirational and is focused purely on adapting the city to rising temperatures. that's the kind of leadership i assume that claire might be talking about. we don't see any of that in the you can much of europe. where does it can? i guess it, well, i mean, i think both karen and milan arising, james,
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besides the fact that this is ultimately a political issue that requires political leadership because it's about how we're going to live together, the landscaper going forward. and so you need leadership and you also need institutions. institutions include the kind of the kind of positions that you just described in athens. but there's one thing that's particularly point to note here, which is you need leadership in particular because you need to sustain focus and commitment to this issue. crew crises and out of crises, right? because range will come. this drought will pass, but the problem will not right? so that the idea that the catastrophe is the only symptom of the problem is a mistake. this trout will end. people will forget that the summer was as catastrophic as this may be. another one in a few years, but the kind of solution that we need, the kinds of investments in infrastructure in agronomy in management that we need requires sustained commitment. so the require story and they require political and institutional leadership. and so that's frankly in all of us,
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it's on the kind of activism but, claire, those is on the scholarship that they learn to susan and it's on the writing that i do. every one of us is responsibly to try and raise the profile of this. so that we can start describing will that be to ship news look like claire while we wait for that leadership, what can we do with individuals to combat droughts like these one to what, what water usage is? can we change? well i'm, i'm not an expert on how you would use wat consumption. i certainly don't, don't think that there are super easy ways for the majority of people to change. they will see usage beyond, you know, being mindful of the ways that they, that they use in their home. and basically all my gardeners, as people have brightly said, you know, it's not a priority to keep your lawn in perfect condition at times like these. but as you might expect, my, my argument is going to be that the biggest thing that you can do against these things is to go and join movements and to make very, very loud and clear. the political requirement to respond to,
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to climate and culture crises and for the people to show the strength of, of force that they, they will demand the changes to happen. and if the people in charge won't make those changes happen, the people are going to have to put together to make a lot of changes happen. and i think there's a growing sort of inspiration amongst people in our movements to start to take action which is constructive and to take action together, which is community focused on community lead and to, you know, try and build collective power from, from the ground up. because we're not going to see as, as, as i've been said, the ends of, of these kinds of impacts. and they're also going to get worse, the guaranteed to get worse to some time, even if we do reduce emissions. and we're going to be going through these like progressive kind of crises including was including food shortages and all of the kind of international difficulties come to come with. ok, city and,
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and the results impact. so yeah, it's about people power for us and please do join x r. if you can say that last word to you, are you optimistic? but we can make the necessary changes that we can adapt to this new reality. i don't see that there's any other choice except to be optimistic. it's exactly has been discussed. we need to leadership. it's up to us to decide the leadership. we also have to make changes that give people alternatives. if we were going to price petrol, actually, according to its cost, that would make unaffordable for many. so we need to ensure that we transit, that means it's up to us to make a demand for what we need. we can do that by being optimistic by being inspirational. it's the only other choice is to give up and say it's just hopeless . why bother? and i, i'm not going to do that. ok many thanks to all our guest yearbook yoletta, claire foul and elena coleman for joining us today. and thank you to for watching.
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