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have a knock on effect. essential goods become more expensive because logistics expenses increase a worrying prospect for oddity who is already skipping meals banner before the price i can life was already heart now it's even more difficult. he spends an extra dollar and a half on fuel every day. it's an expense that he like millions of indonesians cannot afford jessica washington al jazeera jakarta. a man has been killed during a protest against un peacekeepers in the democratic republic of congo. demonstration happened in the city of benny. a people blocked roads and threw stones at you and staff. they say peacekeepers have not protected them from armed gangs. and wanting to leave. ah. so this is our desert. these are the top stories and the you and nuclear watchdog was the situation that the russian controls up reach a nuclear power plant. and ukraine is unsustainable. the i. e,
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a has asked for the creation of a safety zone to prevent further damage. un secretary general and tony co terrace has again on the line the need to deescalate the situation near the facility. i remain gravely concerned about the situation in and around as our bodies. your plan, including reports of recent showing. let's tell it like it is. any damage where that intentional or not to europe's largest nuclear power plantings are bodied sierra or to any other nuclear facility in ukraine could spell catastrophe. not only for the immediate vicinity, but for the region and beyond. european countries are scrambling to find alternative energy sources after russia shut down a crucial gas pipeline to the continent. the french president and manuel micron is urging every household to limit its use of gas and electricity. on monday, germany announced it will keep 2 of its remaining nuclear power stations on standby
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to battle. the energy crisis me, while china has announced it, will stop paying for gas from russia in us dollars. and we'll switch to roubles and you on instead, the agreements is another sign of stronger ties between the allies after the west imposed sanctions on russia over its war in ukraine. britain's prime minister lives truss has promised to tackle the cost of living crisis and rebuild the economy, which is also replaced. many of the top figures in orest johnson's cabinet at least 6 people were dead off the most powerful typhoon in years. hit south korea, 5 of the victims were in the city of crew hung where roads and buildings are submerged. engineers in pakistan have cut through the embankments of lake mancha, in sin province to reduce the volume of water. but it's threatening to flood properties downstream, as dozens of villages lie in its path. so people have died. thousands have
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been ordered to evacuate because of a wildfire in southern california. the fire has been fueled by high temperatures and extremely dry conditions. all right, rump state, the headlines got more news coming up here on out there. right after we join the street. i've now which side is winning payoff or control? why? what does the new forever war mean for america and nato? as long as americans keep consuming, prices are going to keep going up. why didn't joe biden see inflation comic? how did we get so much raw? the quizzical look us politics, the bottom line with high and semi ok to day on the stream. how is extreme weather change in pakistan? at the moment about 33000000 people have been impacted by very severe floods,
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genus, current monsoon season. more rain is on the way. earlier we spoke to an one car about conditions on the ground. over a 1000000 people in focused on currently do not have short dcp under the sky 1000000 more need food parcels, hygiene kids, kitchen sets and fresh water every day. many of the roads have been washed away. so the aide is taking in trucks as close as possible, some days transferred to smaller vehicles, from dates transferred even to richard bicycles, whatever. and you know, various people waiting in water and also using pulse when necessary to deliver deed . it's just to con nightmare. so a logistical nightmare for pakistan right now. but what about managing extreme weather in the future? that is our discussion. you are welcome to it. i comment section on youtube is life
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join us ah. in our conversation today, we have zane and so when i shut zane walk into the stream i am in basra via emergency room correspondence reporting on the floods in pakistan. thank you so much. hello. so when i get to have you on the screen, welcome. thank you for having me on solomon sophie, i'm the head of 5, mr. clark, sant strategic response. yet to have you and i ye show. so good to have you in this particular discussion. welcome to the stream. likewise. hi, i'm a you, she sneaker. i'm a climate and human rights advocate and research scholar at the new school. so good to have you. so i am thinking about the pressing needs right now. and the best way to sum up the pressing. these are really to be on the ground to be amongst the people and see the people i want to show you
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a little clip from some reporting that saying has just been doing, saying it is of a woman who is trying to get some food. she has a family to feed, we hear more about him just a moment, and then i'm going to ask you, what is going to happen to her? let's have a look at the clip festival. oh, this is the face of hunger soon to describe what is happening here in desperation, trivializes the extent of the suffering he spoke to for his i know she was headed into the fray. she says she had no choice. you know? oh that again, ben, would you go? no, no houses have fallen down. you don't have teens. we can't shade our children from the sun. our houses have been submerged. i swear to god, there is nothing left. all our belongings have been washed away, but we poor our children are sick. they are just sitting there saying what can
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happen to the santa that's that's, that's a very big question. what's interesting listening to that again is that for zona, like so many other people was not from the village that, that a drop was meant to be for. she'd come from another village that didn't have enough . and so a lot of the time people are accused of not being as needy as the actual needed people. so when she said, i swear to god, our house is have fallen down and we need help when she was saying was meant for the soldiers that were standing next to me to explain to them that they shouldn't be pushing her and other people away because they are just as needy as everybody else, and that's, that's a very common thing here. there, there isn't enough food to go around there just isn't. and there's all these big ideas of trying to discuss climate change of trying to discuss how we take care of
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the macro economic situation and for people like her really it's very basic. it's day to day, they're hungry, they're hungry now and they need help with their hunger and their thirst, their new clean water, they need shelter to shade themselves in the sun. they need it. now. what's going to happen to her is probably more of what you saw. you know, she, she had 5 other kids back in the village, the littlest one. she had to bring with her because she couldn't leave him behind to take care of himself. and it was, it was really harrowing for us that we were actually there right next to her when she was trying to grab the food. the camera man who was filming actually tried to stop what he was doing to try to grab the child. and that's when you saw the soldier come in and help her out of the scrum and help her with the, with the bag goods that she was getting. so it's really hard to say, i mean if i'm being totally honest, most of the people in her situation are more than likely to face more difficulties before things get better because there's just not enough food. there's just not
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enough stuff to go around. and there's too many people that need help. so why not saying reporters perspective talking to people traveling around someone you've also been traveling around with the prime minister and seeing the dire need. if so many people are hungry and now they getting really angry. the hungry and angry and cut off. how do you deal with that? are you quit to deal with as you can see on the down pockets and he's basically facing a catastrophe of unprecedented nature. i think this is one of the biggest human tragedies have said that that is occurring and south asia and pockets on it's been like, you know, the forefront of it. and as far as the question is concerned, we are not with as much as you know, we want to because this was just sudden monsoon season that just like took a, took everyone by surprise and for because of the climate change that the whole
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board is facing what unfortunately, focus on, despite contributing very little to the climate crisis in the world, has been at the forefront of this disaster. if i may, you know, not to interrupt you, not to interrupt, but i don't think you've answered the question. the question is, how is your government preparing for the future now, what it could have done to prepare for now? i know i'm getting to that. i'm just trying to explain the situation on the ground . so before i can complete the answer. so as your representative was also saying, you know, there's billions homes that has been destroyed and around 3000 miles from us that have been damaged. so it's very hard for us to reach everywhere. but we are doing the best possible that we can do, you know, n d m a n p d m a off the focus on probably the longer the national disaster management authority has been doing, you know,
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maximum ass orders that they can. prime minister has been sick and so making sure that the food of you know which, which is available twice it has been provided to the people who are something if it goes, i know you're not really true. and it's not entirely true because if a prime minister cannot even get on the ground to support his people not even touched the land that he claims to represent with his feet and throws bags of ration at them. got is not helping in full capacity. no, i don't, i disagree with that because prime minister has been visiting all the 4 provinces on a daily basis. he has been reaching wherever you can by year he has been reaching wherever he can buy ground and he cannot mentor you after what's your government's plan? after the water dissipate, what's your government plan for next week? we are working on 4 pronged approach. as we, as i was trying to explain,
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the rehabilitation is one of them. so once we tackle the full crisis and we get all the donations that we have been receiving from the partners, then we're going to be working on behalf of the station and communication, especially transportation is the number one issue. so as i'm speaking even right now, the power outages that have been in the areas are being fixed. the roads have been constructed and especially the food supplies to be maintained. so we can provide food to as many people as possible because you have to understand you know, the public and pakistan cannot even see you. i think i have no restaurant or this because the situation is unfolding on the ground. you are based in us. so i'm sure you will, you will be able to see the figures as well, but there's a half a 1000000 people in displacement gaps. so it's like a huge task. and any country in this situation would be dealing with the situation as we are non boxes and things are going to take time,
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but things are going to get shot. i'm wondering when somebody says we could not foresee this level of extreme flooding. super flood jane monsoon season as a climate activist. when someone says i could not foresee this. what is the 1st thought that comes into your head? i think that's sympathetic response. especially for a government that's thought so hard to be in power. if your country consistently is listed one of the top 10 nations to be extracted by climate change, you absolutely need to take that into account. how are you going to accomplish overland when it is flooded, when it no longer exists? and the climate change has increased heat where you can pug, front by threefold 30 percent. this government was in power when it was under heat waves. dal was on price, it entered, but then it had
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a chance to to take appropriate measures. it didn't. and now this is happening and it has a chance to take appropriate measures. but all we hear are p r c p our statement. let me go back to i don't think that's accurate. i think that's a very politically charged statement that miss i show has made or the government came into our in april or may. and the climate change has been happening for far long are you know, from that a no government like even in pakistan, are you s? are you okay. you have seen devastating floods in europe as well in europe as well . and no country has like the capacity to do, especially a country like vargas i was already facing our crippling economic issues. and the government is committed and is actually working non stop around the block in progress. and to make sure that people who are not connected get the help they need . all right, so, so my, like i said before, i'm gonna allow some of our audience. he'll watching on youtube to come in here
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zane standby, i'm going to put these questions to you. i'm gonna give you a couple because of the, the delay that we have our between me and then hearing you say on youtube, i've got 5 or sang when it comes, the government releases rehabilitation. there's a concern between about pakistan's, present government. it is in shambles. that's one thought saying, let me give you a 2nd one. this is from the v. most areas affected by the floods are still inaccessible. and because there's been damage to the infrastructure. thank. can you help me out on those 2 questions coming from our audience? sure. so i'll address the 1st question by sort of talking about what the other 2 guests were saying. as you know, as everything in progress on tends to be, it becomes everything becomes very politicized. but i can tell you on the ground right now, nobody cares about the politics of any party. those that are displaced by these floods. the people that have been, you know, whose homes have been swept away and completely destroyed,
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who are hungry right now. who haven't eaten in several days. some of them haven't eaten properly in a week. 10 days, 2 weeks. they don't care about anyone's politics. and as an example of that, we were in baluchistan province earlier today, and we met person after person in a village called a lawyer and in jennifer about district. and what people kept saying there is that we're hungry. the trickle down system is aid that goes from federal provincial to municipal, to the feudal lords, to local leaders, to the people that isn't trickling down at all or fast enough. they blame corruption. they blamed favoritism. they blamed not enough aid to go around this disparity, literally on. so people are on the sides of the road. half of the road that is filled with homeless, newly homeless people will have blue, tense sent in from china. and then the other half will not. and the reason for that is because they only wrote down 100 names to distribute that day. and the
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bureaucracy doesn't allow for any more distribution. the people that need the help don't care about any political party. one guy even said that please tell the international donors not to donate to the people donate directly to the army. they will give it to us. now, the politics of that, there's a long history there. there's a lot of problems, but what people are doing now is looking to the strongest, most well resource institution to help them because there is a deep loss of trust in the political system in their civilian leaders. and you'll find someone to blame any political party, no matter who they are right now. the flood is, is washing over all political boundaries and affecting everyone. and the level of impatience is growing. as far as infrastructure. absolutely, roads are gone, rail lines are gone. people are operating boats in what were farm fields. they have like 10 feet of water in them to try to get to villages to shuttle people back and forth for medical treatment to rescue pregnant women and take them to the hospital . so infrastructure is a serious problem, helicopters can only fly so far,
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and then doing sort hayes of food drops. it always, you know, it's, it's not working. we've seen problems with that where food aid isn't being delivered properly. and this is where, you know, the military is very good at being a military, but are comes to humanitarian relief. they need more civilian support and there isn't that level of infrastructure to help them deal with with what is truly a civilian matter. but they are the most well resource, strong strongest institution in the country and people are turning to them to expect them to help, but how far they can help they're limited in what they can do as well. so infrastructure is definitely a problem. roads have been swept away, and again there's, there's not enough space to house people and there's not enough food to go around. that we have 2 issues here, multiple issues, but 2 big problems challenges. one is right now, looking after people right now. flood survivors right now, and then preparing for the future. now you may remember that they mentioned a place that he's just been early one day called joe cope. bad. i want to show you
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is it impacts on it was what the hottest place in the country just a few weeks ago. so i'm just looking at the temperature here because it is hard for me to believe $51.00 celsius, a $121.00 fahrenheit. so you go from extreme heat, let me show you the picture here from extreme heat to flooding. let me show you the pictures. go at that. let's have a look here. so what you go from in may, is the heat wave in may with those extreme temperatures. and then in late august, we have flooding. this is going to be not an extraordinary situation, is going to be a regular situation. early on we spoke to sharing a mom. she is the federal minister for climate change for pakistan. this is what she told us. m g and g admissions are not reduced, global warming will not change in pakistan. as we build back, we surely need to adapt better in many places for climate resilience,
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but at the same time under other countries reduced emissions as promised and previous. oh god, events, climate disasters will hit frontline countries like bogus, done with increasing magnitude the dime to change that is now someone i haven't seen other countries rallying around helping for aid yet, but not thinking about the future and not maybe looking at greenhouse gases or g h d, as i share you, raymond, with step just a little bit earlier and not looking at the root cause they're trying to put a band aid on the wound. salmon. yes, absolutely. you know, as a matter of fact, box on carbon footprint is only point 5 to point one percent. but, but you know, the response off, you know, global climate change, the focus on it and receiving as you would, right. you mention the heat wave and even pockets on is rac 18 out of $191.00
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countries and inform risk index. so that's like a big implication and focus on the economy box on to security. and i would like to add, i think there was one point that was very rocky mentioned by your representative on the ground just today. you know, there was amount for 20000000000 piece that was earmarked for the flood defective. but that has been enhanced to 70000000000 today. and this is exactly what we are working with international organizations and international donors. with that, let's not put bandied on the situation like tense and food and all of that helps. but what would really need help is and building infrastructure and especially helping us with food security. and especially developing those policies, which can help countries like pockets on the goods. today's focus on tomorrow can be any other country in the neighborhood. but those countries or big countries are responsible for the most damaged climate change. they must assist countries focused on developing policies which can ensure that pocket on does not face this kind of
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a calamity. again, because we are normally not that strong. and i would even through your program, did the countries should contribute into the best program because that is your mark just for the side effect you going forward from today. and 70000000000 has been given from the government, but the more we have, the more will be able to display should be affected. and especially by developing and making the homes for people who have lost their homes by materials which are easily available and which can be constructed rather than like brick and mortar. so that is our number one concern, especially, you know, as a brain lead is our main issue right now because most of the land which is under water, i'm sorry, i think go ahead. if i could, those are those sound like really good, big, important, big ideas, but i can't put a finer point on this. those are it, it's, it doesn't help anyone discussing those things. now because the people we've spoken
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to, they're literally surviving day to day, in some cases, one meal to the next within a span of a few hours. right now, discussing new policy, big infrastructural changes, all of this very big top, heavy bureaucratic stuff is not saving lives right now. there are serious considerations i was talking about like, over in baluchistan and all over the country, literally living in camps and on the sides of the road. i'd like to give you an example. if i could, i'd like to give you an example of how at risk a lot of these people are. they need immediate help. they need security of any food banks. they need enclosed 10 cities with actual security. we met a mother in below just on sitting on a 4 post rope bed in front of a tent on the side of the street. and she, her husband is, is, is like a construction worker, a builder, a labor. she goes out onto the street begging, and then they sweep out in the open because there might home was washed away by the floods. at night a week ago,
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her 3 year old daughter was taken away from her. she was sleeping and her daughter was kidnapped because they were out in the open. she said if she had a home to live in, it wouldn't have happened. she doesn't know if someone kidnapped her, that's what she suspects. but she thinks she's a 3 year old. she may have wandered off and fallen into the nearby flood, standing flood water and drowned, but nobody's have come up yet. and she says she just wants to know what happened, not knowing is worse than finding her dead body. so there are real risks posed imminent risk posed to people that are here right now. is there any big idea if i can perhaps down the line, but right now i need immediate response. so i'm hoping that that's not happening and hold tight for me because they can't hear you because of the that the movement between where he is and where you will. if i may, i'm just going to push on a little bit cuz i don't want to get stuck on one point zane you have made that point very clearly. people are hungry and they need to be that they need food to get to them. i want to bring in shows up here who has an idea of this can't be the
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status quo. things have to change. i asia will you haven't listened to shows ab and then abdul thought immediately of the back of it. he's treasure. given that bike hassan's image to ruben, the global a lead won't be personally affected by these floods in the long term. we can't expect visa leads to bring about those fundamental changes. those investments in help housing and flood mitigation infrastructure that would lessen the long term impact of these floods. those fundamental changes, if they do come, we'll come from below, from amongst the poor, from amongst progressive forces. and we're already seeing this mobilization from below with calls for climate reparations, but also with a glory critique amongst the poor of pakistan's leads for their enduring disregard, ordinary box and people. and every time zane opens his mouth, my heart starts racing because i don't think there so mind even i to the point of
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our absolutely emotional. this is the entire country. and one 3rd of it is under water and 33000000 people are sucked. it is only going to get worse. scientifically speaking, the water will not evaporate for 2 months. when it does not evaporate, mosquitoes are going to come. that means that there's going to be more malaria, more color, more daily fever. our health care infrastructure is already enrolled. it's going to cause a what is already a massive crisis to get into another massive crisis. you began this panel by saying that hungry people get angry, hungry people are already angry. they're furious. yes, they don't care who is in power. what they need is immediate relief. and if a minister and somebody who is claiming to represent international relations cannot even give you a plan for next week than me. and so we are in
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a gig or a situation than we started with um in regards to climate change. yes, it's been going on for a long time, but that also means it, it is the responsibility of the government in power to put in plans appropriate enough to combat climate change. the global north has contributed limited funds to the people of august sun. that is also a true multiple can exist at the same time. lawson damage finance was committed in 2009. that is $9000000000.00 a year by the united states and the european nations shall come to the people in pakistan. i shall, we are at the end of this show. we are not at the end of this conversation. obviously though, so much more to talk about. so i want them when i asia, so my, i don't have points time to allow you to do that, but i want to bring in one more thought here we will get you back because this is not a 25 minute conversation and then we're done. so i just want to bring in one thought
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here from alley to day, it's pakistan to morrow could be any other nation. that's all take climate change as a personal responsibility. every action counts. this conversation is not over. how will pakistan handle climate change and extreme weather? we will see as we go forward into the future. thanks for watching. see you next time. ah, we are all principals. even people far away are also helping with the environment, problems in the amazon because their consumers i teach kids about the oceans are facing today. i've been working in earnest, trying to find ways to get this language up to get one to wait, do as the ocean. why and what are you going to do to keep out of the sort of language that keeps the red blood women, right?
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