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we know the supreme court's was due to me today. we had from our correspondence, my mood that that is no longer going to happen because of the violence in the green zone. if they do meet at some point or what will the outcome of that be? what will that achieve? while we have to remember that the supreme court is not a political faction or a political party, so be the meeting will have many more limitations that we cannot expect. or similarly, expect from other political dialogues or conversations that would take place on the sidelines in an attempt to end the violence. the supreme court has very much been involved lately due to the, to the physical close, messed up. the suggest movement was practicing in front of the judiciary. building the discourse for the involvement of the supreme court has also been increasingly
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involved due to the fact that there has been a lot of conversation with base about whether what's happening in iraq for the past few months. and not just today, as an evidence of the, the end of the political system of the post 2003 political system in iraq. you had a government that has been puzzled by our focus movement yet to replaced with numbers on the same political system that the people protested against. you've had a, an early elections, which is already a sign that there is a crisis taking place in the democratic practice. and experience of the country and then you've had to face. busy admit the failure of even being able to form a government from these are the elections that you claimed to be meeting the demands of the protest movement to be meeting the demands of the people to witness a change and reform. so the, as, as, as much as we are with the seeing these delays from the governmental for formation
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. whether it's the arguments between having a consensus versus a majority government. these are all signs that the political system no longer is able to continue the political agreements. they had with the official and unofficial political institutions in the country to maintain the political system that has the evidence, the very unsustainable economically empathy. okay. they don't good to talk to stay with us because it's the top of the let's get a time check. it is a gmc, here in doha and 11 am in iraq. you're watching ongoing coverage on the political crisis in iraq, which has erupt it into violence looking at live pictures, the green zone in baghdad. this violence dropped it off to the power for she made a move titles. sutter announced that he was quitting politics. here is what has been happening in baghdad fight and continues. now for the 2nd day between
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supporters of my father and security forces. we know, at least 30 people have died so far in the violence of 700 have been injured. the high security green zone has been hit by several rockets, the green zone houses, government buildings, and many foreign embassies. let's go live to build what he'd, who is in baghdad bring us up to date with a situation that well, that is no major will change on the ground. as of yet military confrontations continue. we still hear the sounds of gunshots inside and around the green zone. which is not far from where i'm standing now. medium and light, a gun shots, the security, the media security cell that is discuss this with the government has said that for
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rockets landed inside the green zone and exploded inside the green zone way. we were seeing the columns of smoke filling up out of the, of the green zone, probably because of those explosions. now, as you know, that these military confrontations have been also carried out by the support of the leave that the southern, the military wing of put it. so that if known as this that i send it with the brigades engaging in military confrontations with the other military units affiliated to iranian back to preliminary block, known as the coordination of frame work. ok to take a prime minister most of us because it has reiterated his instructions to all the kids forces to refrain from using it live bullets against protesters that also could be explained that some military units affiliated
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to the radians. such groups are also shooting at the southern affiliated protest. and so now the hope for many people is to direct a call to the she had to reference the grant she has proposed to intervene. many people say that this is condition could be ended only by intervention. from the grand leader in a national city. because remember, this is an in russia at conflict either on the political level or the military levins. what's going going now is military escalation, military confrontation between the military wing as of both, both factions, both of them have military ones on the ground. they have probably the same weapons, the same tactics. they were fighting together in previous wars. i saw these
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in iraq cells, they, they probably have the same weapons, have the same tactics. but now because of the political rivalries, h positive them represent different political faction. and that has ended up in them in gauging and military confrontations inside and around the green zone. the parliament has sort of is still under control of so there's supporters, as you know, that they have been staging an open sit in for over a month. now they have been joined in also have been joined by other militants from other neighborhoods. we have been seeing the 1000000000 getting to what trains joining on also the bathroom peel in and around the green village today was supposed to witness the crucial session at the supreme court to who on
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a petition submitted by supporters demanding at dissolution of the parliament. but today, the pre import is not operating on good faith. you should have been put on hold because of the current the current escalation a point that my previous guess was making. we are looking at the green zone here. this is, this is the focus, this is where a lot of foreign embassies are. this is where all the government buildings based. and yet this violence is allowed to happen. why is that no intervention from government forces of government security will as it looks at least for the time b,
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it's looks very complicated. as you know, the green zone is home to a government offices along with the international diplomatic commissions, including the ladies states embassy and the british embassy. and it's very ironic because this area, the green zone, has been heavily fortified, has been heavily protected. was it heavy? and special security measures, but was what is happening now inside the games. you're also explains how the security system is wrong in the system at the u. s. mc has been operating in the morning, but now that also does not, does not prevent the escalation inside the green zone, as you know, that the security forces have been deployed area. but they haven't been able to cook the violence inside the green zone. since the incident since the, the storming of this presidential palace inside the green zone by so that support
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was violence parted when violence erupt, it security forces shot light, bullets, a tear gas canisters against the protectors. and then violence starts at that moment and has been escalating until today. so there is no sign of abating at least for the time being as we have the clashes are still ongoing. security forces haven't been able to contain the big confrontation, the, the violence, despite the fact that government security posts have been deployed around the green zone. but it's still the clashes is the clashes. we have been hearing the sounds of the gunshots still ongoing inside the, the green zone. ok. many people rely now on mediation from new york city, especially from the grand reference in measure to intervene in this intro share.
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it's conflict. ok. thank you for that. my mood of why he can keep monitoring the situation there for us in baghdad. we are looking at live pictures of the greens in baghdad in the capital city of iraq, where fighting now continued for a 2nd day between supporters of my father and security forces. as the people have died in the violence so far and 700 have been injured, let's get more on this med wish. these, the director of the house of a rocky expertise and a policy advisor to the rocky parliament secretary general's office. he's also in baghdad. he joins me now. life, what is your understanding of what is happening in the green zone at the moment and elsewhere in other parts of iraq?
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how, how do you see events unfolding where now day to of this violence where you've been expecting it? well that as a nation of said look to the other than that he actually published yesterday. it looks like it's a green light for his own military commanders or against the green zone, or say, against his opponent, from the population of frame who are also presented in the other side of the games on which show you that how much the situation is dangerous. first, and secondly, how much is actually insisting on his demand, which is the dissolving of the falling because the public cannot cope. any government that has no support from the, from the, from the parliament because the parliament is actually with the majority of his
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opponents coordination frames. so eventually there is always saying, please give us a roadmap after the dissolving the dissolution of the, of the fall and not before then we can talk. so it show you that how much the situation actually actually things and eventually i don't think they will will i don't think the, the, the what were 3 or 4 let's say, will withdraw as a supporter in a way or another because it's a very crucial thing that said, look for the will have some sort of re entering the political process by elections and eventually getting into the parliament again. interesting. you mentioned early elections even if elections a cold again. how is that going to change the situation on the ground?
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what's to say we don't end up with the same results we saw in october last year. well, let's be obvious, all the opponents, all the political blocks actually seeking for elections. we also of the court dimension frames before getting into the fall and that was this. the results are rated and we need to make an election of flexible then say the bottom and saying we come on to do something like that. nope, of the top and just say books i've got it's actually i'll show you that how much important elections for both sides. the most important thing is that both sides want to gain at least 100 seats and their lead actions to get the majority inside the parliament done to for my government. so it show you how much the parliamentary system is actually very crucial for the political process. in iraq, this is that the 1st and the 2nd thing is that the state of the,
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i'm just asking to the remaining of the electoral law and the lack while the coordination of frame is asking to change the law and change the electoral committee for both sides and actually looking and focusing on the elections in a way, and i think eventually we're going to reach some sort of a settlement that keep calling me as a prime minister or at least 6 months. then we will go for m a elections in a way that it show you that the if up the brain more things going on countable as a prime minister. and there will be an election in about 3 to 6 months. at the moment we are seeing violence on the streets. this is the 2nd day we've seen. we've seen things erupt, the way they have 30 people have died. what is it going to take to get people off
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the streets to get the supporters outside as supporters of the streets and to stop the violence? according to my understanding, i don't think any part local political party or local law or even regional countries can do anything about the situation. now, even, i don't think even the jury and not just can do anything, not. i think eventually we're going to reach to some understanding under the umbrella of the us. now the one is more neutral, part partner in the, in the iraq is brooks like that. eventually we're going to reach for them to, to actually to be some. so the bottom, the most important thing even put the us is that to start to make a roadmap out there, little action, which is it, show you how much force and this issue for said most of the, of the fight. i think i coordinate also con,
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it's my understanding is that the firewall is still going to be reaching something like that. let us not forget that it's supposed to be today. the civilian court will have a decision about the dissolution of the parliament, which is supposed to be announced li, live today. and show you that the superior court in a way and try to achieve and try to be neutral. and what happened yesterday, it looks like it's connected to this, to this issue, and it looks like that the progress of the new that the decision will not solving the parliament. so that's why everything up yesterday. ok. and eventually it's a pity and should have a decisions about the face of the parliament and the election. okay, i rushed a really good to be to direct of the house of iraqi expertise. also a policy advisor to the rocky parliament actually general from dublin returned to
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correspondent ali hudson, who has been covering iraq for a long time. do we think early elections may be the way out of this? well, this is a request order. the most of the quality confections are talking about early elections. however, there are a bit of differences are going to who is going to oversee the sections? is it going to be the government of 5 minutes to care to confirm the stuff most of pardon me on it's going to be another government. and this is kind of very complicated just like everything happening in iraq. now most of the others 1st request. however, in the, in the past election, as you were saying, yes, no one was able to get the majority and maybe we can, we're just going to witness the same results. and then you want, however, may be with the population today and speech people would be
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anxious to, to, to vote, to give them a charity to a certain party or a certain alliance in order to end this that lock the lock has been witnessing such deadlock for the past, at least 8 years since 2014 every election there are, you know, a lot of complications related to the way that government is being formed. there is no major, none of the groups, none of the parties, none of the movements is able to secure image oddity. and actually even a slight majority, i'm not talking about 50 percent of things. someone's getting 90 seats and no one is, is really no one was able to talk a lot of securing this. and this reflects the fragmentation in the iraqi political system. the political system became dysfunctional. so no one is able to
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take a decision. and this is taking the iraq is every time to regional factor faction of each of the players in order to create the kind of a compromise. whereas, for example, after the 2014 election prime minister hide the body was, was chosen later on. and other prime minister was chosen on data on will stuff calling me so it's always bringing names. why like, you know, trying to reach a consensus through them. so any new election in iraq with may be a, from people to go to the, to the balance, to, to vote and to choose an alliance with me. johnny, in order to end this, this deadlock. what is this possible? this is another question. so this could be, this could be a reason for people to go to the, to, to, to the box. but are people ready are people? does people have the people have the confidence in the system to go and vote and
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you know, and go through this? well this, this is exactly the question i was going to ask you, you've been visiting iraq for many, many years. how is it that the iraqi people feel about their leadership, about their lack of governments, about general frustrations over the economy? there's been no one in charge really to, to sort out iraq, iraq's economic problems. what is it that they want? you know, it's, it's mainly you have economy problems, you have security problems, you have social problems, your political problems. it's just like a blend of problems. and a country that rich with minerals rich with resources. so both 2003 iraq, all the political factions that ruled iraq came without a real agenda. i mean, agenda with respect to project risk to a vision of the country. there was no vision. so this was the main reason that after the u. s. envision, was always clashes between political factions. it was always flashes between
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regional fractions. and often they were really to make at least say to, to make use of the freedom they got into 1000 and see if it was whatever happened. so this was, this was the issue today. that's why the iraq is today. many people will say we'd prefer to have a different system, a different combination, and maybe their d. i've got a new political, social, political contract that could change the situation after 2003. iraq was built up on a sick system where you had the, she had the news and you have the courts. ok, this, this divisions that gave effect, or each of its own share of the system created a kind of a dysfunctional system. so what's, what, what, what should happen? is it just the election to change actually election is just another episode in
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this very long. so i think what's going to happen is that it offers you that agree on. and you knew social, socio economic, political contact, that would and whatever was happening over the past. yes. okay, thank you for that for now. ali hashem speaking to us there. well looked outside of support to say they are not being heard. and they want change. john j respects the religious reference to grand ayatollah ali, also studies, but we want them to put out to religious decree to stop the island. so just as they relisted to push these men to fight, i am vincent. my foot was ended yesterday. why? we're only here to ask for a good life to ask for schools for children, access to health care. we want dignity with john hope and was on it. it is as if they have gotten in their ears. we asked 40 forms. we asked them to back down,
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they did not know they did nothing. they are now cornered. we don't want them to go . that's returned to a correspond ali hush him who is live on set for us. are you listening that to a some of the supporters of looked at all sada, talking about how they're not being heard and that they one change which is essentially what you, what you were saying. what exactly is that change that they are looking for? look, that outsider himself has a, was able to get the majority of seats in october last year during the elections, but then he wasn't able to find form a government because he is not on the same page as the other. she at parties why, while this is also related to differences within the sensate quality, can factions looked about as if she and the other side,
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the for the nation framework? is she also it's a combination of she, i groups. now there are differences. there are differences on how they see it off on there are differences on relations with iran. there are differentiate differences over relations with the auto ball, the differences over how to who the country these differences created this rift. and also there are person of differences between the main leader and, and coordination framework, which is former prime minister in order malika and, and looked at the southern to go back in history, 2002009. when northern america was a prime minister, he launched a real campaign on the supporters of southern and killed many of them in basra. so that is, that is a read rift between the 2, the 2 men. and so this is all accumulating and can be aching. and was creating this, this, this is, you know, what the 3rd risks want, what the iraqis, one, what,
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what the framework one could be that could be the same by the way, because everyone is saying we want to government, we want the sun government, we want a better economy, we want to better social life. we want, we want one. but at the end, each side has its own background, has its own baggage that it's coming with. and that's one of the reasons why they were not able to, to, to form a government further. could have formed a government if there was the appropriate number of seats within the shinnecock edition and the curse. but even don't, he wasn't able to do that. and the pressure was raising on him all the time. there was there was pressure than just this. but the, the question is the other other iraqis because in the election last election, 2000. and i think when you want, we were company this interaction only 43 percent of the iraq is voted. so there are
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more than 57 percent of doctors who decided not to vote. what does these iraq is also want? this is also a big question, a question because those who didn't both of them would you the majority are indeed ali how she got to talk to you. you will stay with us. we just want to take a look at a map just just to give you a picture of where this is all happening. iraq, so cool with the green zone it's, it's a highly secure area. was created off to the us invaded in 2003. it's where parliament is located. there are many foreign embassies that as well as other government buildings. let's return to move up to why he's in baghdad. we have been talking about 2 days of violence on the streets of baghdad and elsewhere. iraq, this political crisis has a, has, has moved on to the streets, bring us up to date fuss, mahmud, on the situation on the ground while
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military confrontations continue on the ground inside and around the green zone. but it now calls for calm. have it started to come up one from the mushroom, but the, the president of the kurdish region, he is calling for call and his offering at mediations as you know, that many people here have been losing confidence in the whole political elite, the, they're not expecting any the escalation to come from the political it because people here say that the, the whole political system is corrupt. they do not trust those politicians. in fact, they accuse them of ruining the country for a long years. they say that all these reactions on the ground are directed
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by the politicians own interests. so now the hope as many people in iraq say, is on the grunt i, it's a reference in measure to intervene to he, many people believe that he is the only person in iraq that can, that can stop this escalation. the situation remains very tense. inside the green zone, all state in institutions have been put into a hold. care for you is still in place. the whole city is in some kind of pat. this is no movements, no work is it is yawned interstate in institutions. also including the supreme court that was supposed to hold a session today to an a petition submitted by affiliated politicians, demanding the solution of the parliament. the supreme court, like many other state institutions and other premises of the supreme judicial
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council, has halted operation temporarily. upon request from the can take a prime minister to hold the operation and all the state in institutions and to impose fuel and the country that it started yesterday. so this kind of paralysis that is, this impacting the country is taken a heavy toll on the civilians. many people have been complaining of, they're not able, they're not being able to go to doctors to go to hospitals to receive medical treatments. at the situation inside the green zone. we have been still hearing the sounds of gunshots, heavy and medium gunshots inside the green zone. the media cell that is a political, the government has been reporting about several exclusions and civil rockets fired inside the green zone. medical sources say 30 people have been killed so far, and about 701, including 110 from the security. from the security forces. mood
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use you spoke about the expectation of the grand ayatollah intervening. many a waiting for him to into being a, for those not so familiar about the various leadership aspects of iraq. tell us a bit more about who he is and what he means to the rocky people. and is it surprising that we haven't heard from him yet? leg grand ayatollah assist. annie is the very for the old, almost old. she to people in iraq. he the look up at him and they listen to his instructions. remember, he was the gods father of the 2016 formation of the paramilitary units known as the popular mobilization forces and by the.
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