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failed because of floods caused by heavy rain. all right, those are the headlines. the news continues here on al jazeera after the stream. thanks so much for watching. which side is winning chaos or control? ah, what does the new forever war mean for america and nato? as long as americans keep consuming, prices are going to keep going up. why didn't joe biden see inflation comic? how did you get so much raw? the quizzical look of us politics, the bottom line. hi, anthony. ok to day on the street. what happens when climate activists take direct action? let's take a look at a few examples from this year. we're gonna start in february activists in canada cause a millions of dollars in damage this year and what it operations on

a key work site for a multi $1000000000.00 natural gas pipeline project. in march tire extinguishes launches in the united kingdom, this leaderless group aims to make owning su v's in cities impossible. and they have deflated thousands of vehicle tires around the world. one more example for you, august climate activists in the south of france, fill golf course holes with the manx to protest, a water bad exemption for golf greens amid a severe drought saying that economic madness is taken precedence of ecological reason. so in this episode of the stream could embracing climate sabotaged help save our planet? i know you've got thoughts. i you chip comment section is live looking forward to seeing you in it was climate activities, but far outs, campaign of cried out stripes for crowds. portez on march to called in addition to comments towards the climate crisis. the government have made promises

to talk to keep in your che muslims, activists. we need to take a step further to push, because the government has not given it to all our contents. the problem is that taken that course of action would likely have the exact opposite effect. it would be a gift to the right wing opponents of climate action. who would use it? leverage it for all it's worth to accelerate their creeping fascism make. the issue politically toxic from our voters, arrests, a generation of young climate activists and so division in the climate movement itself. joining us to talk about their various degrees of activism when it comes to climate crisis. we have andreea's and ms. rena. charlotte get to have a few of you here in the stream. and as we please introduce yourself to our global audience, tell them who you are. in the cat connection of today's episode,

what do they need to know about you very briefly? well, i'm in the rails, mom. i teach human ecology. i learned university here in sweden and i guess i'm on this show because i wrote a book on how to blow up a pipeline. learning to fight in the world on fire, which advocates for sabotage on property destruction as methods that the climate movement should experiment with. now that the situation is sol diner and i think what we're seeing right now are the 1st signs of the climate movement in the global north doing this. and i think more is coming. measuring. welcome to the strain, welcome back. i should say, it's always good to have you on board. we introduce yourself to the audience. remind him who you are, what you do. thank you. my name is ester know, simon, i'm from sudan on the chair of the un secretary general's youth advisory group on climate change, an outline activist for 10 years now. it's a happy and welcome charlotte. they say hello to stream viewers around the world. tell them what you do. i am charlotte crab. i'm

a claim. it justice activist and i'm an organizer on the free just spreads team. i'm wondering, charlotte, at what point do you abandon diplomacy, climate negotiation? talking to your nemesis, perhaps talking to policy makers. he a not thinking about the future and then say i need to take direct action. when does that happen? i mean, i don't think of it as a binary. i don't think you need to abandon, you know, as the word that you chose, those other tactics and do something like property destruction. i think that we need a diversity of tactics. i think we need policy change. i think we need legal challenges . i think we need direct action. you know, i think i would be the most successful way is using a variety of tactics yet, using tactics needs to do a cost benefit analysis. you always need to see or calculate how much benefit them

going to get from using this taxes and how much the cost it goes to me and in the tactics cost more than the benefit to bring stand. it doesn't call that they can just mean that it's a failed trial address. yeah, no i, i totally agree with both of these points. and i think the, the purpose of sabotage would be to a mass greater striking force for the climate movement. and so far, we haven't really managed to inflict serious material costs on false, on capital, and that is what urgently needs to happen because the situation right now is that the more of the world burns, the more fossil fuels are poured on the fire and it just cannot go on like this, and our governments have so far, completely failed and raining in this virtually the moaning force that is bound on burning down the planet as fast as possible. and if government fail so

conspicuously than someone else has to step in and that's what people around the world are beginning to do, take action of their own. but i agree that's not a question of abandoning other tactics. it's a question of trying to put greater pressure on government to do what is necessary because on their own relation of their own accord, they're clearly incapable of doing that. they have to be put if you have a government, if you have the government in the 1st place, it. sure. i think i think coming 1st then it's just funny for me to talk about governments these days. so i'm sure you said something which contact me, which was in fact if i can fit damage on the fossil fuel industries. so if this is in your mind a battle, i'm just looking at your book that came out in 2021. how to blow up a pipeline. so it's almost like you're going to the front lines. you know, i'm not waiting any longer. the diplomacy and negotiations?

no, because the, the un climate negotiations that have been going on for 3 decades have presided over a constant increase in c o. 2 emissions. i mean c o 2 emissions globally have just continued to balloon while these negotiations have been happening, year after year. so clearly that's a massive epic failure and we can't wait for that to just continue forever. it's just dragging out and not doing anything to limit, let alone abolish business as usual. so clearly we have to do something else. i mean, i don't see how you can avoid the conclusion that we have to try something more than what we've done so far. it hasn't been enough to wait for negotiators to petition to lobby to march, to demonstrate, generally ask for politicians to listen to the science. we need to also do something more and that's, that's the face of the climate movement and the global north is and yeah, i'm,

i'm not from saddam, i'm from one of the countries that is perpetrating climate injustice on people in countries like saddam or other parts of the global south, the, i'm active in europe, which is the original cradle of the fossil economy where this whole climate crime began. and here we do have governments and what they do in, for instance, norway, the neighboring country here, is that they're just a bidding encouraging. ever expanding extraction or for santos. and there is reason money. but man of anything, andreas, the funny thing is most of the developed countries or the european countries, projects of oil and gas are actually not happening in, in these countries where you have a legal system that might actually protect the activists who do this sabotaging or blowing up the pipelines, it's happening in countries where activists can just be killed for a striking,

a in front of our, of a forest for example. so, so that's why when you talk about different tools, rage look about doing more. and i really think of different ways of more different, more as a, as, as you may say. and yes, diplomacy is being failing us as a generation and feeling that fitting the planet in actually a reaching the point that we want to reach. but if you use the to a wrong, it doesn't mean that the to have a problem. and if you plant a tree and don't irrigated, it doesn't mean that the, the tree itself or the site itself is not proper. it means that you're not taking care of it and it does to remind all of you in the negotiations or the diplomacy, or wherever is systems that people created. and people should change it as long as it's not working. instead of just trying something else. and i think as someone

who's in michigan this negotiations range, israel, it's, it's, yes, i excuse me for jumping in here. i want to bring charlotte into the conversation. charlotte, because when we talk about direct action, you know what that is like, and you have done it and they're handling repercussions. so this is the of the side of that. it's not just we are going to go out and we're going to slash tires, deflate tires, a feel golf, golf courses with cement, to stop the privilege from using water. when the rest of us con, you've actually done that direct action. and then what happened to you? yeah, i think i have done different direct actions as part of the dakota access pipeline protest. i had locked myself to horizontal drill. that was boring under the des moines river, which is a source of drinking water for $40000000.00 people. and i was trying to do the felony. i served a month in jail. i had to pay you guys $7000.00 in restitution and $65.00 per

day in jail. and i was in there and you know, i'm here to speak on behalf of my friend just who is locked up for 8 years. and i really appreciate history, your comment about the very real risks people face with this, like it's exciting to her port those, you know, tactics and i think acting outside of what has been working is important. but i think i'm here today to speak about the increased criminalization of water protectors, the increased criminalization of protesters and power c, especially in the u. s. you know, emerging of the oil and gas industry and corporate interests, as well as the government that's really pretty terrifying. to be honest, this is alicia out. he's a little bit of jessica written a check and you can tell him more about her story. but i want audience to understand that she was doing direct action on a pipeline. and she ended up coming here right now. so i think it is in prison for

a mistake, terrorism in the united states. it's have a look at part of his toy. in her statement, jessica wrote that after exhausting all avenues, the process for petitions for environmental impact statements and public comment periods to hunger strikes, marches, boycotts and civil disobedience. and she took her actions as the last resort. biden's department of justice has declared jessica and domestic terrorist sentenced her to 8 years in prison and millions of dollars and finds paid to the pipeline company. her case is important, and it's because it's not unique law specifically criminalizing environmental protests have now been passed to put on the table. and most usaa, the moment anyone seriously challenges the corporations freedom to push us closer to the class. a government uses the language of terrorism and they make you disappear. so jessica anne and her friend charlotte, they sabotaged the cut dakota access pipeline. fire bombs,

they use the soldiering unit, and for that she serving 8 years in prison as a domestic terrorist. is that not a sobering thought in terms of how do we get people's attention? how do we save our planet if the other side of that there's gel time? yeah, yeah. so just to clarify, i was not the other person. jessica acted with another woman and that was not me. the actions i spoke about were separate. oh, but it is real and jessica wesley, both the domestic terrorist and that increased her sentence fivefold. and she's just served, finished a year in prison. and she has an 8 year sentence, she has to pay $3200000.00 in restitution to energy transfer partners. the company that owns the dakota, charlie shall eat you just said that like it's like it's no big deal over $3000000.00. how doesn't normal, everyday individual come up with $3000000.00?

that's a great question. i mean, i definitely don't have an answer to that. and i think it really speaks to you know, how high the, you know, the fossil fuel industry is increasing the risk. so try to intimidate activists from acting and, you know, injustice case. this isn't random. we know exactly why this happens at this politically motivated in 2017, 84, congress members they for democrats, 80 republicans, wrote a letter to then attorney general jeff sessions asking specifically in the way of standing right protests, that people who tamper or impede with cross feel infrastructure be prosecuted as domestic terrorist. they specifically mention punctures and valves, because this is also trying to target the valve turner's and then just because prosecution or label as a device,

it is an exact answer to this letter. so we know exactly why this happened, and those $84.00 congress members who wrote this letter, they received $336000000.00 from the fossil fuel industry. so we know that the fossil fuel industry is just trying to protect their assets and the government's doing submitting to do that. and i think that, yeah, the important thing to point out here is that it's fundamentally bizarre. the jessica resonant check, who never harmed an individual, never injured anyone, never killed anyone, is labeled a terrorist when in fact, the extraction and combustion of fossil fuels are killing people on a daily basis, indiscriminately killing civilians. particularly in the global south. this we know for a fact if there is anything here that can be classified as terrorism, it should be large scale for some fuel extracts and combustion. obviously the law

us are totally skewed and twisted. so the, the, the, the presumed terrorist hare is the one who tries to destroy the machinery that destroys lives and ecosystems around the planet. so now these bridge, the andrea said as got that, so that's your moral stance on you know why this direct action is necessary. but if you have a young woman who is now serving time as a domestic terrorist does not, is not a chilling effect and makes you think twice about how do we go about getting people's attention in a productive way without landing ourselves in prison. yes. and the 1st thing we, we should think about is how do we accomplish the most without ending up in jay? how do we avoid, how do you repression? how do you yet? well, you should ask the 20 people who destroyed bath coastal gas land construction site . and british columbia that you started off with because as far as i know,

they all evaded arrest, which i think is a great thing. and you can go and, and destroy a site where a pipeline is being constructed and just get away with it. likewise, i don't know anyone in the tire extinguishers who's been arrested and i think this is a step away from the civil disobedience protocol of extinction. rebellion and other groups have made it a virtue to get rid of them. yeah, yeah, that part of our action is to almost throw ourselves into the arms of the police and end up in jail. i shot i've had enough. was that was that what you were doing because you got keep topping and you did some jail time. did you, can you a court i mean yes and you know, yeah, nobody wants the or you and we don't change a big piece of equipment so you would definitely get caught. that that was not an engine is. yeah. i mean, i think this speaks to the bigger issue of an escalation of tactics. you know,

in that case we and jessica had, you know, jessica ran with the le coats a youth during the permitting process of the army corps of engineers. and you know, i've been part of so many projects where like we submit comments as part of the i statement we, you know, whole i a statement environmental impact statement. so that's part of the primitive process i'm, you know, and so you can do it a civil disobedience outside of a place just did hunger strikes. and so there is like this escalation where you're doing things. and i think the role of direct action in this case can be to highlight an injustice that's taking place in a way that traditional media, such as like an op ed or writing it just can't, you know. and so i think highlighting how high the stakes are, is something that direct action, you know, can really bring to the situation. we bringing a new voice into our conversation, new voice that an old very well known face. leslie james, pick them in. he's

a former spokesperson for the earth liberation front. back in a day, they did a lot of sabotage. and this is lacey explaining what the purpose is. what happens when you'll successfully completing a sabotaged sabotaged mission? have a listen. it creates the scenario where there is no consequence for bad behavior in a society where there is no consequence for bad behavior. a corporation can go and cut down a forest and pollute and what have you. and at the worst, they get a find that they have no problem paying. and they just go on with business as usual . but after the earth liberation front up on the scene, thumb, you know, they have to stop and think about is what i'm doing. gonna upset these environmental is so much that i'm going to be the next target of a large scale arson attack. will my company will burned down? and if they are the target of that kind of thing, well, that's going to cost them some. several things is cost them some money and some time and some anguish and, and hopefully cause them to, you know, rethink what the,

what the, what it is that they're doing always thing a different kind of climate, savage tell. wow. and dias, friend 2 or 3 decades ago. yeah, yeah, i think the earth liberation front that was at its peak in the 1990, did not have a specific focus on climate because this was environmentalism before climate breakdown. have set in. now we have a more strategic or i think precision in the sense that we're going after primarily fossil fuel infrastructure and luxury emissions along the lines of driving su these and rich neighborhoods. and i think this is more appropriate for the current moment because the climate crisis really is. i mean obviously it's just one part of much broader ecological crosses, but it is the most urgent problem that we're facing. and then

i expect that we'll or, and i hope that we can continue to have that kind of precision rather than the kind of, you know, general assault on industrial civilization or something like that. i'm sure i'm going to bring in a new voice salad. nothing to respond, this is to mom and she is in india. she spoke just a few hours ago about a different approach to changing people's ability to act and meet me during the climate crisis is yes. the majority of about police, it is just struggling to get, but they're not bad off. the guy sees that are affecting them so far, a lot of grassroots organizations, it's motor board gate begging the vendors to communities and working on my certificate obligation for them. instead of nearly targeting the authorities under garbage, which is a much larger boxes and it is more dangerous. charlotte

thought, i mean, i appreciate what come on i said, but in terms of i like what leslie brought in in terms of accountability for these corporations. and like with the case of the dakota access pipeline, a federal judge came to rule that it operating illegally. so the permitting, the permits that the cred access pipeline had to go through are illegal, and it's operating now, it leaked multiple times within its 1st 6 months of operation. it's over 2000000 gallons of it's really made into christine wetlands. and that i think is the catch 22 of living in extractive and colonial system, where the only way to stop in the legally built pipeline in a legal way is to let it be built. and then after the fact realize that it wasn't legal to begin it, but at that point it's already built. and so i think, you know, finding ways for accountability for these corporations is important. and also not

just the corporation for also the courts. and with just that, we realized in the appeal process with her was we were challenging the domestic terrorism label. and as part of the appeal process and the appeal was denied. the judge is basically in their, to, in their decision said that we believe tested domestic terrace was a harmless error. and so what's, what's our lesson that you, we learn as an international audience, listening to jesse story is that, isn't it just that the repercussions us? oh, huge yes i sims are huge, but it's also, i think for us this is much bigger than just, you know, and that's why we're worried about emerging of the fossil fuel industry and the government. this is about a threat. i definitely. yeah, this is the kind of problem that every movement in history that has challenged,

vested interests has had face, namely a state apparatus that is totally beholden to. these vested interests. and without comes the problem of repression that you end up in jail. but i don't know of any movement in history that has struggled for emancipation and has totally evaded the problem of imprisonment or considerably worse. and clearly this is the case in congress on the global south to a much greater degree than in the north because levels of repression are much higher in countries such as india, south africa, not to mention the countries i'm not in america were environmental activists are killed on virtue a daily basis and i think the coming from india made an important point here that the new st from saddam made as well. and that is that every choice of tactics has to be adapted to the local concrete circumstances. and i'm certainly not arguing that everyone everywhere should do only sabotage,

and that is the magical bullet that will bring us to a world i'm a bit of it's been interesting listening to your perspective, charlotte as well, initially. thank you so much for being part of this conversation. so many interesting thoughts here on you cheap as well. actually says the last thing i have is people that don't even believe in climate change and don't care what's happening on the other side of the world. and that is shameful. and so watching, i see you next time, take a ah ah, with the flying a flag. but in the occupied west bank, wheezing,

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