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which is investigating his predecessors administration for possible crimes against humanity. as soon as had been, i'm gonna what we're saying is we have an investigation here and it's ongoing. we thought, why do we have to had that human rights advocates have been working to uncover more evidence of extrajudicial killings, dozens of bodies that have been a zoomed have been brought to dr. raquel for tune one of only 2 forensic pathologists in the philippines. and so far i have seen a bar now. he says swearing, not various sign. there should be in case as natur out hypertension, census him on those things. but very clearly for you, there were not natural causes. i yes, definitely. i'm see rapturous mostly head chat, doctor for tune says she can only hope her work will help bring justice. but for families of victims, at the very least, it's closure that has been missing for years. barnaby law al jazeera manila.
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former attorney general has been arrested on charges linked to the disappearance of 43 students in 2014 his. his marilla led a highly criticized inquiry into the case. those were the headlines. nick clark will have the algebra news. our interest in have last time, but next is the stream to stay with us. on cali recalls rivers drawing off and crops parched could drown worse than europe's cost of living crisis. walter, delaying the global recovery and youth employment plus can the tale bomb fix up got his dad's economic crisis a year off the they took power kathy, but cost on al jazeera with hi anthony. ok. when a nigerian st vendor can be beaten to death in bo daylight while people watch. what does that tell us about italian society?
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alika august you quote, was murdered on july 29th. the man accused of killing him. filippo claudio giuseppe for la, so has been arrested and charged with murder and theft. his lawyer and the police investigator say the case has nothing to do with the racism of our luxury. mad eustace. how did total show her? she spoke to the magistrates, gave his version of the facts and said he was sorry, he apologized that the family apologized for what happened. made it clear that there was absolutely no racial element. unfortunately, the terrible act would have been committed anyway, regardless of publishing that of a court order. some way, when we sheal it is a murder determined by futile motives. what emerges from the investigation is that the victim was particularly persistent in bagging money from the attacker and his partner with protested have been rallying calling for justice for alaska and for italy to confront it's his history of racism and xena phobia. earlier today we
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spoke to the lawyer representing a leak, his family, the family then that juliet community and the law kelly gun, reacted with b and the way the wanting to condemn the violence will meet the gaze. they blame the family, wants justice, and does not want to revenge, as well as old people inquiry through the streets all to be done. all the market deluxe decide to do them then their mother is is the king of alaska. oh, gotcha. cool. italy's george floyd moment, what will it take to come from racism in italy? you can join our conversation right now on youtube. ah, having this tough conversation with us on the stream, angelica kwanza angela. welcome to the string. good to have. we'll see if you hear
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angelica, please introduce yourself to international audience. char, good evening, i'm angelica, is that any? and i'm an assistant professor at the university of toronto. i work on issues of race, gender identity, colonial and post colonial italy. thanks for joining us. hello cleanser, welcome to the steam. please say hello to you is around the well, tell them who you well, what you do. a good day everyone. my name is quinn's. i'm. we'll see the sam goes i from wrong. i worry because every city management expert and i'm also member of the national anti races network and it really yet to have you and angela. welcome. please introduce yourself to audience. good evening. hello. my name is angela book out to our finance journalist london. and i write about issues concerning race, diversity, and politics, vendor, social issues. and it's been some days now. it's almost 2 weeks now since alaska
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was murdered. is this story for italian, still resonating our tie and still speaking about it, because that means that something different may well be happening here. i have a feeling that people are in italy. my still be speaking about this, but i'm not entirely sure of the conversation. these are the right direction we've seen before. what you've heard that many are seen be says related this brutal murder, something that is not, is not connected to racism or is not racially motivated. and also i think that part of the issue might be that people might think that might start thinking about this because up and so close to the election while the story of the mothers of yes ma'am, it is a long i'm just looking at you she right now kwanza liam is, is watching,
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and he said, asking for money on the street is not justification for violence and murder, italian state and police must recognize the matter as racist, and symptomatic or structural violence. but so far they haven't been very quick to say this is not racism cancer, you start and then a jello. could you pick up? yeah, i mean it's already from good magic that the police 1st thing 1st excluded for the motive of racism, even before looking at all the evidences and stuff and actually to prepare the trial. so this is already eloquent to say that there is definitely a racist phobia. we can say absolutely no racial element. kwanzaa is what the lawyer to the exactly and you said they say yeah, yeah, no, no, no racial on that. we can. yes. so from then weekend already said that there is
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definitely a phobia in admitting the problem of racism here. yeah. until it have you seen that the idea that it's not racism, it's individual crimes. absolutely. i think, you know, it is one of the watching the police are talking, the police conduct an investigation, talking about it. i was shocked to see her to sit and say we can categorically exclude racism. because this could have happened to anyone. and this will reflect the approach we had in italy, bye in europe about race. first of all, we can not say the word race. people are always horrified because they think about the biological part to why we talk about the socio cultural and parts of race. but also the fact that is always a one off people in italy are not racist. they may be ignorant. racism doesn't exist, is in the u. k. in the u. s. over that is the denial structural racism as
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a systemic factors that define our society. and this is one of the main obstacle we have as color says, academics as rocky to these people don't want to face it. and so how can we be auntie races if we dont dallas is a huge resident that looks like it likely to be anti racist and, and what it all data had? no, i was thinking, no, i was thinking i was following up on this like it could literally lay, but it does b r a war in italy. the racism can be mention, racism doesn't exist also in the media because we have a responsibility on mainstream media for the fact that in after the mother of the whole show, many media gave a lot of reference to what the mother in question said. the fact that we said that and i think it was bothering a partner, but he said it was asking for money. and he was given some space to the mother to
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do a version of a mother and not enough space to the family. a family of a leak, i think the style so much dignity for people of color is not is not something that's really it, but that's where the focus was a focus on in italy at all. and best of those, everything speaks volumes because from that we can see how the song narrative is shaped before, during and after the election and just look at i am so sorry. yeah, i've been there to the, to the 3 and it's literally broadway like time square. so it's really something happening in a big street. it's the main shop, a bit of the city and people were just staring at it, or even just passing by a so again, racism is not about the individual that went there and said, you know,
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and word whatever. it's about the whole system that contributed to the death of men and is, is what's shocking. little less talking about the media. i think what angela was saying, you know, i think it's important, the media, the language, he, we didn't have a name. he was defined as then a jury on the street, bender, the migrant. so every time people are denied their humanity and individuality in favor of their city or what they do. so just because it may be different name and name, difficult to pronounce. well, we don't even give the dignity the respect to name improperly. so i was founding the media language also very violent and not only the narrative the were portraying, but also these lack of humanity towards this person who has been killed in broad daylight. this one. so was saying, and nobody intervened and still is then i g,
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ryan, let me add another voice i conversation. this is a cli ala about dolly. this is what she taught us a little bit earlier to help us understand racism in italy. i like most of but italian population express, so rude and blame for the mother of alika to this feelings are very common among seeking sense dressed and even the moon ghost politicians speculate. and ras is been consensus. i believe that as long as this monitor is cru, see the red, i mean to be dual enact sectional act of races and not as the sign of a system miss t been screaming nation the course of their new election will not change. and somehow we will be complete i think it's really important to say
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that i cause death. a murder was not an individual instance. there. were they many instances of people of color being killed, harassed, assaulted in italy, those on and on and on and on. so let's take a broader look. i want to go back to somebody that really stopped me in my tracks. my site, which was 2020 in rome, which is a black lives matter rally. have a look at this is extraordinary. it's also a moment of silence. you're not going to hear much, but you at the in to see i don't really need to show it to you guess. but for our audience, just to remember that there was a moment where italy and some people in italy realized that they had their own issues with racism. when you look at that, i'm delicate again. these images. what does it tell you about italy? growth, the ability to bounty, discuss, and talk about racism openly. well, you know, families interesting because i was there, it was
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a milan there during these demos and what i, i have very mixed feelings because on the one hand people, people of color, black people have been doing active fights against racism for decades. so was not the death of george floyd that told us that was received them back for white italian. those who were trigon said, as anti racist. well, it was frustrating to see what they call this performative anti racism source. so many people went in the streets. we just finished a lockdown. we were in the middle of a pandemic all vitale. it was in the streets, protesting for the death of george floyd. but we, as you mentioned, we had so many black men and women killed by re season. look now alika, how many people did go in the streets and protest besides us. there were many people who went there once i was among them and according i'm into an accident at easter, but where the others. and so this is frustrating. i think you need to live until
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the white on to racist morgan and is problematic because they don't recognize white privilege. for example, when you mention these words, they say this doesn't apply to us because this is in the us. we cannot talk about trees, we don't, we don't talk about pre minutes. how are we privileged as italians? i've been struggling for centuries. we were immigrants too. and you see, this is the difficulty in let people understand that whiteness has been historically protected and maintain, even if you're poor, even sure, discriminated for other reasons. alika was not just a black man, he was also a poor man. so the class component here is essential and is something people the one face the police were saying they were saying it could have happened to any one, but how many wife italian are in the streets asking for a coin. i don't see many. so being italian beings be a white one. so would you say it's that the issue that you will not viewed as being
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a cali and if you're not white? absolutely. we see that how why to tommy and confuse class with ray. and so wasn't really go with it perfectly right. there is a lot of white italians in the races, historical anti races, organizations that say no, i'm not. i'm not privilege because why? because they grew up in the project. but that, that is some thing that appeal to class in general. so they substitute class, which race very often and they don't understand that that race and class are 2 different elements that can coexist or course can be intertwined, but, but they can also act separately. and so it's very difficult for italian and them, and we've seen that also with by lieutenant, for example,
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that when he was calling he was praised as you know. busy callian back soccer blair . and then when he couldn't or, or when he was behaving, you know, like her normal young there then goes to the club and some noise. this is no longer a italian, he was just a black man or even the n word was used to saying there is no such thing as like italian. you cannot the, i mean if you're black. so we still have this problem. then even more emphasized by the italian citizenship law, dec at it then goes 3 lead by blood, and therefore by race. of course, it doesn't say that black cannot be an but it said that to be italian, you have to prove to have italian blood. and so of course, it's more difficult for a black person to have italian blood rather than a white person. there may be mixed race like myself or things like that. so i have
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to let the line is very plain. i hate, i hate exactly what you're saying. let me just bring in a new voice into our conversation. this is marco at tony's. he spoke to us a few hours ago and you haven't listened to marco. and then i love your reaction to what he tells us because he has a problem with race. i think the terms that were used in the public schools mainly because he was misused. he wasn't used successfully during fascism. grace does not exist in the bible language, and also racism does not exist. so here lies the problem, i think in the, in italy there has never been an open public conversation about the role of race in the formation of the italian nation. so what to do, i think changing this case is a 2 way process. on the one hand, i think it should be a movement of protest by ordinary citizen, demanding justice in public rights for black people and migrate more broadly. and on the other hand, as a political reform which can deliver on these demands,
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but frankly, the president political contest, i don't see either of them happening i'm going through some some very while opposed to be honest to think like a conversation about some of this is about race and racism. i'm not, i'm not present at all. i think the so, so as to the fact that there's no, there's not enough voices of color black voices in the. i mean, there are, of course, i mean, we can see by the love the voice, it will be invited. there wouldn't be in the television, a partner with a if people like me, angelica while as a whole many others, well the, these wouldn't be, will be the people invited to talk about it. so will be our wide conversation about racism. it will be any and nothing mrs. park, this is the central part of the issue also because we as, as also not to do with that diversity,
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seen as something necessarily new in italy while we have other communities of b, very tree and italian community. somali, telling community for being present in the country for decades. but obviously the sole source connection with the through colonialism at least from the mentally. it feeds into the cries of fascism require more over time. all the talent colonialism or something, but it's still not present and not the stuff to have dark history come in. there were always sold on conversation, but there's been choices just to rush everything down the carpet from them. we have to talk about politics and political climate because we are just a month away. p chat. before i snap election. we did a little bit of getting around to see what politicians were saying about a leakage death and also about immigration and migration. have a look here,
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i picked out some, some thoughts and some, some tweets for gay mattie as harvey is the lead of the far right lou. this is why he treated italians or the lease races people in the world. someone on the left instead decided to exploit that poor man massacred. one thought there another, that's enough. we can't take it any more cities out of control. illegal immigrants who land every day and more, more violence in the streets. but for the left, the problem is the right one was i, i feel like you know, where i'm going to, it is time to reverse the course and restored dignity to italy by defending it's borders. this is all on the lead up to an election that's happening in mid september. angelic her. what does that tell us about the way politicians are thinking about people of color, immigration migrants who are in italy right now? well, you know, really confirm once more how our bodies are exploited by the political discourse in 2018 when a leg but leg. my mental sylvania morgan into 2 was still
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a one. and let's remember for the 1st time in europe, italy had to popularly sparked in power well leg, especially. they base their electra campaign on anti black and to immigrant on to refugees discourse and the citizenship law. blog water angela was mentioning earlier as been as strategically use and it was a winning weapon. and so again, you see that he is always the condemnation of the act, that poor man, without technology, as we said, that he was black. that he was a refugee, that he was poor, that it was disabled. so all of these is brushed off to just and not to talk about race. and we can see how yes, ga maloney. now we have a woman seen as something a progressive. but what kind of ideas she has, what kind of part is she represents is a far right party. that is that direct heritage of the posse,
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spotty. so these are the people who are about to quebec. many chances to leave our country and is frankly warring. i want to bring in more it's yeah, that can go to guy. i think a fest again. yeah, i mean, you see, you see always why people made the politicians in italy are basically all white, 99 percent are white, and so they keep on sometimes roving themselves, the people i'm talking about races them, but they're not direct address seen of the problem and so they constantly evolving themselves even the policeman was doing the same because they all belong to the same system, all white supremacy and institutions. and another big problem that also below on the week and on the bagley party. that is the central problem for me is that migration is always treated and sold as an emergency,
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whereas is one of the most ancient phenomenon of human b. yeah, and it's always revise and the right ones were really a really good at migration. they migrated over a year and much of europe as well. okay. and let me get back to adding one more voice to our conversation. this is maria totality. who was really, really moved by what happened to alley car just a few days ago. this is what he told us as a black reader, mentally, i'm particularly devastated and impacted by the sudden, violent death of alika sanchez, the latest of a series of murderous crimes against black people in italy. but these isn't evidence of showing that black people in italy are not safe in these countries like people are not safe, especially if the issue lose hold on just one off race was also the one of poverty or the one of disability. so i think that the next few months of campaigning are going to be fundamental for especially the progressive parties to promote an agenda
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is also about the fact. the black lice matters in this country and we won't be bullied on the offer. phobia promoted by the now are see for the far right our audience watching on you should thank you for your comments and your questions. have a number of questions for you. guess they are instant art says so one sentence answer so we can get to as many as possible. this one for napoleon, we need harsh punishment for races. kwanza thoughts, immediate thoughts. that's for sure. we don't have a lot that they racism as a criminal offense itself. we only have the aggravating. i at a so while that will happen in the next year or so. is it imminent or still? what to be done? oh, it's not even been discussed yet. ah. okay. all right. never saw it here. this is from brad. what initiatives can be taken to make coach or assimilation easier on
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both sides? angelica well, i'm not sure i will talk about cultural assimilation because a simulation is a very problematic award. i think that that is this idea that black people, people of color are new in this country is, was angela was sent earlier and we are defined often, 2nd generation. so we're also fed up above beast because we're not 2nd or 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th generation suite time to recognize that italy is not a white country. and there is a lot of mixing in this country. i want to leave you with the voice of charity or yakking. she is the wife of alika. this is what she's hoping will happen with her husband's case manager just is from i was wondering, i just thought i wanted and it justice was just almost it been. it's too much. is too much for me. i don't. when francesca montela, who has
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a leak his lawyer got in touch with us early on today, this is what he told us. we are waiting for psychiatric report. the killer, we don't believe has a mental illness. the killing was deliberate. what we're looking for is justice, not revenge. thank you. angelica kwanzaa, angelo for shining light on how difficult it is for italy to talk about racism. you prove the opposite right now on the stream. we thank you for your thoughts and for your participation. i'll see you next time. take everybody ah thousands of migrants set out from the city of dublin schuler in the early hours of monday. there's numerous nationalities among them, but the vast majority are from venezuela. 0, one to reach the united states. it's already been a long and difficult journey for most. there are many of us migrants here. we need
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