or other plausible explanations as well that have a lot to do with internal politics within the solomons. and we are forgetting that as the idea of great power competition makes everything into a 0 sum equation. china has tremendous issues right now. not the least of which is that they've announced as of today when the party congress will occur in october, which will become the primary focus of what happens within china for the next couple of months. c, u. s. has made that accusation accusation. at the same time, china regularly accuses the united states of things and we don't accept that as gospel either. my point is simply that if everything in the world happens as if it were solely driven by great power competition, that leaves out a lot of possible explanations. ah,

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ah, hello, very welcome to the program. i'm net clock, so after days of violent protests and fighting shiite leader mac tighter, all cider has called on his support as to leave bank dad's green zone. the unrest was triggered by him announcing that he's quitting politics. they battled iraqi security forces and rival shiite fractions. net government buildings and embassies . dozens of people were killed. solder is one of iraq's most important figures, wielding enormous influence over many aspects of public life. he denies any involvement in the violence. norbert madly has this report. after 2 days of violence bugged outs, heavily fortified green soon is emptying of protesters. a sharp contrast to earlier scenes violence broke out on

monday when powerful she eyed lead and walked out of florida and notes he would quit politics. a day later, he apologized, including his supporters, to stand down and go home under gonna, but i'm not going to these yet. what the on the i'm, we're not committees yet. there were some brutal militias, but the satirist shouldn't be vulgar. i still believe them, my supporters are disciplined. that's why if you don't withdraw from the parliament within 60 minutes, i am not going to be the solder is movement leader again, a moment. i don't even want you to stage a peaceful demonstration. ah, it's not the 1st time saw the supporters move the way into the presidential compound. they've been demonstrating, ma'am. this is a political rivalry between 2 different parties. are sides of the spectrum,

one side and trying to maintain the consensus agreement of the con. so say tional, democracy and pulse, 2003 iraq and the other side which is a sundress movement, trying to are revamped the political system in iraq. his party won the most parliament seats in elections in october, but failed to form a choice of coalition. thought it may have told his support is to stand down. but with such intense rivalry at the heart of a rocky politics, there are fears. it's only a matter of time before chaos and bloodshed is repeated. nor about manly for inside story out, is there a guy? well no. 3rd or else i'd a rose to prominence after the end of that saddam hussein's leadership back in 2003 . he's against any foreign interference in iraqi politics and supporters, mainly hail from the poorest sectors of society who've been historically shut out of the political system. sat as movement one,

the most seats and parliamentary elections in october 2021 eclipsing rival, shiite political parties, backed by iran. but after months of failing to form a government sadder ordered his m. p. 's to resign. in june, a month later, his supporters occupied parliament and demanded the removal of what they call corrupt politicians. ah, so let's bring in our guest in baghdad. we have, i'm edward d, a senior foreign policy advisor to the iraqi parliament and the director of a house of iraqi expertise foundation in washington dc. below we'll have our wagner fellow at the washington institute and a former faculty member at the american university of iraq. soon of money and in doha is aidan, i'll can nanny and nonresident fellow at the arab center, washington d. c. and a middle east political analyst who we've just heard from in laura's report, a warm welcome, gentleman to you all. i'm rusty. i'd like to stop. you 1st,

sir. so what do you think's been going on here in the past 24 hours or so? how do you assess the events that we've been seeing unfolding in baghdad? well, it's always the same, like half an hour. so the october elections and adults that have been announced about the seeds and. busy coordination frame actually has the minority inside the iraq when another a triple a lion tossing between the subways or the other one is which is to then become which we can get a k d b eventually have the majority inside the parliament. so at that time they have the majority inside the parliament, they have a carbon as a prime minister. was also supposed to have the speaker who is also inside the

alliance from the hug. and also his vice hopkins belongs also. so it's all happened that the real majority on what they called our national majority control the country and to try to have a question to elect the president and the president should nominate the biggest law and order. busy to nominate the prime minister. eventually it didn't happen on the weight because the coordination of frame actually stop any action. so the polymer and they asked for the solution will be on the months and before i leave that. okay . let me just say i just want to move it on because it is a lot of background is not it's very complex, but we try and simplify. we can they don't, said child. santa would have been aware what was likely to happen when he announced

his resignation. and the violence that would follow wouldn't be, well, it depends on the speculation that we're trying to observe here. there are speculations, claiming that the the resignation or the public announcement of that to electrically resign was as and direct way or an attempt to escape any accountability from the following actions that would be conducted by the address movement in particular and be in regards to some of which are the on doing off the address movement. however, now after the most recent speech by father, where he denounces any violent actions or any violent involvement by saddam and the recent clashes between them and the armed wings of the political parties within the coordination framework. not speculation, and that has been countered and contradicted right. so what i'm trying to get out, what is, what is he achieved by doing what he's done?

well, so far, he has achieved an rhetoric battle, which is an overarching battle that he has been trying to conduct for many years about as the reform revolution sentiment that he's practicing against the political class, despite, as right for the mentioned by your guests, despite being a major member of the same class to various cabinet, some parliament. however, what the thing that might seem that he has directly achieved from withdrawing himself from the classes have been taken place recently as he is seen as the man or the strong man who decided to pause or turn off the classroom that were taking place for the betterment of the people safety. right. ok. so then below this is it a tactical resignation that he will walk back from?

do you think your and he has this is not the 1st time that others threatened resignation. and definitely not the last time that if you're an eggs on that kind of promise, it was only yesterday that you resigned them. today we see very active issuing edicts when i quit and politics is nadine cordial nature who still saying his quitting politics isn't right, but again, he's a master of his, he's a wordsmith. so today, for example, he, he edited what he meant already interpreted his own statement as his resignation is not a full resignation from politics. and again, this is not the 1st time that he doesn't use them in the past. in the past. sometimes his even disappeared for months. at one point he was even living in iran, but that doesn't mean that others can just pack up and go. he has significant

influence and maybe even bigger ambitions. ok, i would rush to here before we get into what happens next. or what the next move is, let's just give ourselves a bit of context. so this whole political system in iraq was created by the u. s. and it's our lives after us led invasion. and here we are. 17 years later in the state of continued political paralysis, why is it that the political system has not worked because it's based on. ready issues and try to separate the country in a way that you should have the problem. paula: you should pull the political power. the majority of the others should not participate in a way or another. this is secondly, i think the most simple to achievements that say it has already. the game is the postpone the declaration of the for the resolution about the just hoping the father

much and according to my knowledge, it's always like that said the always with the drove. i'll start, he will gain what she wants. now what the now the people say to me is that some political a game and happened yesterday, or let's say today at the early morning headed by the the, the share, even in the one another. the contrast look for that that he could take something. 3 and he can with forces. so eventually the always doing something like that. he knows how to explain the way he actually made a peaceful demonstration and surrounded the parliament that he went to the judiciary system and try to he actually draw. and at the end you actually put a huge pressure yesterday on the,

on the judiciary system and ending with the. busy that job, they are a decision which means that it will negative for said most of the same time, it looks like a bed is a political agreement happen between the opponents with would be which is headed by the much it looks like that. okay. i think that's a good day. we know exactly what's happened and those 24 hours. all right. i'm it risky. does that mean the next stop? it's more elections. well, it means that the conflict wallace tell you that it does not mean it will end. what we saw yesterday, that's what i think it's is the beginning off the rail military power. busy of everyone, if it's not the end of conflict, where are we heading? is there a chance for all our civil war?

civil war means we are expecting a nation wide conflict, which involves at least most of the countries, various communities and political groups. it is very clear that this is a political why the lead between the very to prominent rivals within the interest the political dispute has been going on for months. as rightfully mentioned by your yes. over the political or political deadlock over who will name the prime minister. people and servers have been warning about the, the arms confrontation that could break out out of the political deadlock that has been driven by the sledges movements and the coordination framework. but as previous dimension was the announcement of the claiming that he does not favor and will not support any violence in particular, the violence coming out of his very own movements side to continue this conflict

will not be praised by him or supported by him. that in itself should reflect towards some stability and calmness and within the next few hours, if not within the next few days. however, it seems like that political process that has been preventing the country from witnessing a governmental formation will continue if not worse than below. what if it's clear that the political system doesn't work, and i think we need any more proof that that's the case. the political system has to change, but how hard will it be to move to a different different type of constitution, different type of political system. i think what you said reflects the public sentiment in iraq, both at the street level as well as the elite level that this post saddam system of sectarian ism has run its course. and i think in part we see is

a, basically a she effort to consolidate power. now that they have coward and cornered the sunni and the kurdish communities in to the sidelines in the past, the securian system was for the 3 communities to come together. and somehow balance the power, but the sunni areas have for a while, but, and the rice is control and now they are the ground at least being held by malicious. and of course, the kurdistan region is probably the main western ally in iraq has also been marked by internal division on one hand effort by the 2 main political parties for basically using the rest within the she, i house for domination at home. so the shell parties basically see, see an opportunity maybe for the 1st time to dominate all of iraq to, to roll back the centralization and federalism. and now it's down to who of the 2

main shack camps is going to control the power in iraq. and i think this is also iraqi agency at display because impass episodes and post election episode, the united states and iran were the 2 major powers that not iraq into different directions. but now i think the united states is somehow missing in action, despite having helped a very successful election. but they largely disengaged after the election. and iran also doesn't want to really agitate, because i think both washington and ron, i'm returning to the nuclear deal. and i think the result, whether it's other or malli key, the condition for work or the or, or the other is current. i'm going to be in power for iran. somehow it's bread will, will remain buttered. so this is unfortunately iraqi agency and display, but they are really playing with fire. but i think also this conflict. the reason why we can see these brinkman ship happening is because in

a way the international community to factors to international factors are subsidizing this conflict. one is high world prices, which in a way is appeasing the society because there is enough of a trickle down economics that's going down to the public. and i think the other is the anti says international coalition. that's at least getting rid of one problem that allows provides a little bit of space for the, for the politicians to do this kind of bring my ship that doesn't really vile and yesterday, and it's possible to escalate further. or maybe my hope is that we reach the peak and then from now one will be headed toward more de escalation, be it having early elections, or maybe even looking at constitutional amendments which, which is an issue that a lot of people talk about. but i'm not sure that this kind of 10 situation is when you want to do a constitutional revisionism. right. arrested constitutional amendments. is that

possible in this turn, clara? well, it depends. it depends on the. busy political agreement that it should be happens those 2 days and i don't think there will be some sort of in a way or another. maybe there will be some sort of agreement about the. busy the election be the dissolution of the parliament they and also the most important thing is that the electoral lo and they like to commit, which is the most important thing i think for them to do or to work on, on the, on these issues. again, i think there some sort of a political agreement fact that the agreement happened yesterday. all what we saw today from said is already has some sort of for roadmap. i've played, i've played out then go to the media and say ok guys,

it's not my problem. now. we should stop that after making some political interest that it's supposed to be in a way to really get more speed. and then it actually, i think, actually looking for 100 seats and there are been jaden. if we are heading for early elections, isn't it just very likely that we can get exactly the same results as you had in the past to, which is just division and, and they process for the tool and especially given the in the last election. nothing is what 43 percent turn up, not likely to be anything more than that next time. rounded it, people are just not engaged in the political system in iraq. absolutely. and that is that the core of the objectives and the discourse from the protest movement that they were focusing on. reviving or re establishing a new political system and not producing were presenting new elections, would have the same influences and powers of the same political interest groups and

political parties that will end up finding their way around to negotiate a government following the elections, which is very similar to what the coordination of framework has been trying to do with allies across the spectrum by creating a consensus, the government and ignores the next world performance that took place during the elections. again, going back to the demands of the ordinary rocky citizen. since the out great, that the protests and october 2019, until now the focus has been way wider and way more overarching and, and i'm bigger than just trying to. and next a new government. the focus has been, as you rightfully mentioned on, on, on finding new solutions to amend the constitution. finding new ways to not allow political parties or individuals that have been involved in the previous corruption allegations that have been exposed in so many different social and online campaigns

. by various activists and g o is for the past few years. therefore, the thing that people are hoping to witness in iraq is as a new political change, that wouldn't involve the same political parties that have been driving and determining this political system. even if we were to expect a constitution remaking or rewriting, we might even go back to the same problem or to the same problems and issues we faced during the making or the writing of the current constitution and the early stages of the invasion. you still have many of the prominent political figures and parties and interest groups that were involved or at the present, or would in direct the playing a vital role and writing some of the problematic articles and clauses and the constitution. most notably, the clauses or the articles that were in one way or another paving the way for the

ethnic security for the ethnic secretary and quote that distribution which prevent the technocratic and independent and qualified law makers or politicians to gain the positions based on a roadmap or a program that benefits the country and the long term and not to benefit the interest for the securing discourse that is utilized and exploited by the political party. you make very interesting point about just you mentioned the ordinary iraqi citizen below. in these, this political vacuum that the countries experiencing the economy and people's lives are suffering and all the while you have this, this sort of unseemly struggle between what seems to me to be an increase in the popular elite. just tell us a little bit about briefly if you would about how it is for the ordinary iraqi citizen living in iraq. with this political vacuum. we saw the public grievance and utter disappointments in the political leadership in the protest movement of 2019

which was a truly of indigenous and popular uprising not targeted at one single group or party or sac. but as the entirety of the system, a system that has failed to translate some $10000000000.00 amount of oil revenues into economic prosperity actually even even to deride the poverty, let alone prosperity creating jobs while you know that they the iraqi political system. because of the competitive nature, i, every righty, citizen through the social media and the competitive tv screens know the size and the level and the name of every corrupt leader and the, the, the millions and billions that gets siphoned off out of the country. so the public grievance i think was a display and of course we also saw the,

the viciousness of the system of the militias, of those in power. they killed 800 protesters in 2019 and wounded in some 202-5000 of them just to cling to power. and again, what we see today is on the one hand solder who wants to dominate the political scene, the ever larger cake, thanks to high oil prices. and of course, the coordination frame of that starting to hang on what is using populism. one is using the deep states, and of course the one factor that's absent is the public. and again, i think these, the colonel political lead is really playing with fire by ignoring the public because in 2019 they were that they were peaceful protests. and again, the, you know, the ire of civil war that keeps, you know, coming, you know, it's always about this militia, is that militia, but i think the, every iraqi household has it at least one or 2 guns. so the main threat,

the main worry is when the public starts to rise up against both she, i houses, you know, you know, kind of a shakespearean with a curse in both houses. i think that is the serious moving forward, given how, how aloof and how this regarding the kind of leadership are of the public. ok, where will you will watch very closely what happens in the coming days, weeks and months, and we'll have to leave it there. thanks very much indeed for joining us. i'm adversity bella and zaid on al. can nanny? thank you too for watching you can see this program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. and you can also join the conversational twitter. we are at ha, inside story for me mccloud. and the whole team here is to buy from, ah

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