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hello, welcome to the program. i am hashem. i had better. poland says it will demand $1.00 trillion dollars from germany for crimes committed during the 2nd world war. the figure follows the release of a report on the cost of the noisy occupations of poland. from 1939 to 1945 ponens white winged government says the country has not been fully compensated by germany and says, compensation was paid in the years that followed the war. and the matter is now closed. we have a lot to discuss with our guest shortly. first, this report from dominic haine. in berlin. when german forces attacked poland in

1939 adults, hitler said he was writing historic wrongs done to his country. the war he started would leave the continent in ruins and kill tens of millions of people. few suffered more than the poles. one in 6 of them died under german occupation. nearly 2 thirds of their industry was destroyed. more than 3 quarters of their infrastructure was ruined. now the modern polish state believes the modern german state should pay. yes, awesome. above the poverty, 1.3 trillion years is a very serious sum. but considering payment of this kind of compensation is spread over decades. it's a summer german economy can perfectly overcome about being crushed. the compensation pay to france for the 1st world war damages stopped any 10 years ago. rags of his thumb is quite realistic now, but not to modern german eyes. successive governments of said a deal in 1953, between the communist governments in warsaw and berlin waved poland claim for

compensation. the present polish government says its predecessor was forced by the soviets to make the offer, and so it should not count. in one sense, germany has already lost much around a quarter of its territory, was annexed by the ussr and poland after the war. millions of people who had lived were evicted at accepting the loss of this territory with key to bringing about german reunification after the cold war. we find there are some who say the current polish governance may be using the reparations argument to make political capital at home to stop something like 83 percent over, their supporters want this to happen. elections are coming up next year and having run out of other issues and definitely wanting to distract from inflation, fuel shortages and other problems upon the spacing in recent times, democratic germany has tried hard to right the wrongs done by nazi germany,

building monuments to the many millions who were murdered and expressing determination never to repeat the sins of the past, but also arguing that the time for compensating the countries that were invaded and occupied is over dominant came al jazeera berlin. ah, let's bring in our gas in wal. so micah raccoon, an anchor of the polish t v news channels to the p info, antipathy weld in belin alrick, broken up professor of political science at stanford university. and in london. maximilian has fellow of the foreign policy research institute. welcome to the program, michael. is it a genuine attempt by the polish government to seek justice, or is it just a politically motivated bush by the law and justice party?

well, you have to be aware that in poland, the memories of the 2nd world war are so embedded into our common understanding of reality that we are right now. that actually it's very hard to find a single family in poland that haven't been directly touched by the horrors and the charge of the, of the 2nd world war at basically almost 40000000 people right now. have there that have their grandparents fighting. the 2nd world war are actually most of all being a victim of the 2nd world war in some way, actually very high, hard to find a family that had no financial losses that didn't lose its. i'm no homestead locations, the people were murdered. this is a thing that it's so embedded into our common understanding of the,

of the history of everyday life. this is general public expectation for years that the, those are trusted. this going to be face name and in a way to compensate a rick. but then when, in, in germany, the general sentiment among the people and they published meant is that this is a white wing government, which is weapon ising legacy of the past to try to put more pressure on the german government. how do you see the german government moving forward while the german government has immediately responded and it was very calm and straightforward referring to the legal side of the story, which is that everything is settled. and this is not something that is legally put on the international agenda. no one has any doubts about the german responsibility and the guilt,

and the tragedy of the germans cost in poland. but the general to maintain germany is also among the other members of the union. that we don't to politics with history. maximilian, the timing of the, of the, of the, of the reparation issue is pushing back to think that the law and justice party is tapping into that particular anti german sentiment to advance its own political agenda. knowing that there's absolutely no way that can get any confessions from the germans. well, yes, the government has the tie you budgetary funds closer to the rule of law decisions within the european union. this is, of course, been a particular bone of contention between germany and poland. for the last 6 years with germany alongside most of the institutions in brussels, finding that the ruling government and po and the law justice part is reform of the legal system that system and particularly the supreme court has violated those

european standards. we similarly seen these kind of disputes are german reparations, at other times of such tensions and putting in 2017, which is there is the genesis of this report here now as well as in german greek relations at point where germany and athens have disagreed over european policy, so there certainly is background in more recent history, which has caused some of that poor faith about these claims within germany and amongst critics of the polish government. michael, as you heard the, the germans, i didn't. this is a closed matter. they have paid compensation, right. after the war, not only that, this thing that the, the, the film taken some of the territory from germany right after the war. so this is already settled. know that some fiercely not true, but the main important, the most important issue here is to add to the even the, the matter of the,

of the legal framework which is, which is open for discussion. and actually you kind of state that polish the polar of the country as a sovereign state. but the 1953, it was not as sovereign state. and the reason for which poland was not the sovereign state in 1953 was german and russian calling aggression against poland. the 2nd world war. you have to remember that for the 1st 2 years, paul was actually occupied by 2 countries by soviet union at the 3rd. right. and the reason for which paul, and actually the state of poland that was on the russian control, made the claiming 963. that was there was actually at the german government, it's talking about constantly for those years. was made actually by the soviet union. and the fact this, i actually opposed the claiming, but this is doing a politics with a history. this is not true. the fact is that those moral the moral responsibility

which, which my, my, my partners here are claiming is obvious. i agree. so this was and follow by the compensation of the loss of millions of lives. here i got a report here. actually one of those 3 books. this is a report was produced by group of sciences. people who weren't going to be able to, into any political party that was never working for years to assess the level of compensation required to have to be aware that nowadays in the german banks, there are accounts that were filed by the scholars who arrange this and worked on this issue that are collected from poland to make this thing even more complicated or simply or is it also the germans call our claim. but this is not

a claim from poland. debt that that, that should be paid by the germans. if you'll listen to, to professor are certain that the books on the issues of the reparations for greece and for poland, it's a state of quite obviously. so this case is not closed. ok. and paula was not a sovereign country when it's claimed waiving it's, it's crazy and i think this week on, rick, why is it difficult for both nations to move forward, turn the chapter of a long history of animosities, talking about the defeat of the teutonic o order the prussia has rolled in the splitting of the lift, waiting and punish commonwealth and do exactly what the germans and the french managed to do, which is basically turning up chops on starting a new one. i think the main difference between the successful reconciliation,

germany and france and the not so successful reconciliation between poland and germany. yesterday we heard that there is no such thing like reconciliation until germany pays gigantic. amount of money was the statement of the lead off the piece . the main difference is that we have different starting conditions. hold and tell us that story. the story of being a victim between russia and prussia and nazi germany or germany in the union. this is this tensional narratives that helps especially conservative christmas are. those are all just fact. poland was attacked on the 1st of september, 939 by germany. it was a provost attack, the 1000000 lives arms. and in the case of france, we decided that we should close the chapter and start

a new european warner. based on the mutual interest in we should have a common future. and while it was rouse and germany, paula was in pre zone in the russian soviet prison. we were victims of this war and we were 4 years under the communist regime. and the reason for which that happened was coming to attack on poland by russia. germany. okay, no one ever compensate to the polish people to my brother of my, of my late the grandfather, people who are in the constant times they were never compensate to think that there is anybody who denies that responsibility. i say both as somebody of german descent who also have families who died in the polish concentration camps. it is where the german adult come on. i think scary ball is clear, fresh lives. no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no. did the phrase polish concentrations that were well counted on polish notes or concentration camps. jeremy were a little trade in applied july. if you don't, i don't. oh no, no, no. it was one of the most important and fundamental think no, don't worry when i agree with over and over and fashion tank, those where i have no time. no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no way. we're not a whole german matter. no pion. things are with concentration camps because paula did not exist because it was occupied by germany and by heart that other than the certainly was the very this isn't it's album, however, is an indication of the very complex nature of this. ah, i'll give you a chance to wanted to finish what you've been saying or maximilian if you don't mind before, we will forward to another angle of the story. yes i,

i agree. there is a very complex history and i certainly don't deny both the german and the nazi for crimes that they carried out on polish occupied territory. that being said, i think part of the problem with the issue today is that how complex these are, these claims are and the issues of how the best way to solve them is and to move forward in a european project. the fundamental underlying issue relates the state claims against one another. the original claimant, 953, was yes, between the communist government and controlled by moscow in poland in a communist government in eastern germany, also heavily influenced by moscow. but there were certainly crimes, but continued in that era as well. there was the force movement of germans out of cities in the territory. that is now poland. i don't think demanding reparations at other when they're war going on. being waged by russia in ukraine is helpful. for ensuring the common european defense going forward. and because these legal

issues are so complex, it's simply impossible to deal michael just adult or more forward international audience. maximilian was talking about the 6000000 poles who were killed including 3000000 polish jews, and the republic of poland and poland. either origin or bonder at the bank. and this, this is paula killed by the german occupying forces. i want to address 11 more visual line briefly of course, which is also very important thing, is also an indication of the level of complication of those issues. the fact that the, the certain number of gentleman citizens had to move from the territories that were granted to poland. the 2nd world war was a decision of the allies during the conference in head on it pumps dropped. those were the decisions of the allies after the 2nd world war and they made another best

during those conferences, but paul, regarding to get reparations for from germany. and it did not receive some feel today. this is a moral issue. ok, issue of responsibility and of compensation to the victim. sort of re, i'd like to ask you this. are we talking here about an a dispute which is going to fade away one day? or are we talking about something that has the potential to undermine the 1991, a treaty between poland and germany, the treaty of good neighbors ship? well as we have already distinguished, there is a moral dimension. as a historical dimension of the facts that are not sufficiently known in germany. therefore, i warmly welcome to the fact that these 3 volumes that we have seen before are stimulating the discussion and the historical learning in germany. this is

wanda, welcome, but there's also a political instrument station of this. that is part of the election campaign for peace party. that bill nobody owns whatever. but what, what are the benches on which you are claiming? anything else? i appreciate if you don't mind good conversation. this is a very, an emotional discussion that will always pop up whenever a populace tries to instrumentalist is. so this will never go away because it's a chunk of that you can always play when you have a situation like you're isolate yourself, european faculty of nation states when you're writing session in your interpretation of law. and you're talking about the interpretation of the fact and

you're talking about the problems while you are talking about the victims of the war that was waged and which was provoked by the german nation and was never paid for those big. and so those, those crimes, and i'm, i'm advanced some of the, of a man who was, who was one of those victims. the mother of my wife was in the concentration. ne account for 2 years force to check. the weapons of the bullets for the german weapons are properly prepared. dose people were never compensated for the cry. and you are talking about the election trunk that crosses your claim. that those are the past, the maximum, which is basically what you should do. you should ok a take a look at the mall, my financial responsibility related to my oral risk. maximilian, how question to ask you if you don't mind this like this is similar in different

tens. took a different direction, particularly with russia invasion of ukraine, a if in the member back then the 1st response from potent was basically very dismissive and critical of germany saying that that the board has been to lay too slow. and when it comes to helping the frame, yes, there has been a lot of criticism from paul and many other corners on the german government response. and i share a lot of that criticism and i think it's time for berlin to show some leadership on that side. but this issue, i don't think is ultimately connected to the issue in ukraine, and of course, also after the war changed the borders in the east of fallen. i think it's really connected, more likely to these internal european disputes. we've been talking about the point of whether it's being politicized. i would just point to the fact that it tends to come up during times of tension between the on just the government and poland and

brussels and you, whether that was in 20162017, or back in 2004. when the leader of the party 1st brought up a similar commission. so i do think it's that back and you know, that being said on the historical on the. busy point it is incredibly complicated and there is undoubtedly in germany. there have also been issues with jewish people receiving compensation from the polish government over the territory. the end of the world was so much, let me think of that. it was a, well, it was there yesterday been paul. and actually welcome to the city of israel and the state of israel to join maclay because of the claims that will be addressed to the perpetrators of the 2nd world war, the germany basically. so germany is, but is the perpetrator and should be abreast of all the claims from former citizens of republic of poland should be sent to me. it was actually

sad. yesterday it was more final thing in 2004 all polish political parties. 2004, all political parties in poland voted for bill. and this bill stated clearly that polish government should prepare this document, this kind of document and address the issue with the relations straight to the german government was made by the pianist party because the party was the ruling party back in 2004. rick. now you have, this is an extraordinary moment for both love shoals and also for my tires. most of its k o of poland. do think that ultimately they will have to know forward for them to be able to maintain what they have managed to achieve over the past 2 decades, particularly building strong economic and financial relations. well, i wish they find their calling nominator to. ready one of the different

positions, not only on this case, but also in a number of others, make it relatively likely. this is given the situation that there's war in europe. and what matters last took a moment is that the west tent united and whether it is possible in a situation which the single country plays. thinking like this at this very moment remains to be seen. maximilian, there is the legacy of the 2nd wall where the comp time process or then there is also what many people think is right wing political parties in europe . weaponized, the anti germans sentiment to build some sort of an anti german alliance within the you, do you see that way? i don't see it that way. and i do think that this is, there is a political relation to the timing of this issue. but as we were saying,

i very much welcome debate and discussion both within germany and water in europe about the history of this time. and showing that the nazi crimes that were committed both in germany and unoccupied polish territory and further abroad. but on that sort of right wing front within europe and that we're seeing right now, we've actually seen a pretty big divide and merge between the polish government and the bar, right. when government, victor are bonding hungry over his relative lee, accepting approach of russia's crimes in ukraine and even going to moscow and buying more gas from gas from. so we've seen a real difference and in between countries that i think is fundamentally undermine that alliance. gentlemen, unfortunately, we're really how to leave it there because we're running out of time. in the meantime, michael, germany made financial deals with russia. and the reason for which we see this clashing in europe between different political groups. is the policy that people

oppose in many countries? we do not agree many countries to to make you rep federation. thank you, michael, to dismantle the the sovereign state. thank you. lots of people's mother. thank you . i promise you that we will revisit this topic in the near future here on inside. sorry, i really appreciate it and i thank you. thank you and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, obviously. dot com for further discussion. go to facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash ha safely. you can also join the conversation and what i'll do is add a james site for me and the entire team here in the bye for now the ah

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