tv The Stream Al Jazeera September 7, 2022 11:30am-12:01pm AST
11:30 am
victim, while rob elementary school awaits demolition, its former students are being hosted by other schools and you've all day. 33 texas officers will be tasked with monitoring the schools around the district. some parents are worried that some of the officers responsible for their children's safety now are the same officers who they said didn't do their jobs right. during the shooting angel of yes guys is with fierce mothers, a group of hispanic women advocating for gun control and accountability. they just knew that the 1st day was coming and they still didn't do anything to rush to get it, get everything in place. so it's, it's, it's, it's almost a joke you've all day residents we spoke to seem divided over who's at fault. but fiascos is firm and her opinion of fierce mind that is a fully puts it on, on the establishment. the culture, like, like it was a hiring failure to me, like the culture here is the good old boys. as students had back the campuses,
11:31 am
there resilience is clear to 3. they seem happy to see their classmates and came to start fresh. and while children show us how strong they can be, the adults are determined to keep up the fight and keep a close eye on what's being done about their safety. renee day al jazeera, you've all day, texas. ah, hello, are you watching out his ear? these are the top stories this hour. i am a rock supreme court. he said to rule on an application for parliament to be dissolved politicians allied to influential. she eyed lady montana elsa re father petition last month after a previous request was rejected. him ranken has more from baghdad. the court will start this session. the judges will deliberate. now they did to start doing this on august the 3rd, yet they made the decision on august 30th to postpone it. until today. we don't know whether they will make that decision to dissolve parliament. certainly. that's
11:32 am
what the southern swamps. there's been this political impasse in iraq, but and month now president vladimir putin has called sanctions against russia. a danger to the world. speaking at the east, in the economic form of lead, a vote style component accused the west of undermining the global economy. britons do prime minister lives trustee is about to hold her 1st cabinet meeting and day after taking over from barnes johnson. she's promised to cut taxes, tackle the cost of living and rebuild the economy trans has promoted m. p. 's, who backed her ladyship campaign was quite st. has been made, chancellor of the exchequer and to al abraham, and is now home secretary, rescue and relief operations of taking place in the southern indian city of bengal . lou after torrential rain months in rain that began on sunday, swept the city. that's in his tech hub. because in flooding, the city is facing traffic chaos, power outages and shortages of drinking water. and the palestinian man has been
11:33 am
killed by israeli forces in the fara refugee camp in the occupied west bank. alice times health ministry says israeli forces short 21 year old eunice gus on tire in a don't rate. alright, those are the headlines states you now for the stream. which side is winning chaos or control? oh, what does the new forever war mean for america and nato? as long as americans keep consuming prices are going to keep going up. why didn't joe biden see inflation comic? how did we get so much raw? the quizzical look of us politics. the bottom line with high and semi ok today on the stream. how is extreme weather change in pakistan? at the moment about 33000000 people have been impacted by very severe floods during
11:34 am
this current monsoon season. more rain is on the way. earlier we spoke to add one con about conditions on the ground. over a 1000000 people in buck is done currently do not have shoot. keeping under the sky 1000000 small need food parcels, hygiene kids kitchen sits and fresh water every day. many of the roads have been washed away. so the aide is taking in trucks as close as possible from these transfer to smaller vehicles, from the transfer even to richer bicycles, whatever. and in other areas, people waiting in water and also using pulse when necessary to deliver deed logistical nightmare. so a logistical nightmare for pakistan right now. but what about managing extreme weather in the future? that is our discussion. you are welcome to it. i comment section on youtube is life
11:35 am
join us ah. in our conversation today, we have zane and so when i issue zane it welcome to the stream i am in basra via emergency room correspondent reporting on the floods in pakistan . thank you so much. hello. so when get to have you on the screen. welcome. thank you for having me on solomon sophie on the head of 5, mr. clark, sant strategic response, yet to have you and i, you show so good to have you in this particular discussion. welcome to the stream. likewise. hi, i'm anxious, enrica, i'm a climate and human rights advocate in an research scholar at the new school. what so good to have you. so i am thinking about the pressing needs right now. and the best way to sum up the pressing. these are really to be on the ground to be amongst the people and see the people i want to show you
11:36 am
a little clip from some reporting that saying has just been doing, saying it is of a woman who is trying to get some food. she has a family to feed. we're hear more about home just the moment and then i'm going to ask you, what is going to happen to her? let's have a look at the clip festival. oh, this is the face of hunger said to describe what is happening here as desperation. trivializes the extent of the suffering he spoke to for his i know she was headed into the fray. she says she had no choice. you know? oh that again, ben, would you wanna go? now? houses have fallen down. you don't have teens. we can't shade our children from the sun. all houses have been submerged. i swear to god, there is nothing left. all our belongings have been washed away, but we poor our children are sick. they are just sitting near them. what's gonna
11:37 am
happen to the santa that's that's, that's a very big question. what's interesting listening to that again is that for zona, like so many other people was not from the village that, that a drop was meant to be for. she'd come from another village that didn't have enough . and so a lot of the time people are accused of not being as needy as the actual needy people. so when she said, i swear to god or houses have fallen down and we need help when she was saying was meant for the soldiers that were standing next to me to explain to them that they shouldn't be pushing her and other people away because they are just as needy as everybody else. and that's, that's a very common thing here. there, there isn't enough food to go around there just isn't. and there's all these big ideas of trying to discuss climate change of trying to discuss how we take care of
11:38 am
the macro economic situation and for people like her really it's very basic, it's day to day, they're hungry, they're hungry now and they need help with their hunger and their thirst there been a clean water. they need shelter to shade themselves in the sun. they need it now. what's going to happen to her is probably more of what you saw. you know, she, she had 5 other kids back in the village, the littlest one. she had to bring with her because she couldn't leave him behind to take care of himself. and it was, it was really harrowing for us that we were actually there right next to her when she was trying to grab the food. the camera man who was filming actually tried to stop and he was doing to try to grab the child. and that's when you saw the soldier come in and help her out of the scrum and help her with the, with the bag goods that she was getting. so it's really hard to say, i mean if i'm being totally honest, most of the people in her situation are more than likely to face more difficulties before things get better because there's just not enough food. there's just not
11:39 am
enough stuff to go around. and there's too many people that need help. so why not saying reporters perspective talking to people traveling around someone you've also been traveling around with the prime minister and seeing the dire need. if so many people are hungry and now they're getting really angry. so hungry and angry and cut off. how do you deal with that? are you quick to deal with as you can see under down pockets and he's basically facing a catastrophe. unprecedented. you know, nature, i think this is one of the biggest human tragedies that is occurring and south asia and focus on it's been like, you know, the forefront of it. and as far as your question is concerned, we are not equipped as much as, you know. we want to because this was just, i didn't see them that just like i took everyone by surprise and for because of the
11:40 am
climate change that the whole board is facing. but unfortunately, focused on, despite contributing very little to the climate crisis in the world, has been at the forefront of this disaster. if i may, you know, not to interrupt you, not to interrupt, but i don't think you've answered the question. the question is, how is your government preparing for the future? not what it could have done to prepare for now. i know i'm getting to that. i'm just trying to explain the situation on the ground. so before i can complete the answer. so as your representative was also saying, you know, there's a home that has been destroyed and around 3000 miles from us that have been damaged . so it's very hard for us to reach everywhere. but we are doing the best possible that we can do, you know, n d a, me and me off the focus on probably the longer the national disaster management authority has been doing, you know,
11:41 am
maximum ass orders that they can prime minister has. and so making sure that the food you know, which, which is available twice it has been provided to the people who are something if you're carly true. and it's not entirely true. because if a prime minister cannot even get on the ground to support his people not even touched the land that he claims to represent with his feet and throws bags of ration at them. got is not helping in full capacity. no, i don't. i disagree with that because prime minister has been visiting all the 4 provinces on a daily basis. he has been reaching wherever you can by year he has been reaching wherever he can buy ground and he cannot mentor you after what's your government's plan after the water dissipate? what's your government plan for next week? ah, we are working on or pronged approach as lee, as i was trying to explain,
11:42 am
the rehabilitation is one of them. so once we tackled with the food crisis and we get all the donations that we have been receiving from the world partners, then we're gonna be working on rehabilitation and communication. and especially transportation is the number one issue. so as i'm speaking even right now, are the power outages that have been in the areas are being faced. the roads have been constructed and especially the food supplies trying to maintain. so we can provide to as many people as possible because you have to understand all the public and pakistan cannot even see you. i think i have no rep for this. ah, because the situation is unfolding on the gout you are based in us. so i'm sure when you was at burgess and you'll be able to see the figures as well, but there's around half a 1000000 people in displacement. so it's like a huge task. and in any country in this situation would be dealing with the situation. as we are right now in boxes and things are going to take time,
11:43 am
but things are going to get better isha i, i'm wondering when somebody says we could not foresee this level of extreme flooding. super flood j monsoon season, as a climate activist. when someone says i could not foresee this, what is the 1st thought that comes into your head? i think that sympathetic response, especially for our, our government, that font so hard to be in power. if your country consistently is less than one of the top 10 nations can be affected by climate change, you absolutely need to take that into account. how are you going to cover? no greenland, when it is flooded, when it no longer exists and the climate change has increased, heat williamson found it signed by threefold. 30 percent. this government was in power when it was under heat waves. dal was on press, it entered, but then it had
11:44 am
a chance 10 to take appropriate measures. it didn't. and now this is happening and it has a chance to take appropriate measures. but all we hear our peers here are statements . let me go back. so i don't think that's accurate. i think that's a very politically charged statement that miss i show has made or the government came into our in april or may. and the climate change has been happening for far longer. you know from that no government like, even in pakistan, are you s, are you ok? you have seen devastating floods in europe as well in europe as well. and no country has like the capacity to do, especially a country like vargas i was already facing our crippling economic issues. and the government is committed and is actually working nonstop around the block in progress. and to make sure that people who are not shocked it get to help me. all right, so, so my, like i said before, i'm gonna allow some of our audience here watching when you cheat to come in here
11:45 am
zane standby, i'm going to put these questions to you. i'm gonna give you a couple because of the, the delay that we have a between me and then hearing you say on youtube, i've got 5 or sang when it comes, the government releases rehabilitation. there's a concern between about pakistan's, present government. it is in shambles. that's one thought saying, let me give you a 2nd one. this is from the v. most areas affected by the floods are still inaccessible. and because there's been damage to the infrastructure. thank. can you help me out on those 2 questions coming from audience? sure. so i'll address the 1st question by sort of talking about what the other 2 guests were saying. as you know, as everything in progress on tends to be, it becomes everything becomes very politicized. but i can tell you on the ground right now, nobody cares about the politics of any party. those that are displaced by these floods. the people that have been, you know, whose homes have been swept away and completely destroyed,
11:46 am
who are hungry right now. who haven't eaten in several days. some of them haven't eaten properly in a week. 10 days, 2 weeks. they don't care about anyone's politics. and as an example of that, we were in below just on province earlier today. and we met person after person in a village called a lawyer and in just about district. and what people kept saying there is that we're hungry. the trickle down system is aid that goes from federal, provincial to municipal, to the feudal lords, to local leaders, to the people that isn't trickling down at all or fast enough. they blame corruption, they blame favoritism. they blamed not enough aid to go around this disparity, literally on. so people are on the sides of the road. half of the road that is filled with homeless, newly homeless people will have blue $0.10 in from china. and then the other half will not. and the reason for that is because they only wrote down a 100 names to distribute that day. and the bureaucracy doesn't allow for any more
11:47 am
distribution. the people that need the help don't care about any political party. one guy even said that please tell the international donors not to donate to the people donate directly to the army. they will give it to us. now the politics is that there's a long history there. there's a lot of problems, but what people are doing now is looking to the strongest, most well resource institution to help them because there is a deep loss of trust in the political system in their civilian leaders. and you'll find someone to blame any political party, no matter who they are right now. the flood is, is washing over all political boundaries and affecting everyone. and the level of impatience is growing. as far as infrastructure. absolutely, roads are gone, rail lines are gone. people are operating boats in what were farm fields. they have like 10 feet of water in them to try to get to villages to shuttle people back and forth for medical treatment to rescue pregnant women and take them to the hospital . so infrastructure is a serious problem, helicopters can only fly so far,
11:48 am
and then doing sort of food drops it, it always, you know, it's, it's not working. we've seen problems with that where food aid isn't being delivered properly. and this is where, you know, the military is very good at being a military, but it comes to humanitarian relief. they need more civilian support and there isn't that level of infrastructure to help them deal with with what is truly a civilian matter. but they are the most well resource, strong strongest institution in the country and people are turning to them to expect them to help, but how far they can help. they're limited in what they can do as well. so infrastructure is definitely a problem. roads have been swept away, and again there's, there's not enough space to house people and there's not enough food to go around. that we have 2 issues here, multiple issues, but 2 big problems challenges. one is right now, looking after people right now. flood survivors right now, and then preparing for the future that you may remember that they mentioned a place that he's just been early one day called joe cope. bad. i want to show you
11:49 am
is it impacts on the it was what the hottest place in the country just a few weeks ago. so i'm just looking at the temperature here because it is hard for me to believe $51.00 celsius, a $121.00 fahrenheit. so you go from extreme heat, let me show you the picture here from extreme heat to flooding. let me show you the pictures. go ahead. let's, let's have a look here that what you go from it in may, is the heat wave in may with those extreme temperatures. and then in late august, we have flooding. this is going to be not an extraordinary situation is going to be a regular situation. early on we spoke to sharing a mom. she is the federal minister for climate change for pakistan. this is what she told us. m g g emissions are not reduced, global warming will not change in pakistan. as we build back. we surely need to adapt better in many places for climate resilience,
11:50 am
but at the same time under other countries reduced emissions as promised and previous. oh god, events, climate disasters will hit frontline countries like barcas done with increasing magnitude that dime to change that is now someone i haven't seen other countries rallying around helping for aid. yes, but not thinking about the future and not maybe looking at and greenhouse gases or g h d, as, as sherry roman with step just a little bit earlier and not looking at the root cause. they're trying to put a band aid on the wound, simon. yes, absolutely. you know, as a matter of fact, box on carbon footprint is only point 5 to point one percent. but, but you know, the response off, you know, low but you know, climate change that pockets and has been receiving as you would mention, the heat wave and even pockets on is rac 18 out of 191 countries and inform risk
11:51 am
and back. so that's like a big implication and focus on the economy box on soup security. and i would like to add, i think there was one point that was very rocky mentioned by your representative on the ground just today did was amount for 20000000000 repeat that was earmarked for the flood effect. but that has been enhanced to 70000000000 today. and this is exactly what we are working with international organizations and international donors with that, let's not put bandy on the situation like tense and food and all of that helps. but what would really need help is and building infrastructure and especially helping us with food security. and especially developing those policies, which can help countries like pockets on the goods. today's focus on tomorrow can be any other country in the neighborhood. but those countries or big countries are responsible for the most damaged climate change. they must assist countries focused on developing what's policies which can ensure that pocket on does not face this
11:52 am
kind of a calamity. again, because we are normally not that strong. and i would even through your program that the countries should contribute into the best program because that is your mark just for the flood to fact you going forward from today. and 70000000000 has been given from the government, but the more we have the more will be able to displace the defective. and especially by developing and making the homes for people who have lost their homes by materials which are easily available and which can be constructed rather than like, you know, brick and mortar. so that is our number one concern, especially, you know, as a brain beat is our main issue right now, because more like a land which is under water. i'm sorry, go ahead. if i could, those are those sound like really good, big, important, big ideas. but i can't put a finer point on this. those are it, it's, it doesn't help anyone discussing those things now because the people we've spoken
11:53 am
to, they're literally surviving day to day, in some cases, one meal to the next within a span of a few hours. right? now discussing new policy, big infrastructural changes, all of this very big top, heavy bureaucratic stuff is not saving lives right now. there are serious considerations talking like over the baluchistan and all over the country. literally living in camps and on the sides of the road. i'd like to give you an example. if i could, i'd like to give you an example of how at risk a lot of these people are. they need immediate help. they need security of any food banks. they need enclosed 10 cities with actual security. we met a mother in baluchistan, sitting on a 4 post rope bed in front of a tent on the side of the street. and as she, her husband is, is like a construction worker, a builder, a labor. she goes out onto the street begging. and then they sweep out in the open because there might home was washed away by the floods. at night a week ago,
11:54 am
her 3 year old daughter was taken away from her. she was sleeping, and her daughter was kidnapped because they were out in the open. she said if she had a home to live in, it wouldn't have happened. she doesn't know if someone kidnapped her, that's what she suspects. but she thinks she's a 3 year old. she may have wandered off and fallen into the nearby flood, standing flood water and drowned, but no bodies have come up yet. and she says she just wants to know what happened, not knowing is worse than finding her dead body. so there are real risks posed imminent risk posed to people that are here right now. is there any big idea if i can perhaps down the line? but right now i need immediate response. so i'm hoping that that's not happening and hold tight for me because they can't hear you because of the, the, the movement between where he is and where you will. if i ma'am, just going to push on a little bit cuz i don't wanna get stuck on one point zane, you have made that point very clearly. people are hungry and they need to be that they need food to get to them. i want to bring in shows up here who has an idea of
11:55 am
this can't be the status quo, things have to change. i asia, will you have a listen to shows up and then outdoor thought immediately off the back of it. his shadow given that back assigns emitter, even the global lead won't be personally affected by these floods in the long term . we can't expect visa leads to bring about those fundamental changes. those investments in health, housing, and flood mitigation infrastructure that would lessen the long term impact of these floods. those fundamental changes, if they do come, we'll come from below, from amongst the poor, from amongst progressive forces. and we're already seeing this mobilization from below with calls for climate reparations, but also with a glory critique amongst the poor of pakistan's. walker leads for their enduring disregard, ordinary parks and the people and every time zane opened his mouth, my heart starts racing because i don't think there. so mine,
11:56 am
even i to the point of how absolutely emotional this is the entire country. and one 3rd of it is under water and 33000000 people are sucked. it is only going to get worse. scientifically speaking, the water will not evaporate for 2 months. when it does not evaporate, mosquitoes are going to come. that means that there's going to be more malaria, more color, more daily fever. our health care infrastructure is already in ruins. it's going to cause what is already a massive crisis to get into another massive crisis. you began this panel by saying that hungry people get angry, hungry people are already angry. they're furious. yes, they don't care who is in power. what they need is immediate relief. and if a minister and somebody who is claiming to represent international relations cannot even give you a plan for next week than me. and so we are in
11:57 am
a game or a situation than we started with in regards to climate change. yes, it's been going on for a long time, but that also means that it is the responsibility of the government in power to put in plans appropriate enough to combat climate change. the global north has contributed limited funds to the people of fog, a son that is also a true multiple can exist at the same time. lawson damage finance was committed in 2009. that is $9000000000.00 a year by the united states and the european nations shall come to the people and fog a son. are you sure we are at the end of this show? we are not at the end of this conversation. obviously though, so much more to talk about. so i want them when i asia so much i don't have points time to allow you to do that, but i want to bring in one more thought here we will get you back because this is not a 25 minute conversation and then we're done. so i just want to bring in one thought,
11:58 am
here from ali to day. it's pakistan to morrow could be any other nation. that's all take climate change as a personal responsibility. every action counts. this conversation is not over. how will pakistan handle climate change and extreme weather? we will see as we go forward into the future. thanks for watching. see you next time. ah, this is architect by john now his self appointed title to create sustainable housing for the rural poll. to bring tropical beauty back into vietnam's, choking ab and space and to convince developments that his dreams are attainable. but changing minds can be as hard as altering spaces. rebel architecture continues with cleaning the city anal disease
11:59 am
12:00 pm
exclusive stories, explosive results, al jazeera investigations, iraq, a nation where women's chastity is seen as central to its patriarchal identity. but out of sight, human trafficking for prosecution is on the rise table of power talks the survivors and goes behind the scenes with a dedicated police squad working to bring the perpetrators to justice. iraq human trafficking on a j 0 ah iraq supreme court, he's expected to rule on a petition to dissolve parliament after months of political deadlock.
22 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on