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allies continue to show their support. but tip toe around recognizing taiwan as a country have questions. of course you do during the discussion live on youtube to talk to our panel of taiwanese gas. ah, so let's start with a look at how the contentious relationship between taiwan and china began after the chinese nationalist last china civil war. in 1949, the nationalist k m. t party fled to taiwan where they imposed martial law for 38 years. martial law was lifted in 1987 and then the islands, 1st direct democratic presidential elections were held in 1996. in 2016 taiwan elected its 1st female president, sy, in when johnny asked to talk about what's next with taiwan, bryan, hugh, freddie lam awaiting yet. so good to have you. thank you for joining us,

brian. please tell our audience what you day i. my name is brian hugh, i'm a journalist and i'm in the founding edder's of. ready magazine which covers social issues in taiwan and politics were found in 2014 offer these on formed. so good to have you. freddy, want to people know you as and for doing. i'm freddy lame, a member of taiwanese parliament and know so have you. mendelson are nice to have your weights hang so lovely to have you. thank you for joining us. lisa la audience, what you're known for, what you do. hello everyone. my name is waiting again. i'm currently an assistant professor at the government department of franklin marshall college and pennsylvania, united states. and i study asian politic good to have you. i am wondering guess when a well known personality or a leader of a country visits taiwan. how much trouble does that cause, bryan? so trumpet reaction this i was quite strong. there happened diplomatic visits in

the past by other leaders, the government officials, et cetera. but this, i'm trying to really use this as a pretext to escalate. part of it's due to close, he being so highly ranked that she is in line for succession to the residency after the vice president. but i think in this case, trying to was looking for some way to ramp up the entrance and took advantage of this visit. so waiting you were in taiwan when nancy pelosi, the u. s. speaker of the house visited taiwan. there was so much lead up to that, but from the inside, what was the experience like i had to say it was like, you live in the parallel world like so. i think the week leading up to pillows is that i think the policy circle in d. c. was old fighting over whether it's a force tower street crisis. where as and i one, i think people have him be living under the threat of china lift kind of as, as well and lived there a life very normal. and i,

so i was very surprised to learn how much tension it has the rigor between the u. s . him, china over the pillows of. all right, so level of tension outside of the country on a scale of one to 10 was what would you say waiting for nancy pelosi visit? what would you say with a 10 outside my time in or on my twitter birth? i would say 8 to 10. all right, but anti wine, it was probably one. no, that is extraordinary. all right, freddy, you've got to come in here. i'm looking at your twitter feed. people not to come visit you. not just taiwan, but oh say come visit. you'd say this is representative, jennifer wex then she popped in to see you in june and then we have it and it's freedom. huge. thanks to impassive taiwan and members of the time when he's parliament for having me, we had some delicious, taiwanese food, et cetera, et cetera. so you, no stranger to hosting guessed to tie one. what i mean? is it performative? is it symbolic? how does it help?

i think because i think how many people can feel that no matter is in terms of epidemic prevention or regional security or the value of democracy and human rights . i think people in taiwan feel we play a very important role or more and more important role in, in this region these in the pacific region. so therefore, exchanges between democratic countries are activist or democratic police. politicians and taiwan should be normal and positive. should be encouraged, so because there is no way that we play more and more important role. but if the people outside of taiwan one could get engaged, we need to be approved by china. that's. it makes no sense and it's not right. so i think nancy pelosi, she got a huge, well come in taiwan because at, for time one is we, we want to country be,

can contribute more and we want to play more important role in the region. we can take this responsibility but also the world need to support us because when we play more important role. busy we've got even heavier threats from china, so we need to stick together in the democratic low waiting. i see you nodding and brian, i see you nodding as well. so you welcome visitors, but that there's an impact. i'm just looking here on twitter, the ministry of defense, r o c, just keeping track of the number of incursions in taiwan territory from china. and these go on for radically from day to day to day of it. it was these incursions from china waiting so i agree with what brian freddie said. so think the passage retiring travel act like in 2018. we have seeing, you know, several many delegations come into visit and ready for the mission. we asked how

a nice, well welcome to make friends with all other nations and engage with each other, you know, through more cooperation and collaboration. and so i think right, correct and pointing out that i think china use this as an excuse as a pretext to chide to change the status call. 7 by, you know, starting or engaging with more military drills. yeah. and that is, and i don't think how many people will be deter by this because we can not just not making friends because the bully said you shouldn't make friends. and we don't make friends that the that doesn't work. what? yeah. what i want you to 1st find a 2nd. yeah. i mean, i think for example, just the fact that there's all this fear about the drills or effects of the large gap between perceptions in taiwan and outside of it. i mean,

people in taiwan would be a 1st in line of fire, but on the congress to what much of the reaction international law was. people logged in how well, i mean, there was support people got at the airport to welcome close the, the hotel that she was staying and so forth. and as you know, the world was going on about how this is pedro mania, how this will lead to military threats. with that actually that's in the face of these trends. it's tony people, but somehow their perspectives were left out of the conversation. a conversation with had about the risks, but who are at risk is actually that, how many people? and i think that the reaction says visits are very different than between how many people and what much international discourse was about. i guess i'm afraid i often hear a sorry for the 1st i guess ask if i i think the. busy busy speaker knows some i saw does some international media or some people said nancy pelosi world, the chinese military exercises, or the taiwanese, we broad we, we brought us to the big crisis or these,

these threats from china. we brought in to face these kind of threats. i want to emphasize that actually actually we have been facing these for decades. china is very to pin do in the always like that. not just because of nancy pelosi visiting or because of what we have been doing. so we have 2 people have to understand that we have been. busy faith in these for decades, china always want to find excuses to, to, to bring higher threats on these region. not as much as threatened to. busy and in taiwan, but also or the country in this region that's, that's the, the, like the normal life we are dealing here in this region. you know, get the phrase i often have from, within. i want to a status quad, preserving the status quo waiting. can you explain to our audience what status quo

the taiwan means? so i think we can discussion, discuss this question from true perspective. one is, you know, tony's identity and the 2nd one is how in relation with china? so i was like that the t, i think the majority of tiny people now identify themselves, you know, nice. but when it comes to deciding what the relationship with china should be here, there are some debate going on when some people think that how it's already a defective sovereignty country. why as others, there are other people and how i think that we should also pursue your independence but decide that their friends, i think the majority of people are pragmatic and do accept the status quo. which is that i want is that this fact though, sovereignty state, and that's kind of what the status quo. however, the tricky part is that the status quo is self is changing as well. and how long it,

every man and how it changes actually depends. china, the level of aggression the allot in the future. basically the more aggression imposed by one of the status quote. change more toward independence. let me just bring in just a quick thought here from preston. sy, when, because she mentioned status quo. so i'm going to play that and then brian, can you just pick up from the thought that she's playing out here is have, listen, this is from earlier this month. oh man, we are in close cooperation with international allies to monitor the military situation. at the same time, we're doing everything we can to let the world know that taiwan is determined to safeguard stability and the status quo across the taiwan strait ocean crescent sighing. when using that phrase, status quo again, brian. yeah, absolutely. and i think the debates high is very emphatic on this point, that she is not the one that seeking to change the state of,

of crosby relations tie as berkeley intent on avoiding being labeled as provocateur in the relation with china. and china. in the meantime, tries of frames i want as a troublemaker, but as a form of victim planning, the threats are offered coming from china. but typically what also one sees with some of the off example differences between that discourse in taiwan and outside of it. i alluded to earlier, is as victim lightning this view of taiwan as having brought this on itself risking the region or to maintain itself a one does also see this argument that one sees circulated now and introduced course that talent does give up its freedom to miss the weight reserve piece, and unfortunately, i don't think that's the case, but this gets brought up with regard. suppose even then how is discussed in this very hyperbolic tone as though it's the end of the world that we're on the verge of war. but as long as i can imagine we're, we're in taiwan, people seem relatively chill about it. and that's how things were let me bring in a newsletter. this is a voice of from the chan friday. i'm going to play this for you, because what for me, jen told us earlier was about appreciating allies, but the allies need to step up. they can't just be allies from

a distance. because if the status quo is changing, angie ne, joel elias, to call on what might happen. this is what he told us area. the political economy systems in taiwan over a differ from china. it is a consensus in taiwan that people want to preserve the ways of life's democracy, freedom in the events economy. however, china's annexation is salumi because it is a sacred mission for them to unified ty, while therefore taiwan scour man is trying to strengthen the self defense capability for the us is very important because research shows that the height of, of it reassure people from panel countries it is also very important for the u as in ice to provide more economic and military resources to deter china from changing the status quo of freight. i'm a little bit cynical about these visitors coming to taiwan,

who calling themselves that you are allies. but if china does more than just fly over the taiwanese strike, what will your allies be dealing? i think 1st of all, i think for now i think the allies should show their attitude that they are they are very supportive of tie one day state, which i think that's very important. especially after the rush of invasion to ukraine, that we can send the wrong message to china. we need to lead china. know that if anything happened here, the allies, well, well, stand with taiwan. that's meant we seize the international community, has remand at strategic and b, g o t for the situation in this region. and that my stand the wrong message to china. so it's very important to give china a more clear image mall,

clear message that the allies are stand with high want. and by sending the high ranking officials to taiwan to get engaged for tie one on the table to blame our friendship on the table to show taiwan to show to china. to know that there are friends of taiwan everywhere and friends with taiwan. that's very important. and i do believe that after the russian in, after the russia invasion to you train taiwan is people know that if we stand for a longer time, if we can fight as if we can protect our land as much as we can do in china is very high one, then i think the allies and our friends well with the porter, it's more will take to with those. i think that's a very strong message for i am wondering what it feels

like trying to live in a nation where huge powers on one side of the atlantic and then huge a huge power as your neighbor. talk about taiwan as if it's a poor me in a game of chess. what does that feel like? yeah, that is something that i find very concerning because that was also i think in regards to policy visit, how much rose discussed again, as i mentioned, there was not the focus on what tony's thought about their own future. there's a lot of talk about in terms of the u. s. and china and so forth. and so i think that does raise one of the questions. i mean the visit to was welcomed and i won, i think many international did not get that because of the fact that this is seen as a show of support. and taiwan is. ready really wanting support from the national community right now, but then the rest of the world is afraid it's advisable and there are some questions i think to be raised about, or the substitive gains from this symbolic or mostly just for show or if is actually thing taiwan gains from this kind of visit,

though it puts how in the line of fire up in that respect. i think that this is long term in the face of taiwan and i, i would hope to see that change about the weight. i wanted the stuff that's more attention to the way tony is want their future to be. i oftentimes, i knew to have this notion that tommy should give up their freedoms to observe peace, or that they should stop being making noises about the soft termination and that kind of thing. and that china will go away. but i think also what's important to notice is that china's live fire drills also off example targeted map that there is missiles and up in japan's exclusive economic zone. others also chinese, the lock to be directed at south korea vamp on the yellow sea and the boise and sweating this points to china's rather expensive aimed at the aggression towards mattress taiwan. that if taiwan is cedar over in some form, they will just be taiwan. i mean, tara china would still continue to be aggressive in the area. i think that's, that's very key to keep in mind. i'm just looking here on my laptop and it says a piece that you wrote brian for the guardian. it says, don't believe china's convenient historical tales. taiwan belongs to taiwanese.

earlier this month on biology was showed the bottom line. the us ambassador to china had this to say about the history of china and taiwan. and the relationship between taiwan and china have him listen to this. the question of taiwan fundamentally speaking, is not about to democracy or freedom is about china's national sovereignty and attire. terror integrity is about the national dignity of chinese people. the historical fact is that china has been pop, tiwana has been part of china, st ancient times. people need to understand history and knit to know the international law. ryan, how do you argue with a country that says it's

a historical fact that your nation is part of our nation? well, i think it's a vent district because the fact is the p r. c has never controlled taiwan. and china often claimed the claims about ancient history, but i don't know why we're then evaluate invalidating the current claims latanya people to talk termination based on age and history. the parent has never controlled taiwan. it is one of the force of them overthrew imperial china. and then it's founding these claims to taiwan or bases imperial trans history. but if you look at it, i only became a province in 1887, and then a mirror, 8 years later it was heated to the japanese. and so that's already the last imperial dynasty. it's not the case. that's how i was part of china, often time immortal. but then china will deploy these nationalists abstractions about long term or ancient history declaimed and taiwan. it just about with the part china. i think that 1st a b claims shouldn't matter in the face of contemporary and how many people think what their future should be. do they, i did fire chinese or not, and i think the answer is probably not. but then also in this history is also not

incorrect. is this incorrect? it's not true. and china continues to try to claim though, just in terms of ed's conversation with other peices of the world. ready. i think, i think, although the history that the embed sort of the chinese ambassador understand, i don't, i don't think it's right, but it's very important that that's the reason why the people in this region not just in taiwan, but in this region field china is so dangerous is a bad neighbor because we kind of ideology, china, i can also claim the korea is a part of china. mongolia is a part of china. again, i'm is a part of china, all of these region that have been invaded by china in that, in there thousands of e 3. are they, are there legal territory in that kind of, by the allergies. they are so dangerous in this region that's, that's the reason why we always emphasize that. we always tell the world that if we

lose taiwan, then they will have a next will not be the last one to, to be sacrificed to, to move. but they are always to be the next one because we that kind of chinese ideology. they. busy busy very in dangerous world in these region and all always the threats to the neighbors can i hear it? yeah. way to go ahead and more so the beginning the, the chinese and better to say it's not about democracy and not democracy. i think it absolutely has a lot to do with preserving democracy. i know it sounds like just a value thing that has only have symbolic meaning. but as a matter of fact, china is right now, one of the largest authoritarian country in the world. and in the past decade, they have been trying to ask for their authoritarianism through their building role initiative and with the rise of populism and the erosion of democracy everywhere in

the world, i think preserving democracy. what is it preserving preserver markers? it especially important. it's a very strong, you know, not only for talented people, but also, or basically people in democracy around the, from the globe. and as a matter of fact, one is the, the chinese, you can democracy right now in the world. i think it the ambassador thing that's not the point or the matter. i think it's because he doesn't believe democracy is functional is a couple waiting in the try to speak. we're waiting we, we have a split in our youtube audience who are watching right now. so diane mi brook says taiwan, 1st of all is not a country. that is a fact. so bryan and waiting, and freddy, you, you push back or not. marie says taiwan has a right to be free. they were an extra the king dining didn't queen dynasty the

skis, made the ching dynasty but was never colonized like japan. there was a debate that goes back and forth. i am wondering just from the psyche of people who live in taiwan waiting. you did have a wonderful example of that. when i said the level of anxiety outside of taiwan was 8. but inside of taiwan was one. what about the level of threat that you feel from your neighbor? where is that on that scale of one to 10? the idea that china is saying actually, taiwan belongs to us at some point. we want to take it. what's the level of anxiety there? ah, so i think how and no matter how people cold weather time is the country and that it is the it is a, it's a society that demographically elect, it's a. 7 top decision maker for the past more than 20 years. and it has

a democratic government. people have all the democratic rights. so regardless how other people calls, i want, it is a function mean our sovereignty state. and so on that level, i don't think i, i don't think of anxiety level is that high birth people in time. so give us a number cuz it's always illuminating on a number, a scale of one to 10. and i made sure that china will actually one day take taiwan . doesn't want all the anxiety level there are me personally is rowing. okay. rob? probably $5.00 to $75.00 to $7.00. i'm just okay, sure. just check me friday because when the last 30 seconds the show, your anxiety level that china will one day take taiwan. what john's i to level freddy, $1.00 to $10.00. yeah, i think about 7. okay. and brian, well, i think about the same. why don't you preach about though, start immediately disrupt the i submitted that seemed that way. all right,

sounds fascinating. i love that you helped us understand taiwan from the inside looking out. so outside this hyperbole inside this relatively com 5 to 7 amount of com. all right, thank you so much for being with us, brian and freddy, and waiting on for your comments and questions you're debating on youtube. appreciate that. i will see you next time of history likes watching. take care. ah. when the shuts came from the holiday and we heard cracks, we heard some noise. this was known, a sniper alley was on in the most dangerous intersections and sought able he didn't come in through the front entrance. that was what happened to the people who were shot. they came into the wrong entrance. the nightly pyrotechnics of profundity

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