the cardinal's substantially share the vision of francis, but of course, they might elect a successor, who wishes to change slightly, the direction or somebody who really wants to continue strongly in the same direction. me over the next few days, new cardinals will mix with more experienced ones. it's the perfect opportunity for the cardinal, who will elect the neck from their own ranks to size up the competition and prepare for coming vote. that is closer. every day. adam rainy al jazeera vatican city. ah, this is al jazeera and these are the top stories. unprecedented monsoon rainfall has submerged large parts of pakistan, killing more than 900 people. the government has declared a national emergency and is calling for international health. designing beth,

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the past week, tripoli has seen a build up of rival forces with jostling for power. it's the latest threat to 2 years of relative pace where ukraine says it has exported 1000000 tons of agricultural products so far under a deal broken by the u inn. and turkey last month. grain has been trapped in black c port since russia invaded in february. the u. s. justice department has released a censored version of the document that helped secure permission to search donald trump's home this month. it says classified documents were not safeguarded at the form of presidents. the state and russia has blocked the adoption of a joint declaration on the union's nuclear disarmament treaty. after a month long international conference, moscow directed to parts of the draft statement which included concerns about russia's seizure of europe's largest nuclear power plant and ukraine. oh, those are the headlines. the news continues here on al jazeera, after inside story up next.

ah, why has the plies if the very hunger being ignored? hundreds of thousands of people fled a military crack down and me and my 5 years ago that been refugees in bangladesh ever since with no hope of returning home. so what future do they have? this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm tom a crime on thursday. more than 1000000 bro hanging refugees marked 5 years since

they were violently driven out from me. and my most is still stock and most become the world's largest refugee camp. and neighboring bangladesh that demanding a safe and dignified return to their homeland and the future for the thousands of children born an exile. but their chances of going home any time sooner, uncertain last year, the same army that expelled the rope, hanging over through me and miles elected government. now fighting between rebels and the army has intensified in the re hang his home state of rec, i'm almost a 1000000, mainly muslim, very anger sheltering in bangladesh, myanmar denies them citizenship, making them one of the world's largest groups of state, less people, more than half our children agency say they are at risk of becoming a lost generation because of a lack of education. 48 percent are women and girls, many of whom have survived or witnessed some form of gender based violence and

conditions in the refugee camps. a dire authority say, crime has increased including violence, drug dealing and human trafficking will bring in our gifts and just a moment. but 1st the sometime from 10 to chantry and cox's desire for refugees. life here is challenging, overcrowded and fragile shelter surrounded by barbed wire fences. bend from pharma litigation work and travel. refugees said they are frequently harassed by police and camp authorities. violence trafficking, child marriages, and drug related crimes are increasing inside the camp. as there are cotton flat to bangladesh in 2017, she has 3 children. 2 of them were born in the camp. she was worried about their future. father, we had enough. we want to go back home to me and mar soon so that our children can get some education and have a normal life on their safe. it has done more than enough and it's time for the un

and global community to deal with the plight of the refugees. so hot was up. kelly . we have been here for 5 years already. if we have to stay here longer, in that case, the united nations, bangladesh, government and other organizations should find a new strategy to send us back soon. nearly 4000 growing refugees leave along the border with me on my tomb rule in what's called no man's land conditions are harsh and they are cut off from the others. behind me is the only refugee camp in the no man's area. most of it is in the me, on my side, the recipes in the international boundaries. when the conflict in man mercer kind state is gradually spilling over close to the butter. i'm out of this. we are unable to go to our own country. still another fear we have now is due to frequent clashes between our account, but its rebel, insurgents, enemy, and mar, army. it is getting very close to our camp area. and if we can hear artillery round the machine gun fire almost every day,

our children and families are in panic. 5 years on since the rowing guy arrived here, the u and refugee agency says, then i'll face that protracted crisis and need help our gently. so i think the maintenance is providing the support for them to survive on the day to day basis. humanitarian needs are covered, but also moving towards what is going to happen next. many rominger refugees feel increasingly frustrated that they have little say and decisions about what happens to them, and that their fate and destiny appeared to be at the mercy of others. tanveer charged re i'll jazeera cox's bizarre bangladesh. ah, well, it's bring in our guests now in london, we have a chore when executive director at the boom of human rights network in vancouver vent. yes. mean la virginia human rights activists. and in cape elizabeth mind in

the us, tom andrews, the you in special report to on the situation of human rights and me and my a welcome to each of you. thank you very much for being on the program today. yes, mean i want to start with you 5 years on. doesn't feel like anything has changed or have things simply gotten worse. unfortunately, things have gone worse. i think be the segment by hun. we're was very, very captivating and very much true to what the sentiment is like on the ground. people are extremely worried that their, their situation is not going to ever get better. neither would it get better and were kind state to the hunters doing. and neither would it get better in the camps where restrictions are increasing in order to push people to go back home in an unsafe conditions. and so our communities are basically stuck in the in limbo

and without any choices of our own. our agency completely ignored and our skills completely, you know, really just neglected and not incorporated in the plans and management of accounts . sure. do you think that there's a feeling of helplessness among the population at the moment that you see the range of, of religion in the camp, the general types of over the climate ice people and, and then besides, they have a lot of pressure there. you know, social pressure and authority of pressure from the authority local abilities and also local communities. the, surrounded by the a lot of problems and difficulties and, and, and this is that layer. so failures by the international community bring us. and that's the result we have to be told we've heard in same quite a lot about the conditions in the refugee camps. but obviously there's hundreds and

hundreds of thousands of for i think it's still in me and my what does that like for them there? and has just gotten worse since the military took power. john, that's a very good question and yes, things are getting unfortunately worse of inside it. there are over $600000.00 range. we're living in a kind of state right now. i spoke with some of them as recently as yesterday, and i can tell you from my conversations, things are bad and they're getting worse. there's no respect whatsoever because whites editions are horrible in terms of the way to treat discrimination that they face restrictions in movement or even greater never before 130000 more than 100 are living in what are called id p cans to really concentration k x, if you open your 1st and been there, then you know, 5 years ago when i was doing a fact finding mission before i became specially before i was meeting with people

there and one man, i'll never forget to be said. well, if the world won't help us, then banish bomb the cage because it would be better for me and my family to die. but it would be to continue to live in these conditions. this is 5 years. so the fact is, is that this grim milestone that we have more, that the kind of issue was not the beginning of the living hell that have been running men, women and children suffering. it's been going on for some time and it continues to go on the consulate even if it will get to the i guess, maybe the, the lack of response from the international community shortly. but just while with baking about these, these camps and the plight of the people within them, education and the last few months has been a massive issue. he has been can you tell us a little bit about what has changed in the last 5 or 6 months in terms of educating young people in coaxes bizarre or i know for

a fact that our community has done a lot of work to uplift ourselves. and a lot of these informal schools have been run mainly by donations within the community. and you know, however much we can muster and get together, we actually send back home. but we actually have, have been seeing the dwindling ability to actually transfer the funds inside conscious bizarre to the people that we're working with on top of that many defense, you know, access that we used to have are actually closed down. and then we find out that informal schools are actually no longer allowed or permitted. it was sort of ignored, neglected for a very long time that we did this as long as it doesn't mimic any curriculum that can be, can work in the bunk bed. she curriculum and now we just have

a situation where authorities of humanitarian organizations are the ones that actually tip off bug that she verities to actually come and close down these, these informal schools. and now the people are in, in the camps are actually really feeling helpless because they, they don't know where to send their, their children being formal tools that we have were by no means you know, helpful or, or not, not necessarily helpful but, but more so that it was not sufficient in any sense, but it was enough to actually get people to, to see the prospect to actually hope for the future. but in this case, when all the schools are closed down. and in connection to that, we have rallies of people being told to actually say that they want to go back home regardless of the situation. there is connection there where education is not, no longer accessible. and here we have

a group of people saying that they're going to go home regardless of how the conditions might be. it's just mind boggling how things are developing and, and really were saying at this point, it's true. i see you nodding, you hid along to those statements there with half of the these cams made up of children. what does the lack of education on such a large scale mean to the future of these people are, you know, are you concerned that this is going to be a last generation created through this? yeah, 1st of all, we would like to, thanks to bundle that is for saving the life of the good people, but not allowing them for the patient is killing their souls. look at the population, 52 percent of the population in the young people. those who are school age and they're not allowed to go to school, then they don't have any. they're not even young young. you really just you, you see that the way they have training and giving that your kids the children. it is very remarkable and really salute them, you know, the way they have come,

stand up for the community, but then also prohibited by the been ready to go. and from the human perspective, it is a crime. you are not lying young generation to do what you cation and that means you're just trying the community for the future in a long term. damage that, that going to cause and, and, but they will be the 1st country who's going to face the problem. because the other day, you know, practically the demo and as long as the bump military or government or any not the opportunity to have to rebut creation, there will be there for you. no longer does it go on. how many decayed they have been struggling for, you know, diplomatically to send them back to burma. it is faith. so there must be alternate if we but during, until they go back, the able to go back there there. so they need to stand up on their own. the education is the most important and the backbone of the community. to stand up on there to let the government need to consider seriously to allow their school and

not only informally, almost all of that and let in dimensional community also raise this consent with the bundle of government. tom, just on the bank, the dish government. you know, 5 years ago i mentioned that they never thought that they would still have a 1000000 refugees living within the country and these sorts of conditions. it's too much pressure and responsibility put on being put on that one country and what can be done about it at this point in time. well there is a question on the back end, frankly. ready not enough has been done just for somebody when it's no question. when you think about bangladesh is developing countries, lot of challenge that they're facing. the course world is facing a very difficult economic theory law. now. they have a lot on there. after that, more than 1000000 people are who gave welcome into their country to save their lives, literally one for the launch. and now they're faced with an enormous, enormous challenge of how to deal with this enormous responsibility without

adequate support from the international committee. so i think it's really, really all the points that the young women child child went to making a very good and what bangladesh needs ish, obviously, voices to be heard on the inside. those camps will do listen and be responsive to those wars is but also they need support and engagement to a much greater degree. ready from the international community they, they deserve our thanks, but more than that, they deserve awesome. do you feel that you know, this, this plight of a 1000000 refugees is getting attention at the moment because it says significant anniversary 5 years on. but do you think that a lot of it is a lot of talk but not much action m. yes, mean how, how do you feel that the international community has responded to to the plight in the last 12 months or so? do you think it's been forgotten?

i unfortunately think that it, it has been a lot of times there is this curious trend with an b international community. when it comes to dealing with your cause or the working, your plight is it always acts as the issue is separated from the member issue. and there we have it. we happy coo and those widespread violence across the country because the international community has actually ignored the concerns that were boist by the rank community and leadership. and now we are stuck in the middle of the issues of human insecurity and various other restrictive likelihood. and you know, apartheid like condition within crime state and the mob and the, penalize ation of mobility within we're kind state and our cost me and me are for the working all of this. is it basically going back to the issue that is not dealt

with? well enough or in full force, which is impunity, especially the impunity enjoyed by the me and my military. there are still many countries that are dealing business and connecting or benefiting from the economic incentives and basically enabling the me and my military winter by extension. and that is prioritized over saving our lives, saving people's lives in miramar, and in the bazaar. and we're going to all across the world. and so we have this issue of priority not being you know, placed on the right issues or on or, or morally seen almost. and so when we, when we deal with issues of rain, it's almost like we're actually just trying to kick down the doors that would never open for us. and we have issues like this where, you know, dwindling funds are really an issue for the both of us. she, governments and again,

i may be critical of the management and the plans. but it, it needs to be said that we're having a likelihood of actually repay trading is, is almost impossible at this moment on time until unless the international community really comes together and find resolutions while also holding the min more military accountable in the ways that a brute, there you know, or, or eradicate their power or influence over me and mar, without that and without, you know, addressing the issues of, of lack of agency in the camps without those issues addressed. we really won't be able to get anywhere and the we're in your situation will get even worse. i see all 3 of you, not in a seemingly in agreement via but kill what exactly would you like the international

community to do? is it more money? is it sanctions? is it legal action? what, what can i do at this point in time? well, the short term and long term strategy we need to have in the short term, we need to build up the community with education. and the political education is very grasp level young people, you know, to have a formal education and also have. busy vocational training, so they can build up their life and the on the other. the 2nd thing is political support in get active is in on the wall. you don't even in bangladesh campus. well, they need to get support from the international community for a large, stronger movement that will make sure the rebut creation of the community will be decided by the community, by that in your community. when, how, when, and how will be decided by the court in your community, not by the 3rd country or not anyone, not even by the list, because this is the proper treatment. this is

a criminal. busy not the hotness piece, not part of the should be punished to be brought to justice, but it is not going to happen in the, in short them, it will take a long time. so we cannot, what all our expectation and the solution only on the legal matter. legal monday's extremely important, it is crucial is very important. transitional justice also very important, but we cannot rely it entirely. all our movement and action depend on, on the legal matters. as you see it take long term long ms. several of the case and some of the yes, but for that time a big, large community already has been effective and destroyed. but the genocidal action . how are we going to repair to how we're going to make sure that this damage will immediately stop and turn over? so we need to shop, we need a short term strategy to build the community, to support that are going to be leaders for the political movement and, and all the resources need to be china among the people. because when the people

deserve to protect themselves to decide their future destination for this internet omitted immediately to do this. tom with st. recently, the international court of justice rule that day, the game be as genocide case against me. and my can now proceed. is that a huge turning point in terms of getting justice for these people? well, it's on his, excuse me, is it important stifel? there's no question about it and at the other, if were to step forward, happened yesterday. but when the u. k joined the case now we have a, obviously the gambia leading the case. we now have the little ones a canada and now the u. k. amount to during the case of so both of those stamps the fact that it's want to proceed as a case. and the 5 that there is stronger support by lation are very form steps for, but we need to do a lot more then than just gap. there is ways in which the international them is we

can coordinate their actions, focus strategically in pressure that needs to be applied, diplomatic pressure, economic pressure. but why caught of weapons? we need to cut the flow of revenue 2 of the military hunter in the market. think about this note the, the person who commanded the troops with committed the genocide 5 years ago is the one who led this coo and me and more last year and is now what is the criminal gang basically is what you, how you could do accurately concealment a criminal gang holding an entire nation on 50 form 8000000 people hostage. it is critically and it and what's really torturing killing with lead daily life for the people and me law is a living helen is getting was the international community has failed to adequately respond to his voice. it it's at it's, it's, it's real to focus. it's energy and attention in a coordinated manner, and i think that needs to be on the gender or every country who believes in human

rights and injustice. otherwise, this light mirrors just want to get exponentially worse before gary. so we've got a few minutes left and i'd like to hear from all 3 of you on the sort of final point. yes ma'am, we'll start with you. how much hope do you hold out? that's that one day the, the people this, that i stuck in these refugee camps will be able to return home to me and my, and what do you think it will take? i think that it would take a lot of efforts and as a special repertoire andrews have mentioned, it would need a collaborate of a coordinated effort from all sides and all parties involved on this to actually uplift the community. and 1st, they would have to start with recognition that ringer survival itself has been a skill set that is immeasurable by any means. and it needs to actually be

acknowledged and utilized in terms of planning for the inevitable, which is, however long working you need to stay within the cups of bizarre refuge account or other settlements around the world. that they should be able to use those, those skills to actually meet issues like foot shortage or you know, teach themselves run educational system. do things that would actually sustain them for the time being until they actually go back to me and mar. and hopefully they would go back as a contributing members of the society. so i have a lot of hopes for my community, and i know that we have survived one of the worst thing that ever happened to humans. we would survive for the next, however, long it takes for us to came back, you know, the peace and prosperity that we deserve. but it wouldn't meet the international community to become serious about the issue and actually take efforts and, and actions towards that goal. thank you. all so much for joining us. unfortunately,

we are out of time. i'm such a huge issue and so much to cover. but i'd like to thank all 3 of our kids today. sure. when yasmine and tom andrews, thank you so much for being on the program. and i thank you to so much for watching . you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at i j inside story. for me. tell mccrae and the entire team here. and uh huh. bye for now . i ah,

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