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classified documents while searching the former president's home last week. the justice department says if the affidavit is made public, it will compromise is investigation coming up next inside story. ah, what's behind the recent tension between serbia and kosovo. the 2 sides have met in brussels to resolve a dispute, sparked by vehicle license plates. but are they likely to find an agreement and can conflict be avoided? this is inside stuart. ah,

hello and welcome to the program i manage of june. the leaders of serbia and kosovo have held rare talks in brussels, that european union mediators hope will de escalate growing tensions. the 2 sides have been at odds ever since kosovo declared independence from serbia in 2008. nato says it's increasing its troops numbers along the border with renewed fears of a possible conflict in the region. the alliance is chief, yet sultan bird has met separately with both leaders and called for com, or saying nato troops were ready to intervene if necessary. the latest dispute was sparked last month when kosovo said serbian identity documents and car plate numbers would no longer be valid in its territory. the serb minority in kosovo reacted angrily to the restrictions on movement, prompting causal as government to delay the measures until next month. we'll bring

in our guests in a moment. first, i'll just hear as augment, storage has more from brussels. the 1st meeting of the highest officials of serbia and gustavo, after more than a year, is taking place at the time of high and that's pendulum. and the story that is so strange that the european commission describes it as in the flame about european diplomats emphasized that they are determined that the meeting will continue until a solution to the current crisis is found late. the stages were triggered late in july. i had of course of intention to implement a law making all citizens including serves to use cost of our car plates. also people from selby entering possible would you have to reach tina. you should exit entry documents, which will be used as an id during the day say this more triggered local service, could put up roadblocks and sounded air raid sirens fully stated that even several gunshots have been reported. kosovo. postpone the implementation of the law for one

month and serves every move the road blocks above the vengeance camp stayed ahead of september 1st, which is a new date of planned implementation. nato secretary general yan sultan, there held meetings with vote president of serbia and cosmo prime minister, which was not unusual practice ahead of your facility dialogue. his message was a loud and clear natal peacekeeping mission, gustavo k for his 4000 troops and it's ready to intervene. if stability between serbia and customer is adriece, a call on all sides to show restraint and to avoid the violence. nato continues to monitor close to the situation on the ground. or cave for peacekeeping mission remains focused on it's, you and mandates. should stability be jeopardized. k for stance, ready to intervene, botello neutral on a small saga. now we do not agree on almost anything, but what's important is that survey of you'll stick to international law and

agreements and everything that was signed, crossovers, institutions, and citizens. the current situation have reason to be vigilant, about destructive approach of our northern neighbor dollars crossover, and the region in general, under russia's detrimental agenda for europe and the balkans, both teach. and courtney said that they are willing to work on the escalation in order to find a mutually agreeable solution for the normalization of relations of serbia and its former problems that declared its independence in 2008 in brussels. we're inside story news outage. all right, let's get a closer look at the story. cause of declared its independence from serbia in 2008 after years of strained relations between the majority, ethnic albanian population and minority serbs. but it has not been recognized by the you in or serbia. while the u. s. in some you countries have welcome to move. and serbia has blocked possible from joining various international institutions.

but both are now seeking to join the european union. so normalizing relations as seen as crucial for their bids. ah, all right, let's bring on our guests in persona. when hi dory, a reporter for political europe in sarajevo, alexander our breads are a western balcony analyst host and producer of the podcast. calling and in belgrade, human rights lawyer, milan on 20th, which a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story . well, let me start with you today from your perspective, can this meeting yield any concrete results? what we've seen so far is that because so prime minister i think or to has said that he does not. he's not withdrawing his pledge to apply it. reciprocity measured measures starting on september 1st. which means that kosovo because of our side isn't going to back down from insisting that serbian citizens who enter kosovo not

be able to travel with license plates that are issued in serbia. and they need a special entry documents. and we're at this moment waiting like precisely this moment waiting for the you to hold a conference that had a foreign policy for the european union to hold a press conference and give some indication of what the agreement is in brussels. but what i am predicting in this point is that they're going to try to find an intermediate solution that will try to come over some of the differences that exist between the 2 sides. and in order to like delay the intensity or the tensions that we're seeing right now, milan, serbian president alexander, which said that he expected difficult talks with casa, was prime minister. he said, we do not agree, almost on anything. so from your vantage point, how difficult do you think these talks are going to be? well, i believe that there is an urgent to come to agreement, especially on

a free moment. we saw the measures introduced by the end of july. i mean on the august the 1st the produce and they produce insecurity on the north of cost of all knowing that and knowing all the fact ricky, to security. i believe that serbia is ready and willing to negotiate. they showed it also in the us. there was some agreement, not on the highest level, reach the touch of the agreement on energy sector recently. so i believe that there is potential to be a student on the already fine agreement that service. you'd also insist on the, on the future of the dialogue as, as gotcha, and to see how to overcome the difficulty that exist at the moment. so we saw, i'll be worth the i think few months ago we have the very top discussion as society and parts of the society dealing with getting cost for our relation. i expect that

in the, in the name of security of the population on the whole. busy the agreement, especially on the movement must be on the horizon and that this is a good start, no matter how the positions are far from each other. alexander, from your perspective, what does brussels hope to achieve? both the in the short term and in the, in the long term. yeah, i think this is a really important key question today, especially yeah, the both sides of the conversation or the dialogue installed over the past year or so. now, if not longer, we've seen several flare up in the meantime, and brussels is always attempted or rather vessels has attempted as always, to be the sort of mediating pacifying sides to the eye on it. if we're going to be perfectly honest about those,

i don't expect much more than just the usual kicking the can down the road. brussels is not necessarily the officials in brussels don't not necessarily have you know, much of a carrots or much of a stick to the care that they have offered to both type in this. and i do not expect some sort of gran solution to the, to the outstanding problems when it comes to this issue or any, any thing that's going to go beyond what we've usually heard, which is that both sides have a, a very rigid on the, on the problem with the owner. of course there are many who are worried right now. the cost of 0 in serbia might be headed toward another war. you wrote a piece for political earlier this month where you said that on the ground in cost of people have been downplaying that possibility. and that panic had subsided, at least for now. so what is the mood at the moment? will people christine, are actually as

a said in that article in many others have echoed people ever seen or a surprise that there is suddenly such a big global interest in the conflict between coast when serbia or at the moment where we can. but i guess we should care, be careful with the terms of use and i see conflict, i mean the intractable tensions that exist between the 2 countries. but that are not armed by any means at this point. um, either surprise there such an interest in what's happening because the various forms of are similar forms of violence. intentions have existed and been rec, recurring over the past couple of years. i think everyone understands that everyone in europe is on much higher and a much higher level of alert alertness and, and, and sort of anxiety over this because of the ongoing invasion of ukraine. but people don't understand why people are not interested. on the other hand, i feel like the tent,

the stakes are very high right now because i'm primarily serbia, is the country that's being pushed in a corner. it's being expected to make a final sort of move with regard to sanctions towards russia. is one of the few countries in europe that is not just fitting the sanctions packages against other su federation. and everyone in kosovo believes that because serbia is being pressured by brussels to participate in the sanctions that could be more prone to radical moves, especially when it comes to kosovo. milan, i know you touch on this a bit in your previous answer, but you know where to things go from here. what happens next? what are the next steps? well, i fully disagree with the statement that there is a can and, and the sweep i created before. also during the day during the negotiation. so i will simplify it as, as, as there are. there is the last question is security especially on the nord that people feel and these is a genuine feeling from,

from mr. ben community on the north. there is also the announcement, the president which is, will talk with the serbian community today, coming it down and as you did at the beginning of august, when he had the 1st crisis, we may call it like that the so i wouldn't make any bigger parallel with the russian aggression to ukraine. there is no possibility that anything like it happened in our region. as long as the both parties are dedicated to the dialog. alexander nato secretary general installed and berg has said that the situation on the ground has improved. where do things stand? right now, look, that there's something that has to be said about this and it's related to what it's jumped on the sunday for me. when it comes to kicking the can down drought and baffled. it is important to note that all these meetings have recently been all

about down the road because gospel does not offer anything to any of the sites. and i'm not just talking about cost survey, i'm talking about all of the what to balkan 6 who are attempting trying to be you know, you members at some point down the road. so, you know, in terms of serbia that's, that's confirmed further formalizing the accessory processor, moving it along for cost of what it's just getting visa liberalization, which is in stock for years. so these me, in between, between priest and belgrade are convenient way for both sides and on both ends. now you have, you have strong men, especially especially mister, which is present service. but also mr. court the at the same time, cost side where both sides are flexing muscle and trying to, to, to push the other side and into, into some kind of a corner where they will have to make a mistake. and it's all about this kind of diplomatic flash, political flash. what do you want to call it to?

i'm russell, the taking place to turn to. but when it comes to things on the ground, and this is, i think this is important that somebody might not know because i didn't know what's the last time he wasn't the north. of course a lot of in there talk to people, it's my job to do that. the people's concerns might be legitimate, but people's concerns are not being, you know, where we're talking about ethnic serves in the north cross. there might be legitimate, in terms of them feeling a particular way them feeling maybe afraid or scared or, you know, pushed into a corner again in a very, very direct sense. but belgrade is not helping much either. and belgrade is not helping much, either by a continuing this cat and mouse game with christina without actually getting to any kind of a solid result or any kind of practical resolution to any of the problems. regardless of the provocations from both facts. and that has to be taken into account in terms of just a general security situation. i think that it's,

it's worth noting just 60 kilometers down the road in the capital conference taking place. people are, you know, going on with their lives is if there's, there's no crisis in their thing in belgrade, the capital of serbia and people who have, who have been caught in the cross hairs here, these very ethnic serves that, that we sent an image is talking about are the ones who are legitimately concerned, but i do not see that, you know, their leaders, their representatives are actually doing anything to make their lives better. and this is not just about finding a solution with christina. this is a lot to do. very practical things on the ground where belgrade the claims to be responsible for these people basically does nothing. i have done, has done nothing for years except use them political pong. and this, like i said, captain game between, between the 2. so in the event that fighting were to actually erupt,

if tensions escalate again, you know, cosmo and survey are bound by an agreement in which nato has the final say, i want to ask you just how entwined nato and the you are in the local peacekeeping efforts. nato is absolutely the final arbiter in any conflict or escalation to corrupt between coastal serbia. when denito bombing of the ramp state of yugoslavia happened, or serbia montenegro and always because were to happen in 99, an agreement was signed. that was unprecedented to continue to be impressed and nato history, which basically means that anytime serbia would want to encroach the territory of kosovo militarily or otherwise, it would immediately provoke reaction from nato. so something that is that public might be more familiar with in terms of the article high protections and they don't exist when it comes to costco, even the cost nato member. this is why people on the ground have to some extent

downplayed the possibility of an hour were happening, but if needed, their capital incidence and salvage tensions or even loss of life. but a full out conflict in similar to anything that's happening in ukraine is almost entirely precisely because nato's forces on the ground coast was spent the last 20 years, almost exclusively protecting the northern border and making sure and both the kosovo albanian and the coast was her community are protected in those territories, and i said again, it doesn't mean that there can be instances, i like that, but an actual, a full on conflict is almost entirely unlikely. milan in the aftermath of the latest flare up cost was interior minister, q, serbia, and russia of triggering and supporting rioting. what has the response that been from serbia? well, linking, linking serbia to russia fully is more of the same dilemma there is

through being bullied, fully independent from any russian implants and the future. if y'all, the obligation i served on north is their, their own fake. and great play with that as far as i can see. i've been took also just a month ago digital on a we're natal gear, k for 14, are protecting the mar 3. they're also working on the, in all of the plays and they're also very agile in avoiding getting on the publication from either side. but the thing that i know, speaking with the serbian community on the north, is that the special forces also while entering the north, there are always incidents small incidents. however, if the passions are rising, i believe the incidence can be seen as the publication. and i hope that the specially will not trying to, to do to make any,

any reason for the community that's frightened at the moment to, to react. so the responsibility is shared. i believe that both sides are now meeting in brussels. you front of the community there and old boy and braille. they. they are aware of these facts and everything that both serbia and cough so we'll get there. we'll get it on the negotiating table. i believe that this notion is well placed in belgrade. i hope and i, i, i the, this is the message you transfer those with robin with the when he spoke with him in june, negotiate the table should be the only table for bullying issue. there is no, luckily there is no zaleski in the region. there is no book in the region either. so there is,

there is no possibility for any logic to involve and also pretend fulton bank messages right to the security and then employment to make the person is also giving a strong signal that night. none of the possibilities for greater conflict is knocking on the west and that everybody is aware just following the situation and trying to solve every issue that exists, especially issues related to freedom more meant and any other freedom that should be guaranteed to every while. and also i'm a positive note to serbia supporting the liberalization of where costs are citizens related to the you. and these are the gesture that should be as positive because they will. and they have to the possibility to open many of the person that we're on, on still in, in brussels. alexander, the e u has said that both serbia and constable need to normalize their relations if

they wish to ultimately join the block. if the you were to eventually accept serbia and causal as member states, is that something that would diffuse these tensions at all? that is that that is a really good question. here's the thing for her. for serbia to enter the u. it has to recognize independence, of course. the 35th chapter of the current negotiation deals with exactly that. it is absolutely clear and has become absolutely clear over the years that the only way for service to enter the you and become a full fledged member state is to recognize costs are now what that recognition actually will look like in practice. it's a different thing. obviously there might be a little bit of room to maneuver there, but i don't know. i do not see serbia entering the without actually resolving this in a way. but that's, that's positive for everyone. not just one side on but as far as cost was concerned

. i think there are several things that play when it comes to it's the membership bit. as you know it's, it's bundled together with bothered as a potential quote unquote, potential candidate country. it's what i like to call a cardboard metal. that is, that was just given out to the 22 countries. because 4, based on at least a longer period of people in brussels or the officials and brought them to do an awful feel certain requirements to be full fledged candidate. countries like montenegro, serbia, north stone in obelia. on the other hand, if you look at all the, you know, all the actual practicalities of what life is like in cross all what the politics are like, what the political life like call. so we're talking about the youngest democracy in the world, western style democracy in the world. we're talking about the youngest country. most recently the most country that has most recently declared independence has

been partially recognized in europe. the 2nd youngest and the world. it's very vibrant society, it's a very vibrant environment. it's much more you could even say that it's much more the mechanic than some other candidates countries from the region and spite this, i mean the states are the position that it has found itself in is in my opinion, very. so when it comes about 2000000 people who live there regardless of their ethnic, i sander sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt, but we're starting run out of time. but we only have about a minute and a half left. i also want to ask you, if nato were to intervene or, or step up its presence even further, is that something that would really be a deescalate tori measure, you know what it ultimately help or, or could that actually inflame things as well? there are certain rules and regulations you know,

determine how much involvement nation can have both in cost. and as you know, also in wasn't going to wear it through to the for mission. obviously something would have 2 things would have to escalate between 2 and serbia. first for nita to intervene can be more physically presence on the ground can. can there be more, you know, actual boots on the ground that there were people. yeah. that's, that's a really interesting question. and what about would lead to any thing? i don't think there's a need for that at the moment. i personally don't see it. and i don't see that that would play into this whole thing as sort of a doctor that would, that would make things work. i think nato's presently costs are all. this is a positive thing. i think it makes everyone feel much safer both to be at the carven in community. the ethics serve community and all other communities live in calls. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there today. thanks so much to all of our guests on a hi dory. alexander, bizarre and milan and tony image. and thank you for watching. you can see the

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