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is tolerance and corruption have made all this possible. abraham sierra is good laws. the problem is that the narcotics tried, has penetrated politics, has penetrated the administration of justice. that's why i say we are facing a serious threat to the very stability of the state of unethical interest. i resented his felonies. ah, the government has enclosed a month long state of emergency in the guayaquil area. but that will clearly be insufficient to address the crisis, much less the social problems that nourish it. you see a newman al jazeera, why a key ecuador? nasa was getting ready to mock another milestone for diversity. the leader of its next mission to the international space station will become the 1st native american woman in space. fenton mana had repulsed nicole man was a veteran fighter pilot. before he was selected to join the elite ranks of nasa astronaut, now, after 9 years of training, she's finally getting her chance to fly higher than she's ever flown before. as
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a member of the why, like you, the round valley indian tribes man will be the 1st native american woman in space. it's important that we celebrate our diversity and really communicate that specifically to the younger generation. because i know there's kids out there that live, you know, perhaps in a community where there are barriers. and i want them to know that these barriers are being broken down. although she's proud to represent people told and competence, she says matter, far more in the u. s. space program than any one's personal background here at nasa . it's really great to be able to say it really doesn't matter. we don't highlight or distinguish based on gender or race or religion. we distinguish based on your ability to execute the job, man flies to the international space station october. but even bigger things may be in store for her while she's on the short list for artemus the mission to send
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humans back to the moon for the 1st time and more than 50 years. nasa says it will and the 1st woman and the 1st person of color on the surface of the moon as early as 2025 into martin al jazeera. ah, i thought quit check of the headlines here on al jazeera and strike as hit the regional capital of tig rye. in the north of ethiopia, there are reports had struck a children's playground full people were killed, local media, se the national government is to blame for the attack. the u. s. justice department has released a heavily redacted version of the document that helped secure permission to search donald trump's home. it says top secret records were not safe gathered at the estate which was searched on august the 8th. what is dawns declared, a national emergency. after months of record monson reigns,
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large parts of the country have been devastated. and what the governments described as a humanitarian disaster of epic proportions. and the unions review of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty has failed to agree on a final declaration, russia blocks a plan which would have reinforced the treaty, the curb, the spread of nuclear weapons. so those are the headlines that he's continues here now to 0 after a stream state you. thanks so much bye for now, talk to al jazeera. we ask for the rebound you speak off is clearly coming at a high cost for airlines and the industry. what's going wrong? we listen, you were part of the, i'm struggling in the 19 seventy's if you have any regrets. no, we meet with global news makers. i'm talk about the stories that matter on al jazeera. hi, anthony ok. on today's episode of the stream,
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we're going to look at how climate change is made a community in oregon go to walk over water. their story is told in the 4 lines investigation, when the water stopped a water crisis in americas west is intensifying the historic dividend. nope, liberated ecosystem to create agriculture at the expense of our tribes. that's the way it's been since time get the strong pay good away from the wing outlines, investigate how climate change his pissing an oregon town to breaking point. we will fight because it's in a blood. we are literally to the point that people are going to start seeing each other. when the water fell on al jazeera, johnny asked to talk about the water conflicts that you just saw that joey from the trailer. and i ren hello, emma. it's a nice have you all on the string to day joey. introduce yourself to our international audience. tell them who you are. what you do. hi, my name is joey gentry and i am
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a member of the klamath tribe. i am not on our official tribal government and i am not an official spokesperson. i just care deeply about my community, my homeland, my home town, and i just want us to heal. hello bad. welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to our global audience. my name is ben duval, and i'm a former or south o 2, a california along with my wife and 2 daughters, regrow alfalfa and we own the climate reclamation project. and i'm also the president of con water users association of i'm not representing the organization in the official capacity here today. i'm just here much like joe just said is says to somebody who wants to see see some union this community and this, this, it's situation remedy yet to handle. emma introduced herself i. my name is emma
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maris, i'm an environmental writer, and i live here in klamath falls. so i've been following this water conversation for about 8 years. all right, good to have you. i'm all right, so now you've met our line up. what would you like to ask them? don't you choose? you can ask them anything concerned with the climate change in the region that they're talking about? how it may well be solved, things that you don't understand, comment sections like that. i will try and get your comments into today's, shall emma, can you help us understand? very basically, what is the conflict about. you could have a conversation among i it back to being backdate to say the least. i explain it but very briefly. sure. so there are a large number of farmers and ranchers who use water from the giant lake that we live near by called upper klamath lake. and every year they get a certain amount of water allocated to them by the federal government. this year
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that amount was 0 and that was extremely stressful for the producers. but the reason that that amount was 0 is because the water in the lake also has other uses, like keeping alive fish in the upper clement lake and salmon down stream on the way to the ocean. and also watering wildlife refuges that keep migratory birds alive on their way up. so what we're looking at here is a bunch of different people who all want the same water and because of climate change, the water isn't there when everybody needs it. but it used to be that it have a look on my laptop. this is jerry jerry. so adorable fishing. how old are you that jerry? probably 6 or so? no. you got a big one. i recall that. yeah. all right, so what change because this is use little joey fishing your fish with your dad that have a quick look at dad. there. this is the water source is now being argued about so
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fiercely. reminders from when you were 6 to now what, what happened to this water source? well, as mentioned, climate change is, has changed things, drought conditions used to be abnormal, the anomaly, and now they're becoming the norm. there we have too many consumptive users and not enough water. basically, the government over allocated over promised a finite resource. and now nature and our waterways cannot deliver enough water to our agricultural producers and our fish, which are on the brink of extinction. there's another level to this in terms of farmers and then indigenous peoples relationship to the land. but i want to bring the book thompson, she's from stanford university, water resources engineering department and she's a student and she explained why indigenous people in this region of fighting. so
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hard to protect their water source issues as in business people and becomes rivers . everything to us when the river thing poorly medium, poorly when we can't get food from a wire. because there are some populations i dang off because of the drought and water being allocated to other places. then our diabetes are the rates go up and physically killing people. our families can be together. all of our family has been on the river and when there is no nomic income, when there is no practices culturally where we can go under grading more and families get up and spend time. other places who we are at and the people are directly tied to the river. we're literally translate to down or people are literally encompasses everything. who we are, what it means to be. so for me, in the, if you're on the river, is
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a fight for life. and so then that's one understanding else water and the relationship to indigenous people from that area. i'm going to go via my laptop. hey, can you shed some pictures with this as well? you and your daughters, what do we, what are we looking at hamp then? so we understand your relationship to the land and more to, to this is me and my daughters and we did our project were replaced an older inefficient irrigation system with a new one. and that's something that has been going on ongoing and not only on my farm, but throughout the climate. revelation project, especially in the last 20 years as we've faced reduced allegations we are um, as, as farmers, we feel like we're a steward of the resource and i'm speaking for myself. we try and stretch the every drop water as far as we can. and the further we get into these droughts, the more critical it becomes to do that. and we are all constantly trying to adapt
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and be able to make our systems as, as efficient as possible. but at the end of the day, it does take some water in order to irrigate and sustain of arm. and we have to be economically healthy in order to make the kinds of investments that allow us to be more efficient, that water and that's why droughts and complete water shut off like we saw this year are particularly devastating to our communities because it takes away our ability to remain economically viable and made on a long term investments that help not only my community locally here as far as agriculture, but the entire watershed is whole. i want to put something to you. bannon, and this came up, paying the reporting from my, my colleague just russian. he was reporting on the fish dying in the, in, in the basin and, and why the fuss at dying?
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i'm going to play this kit team and i'd love you to respond at the end of it. let's take a look. every year, thick cloud of blue green algae clots the water in the lake, state health authorities where people and their pets to keep out. with nowhere else to go, young, sucker, fish die and mass before reaching adulthood. if you were to have your dog drink that it would become incredibly ill if not kill it this year because of the extreme drought, extracting water farms could put the remaining fish at risk. there is very much a correlation between the quality of this water and the mortality of this fish. and the quality of this water is a direct result of irresponsible agricultural practices. oh, that one's hot, or is it then? well there's, there's several different factors that go into that. first i all explain
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a little bit about the geography of this area on my farm as most of the climate reclamation project, which is a federal irrigation project. it was one of the 1st reclamation projects that was started by the us bureau of reclamation after the reclamation act. i was pass in the early 19 hundreds and it was, it was one of the reasons was because it was recognized that it was such an ideal irrigation project. i'm just the way the geography is the water supply, the incredible soil. so we have here makes it, makes it one of the most efficient ervish projects anywhere. and i'm an extremely productive but i am calling about why and the sliding when you, when you talk about official irrigation projects ever. i'm a why would you, smiling, articulate that smile? but just in general, i think that what he is working better than is working towards is that he's
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actually downstream of the lake. the wires and gets is, is, has already been filled with algae before. it even gets anywhere near his property . so it's a complicated geography and solving the problem is gonna involve both solving issues of demand for water, which is where ben and his fellow users come in. but also how we fix the quality of the water and the lake itself. and that's gonna involve a lot of different land users and, and farmers further up in the watershed, closer to the mountains. i saw pen, i was just trying to hurry along because the irresponsible, our good cultural practices there either are that note and you will take me on a longer story finish. that story very clearly shows, so the users above oper, climate blake have more of an impact on their programs. like nuts factors, we insured very headwaters and um there's, there are some issues and but again, going back to what i said, it takes
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a stable farms that are the normal resources in order to update systems and change practices in order to fix those issues. and we're getting there, but nothing happens overnight takes time at so johnny, this is not just about agricultural practices. there's something much deeper going on here. can you explain? because it's there's, there's a rift between the indigenous communities and the farming communities. joey, tell us more. yes, and this is as difficult for me to say as it is for an agricultural producer, the here i'm we are unable to implement solutions which are in the field and in the irrigation ditches and in ecosystem and habitat restoration. we are unable to implement those solutions because we're blinded by racism. we are, we keep trying to undermine tribal treaty law, water law and weekend, the endangered species act. and we keep kidding ourselves by saying this is an
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efficient irrigation system. when it isn't, it's over a century year old engineering with no for thought or consideration, that water is a finite resource. and here we are in experiencing climate crisis and there is not enough water to go around. we can't say that we're efficient irrigation system. when we don't even meet or are consumptive use. so we can't, we can't claim that to efficiency. when it's not we, we don't even know our actual use usage. i'm from and, and that's something that i, that's difficult to. um. yeah. and i, i understand where you're going, um, but i can tell you this honor percent of the water you some i far as needed. and i know exactly how much i'm putting, how much i'm putting where and i can look that in not, but not all forms. roy and stereotyping forms is as bad as,
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as stereotyping. any group of people. and there's, there's a shift in, in, in, and you can definitely see more and more farms are updating and becoming more modern in the practices. i haven't got any, i'll tell you would you agree that that, that the producer is the farmers and the indigenous people probably agree on 85 percent of what needs to get done in order to fix the basin in terms of more restoration in around the lake and you know, support for farmers but potentially to have more flexibility in some of their contracts. there's a whole long list. what's frustrating for me as an, as an observer is that i think that there's a. 7 lot of agreement, but there is this sort of sense of tension that stops that agreement from happening there. there can be here. um and i, i know um, you know,
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11 comment that was made was that there's, there was a lot of broken promises to the indigenous people and, and there's something else that i'm in complete agreement with because i haven't promised from united states government that saying yes, we're going to deliver this much water to your farm every year. so thank you have a right to that. and so are both victims broken promises size of any if i just made his help out what he may not have seen when the war to stop the the document? yeah, i highly recommend you watch it. it's streaming right now. i'm the psalmist of the homestead. as, as they were, were told by the federal government at the time that they could have an infinite amount of water. you can come here and farm and you can have as much money as you like. the indigenous people whose lands a gang to live on to walk on to farm. so also told that in the lake that they could have an infinite amount of fish that belong to them. that was part of the treaty.
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federal government promised 2 things to, to different communities. and now we have climate change. and now we have a situation where those policies are not being hacked or whose promise is should be cat. first. that is the climate just as part of the conversation. a, do i want to go back to what you were saying? well, you just brought up racism like this is racism. i want to bring in, i a farmer called leroy. and then we can just have him steal ourselves, how he talks about the indigenous people and this conflict that is going on right now. here he is my, my work with them. you know, have you ever tried to work with the gimme with the what? a gimme gimme gimme gimme. gimme. much like working with the tribe. gimme gimme, gimme gimme. they don't give you. gimme gimme gimme. gimme jo. he why can't miss conversation? walk out that. that's an example of why and the road blocks we have
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we, that's he, the human eyes does to the point of a gimme. and that failure to recognize us as people or the failure to recognize the strength of our nation to nation treaty is preventing us from implementing those solutions in the fields and those irrigation. just a irrigation systems were fighting the wrong fight in court. i'm for decades irrigators have tried to come after our water rights, which have been reaffirmed water and treaty rights, which have been reaffirmed in the court for the past 20 years. and at this point, so much time has passed that we in response to leave or his comment as being
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a gimme. i think that we are legally affirmed in our position and morally confirmed and valid. there is no more room to give. we are in crisis. if are locally and globally, we have as few as 50 to 60 harvests left before complete oil desertification. and so not only are our tribe trying to preserve this resource for us locally, but globally implementing more regenerative agriculture solutions is going to save humanity. we have to find solutions, and the 1st step is addressing the strength of our treaty and acknowledging the injustices we felt. yes, i'm a go ahead. i was just going to point out that, you know, i think that the route of this is the fact that these promises that were made are not all able to be fulfilled at the same time in the current regime. it is
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important to realize that the treaty is 864, and most of those home setting promises came later. so if you're going to look at and that's how the courts have tended to look at it, is that 1st in time, meaning the oldest promise takes precedence over the newer promises. so that is why you might hear people say, well, the tribes hold all the cards when it comes to water because the courts have said that they have the 1st in time right to the water. what's tricky about all this is that we're suing each other. instead of getting together and coming up with solutions that work for everyone in the basin, that's what we really need to be doing. and everybody would rather be working together than suing each other. so it's really frustrating when we get stuck in the cycle doing each other. i mean, i'm wondering if i could come a weekly. yeah. but let me, let me tell you this to you because steve country is a retired farmer. drawing on his drawing on his wisdom, this is what he told us a couple of hours ago. who is peter is older, the crime is based on water conflict is for the diverse communities of the basin to
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work together. no political or legal process will create a durable and just solution until the people that share the climate bit river work together. seek political leadership that brings the parties of conflict together. what to media that does not portray villainy, or there are people only trying to survive, both farmers and tribes. the key to our survival will be conservation, innovation adaptation, and the problematic realization that time passed is not time future. does that sound reasonable 1st by then jo, a bang? absolutely. it sounds reasonable to me. that's what we've been hoping for for a long time and jelly. of course. absolutely. and i think to get to that point, we have to agree that we are fighting for the same thing,
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which is how do we farm this region so that both our fish and our farmers can thrive. and that, that answers right here, boil house it and tell you, so that's also what he's showing to us. i'm just showing you healthy soil and healthy soil is healthy water, healthy fish, healthy ecosystem. but we've been so embroiled in court battles that we haven't been able to focus on implementing the systems and the solutions that will unite us . save our, our agricultural industry here and dave, our ecosystems in our fish. he'll our communities like that's ultimately we are all just trying to survive. can't drive gas i, i offered up this conversation to audience on youtube as well as watching on tv. copper thought said this very quickly. let's make this a speed route. this is stella, doro, dela doors says the native indigenous peoples are not the ones who contributed
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heavily to pollution for climate change, let alone misuse the land instant reaction from you, emma. i think that's largely true. i think it's also true that we're in a unique situation, the climate based on that, that our own soil is so rich and nutrients that it's polluting the lake, just the volcanic soil around here. so it's wetland restoration, that's gonna save us an upper base. another one, this one i'm going to put to you, been cutting edge best practices, inefficient irrigation and land quote, management of the lease that's required and greatly appreciate it. your thoughts of the former my, my thoughts as a farmer is that i when i looked at this typically i'm related to climate change that you're good i or culture to hurley, sustain boyer. good night culture like we have here in the climate basin is one of
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the few ways that we can translate our food supply, agency, fetch, climate change, and i figure that we need to be her, be part of the solution. and when need be economically healthy and healthy communities are do that. i'm going to bring this up point up to you j just very quickly again, on my laptop we were talking about this whole show on twitter and, and we looked at maybe this way into the conversation is racism at the root of a war to war in oregon and an estie says, probably it is america. joey, can this problem be solved? it must be thought we, we must solve our problems locally because they are a microcosm of the what we're facing globally. yes, they can be solved or else i wouldn't be here. and, and had the confidence to speak of it speak of these issues. but when you think about it, agriculture as a whole, i'm 98 percent of america's farm land is owned by
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european americans by white people. so only 2 percent of americas farm land are owned by people of color that in and of itself. sort of exemplary eyes a problem. when i see you nodding just faint, briefly as we wrap up the show. oh no i, i, i agree with that. that's um, you know, that's, that's a fact and i don't think that we should hide from our history and the phaser mountain in the past. oh, they said that, you know, i've heard talked about for, i'm waiting till i'm tried. she. no, there's yet, there's huge problems in the past, and i think that we need to acknowledge that so that we can work from it. so really don't repeat those same mistakes in the future. i really appreciate you having us very candid conversation and have a role on right here on the stream. joey and ben and emma,
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thank you so much. thank you. on you too, for your comments. no questions. have a look here on my laptop. the reason we started this conversation was because of a fort lines investigation called when the war to stopped an oregon town at its breaking point doesn't say much about the climate crisis. and america today to check it out is currently streaming out. is there a dot com and that's actually for the day take care. i see next time. ah. when the shuttle came from the holiday and we heard cracks. we heard some noise. this was noon a sniper alley was on in the most dangerous intersections inside able you didn't
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facing today. i've been working in earnest, trying to find ways to get this language up to them. kids, when do we do as to why and what are you going to do to keep out? it's our language that keeps the red blood women, right? they have one, several fact i fight for a while. if you got them eric, i was told that things that were texting women. we made the challenge in the region . i will not being thrown like i want freedom. we don't have read them in didn't study these about 2 weeks now. i say 3 days journey to a show on the west and your grade someone destroys all countries. someone needs to rebuild ah.

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