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stories from global markets to economies, and small businesses. to understand how it affects our daily lives in our museum in counting the cost on our g 0 i i have for me, ok, welcome to the stream. the number of people making dangerous and potentially deadly journeys across the mediterranean is on the rise. again. let's take a look at the numbers. so this is from january to right now, and we're looking currently at the central mediterranean sea journeys this year, going from libya to italy, compared to the same time last year. 44 percent more crossings are being attempted . let's take a look at the eastern mediterranean route and that's the route that takes more
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migrants from turkey to grease twice as many crossings as previously. and that is last year. at the moment we have numbers of about a 1000 people either missing or dead, attempting to make those crossings. and we're asking, why are these migrant crossing still happening? why people still dying, etc? that is our conversation today. we start with the international organization for migration. here is that a rico soda situated mediterranean continues to be called our number of this year and continue to have various conditions in the detention center where. busy are we don't consider the state and therefore said martin locations need to be research, ration and responsibility share of this mandatory mediterranean. i guess today i
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have all got experience when it comes to migrant crossings across the mediterranean . molly, welcome nicholas. get to have you alessandro. welcome lovely to have your expertise on today's show. molly, please introduce yourself to our global audience. hi, my name is molly black, who i'm a reporter at the new paper base in london. get to have you nicholas. welcome to the street. please introduce yourself. yes, thank you for me. my name is nicholas of exercise and i am the head of wish i know them. it's on some point. yeah, the doctors without borders in greece, and of course we work with the migration shortly in the country. and alessandra, welcome to the program. so good to have your expertise here. will you introduce yourself and tell us, where were you sitting right now? yes, my name is alice on the bottom of a low risk job. and the notion making, which is
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a rescue best out of the city. i think it to have you. thank you so much for interrupting your mission to join us today. if you would like to talk to any of i guess you want to know more about michael crossing the course, the mediterranean, that not happening right now. join us, but your comments or questions right here on youtube. molly, you have been reporting for almost a month now. and watching see rescues happening when people are being rescued when they talk to you on board the rescue ship. what are they telling you? what are their stories? i think the stories i've been sucked by, how similar they are about see how many patterns tc throughout the stories and also by the length of the journey that people are making. i think as a sort of misconception, i'm often in europe about how long these studies take and then reality most people and i was in to do on both the ation viking, when i was back and often you know, 2019 or 2020 from the home country and been traveling all that time. so that
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stretch of crossing the mediterranean is actually the last stage really of, of what is a really very long journey on stage. you know, they faced huge risk when and huge challenges as they cross through africa towards libya and then within libya, it south so many people would tell me, i'm sure remarks actually of puerto and beatings that they'd experience on the dirty hands they say of libyan gods and also people sharing experiences of things that happened along the, somebody, women, all and believe the rates along the really extreme, the journey from thoughtfulness and, and so many people said very similar accounts of what happens each stage of experience because there's a shorter route for my guns trying to get from turkey to greece. does that mean that they turn up in a good state, a good mental state or the still a traumatic journey?
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it is a shorter route need. having, having been on a vessel myself in 2016, i can compare with a central ned and i relate to, to molly has been saying so. no, it's not the same journey, right? but this does not by any means, mean that the people that end up in the show on the shores of the greek islands, for example, the end of the island of sam was where m s f is active r r. i n a good state of mind or even if physical, a good state and what we have been seeing is the effect of the mental health burden that these people are carry alongside when they arrive. and then of course, we come into the violent border party, says that the authorities employ once they are on land. so it's interesting to see that these people come. and the 1st thing they have in mind is to hide themselves for days in a row,
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in order to not get caught. and in order to not be forced to be returned to the course of turkey. when they fail from nicholas, i remember setting out there were many news networks around the world in 2015 the coverage of how many people were trying to get to europe. it was, it was an international crisis with definitely a european crisis when not at 2015 levels, but why i'm more people now making a journey. when i believe the statistics all over to 1000000 people have made that journey over those 8 years. but why i'm all people risk in allies to do the same thing. i mean, just because we think that we can regulate or control the migration roads. this is, this is not the reality of the people that are actually traversing them. we will never stop people for, from seeking out safety from picking out security. and we might never even
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understand their particular reasons, right? we think value has to be war. it doesn't have to be just war. it could very well be that in countries where the regimes are quite authoritarian, if family may be may be facing risks themselves, individual risks that make them leave, that simply make them believe, rape or sexual harassment can, can be a reason for, for someone to undertake the journey as difficult as it may come in as long as it may be. and this is why we're seeing people arriving on the coasts of europe, or trusting the boarders because they feel that the see the right thing to do for their families. for the people who stay behind and we will not recurse that same, it's not as easy and blocking a route. alessandra, what have you seen that you will never forget? what rescue have you seen?
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we have lena, unfortunately, true, similar, i should correct. quite be impressive. in my mind, always remain the last may when we arrived. unfortunately too late on a scene where we have been completely alone without any kind of coronation from european alternatives. and, and we found the remaining the flash drive with $130.00 people drones. and they were both which was completely broken by the state of the sea and everywhere actually navigating sailing through which emerging from the water. so where i think you find me, i was just going to say that for me i see some of because i was on both the ation viking. i'm wow. and i think one of the things that i actually found,
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the most so memorable, i guess with the, the hopefulness, the optimism and the joy that people with that experiencing even after going through these journeys. i don't know if this is something you found out a fundraiser, but you know, the shape of happiness and optimism and determination to, to get to back to life that people have despite having taken off and lasted for several days and, and been really quite herbert fake and it was up to the moment because joy, i think that stuck with me in terms of, you know, children carrying on playing and just being children, you know, in the face of this huge, huge adversity. yeah. yeah, absolutely right. and when the people spend a few days in the shipper which is a temporary placement safe place, they just come back to be your mom again and able to migrate on people that can put them then they just fade them because it just means
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like me like you enjoying the life that sometimes i mean, i mean i can buy that, but it's absolutely through what to say and promote you. explosion, joy really? especially in the last day when the national park safety for those molly, i'm going to i'm going to sandra. oh nicholas, go ahead. ahead. sorry, i was sorry for me. it's for me, it's interesting because i have been on the boat and, and really very much the experience of both of them. and it's very easy to see how people forget, right? you pick them up from the boat, you pick them up on the fi in the middle of nowhere. and then 48 hours later, these people just simply, it is if they forgotten where they have been and of the human and dangerous. for me was amazing to see that on some was based on the island of thomas, one of the border islands in greece. right. it's the same thing. so these people come,
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they come on land. the 1st thing they tell us as doctors without borders and m. s f is please let no one send us back where we came from. so that's their 1st concern. 2 days later, if they manage to enter the actually the actual camp, the close access center. and although they are locked up in some ways, right it's, it's a close center. it doesn't really allow for freedom of movement. once b c, as during our mobile clinics, a few days later, it says if they are grieving old friends again it's, it's, if they're forgetting that yeah, go, they have landed on the island and they will be restricted until their length. the long process goes through that, that they still feel that they are amongst people that they know just because they've seen us upon arrival. it's an incredible feeling of how people have transform. i'm going to show our audience nicholas some of molly's reporting. so
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have a look here on twitter, molly. molly's been documenting what she's been seeing, what she's been doing. her reporting. she witness 3 recipes 1st hand in hand. the people report from dangers both in the central mediterranean, while he there was one par. and i, i've, i've been watching all of your work in the last 3 days. there was one part where a family member of this, he recognized another family member. and they were on the ship and they hugged. and it was so wonderful and so joyful. and so happy, there were little kids. i was a baby rescued. it was or of humanity, a little side to humanity. and they look so relieved to be safe. yeah, it's quite a bizarre experience. i'm not sure if the others will agree, but you will may see like the high is on the low of humanity in terms of what people experience, you know, moment to see a cover where they really think that they're going to die. that's a reasonable thing to see you. and then when they get on the boat and you got it so,
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so somebody reification and things like the story that you can experience and it's a very strange shift between 2 extremely extreme sets of the medicine. so yeah, there was a moment when one of the you base with the box up into smaller mesquite go out to the boats and distressed, put people on board to bring the back to the ship. and as they got back home to the sit, there was a man who got on board katy, the women who had already been rescued, recognize him, and he picked up a child. and so data for. yeah. all right, remarkable. we have so many questions for you. get hopefully you can try and also we're going to be very brief answers though. ricardo wants to know, nicholas, what do you mean when the migrants arrive on the shores of the creek island? aren't they then safe? nicholas?
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yeah, i mean the question is a good one. i mean you would think they would be right. you would think that this is the end of a very long journey. well, it isn't a friend, ricardo has to understand that even on land these people are in danger. and what do i mean by that? they would hide because if found by the authorities, by the border authorities, by the whoever is responsible for guarding the border, they would often be summoned, assembled and sent back to the water. they would be left adrift in boats without mutters until the curtains and lead them to where they came back from. i mean, you have to understand that the distances are small here, but the uncertainty and according to our, some of our testimonies that have
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a very touching. so people say, you know, you get, you get to step on land, you feel that you're in europe. you actually enter the bush of europe and then they just grab you and be violently teach you in ways that you wouldn't imagine including jamie forest, genital examinations, beatings and whatnot. then they put you back on a boat and then you're back to square one after you've tried so much. so no, i'm afraid that the people are not always safe. let me share this because they have done, you know, thank you, nick, us for explain the reality of that situation. alice found the pendulum is watching out right now. he off on youtube that the migrants are very lucky, that they're able to cross into italy. italians are kind of mostly we need to have a worldwide agency to the tech stress ahead and corrected in their homeland. so
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fixing the problems where they're coming from, well for them to solve the problems when they already arrive in italy. i think the italy's attitude towards migrants has changed over 8 years, alessandro. what do you think? whether you are absolute, you're, i, them, but it's not only been added to this change. we'll say in the meantime after. and they can, we can say what they see in the middle around in the room where we operate. and i would say that in the last 5 years, which of the time of tea, we have seen a huge lack of coordination for organizational involving no risk, a p, a huge problem of not sharing information from authorities to the 3rd, from the world really on the line we are seeing that the coastal state,
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unfortunately, they withdraw from the road to render assistance and they basically more they both come very close to the shore. we have seen huge communities. they shall not afraid to see when he was a consequence. cma, the increase of their the dent her, the one who are trying to do all to cross. ah, we a fema that the topic of rescue are 3 which is very well regulated by international or low. you're turning somehow into a migration issue like somehow those things are thin by, according to those 2 different phenomena and the, and then notice in their change in the family could be young, which is up, become very, very put arrive and sometime. and sir, also in a moment way i'm just going to bring in a politician who is well known in italy for his essay from styles and
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immigration, is putting it quite politely. this is mateo saline who actually is served from that the immigration league party. he's anti immigration, he's in the league party, and this is him earlier on in august visiting a center where my grants are and saying that this is not acceptable, but for a very different reason from the reason that we're talking about here. yes. when it was to eula, shinagle is the work i have seen scenes here with children who should be elsewhere . pregnant women who should be elsewhere. young men who should be treated differently. this is not the civilized country. i would like my children to grow up in welcome one year when well it'll be at the. busy the goal of the future governments, if italians choose the lead party, the center right is to return to controlling and protecting the boarders to fully welcome those who are escaping from war, which is a minority of those in italy and come back to border protection regarding nicholas
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what do you do with that political situation as alexander says, is not just italy, there is a change in attitude to migrants to refugees. now, in europe, what do you make of that? how do we get past that? is that possible? that's a good question. i. i think in order to get past that, we need to understand that this is a question of human rights. people choose to come to europe and to go through what they go through. have a right to request asylum the seas safeguarded by the european legislation. it's not just the greek legislation, it's not just one country, is alessandra put it. this is not an issue for italy or pro great. this is an issue that has to be dealt collectively and right now it isn't being dealt collectively. it's such the fees, european union stepping in and saying that, ok,
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nice people are arrive to my borders, have to be respected. so we as m. s, have called for any investigation of violations, right? we, we know very well what migration means as europeans. right? so we can understand the need of people to wish to apply for international protection, and we should guarantee a safe passage so that this is not being done through the promote channels of the traffickers. earlier we spoke to matea, who works with see watch, which is an organization that also helps with rescues of migrants that see who are in distress. this is what she taught. he would have been active in the central mediterranean sea for yes and is also monitoring what is happening our absence in the last month. we have seen that the number of people trying to reach european land actually has been rising. but we also saw that the number of people
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who drowned or vomiting rose out to all the 1000 and on this year. so she can do the best they can best they do not receive any government of support. if they ask you to somebody, the people at one of safety that waited for days and days, it cannot be the job of civil society. you know, status must finally, again engage in social rescue activities. this is why we demand assailants such a rescue operation in the central mediterranean sea. so this is really fascinating money because you have to put it on the ukraine refugee crisis, and then the mediterranean migrant crisis. compare and contrast very briefly. what would you say is the difference? i mean, you know, i'm not going to get into sort of why the political point. so maybe some of the reasons as to why there are differences people, i'm so commit their minds on law, but that also to me, undoubted fact to differences in terms of the treatment. so here in the u. k,
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you know where i'm based and, and what's my report? a, there's a designated scheme for people and fleeing the conflict in ukraine to be housed with britons and stay with and for, for 6 months. because the government led to the 3 different policy from the u. take of meant with regard to ukraine and lots of refugee organizations on humanitarian groups. the i've interviewed have expressed, i guess some confusion and concern about why a similar scheme couldn't be a prince, people from other countries. so the things like when you are applying to reach the k for ukraine, and you can make the cations within the country that you're in. so people know before they have to cross whether they have a be there. and we will be able to come to the you k through official channels, if you want to speak asylum in the u. k, you have to do the on u k. so that's one of the reasons that people think that these crossing the happen a because you actually have to me coffee the made up any before you commit to finding that there are certainly differences that we are seeing in terms of
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a policy approved. and i think also more publicly and there's a real lack of understanding, i think. and i have to say, you know, even if someone who works in this area and what's going on in the mediterranean is something that even i did not know huge amount about in a way that everybody, you know, what was going on in ukraine and hugely important and valuable, but you do you see a discrepancy and public knowledge show money? i just pull that up because our online community right now, what we're mentioning that difference between ukraine, refugees and then people trying to cross the mediterranean one more way. i want to include very briefly interact, conversation, and this is maurice. he spoke to us just a few hours ago. this is the point that he wanted to make and say that we need actual government policy. that look you has to end is draconian pushback policies whereby migrants are being obstructed from reaching you territory often violently in the case of greece. and finally, you has to launch
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a wide scale rescue operation is absolutely shameful that this european community is unable to do what engineers and activists are doing already for years. we all say european commission for their contribution to this, this discussion and particularly for this show, this is what they sent us and shared with us. i'm gonna pick out the bit that really jumped out at me. the new pact or migration, an asylum put forward by the ear commission, includes a proposal for coordinated approach to search and rescue. i do not know how long that bureaucracy is going to take, but i hope it won't take long. thank you so much to molly nicholas and alessandro for helping us understand the mediterranean migrant calls, things that are up ticking right now across the mediterranean. thanks. been part of i shall, and all of you on you chip had commented and asked her questions. i'll see you next
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