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right side. as you can see behind me, there people are now campaign, or under top orland or in 10th order. we're lucky. i view t. these are the people who are now living under gorging. he, for the last 3 days, are they said that they're been getting the board from people for their food and all. however, they said they need car borland, they need dens, regard of the gorging heat, the water. they are also free. they regard that no, that makes red, the raging torrent that are coming down stream of flooding is also causing destruction in afghanistan, thousands of homes and large areas of farmland have been destroyed. taliban officials at least a 192 people have died. intense fighting in the libyan capsule has killed is 23 people and injured more than a 100. if i build up a rival forces after a dispute about who should govern,
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how does the people in the central african republic march in the capsule bungie against planned constitutional changes are accusing president felt santa count toward era of trying to one for a 3rd term opposition says is the beginning of a dictatorship. the un has condemned an ethiopian government as strike that killed at least 4 people on friday. unicef says the attack hit a kindergarten and michaela regional capital of t grime. the government has denied targeting civilians. ah, and supporters of argentina's, vice president christina kirsten. i have fought with police and wellness, iras, and we're trying to reach her neighborhood in the city to show support. a prosecutor has asked for fernandez to be sent to 12 years in prison. he's accused of corruption. those are your headlines. we're back with more news here on out a 0. that's after inside story. actually, it is going to the polls in
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a historic attempt to change its constitution. 50000000 people are eligible to choose between the welfare state and strength and rights, or to keep a constitution adopted under the dictatorship of augusta. finishing julie referenda on al jazeera conflict. has returned to ethiopia to grind region. the government and rebels have accused each other a violation of months, long sci fi. so can mediation end of the fighting. what about the many civilians trapped in the region? this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle, ethiopia. northern region of take ry has been in conflicts for nearly 2 years now. but the last few months of ceasefire had led to hopes of
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a possible peace deal between the government and rebels. that all changed on wednesday with an attack in the town of cobo that the government blamed on the tpr left, the to gripe people's liberation front. then government forces launched an air strike on friday, antique rise regional capital mckelly authorities. there say several people were killed including children, but officials and addy sub above the cues, the t p l f of staging the decks. now there's growing concerned this conflict which has displaced millions could spread, bringing out gas shortly. but 1st, this update from katya lopez, haughty on an air strike in the capital of ethiopia, t grey region could signal a new phase of renewed fighting local media. say the central government is responsible for the attack in an area control by rebels from the to graham people's liberation front, or t p l f, as she does desiree sonya belinda. i think the s drive kid around noon. a
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neighbourhood is a residential area, sir. only civilians live here, so gonna levy the fighting, which began earlier this week marks the end of a ceasefire that was agreed to in march. it also derails efforts to negotiate a p still between prime minister abbey augments government and t p l. a. fighters. it's important at to have some insight about why this war resumed right now to guy was under the ship, d. c. h, a receiving no fuel, no electricity, no communication, no banking to guy forces. i've been weakest point right now. the fighting has made an already dire humanitarian crisis. worse. millions of people have been displaced with more than 3000 reportedly fleeing from the region every day. the u. n. and other agencies have been able to deliver some made in the past few months. earlier this week, the head of the world food program accused
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t. p l. a fighters of stealing food and more than 500000 leaders of fuel, humanitarian aid men for civilians never reach its target. all the parties need to do whatever they can to protect or to protect civilians and also very poorly, i think, to ensure the unimpeded passage of humanitarian of goods. the latest round of violence is raising concerns. they could put even more people at risk in te grey and the surrounding horror and afar regions. patsy, a little piece of the young al jazeera ah, that's bringing our guests in montreal on monday for an advocacy director at the heart association of america, an unstoppable sam. you'll get you an independent journalist and political commentator. and in london, martin plots a senior research fellow at the institute of commonwealth studies. very well.
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welcome to each of you. and i'll start with you monson out in london. what is behind this resumption in fighting between the national government and to brian fighters? well, those really is the piece process was it was stalemated the 2 sides. and it's really not the to gray people liberation to greg government. they were elected in september 2020 and their position is as complete their odds with the government. you know, they have a series of conditions, they won't see the siege lifted, they want to humana here and a to be allowed to go through. and they want recognition of the boulders as they existed prior to the conflict. so those are some of the conditions they put for the government says no, you must just sit down. no pretty conditions, just told the 2 grand government says that they want the kenyans to mediate and the
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african union, the preferred mediations for the european governments. so the huge differences between them, they did hold, i believe, 2 rounds of face to face negotiations. one i think was in se, show the other one in you booty, but they didn't manage to make any progress. and you know, this is the end of the rainy season. it's the time when people are going to get back to fighting. you are going to big fights now because you know, the to grands, basically are in a position where the longer they do nothing. and to fit that with the army with their people, essentially starving, it's just impossible. so they have to come to a situation where they will be some kind of resolution to this one way or the other . ok, the move their troops up to the front line and then the fighting began. ok, i'd like to pass over to on a monday for do you agree with that assessment for the reasoning behind this
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resumption in hostilities. now i don't think so. i think for me that isn't why this is amanda, because the park is not considered and then she should process was imposed on the spark is from the process where the nothing to exclude the summer and her and i just were not home. so i called the with the fact that now the way better is it okay for soldier timing on kind of cause i think if you want to think of it, but this is not surprising. i think for us then you will have the new
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membership and all the kids before they came to worry and after that. so i think the government is saying that stop and condition keep minding condition is to be membership point. so i think it's time out of pocket money because they're looking for resources. now if you do it yourself and other people on the office, you know, and i should point 5 think back. because if i knew and i region, and every time i've been appointed and for whatever resource my final it is your which led them
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to part of the last month or is what is that a nice thing about the where the meeting needed and policy? sure. we'll talk a little bit later about what both sides the saying about their willingness to end to peace negotiations. but i'd like to come to you, samuel, get it you, you're actually in ethiopia. how much contact do you have with people in this region where the fighting is happening? can you share with us what's happening on the ground in terms of the fighting and what it's like trying to get information. if you're referring to a tech guy, i have no contacts. but if you're referring to cobo, which is in dumb har region, i was in popo not too long ago, back in may. and i had a chance to speak to lots of residents, young people who are willing to fight for the interest. you know,
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i've been going to places where i've had a chance to have a conversation with lots of people in i'm in florida and a year ago and to great. but something that stands out is that this conflict is really, really affecting old all the parents. know it's just in one region, but in all parts. it's a conflict that has been defined by sexual violence. i know mr. martin was talking about an election that happened in 2020 in which the t p never claimed to have 100 percent of the seats in integrity. but what's, what's needed in this country of 115000000 people is understanding compromised. this conflict would not be solved by military force. there has to be a negotiation done. there has to be compromised, done because again, the effect it's having on your parents everyday. phillip is not just in one region
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and all region of the country is really unbecoming of what it could potentially be and should be at this moment. before we move on from you, mr. get it to. i'd like to ask you about your take on why the fighting has resumed now. well, again it's, it's a which issue among utopians. it's who you ask. the government is insisting that it was provoked by the t p. i left the t p. s saying otherwise. so to you ask, much of the countries don't touch testable to us, we can't go and verify this information. isn't the difference between what the us the saying and what t p left and what the chopin government to saying are what's on the different making our position us, the parts of the local media really, really challenging. but again, what you feel been needs is under and is an understanding even from the you
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interest. there's a need for you to up at to bring some kind of piece before the field becomes like this, but the somalia or south to done or even sierra you feel has been holes to refugees from many, many countries. and we don't want to get to go to the roots of the cells to done, which is really concerning to all of us. and people like mr. martin shouldn't just take one side and reflect what's happening. they should be able. busy to hear both sides, we should, we should all do a snow, just one region that's being affected. again, that's as region of this country and we want it to get to work. if you still has a potential and we wanted to work ok, it's painful to watch what's happening. of course, i'd like to cross out of the 2 mosse and plots since the end of june. both sides has reportedly said that they are willing to enter peace negotiations, but obviously there have been issues with that. why hasn't happened? well, one of the reasons is that this is not a civil war. this is
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a regional war. there are not just ethiopians involved. the era trend army has been directly involved, alert was denied for many months by the european government. they were frankly not telling the truth. and everyone knows that the era trends are deeply involved in this conflict and are inside ethiopia, which is extraordinary. they were invited, thereby a prime minister abbey, the promise to be here, and they are not participants in this war. they will also, between 5 and 10000 somali troops involve this is a regional conflict. so in essence, you have to, to make this happen to make any kind of real progress, you have to sort out all these issues as well. busy as the, the, the p and one. and the other problem about this is if this is being portrayed as a conflict, centered on, on to great. that's certainly true. this is one of the major conflicts in the world
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. probably the bloodiest conflict going on at the moment. but there are other conflicts inside if you appear which have nothing to do to greg. and there are the 5 or 6000000 people displaced internally, displaced in ethiopia, and the to grant a conflict is only part of that. and that really underlines but key issue in ethiopia, which is that is how do you resolve what is essentially an 80 or 90 ethnic group empire. how do you turn this into an a democracy that is exception difficult. on him, on the phone, on that front, i'd like to bring it over to you. martin. they're talking about the presence of era tray and soldiers. do you think that this constitutes a regional conflict? because i've seen previously, you said, you know, this war was all, the difference is an ideology, but rather a war for power. so talk me through your take. yeah. i think
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we need to understand why this was different from what we needed to happen in defense at this point. what happened was when it was but it worked from power falling on the tool for me and it was primarily, you know, tripping my car. so because of my mental area, including in rome. yeah. and after i've been a conflict in order to get started.
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so this conflict is not about power. the minority groups impose it, but that's in the morning and they were kicked out of the bar and i'll be more himself trying to build a normal morning. you know, so to me, yes, it is suffering everywhere. but the root cause is this is monica bento community service. so, because i am homeless, identity is divided in new york and i was your own that and all i incentivized it says to on the speak, forget or forget it. can it cool to you know,
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and that's how it is everywhere. astonishing to me is also really to go back and to see why it's going to have been has been not being why for, for now, why didn't i think was present at that and it has continued. and so i think it's time to come back up and ok, and i'd like to go back to samuel, get it to that, that talking with connie that was sort of a more macro look at, you know, how, if you got to the point that it's at now, but coming back to, to, you know, what's happening on the ground now, what would it take for all sides to agree to a cease fire? and now the sci fi, i mean,
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there has to be trust. that's going to be have to be built by different actors. there has to be an understanding that if this goes on more, you feel best would be affected as a result. you know, whenever you travel to a far or. busy or to grow, you hear the same kind of voices accusing each other, all kinds of crime, including sexual violence that has been the highlight of this conflict. and if you want younger people, you know younger young enough to be my own children. if you want them to have a future in this country, need to listen to them. you need to put their priorities ahead of yours. and you know, there are so many young people who are not even going to school. what's the future going to be for this country? it's not just again in one region, it's an every region. when i was in cobo i had spoke, i was speaking to all kinds of young people. they're telling me the same kind of
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accusations i heard from the other side. so unless we want to see this country move forward, there has to be an understanding that we need to talk. we can't be cheerleaders on one side. we need to compromise and look at the panel the other side because everyone is in pain when it comes to the country. mister, get you before you move on from you. can you talk us through what the humanitarian situation is like now? because as we heard earlier in t, great, it's been described as a siege with a lack of food and fuel and basic necessity. so how are people coping well when i was in a region, i admit was lots of people that are needed to date when i was enough for i saw the same kind of problems i haven't been to to grade because we don't have boxes to the region i'm sure if we listen to the us, it's the same thing, but famine that defined my own use as coming back to this country. and it's not
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something that i was looking forward to when i was growing up. and it's the younger people that will have to shoulder the image that's been destroyed in this country. i, there has to be there husky manners funding from all sides. you know, we can take fights, we can be true leaders, but we want to see this country succeed some of us and we want we want to pursue. and i hope our leadership from all sides will try to understand that. and once you feel that to be a country, we need to listen to the other side will just be calm. cheerleaders, us, we've become, all of us. mustn't out. what role has the african union looks to play in this? ending this conflict? does it want to play a role it would certainly like to play a role, but it's exceptionally difficult for it because you know, this is happening right on the store step. now the saddest thing about this entire conflict is that it played a really constructive role within the 1st week of the conflict. and the chair
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personally, the african union who is the south african president. busy asa brought together, he met with the president of. ready ethiopia, and they hammer down in agreement with 3 president, 3 former president would go to mediate guess what happened? the next day, the prime minister abbey said this is never going to happen and threw it out the window. but let me just say one thing over a 100 made the point that this is all based on that. this is not true, this is not, not, not original conflict. and that is basically down to grand. i invite your listeners just to look up on google wikipedia, tripartite lines, ethiopia, somalia, early 2020 and they will see it. this is not something i'm making up. this was planned from that moment onwards and for months this,
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the 2 leaders visited each other's military bases. that's where it all comes from. this is not something that the 2 grand invented. yes, they were ready. they did, did mobilize their forces, but they knew they were coming under attack. what you expect them to do. but there's one thing that i would agree with both side, which is that there is a lack of clarity. and the one thing that, that prime minister abby and present the source of erica could do right now would be to lift the blockade on journalists. let journalists go up to the front line and report on what is going on inside to grade. only in the other regions, don't stop people reporting. and if we had clear reports by international journal and national journalist from the ground, we'd be in a much better position to resolve this contract. i'd love to come back to you on monday. the w h o z director general tells us that gabrielle says said the reason
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that the world hasn't acted with what is happening in ethiopia is because is the color of the skin of the people into gr. i do you agree with that assessment position to be honest. i think she talks about what's happening in my region not to publish it or how did i like to that or not just chin military. i'm in this country right now. what are some 1000000 people in our region are in that teach their media and i'm in consolidated as in one camera. that's it for you said last. exactly that for
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the 1st time in one year for tracking trackers, manish to walker walker. and what i thought was to get us to vote for government control and area and i'm we are running out of time. i just want to with a quick question for said you'll get it. you. how do you foresee this playing out of the few 2 weeks and mom says they're clear past the de escalation quickly to the comments so further ahead of w h o me, he's from the read and understand the pen it's, it's personal to him, but i think it has nothing to do was racism, what's happening in it. you're in terms of getting the equality ation us, the ukraine, the world is beginning to understand or get tired of endless conflicts,
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farming and so on happening in this country. and that's why they're ignoring what's happening in this country, and i don't think it has anything to do as racism. the world can't continue to subsidize when this conflicts are popping. but answering your question. i mean there has to be, it's yoga as a decent country. it has friends and other countries, they need to get involved. they need to understand they need to make our leaders understand that conflict to this country is really unbecoming of what if your beer was and is becoming. all right, we'll have to leave it there for time. ok, thank you very much for all of your analysis, your input, our guests. on monday for samuel get you and martin pulse and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll be there a dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our
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