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ah, should the west be nervous about turkey's close ties with russia? the 2 countries assuring off their cooperation as moscow faces isolation and sanctions. so as it wages war in ukraine, how will russia benefit from the partnership? this is inside story ah, flow, welcome to the program. i'm tim vanelle. russia and turkey are reported to have agreed on the delivery of
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a 2nd batch of s $400.00 missile defense systems. turkey's decision in 2017 to purchase the russian air defense system was a sign of a deepening pragmatic get complicated relationship between presidents, friendship type one and vitamin putin. but the deal also created a rift between nato allies, turkey and the u. s. leading washington to expel turkey from the f 355 digit program on going to continue to play what it calls a balancing act between russia on the one side and nature on the other. but this doesn't fit well with western countries that threatened to impose sanctions if turkey continues to help russia evade sanctions of its war on ukraine. or in july anchor broke a deal between ukraine and russia to allow ukrainian grain to be exported to turkey . but with weak prices rising because of the war and ukraine and russia's blockade of ukrainian black sea port leading humanitarian organizations, a warning of a global hunger crisis. un secretary general entering quoterush hailed the deal is
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a beacon of hope that would help avoid food shortages from navient of people. worldwide. turkey lies opposite russia and ukraine across the black sea and both country perceive it as a neutral mediator. so turkey hosted several rounds of talks with them aimed at halting the war and ukraine, the spot nato membership turkey rejected calls to boycott russia, and instead posting and heard one say they want to deepen their ties. but turkey also has a good relationship with ukraine, even supplying turkish, made drones for use in the war. talks between ukraine and russia has since stole the let's bring it out. guess maximilian has is a fellow at the foreign policy research institute and an expert in your ration affairs. he joins us from london. the miller summit sky is a specialist in the contemporary history of the middle east and a research fellow at the institute of world economy and international relations.
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she joins us from moscow. finance gun is a former tucker, diplomat and director of it. um, a think tank that focuses on turkey's foreign security, economic and digital policy, and he joins us from a stumble. thank you very much. all of you for joining us here on inside story. i'd like to begin with, you need it, summer sky, or how have russia and turkey gotten to this point of cooperation? this point of closeness all, they all began brockman, the brown and the show. and they been for change. like as they shake for bad partnership. and partially, but it's still partially based on their whole lot until i was done was in the beginning of the thousands but fresh rookie, they were like expecting will corporation direct from the european
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partners. but eventually they did not get why the one dirty did not get its tried to watch it. membership and ross had did not get the level of political corporation. and so that was one of the basis for reparation. besides, to have a mixture of overlapping and call it charging and credit the luxury jane and to tell which allows for the call ration and the same time in 10 dialogue on the issues rich, the more fun we confronted like from softball team. there was a crisis never nation's one rush, judge down, but tricky a but off towards their nation repair to make sense. and today acknowledge
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relations remain very high for the one included in what jo, john, bob, nurse, and join trade or trade. and they auto braking france on the farm and then. ringback somebody in the french foreign john ron joe, the key in the corporation. despite the differences, the difficulty. ok, we'll be talking a little, but later on in the show about the economic ties and how important they are to both parties. i don't trust you. maximilian has in london. how has the previous relationship between turkey and russia been up until now? because i haven't always seen i to i have they no of course. so as i was just being this guy, 7 years ago, the traditional regulations were at a navy, are they essentially supported opposite sides in the conflict in syria. and then we had an incident with the turkish shooting that
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a russian job frustrating over at aerospace, they called, and nato support, but didn't get nato to respond to the level that they wanted to construct. races were really changed quite markedly. however, the next year, when the government, all that accused the united states of being behind the crew, that was what then wanted to make this very large, 400 deal. also to agree a deal with russian nuclear power. and to build further supplies, a ring russian gas, and this undermined from europe point of view of the southern chord. our strategy which was to have turkey be around to buy gas from azure by john and ideally, further afield, as well as an alternate to russia. now we've seen the turkish economy in crisis for the last year, plus and inflation numbers that make those in the west pound comparison. but there seems to be no change in approach. it certainly has carved itself out a rather strategically important region role in the region and you. busy particular
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of course, but also over the conflict and kind of our media and as a bizarre and in syria, from the west teams to largely building and some of the other one will i was the election next year. so it's continues to approach it with parents. and so far we've seen that dr. one more into rushes arms. i think he has lives on that. he's opportunistic, he's still, as you mentioned, selling drugs to ukraine. i'm having discussions to broker these grand shipments out. but so far it seems the west approach is one of coming with sticks, although turkey is a nato ally, whereas rushes approach is one of kara sitting in somewhere to get a sanction money out of our currency. so it seems to be alliance and very mutual convenience of the finance organ. in istanbul, i want to get your take on turkey's response to the war in ukraine, kind of generally, because as we've said, it's been towing this line or managing this sort of balancing act.
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yes, perhaps the best way to describe some arrives turkeys. position is to state that church is being pro ukraine without the ty, russia. obviously this is a bit difficult balancing act. but the way that he has so far, i think success will be steered. this policy in this direction was by and this was already alluded to. turkey has continued to supply on drugs. ukraine, which had been on the battlefield. political turkey has been critical off. russian aggressiveness. church, he has not recognized amex ational, crimea. so on all those to go round church, he is on the same page as its name. large. it is also clause the turkey strengths to be the passage of the russian worships at the same time. churches don't mean the
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law not to have the sanctions on russia. the air corey door remains open to on the, on the west of the west meant contin twice a month. and there are new agreements that are being negotiated with russia. so this is the difficult balancing act, and if you basic to take a step back and try to assess what this has to. i think this has enabled church. you to play a particularly mental role. first, the 1st phase of the conflict where tricky was a facilitator to sions, the 2 foreign ministers, ukrainian, or russian form and have met for the 1st time in turkey, off the ship of the war diplomatic delegation. several mentioned turkey, of course, not the dynamics so or have passed the perceived that the dynamics of diplomacy. but nonetheless sure you also to connect to it all but,
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and succeeded in getting the grain deal. and this is important to on the line because it's a time when there's a for understandable reason, the boss not trust between russia and ukraine. these countries have actually negotiated with turkey. so the agreement that enabled a great deal were settled by actual agreements. russia in turkey and ukraine on turkey back by the way. so russia and ukraine between themselves, they have not to make. and this in a way demonstrates the validity of turkeys, careful balancing act was russia seen at oregon. before you move on from you, i want to ask you one more question. president odo on last year. correct me if i'm wrong, said turkey was considering buying more joint. sorry. just considering more joint defense industry steps with russia, including for fighter jets and for submarines. do you see that going ahead?
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no, i don't. i think the news that took you up to, to get the 2nd batch of 400 was essentially the russian to some formation. it is true that there is an agreement in place where turkey got the 1st batch of $400.00 . we can option to buy the 2nd batch, but that option was never triggered. and i don't see that being triggered on the term circumstances where the, what the, the relationship between russia and nato has become so ambiguous and one year because of the brain. and also it's a time when you seeking to get us support all white house and congress in order to modernize chairs and get us 16. so i don't see that happening in the near future. ok, i want to take that back to lead me to sort of sky or so it was a russian, that news agency that reported that the 2 sides had agreed on that 2nd batch of s
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400 air defense systems. even if this is just a, talking about an option to buy the 2nd batch, how is that likely to go down with nato given the war and ukraine? a well, that's probably one be rated by nature countries. however, turkey also has some issues with or purchasing systems from to guess because the us g j the issues with grease which has the tour k 1030, both the danger to grace and to be brief. control over some, some of the islands was an issue where the condition do not use. the u. s. provided assistance against greece and turkey refused. so broadly this a grant to purchase a 2nd part of this ass on resistance one. it was whether it was not,
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again in any way, you'd be just kind of been that bridge probably over some of this night allies, especially because demonstrating that turkey has options it. it's not it doesn't have to buy the u. s. systems it can offer to buy something else, so it probably is part of the bargain and act whether it will be re analyst. ok. maximilian has says talk about the economy. i believe turkey has been working with the kremlin on the parallel import scheme to bypass some with western sanctions. i should turkey be worried about secondary sanctions or what is sort of turkey's role in, you know, russian goods you know, we have seen service in parts and. busy busy a standard go up quite a bit to russia, although that has been applied to dual use goods, which are the ones most directly impacted by sanctions. the real impact of sort of
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that trade basis is whether russia is ultimately supplying 30 with the dollars the because it sanctions you can't really use and which turkey really needs, or whether they're trading rubles for lira which are 2 very currently unstable currencies. and we are experiencing some of the most significant inflation of any economy in the world over the last year. so the difference is they're really matter if there's any dollar involvement, which of course, actually what took a lot more and russia, that would invoke the higher and targeting us sanctions. but you know, to respond to some of the last ones on that as well. i think it's important understand the fundamental issues in the u. s. turkish and western target relationship more broadly are issues that emanate out of the turkeys relationship with russia. they're stressors and aggregating aggregating factors, but everyone is really seen as having undermined countries democratic project and much of the west and having used migration and other tools. ready to try to extract concession before so that relationship is really broken. for example, india,
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which is not a nato member, is also facing any of these questions buys a lot of russian arm supplies, but also western ones has been buying a rational there. we've seen the u. s. congress. busy that endorsed as a waiver on india's own purchase of s for hundreds. so if the diplomatic. busy if it's been turkey and you guys say in the west could be restore. and i think you know, the issue of that 1st s or 100 per just could. you know, certainly alternately be put aside. but it really depends on what they do and how much they try to essentially extract the dollars out of that sanctions of asian and that basis. and if there's a lot of action there that washington doesn't like, it will provoke a very significant risk and secondary sexual scenario. again, president odo on is facing a very dia, economic situation. talking about inflation. i mean, is also facing an upcoming election. how much is that factoring into his decision
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making around increasing ties and economic cooperation potentially with russia quite a bit. because indeed, the, the church economy is having a difficult time. not only from the perspective of stability rising impatience, but also the depletion of foreign reserves. which could down the road to a balance of payment crisis. so the government must at all cost this type of scenario because then that will be basically, it will become impossible for our dawn to win to elections, turnkey goes to a balance of prices. and this is where russia comes in, turnkey is looking to get additional foreign exchange. it's reaching out to a number of regional countries, not just russia, but also the gulf region. but in the case of russia,
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there certainly has been some will with for instance, sub tom. that's the, or the investor and the rates of the 1st trends that will become appraisal in 2023 to be built on the mediterranean cost has decided to, to basically invest in that project by way of the euro bonds. and this is something that scaled off the reserves of the church central bank. so there are some of these initiatives out there, but certainly this is very much related to the economy situation. ok, so the government needs to address, address our policy they're seeing and then come over to maximilian half. so we just wanted to add something. go ahead and you know, i think that's exactly true, this balance of payments crisis and whether it comes before the election are the real questions that certain faces. i think from the western point of view in which
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you are in the. ready united states for which, you know, the bail out might be the wrong term and forms of economic support that could ultimately. ready alleviate turkeys issues, much quicker swap lines. for example, for the circus central bank in to us dollars would not be that costly for, for the west. the question is, is, are there concessions the west and give to turkey on other issues and i don't want to government benefits because about for the price of making it take an actual anti russian auster. i think that would and on a basis a conversation on that basis would try to enable western support. but so far everyone has been shopping around the region even repairing. ready relations with mom and been some modern saudi arabia and to get swap armstrong from all over. and now this russian as well. i think the conversation is more on the west to that as well. but me last summer sky, we've talked a lot about how much tacky needs russia to, to it's struggling economy. how much does russia need tacky given it?
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i guess, west in isolation. i think at that moment cherokee has become more important. russia done, or because it all shop is a kind of the bridge that stuff and i brush it to the restaurant and it just won't thrust economy. it's of course not as you write friday, but it is one of the biggest months sell. and it's also one race, so they will be not paid by son since further on to perform ration by less relations. and so far they secured their later issues and to maintain dog ran the men less russians, a russia more than the syria. sure, it's very on it's whole forms for it's been something like
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how much for the russians are probably somewhere how the europe as it was such as aerospace, was not sure. yeah, that's really on line. listen for lines of business, says russia, russia and turkey, and come to other issues as well. so then again, how much leverage does perky now whole, do you think would the west, i mean, there was the issue of sweden and finland admission to nato corporation on counter terrorism on the migrant crisis. how much leverage this turkey hold and how do you think it might try to use that? well, i mean, the term given charges, geographical position. the fact that it is a natal member, it's future in the west, despite having a number of difficult issues with united states. and would you
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give stroke? you leverage because turkey is very close to and this is perhaps unfortunate to keep, but, you know, it's, it's almost at the center of a number of different crises, syria, iran fight against, read the conversation, refugees and so on. so relations with russia, and therefore this is the geopolitical context where to appease the strategic importance has been heightened if we had lived in a different world post 89 where democracy origin everywhere where, you know, few st would have ended. perhaps 30 geostrategic imports has not been as high, but today, you know, obviously, you know, much more difficult word and we've seen this witness this after the 24 for february with the war ukraine. so in this context,
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turkey remains any porton natal allied despite its difficulties for the western partners. and we're seeing this also very clearly with the session bit sweeter than to mental where turkey for a while block the start of that procedure and eventual b u. a tripartite, you assigned to charge to sweden, attendant to address turkey's concerns regarding the fight against terrorist and particular p k k terrace in those countries. ok, so turnkey using the able to leverage it's international position and just repeat you can stream this from the west. okay. we're coming to nearing the end of the program. i'd like to come back to you maximilian here because something we haven't talked about here, which of course is the factor is the fact that these 2 lead is these 2 presidents are big personalities. they're strong men, they want to at least projects the,
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the image of, of being powerful persona is how has that affected in here when we look at their relationship and how it's changing. i think that i certainly to some western audience, those terms are, you know, synonymous with strong men and not necessarily democratic. and i think that is really the perception and in many ways, the reality of the turkish regime. and at least this is very strong out of the west deals. they don't agree with this behind the. busy to attempt, but that's really poison relations ever since, and i'm a jailing, a lot of deputies for turkey's opposition party. in particular one i'm trying to party as well as really driven issues and relations as well as turkey's increased role in the conflict with syria and elsewhere. so the west really seems to
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believe that everyone is a democrat. there's this famous or brand that he wants, man, you know, democracy is a trained and you get off of the red barn in the society. ready almost essentially every major western publication right about him. but at the same time, the approach to what to do about searching seems to be, well, we're looking at the poles and he's going to lose the next election. but if one doesn't believe that anyone, democrats in the question, is he let himself lose the next election? and so far, i'm not sure. policy makers have a good answer. all right, we're going to have to leave it there. thank you. see back to check in to one of our guests. maximillian has to meet at our sky again and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out there, dot com. and to further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at ha, inside story for me can been out and whole team here. and uh huh. bye bye for now
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