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structures absorbed much of the impact from the blast in 2020. they killed more than 200 people. the government had ordered, they be demolished by the operation was put on hold. alright, those are the headlines. i'm emily anglin. denise continues here on al jazeera, after inside story, to stay with us. when the shows came from the holiday and we heard cracks, we heard some noise. this was newness. microwave is on in the most dangerous intersections and it didn't come in through the front entrance that was, will happen to the people from the shop. they came into the wrong entrance, the nightly pyrotechnics funny to him to income should it's good mail out of you. san diego holiday inn hotels on al jazeera it's being called britain's summer of strikes. tens of thousands of workers across different sectors have walked off the job. they want better pay and conditions to combat
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record high inflation will businesses and government leaders meet their demands. this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. workers in the u. k. have launch some of them most disruptive industrial action in years with living costs hitting a 40 year high. they want more pay and better conditions. tens of thousands of transport staff postal employees and even lawyers have walked off the job. and for the 1st time and 30 years duck work has also went on strike at britain's largest container. port trade unions accused business leaders of putting prophets ahead of workers that the government says union bosses are holding the country to ransom.
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we're bringing our guests in just a moment. first, harry force it has more from felix to port in the east of england. the world's largest container ship at britain's largest container port the ever a lot arrived on thursday and normally would be long gone by now. but strike action by felix. those 900100 dock workers has stopped operations. the unite union says a recently increased offer of a 7 percent pay rise doesn't keep pace with spiraling inflation. it's seeking a double digit raise that it says would share surging corporate profits. $71000000.00 at last count more equitably with the workers. now unfortunately, we've yet to be given an offer, which we think we can take back and which reflects member that bryson and talking to members today in which we're in a position that there is you can see we've, we've had that message sent back to us loud and clear felix to port says it was reminded in recent days by the bank of england of the inflation re effects of big
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pay rises. the port company accuses the union of using the workers international struggle on average for our case. this is next, or 3 and a half 1000 pounds in cash to them each year. the action that they're taking now that united is making them take, not having to put this offer to our workers, but the action that united making them take is actually going to take the best part of a 1000 pounds out of their pocket. the question is, how far the effects of this shut down will ripple through the u. k. economy. the port says the effects will be manageable, pointing to the lessons learned during the supply chain. disruption of the pandemic . suddenly, the ever a lot isn't going anywhere anytime soon. in some industry analysis suggest other container ship as are already offloading the cargo in europe. instead of the u. k. the union accepts there will be major disruption and says that it could carry out further strikes as it seeks. what it says is a fair deal up the road in ipswich, adams scott's printing and embroidery business relies on imported materials,
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textiles, inc, and vinyl. he supports the right to strike, but is worried about further shocks to a supply chain that's already stretched, and only getting costlier historically, where we'd have maybe to price wise's job to 3 percent, something like that. we're now looking at 8 to 10 percent price rises monthly from our suppliers, so it's not like a challenging environment for us over the last. so yeah, this sunday's cargo it felix though was restricted to day trippers. all sides are settling in for a long wait for this dispute to be resolved, and it's just one among many, a long summer of industrial action and economic uncertainty isn't yet over. harry force it, i'll jazeera felix on the nation wide strikes, have brought parts of britain's rail network to a standstill and cause days of disruptions. only one in 5 trains were running on thursday and saturday. london's underground transport has been hit by for 24 hour war counts. this year has had a knock on effect on other services where there weren't any strikes,
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including the eurostar, criminal lawyers and rubbish collectors also stopped working. it's not just the public sector, private companies also being affected. sarvard telecoms giant bt stopped work for 4 days at the end of july for the 1st time, and 35 years. amazon warehouse staff have also staged walk outs. and some proposed strikes have been halted after pay deals were agreed. these include some by british airways, ground staff, and plain refueling at london heathrow airport. but other work as a holding firm, hostile staff plan action later this month. and teachers and health workers have hinted at possible war counts. if they don't get pay deals, they consider acceptable. ah, let's bring in our guests at this point and oliver, all of them are joining us from london. we have stephen cotton, he's the general secretary of the international transport workers federation. push been thing is an economist at the center for economic and business research. and
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jobs. cunningham is the founder of the public relations agency. trafalgar strategy, and former head of press at the u. k prime minister's office from 2015 to 16, a very warm welcome to all of you stephen. let's start by just discussing why all these strikes are happening right now. thanks for i think we've got an extraordinary situation. i think you mentioned in the presentation transport workers wherever they fit, right. all workers, truck drivers who did their part for the kind of the period and now with normal levels of inflation not seen for 40 years. and frankly, people are extremely worried about making their. ready and their commitments at a time when is clearly a void of leadership in the politics in the u. k. and now ready solution. so all of the cases you mention are actually strikes voted on by the workers themselves. so i think the message to a global audience is, workers of had enough,
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i did their power for it, and now they recognized extreme increase in cost off the scale. and they're asking for adjustment fair and equitable solution question. do you agree with that, that workers, that people, the society at large is facing stream rising cost and that this is an unworkable situation if it continues as it is for sure. like i mentioned before, inflation is almost at a definite 40 year high and is spiraling out of control. i think the most recent data on earnings as well shows real pe, decreasing by 3 percent compared to quote, the last is quarter to and get between inflation and earnings have never been higher since record started 2 decades ago. so definitely a lot of it is firing up by running out of control and a lot must be done to help households actually manage the bills and actually survive this cost of that because that's where is the government in all of this,
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there is a gap that people work as a feeling that they use strikes as last resort and try to negotiate. they feel that guessing anywhere. why not just living streets, unprecedented just governor of precedents in the package of intervention during the quarter paid out money and trying to get the economy back on its feet. now i have been hit by these fuel by the war ukraine, which is always been a rock and a hard place. we're going to have to pay for this at some point and everybody across the board. if they do, you are giving to the tomorrow, then you're going to have more time down the guy across the board. you know, and it's not just public sector workers, people facing these challenges as well. you know, the reason to coin a phrase, imagine that conscious keep failing. everyone. put
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a turn out that going to put out a $400.00 pounds package for households hit by the rising cost of energy. so number of one of payments with different prices. so it's very, i mean, they saw, i think the most common sense is property with a lot of people can see, you know, we've been going to be very difficult, difficult time. so there is pain coming out. of course, if we have this almost unprecedented situation where it talks about criminal teachers on the public sectors walking out in the pilot and who are a huge principal dangerous false government. because at some point, our suspect the public patience will run out, or you raise a number of different points that i want to pick up on one of them. stephen, just saying public sentiment is with the government at the moment. do you agree
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with that? would you believe that you've got the support of the general public? i think it would probably move in different circles if on frank reality is most people are very, very concerned about meeting their bills. so the public sentiment certainly from our experience of our affiliates, you know, i r m t as left. so there's a rail and, and the felix strike is that there's a lot of solidarity and you know, a felix. ready there's been one of the successful polls. the 1st strike in 30 years probably says the whole, there's been a very responsible approach to industrial action. and the reality is we, you know, the ideological comment. also, let me pick you up is given to this, i think the reality is people see so much wealth accumulated in the top elements of our society. and we've heard all of these companies taking share dividends. these are extreme sets of circumstances. the cost of living is 40 year high. we need to
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look at this in a different way. workers collaborate throughout the pandemic to keep those that are in the global supply chain to keep the world moving. we think and we believe that the transfer workers in today's world should be shown the same level of respect in a moment of crisis. we should be looking at how do we come up with economic fiscal approach to help distribute the well, if you can or take so much money out people's pockets per month and not expect to. ready reaction, so for us all the feedback, we have all the chat rooms that we're party to have a look on twitter. there is a very strong sense of injustice for people who feel that the money is being taken in their pocket and they don't have any control on the situation. but then what do you think of that? do you agree that there is enough money to go around that there is enough money to come that this situation in the u. k right now, but it just concentrated in the wrong places?
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i think definitely it's gonna text a lot on the government finance treasury as mentioned before, a lot of spending the sun during the career to help a lot of work as a key worker and off workers we distressed in court to get to those guys properly and so finally i had them in support and what now we have basically, i'm present the inflationary environment where more spending needs to be done. but it definitely is going to tax the treasury a lot and it is, or if there's going to be handouts or tax cuts either way, it has to be financed by more boring, which already put street. so is there a lot of money going on? frankly, not really, but a lot of cost effective. and a lot of smart ways has to be thought of by the next come in terms of how this is going to be probably promulgated and implemented to cope also. does some, some would say that the conservatives are not offering a solution on the number of reasons why people say the concept is not offering solutions, not least of at the nuclear leadership. and then we'll get on to that in just a moment. but another reason perhaps,
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is that vast public spending is simply not in the tory dna. and therefore, as the conservatives find it very difficult to propose more money to be offered to people. well, i mean, you're right, they load trucks and a lot less intervention company. you've made intervention governments in recent history ration to car. they've been to be transferred to parts processed by georgia. fundamentally, what we do is trust premise ship by oregon, a winful tax against the big oil companies. i think in the, in the long term it just damages the investment environment puts, coming here. what we need is a low tax environment where we are track businesses. but also we have the smallest energy sources about about to be energy. companies have been our
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costs energy as well, but i mean, come back, we're 24. thanks a lot of public spending. this is the problem. there isn't unprecedented types of cash and the reserves and government, a huge change level which have high rates of interest. and we just storing more pain the long term there is no solution to this. and this is something which is not just unique to something which is contain, comes across here. i mean, i think one thing which has become apartments has been too much reliance on russia for energy and our paying the price for. joe says that the has been intervention on the energy prices, and yet they are still rising on. they are in this tool set to rise this wind. so they've gone up from $1200.00, on average last year to $3400.00 pounds. that's a huge rise for most people. why are they not?
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why can it not happen that the energy companies themselves a force to charge less the proper caps are put on prices? you can do that. there's no just no see how in terms of what can be done, what can be done? the for problem with that is putting a cap of prices to protect households. yes, it would definitely in, in terms of alleviating the cost of households and especially low income households will definitely protect them from paying the extra needed extra incentives needed. right. it's supposed to happen october and in january as well, where we can see the price increasing to a $5000.00 pounds. i think the most recently went to my 6000 and when i saw today, but putting the price get also this towards putting a cap on the price can itself actually distort price signals by because by doing so, in the sense call households and consumers won't be kind of very about how much the energy bill was increasing and with the same regular use that they're doing it now
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doing as of now. and without seeing kind of change prices due to the cap. it distorts a lot of signals and adds a lot of actuation when i look at a lot of not going to fix that economy. so that has a very dangerous effect going forward as well. so putting the cap is not exactly feasible. ok, and stevens, i would say that the strikes have not gone affects the economy as well. the critics would say that they cause a wage price spiral, of course, were rising wages would feed into this cycle of inflation. i think as we've seen in the past industrial relations before cove, it on many occasions as a founder solution that's been satisfactory by for. ready private companies and for the government situation we have at the moment is a feeling that people are actually losing that purchasing power at the same time of math. now i think it's human nature is such that i think,
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particularly in the u. k. a sense of what fair and there's a feeling at the moment that there are still large dividends coming out of work to stay and assets, including some of the energy companies, are making enormous amounts of money for people that are not able to put it back. and therefore, the majority of the study is the number of studies, citibank perceives that we could be as high as i think it's 14 percent. that are 12.2 percent by the end of the year by 18 point c. by january 2023. with these numbers coming out, the workers feel they have no choice but to stop. and as we've said, you've got very strong labels that require very big process of getting majority to, to win the right to strike. what we're seeing. ready is meant support for the strikes from the workers. and i would argue from, from the society is a large because i think, you know, and if we look at the situation p and i,
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ferries, where so many workers are stacked and call such out, right? there's a feeling that big business can do what it likes and the government is kind of colluding with the process. so for working men and women, the opportunity to withdraw their labor is frankly the last stand. and we would actively through this process not discourage business from covington k, but also be in a position to encourage people back to the table. everybody wants security in their jobs for to pay the bills and then be in a position to go to work and give a, give a, give a performance. i think if we just touch on the rail strike, that feels very heavily, politically motivated. and it's harm fire strategy that's been advocated by the transport minister is aggravating the situation. we were dealing with just cost issues. and a recognition that we've got an unprecedented post coven situation, a 40 year following costs. let's get back to negotiating a let's find a solution,
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of course, and, you know, when the bank of england comes out and says, well, because shouldn't ask for piracy, i think that doesn't reflect reality men or women in the u. k. and not just the guy is joel said the rising cost is, is extremely high, but the u. k, as one of the free is markets. and we have no caps or caps be withdrawn or running out. we're seeing a moment where people are very scared and you know, let's just look at the issue of barrister's criminal barrister's. they are not the worst paid workers in the world, even they are coming destroyed. so i think we need to how we deal with this. we need to find a constructive way to negotiate. we would encourage employers, government to sit down, recognize that this is an unprecedented moment, that solutions and confidence in workers and the businesses they work for is vital . ok and not get that let right. let's just let just pick up that stephen thing
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people are scared. this is an unprecedented moment. does with the government and all this was the leadership? i think boris johnson, the prime minister on his 2nd holiday of the summer, he seems to have signed off and just passed on all of this to whoever takes over. that's not happening until september. the 5th. it's been a lot of damage, potentially done between now and then, but not seeing any policies announced by the to prospective candidates. do you feel that there is a, would you agree? there is a lack of leadership? i mean, you're why there is a concert. sorry, sample problem for us johnston because he's going to be out of town and to me and it's not more responsible be taking decisions rich. that's a sense of trying to defer things, but sure. we've got a situation where you can start moving at breakneck speed and it is a danger work. now, let's work on the assumption that they're supposed are going to have this trust premise or something that she's going to need to get to grips very quickly. because
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if they start spreading out a lot more, i mean we use the sort of standard underground route right often, i mean, as it starts, if it does stop spreading out, then you may see public patience. the public patience event is going to be in a row because whatever the rights and wrongs in the situation, people will, at that point, i think it stopped by the government. they're going to need to find a call with some current solution or some kind of way to break the deadlock are things they start with the strikes of compliance that route that people are really damaged because structure and stuff like that. they just have the potential to be very different and suddenly prospected during my my alarm. so i think
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relation to the right people. so say well, you're just going to excel it right. the maintenance was more to mention drivers trains on people from german cove. it so they so say i can take one off, strikes, spread becomes incredibly problematic. backdrops u. k. that's like it's heading into recession. cost in crisis could be the project stall for the new prime minister and big labor part. absolutely push been what sort of solution do you think england breton needs definitely a lot more targeted solutions in terms of what can be done and what can be released alleviate. the cost of the price is what, what was said for about the perfect stomach, stephanie of perfect description, what is happening to the u. k. right now, in terms of external factors, concern is supply side shops, including the war and ukraine. you've got rising energy prices previously in an
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initially due to kind of suppress supply and now do again to energy convert inflation and to study could cost you requested to so, and that was all of this. i'm down to next, we can see 2 to 2 figures. we saw 11 to some compression, and it's very likely that you went to reception. and i think you should be helping houses. and we'll income as especially low income households that are trying to deal with this whole idea, this whole thing on the downtown, a long story prices. and definitely, i know there's a lot of things coming into play right now in terms of how you had to focus on helping help. well, at the same time, once more managing the, what i was trying to do as part of the primary locations. i love to handle to be quiet, and a lot of effective and time, you know, just have to be, are required as well. but clearly that's not the case right now,
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given the whole idea of a vacuum and we still have yet to see who has yet to come into the hot c o 2 weeks . but yeah, absolutely. i mean that, that will be a big point as well. is steven just lastly, what happens if the strikes don't bring about the pay rises that work? is that demanding? well, i think there's a feeling certainly across all sectors in the u. k. lab. and that cooperation and collaboration about what the, the message is and what the challenge is also i think we're going to see more challenges when it comes. ready workers voting for strike action until we start to see some constructive settlements. these issues about and of course the rail strike gets the biggest profile, but there's a lot in that package. it's not just money, it's about changing the way ran industry works. i think we need to get people back into into moving and transport is critic. i think the situation which we've seen is
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we're in the private sector. lots of lots of really big returns in the container markets in the supply chain. let's not forget supply chains driven more. and if she don't, if people money to spend, and they're worried about one their jobs and meeting their bills, how are we going to join the economies? we perceive that they will be a recession and will get money to drive out of that. so i think unions, workers, i certainly feel and let's be clear, this rail strike is far from over. there is a solidarity across different categories of workers. i know that i'm president, we're going to have to leave a message or a and many thanks for joining us to all of our guests today. steven cause and push been thing and giles cunningham, and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again. any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com and have our discussion digital facebook page,
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