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pick them up from, from there, and as they speak right now, these are playground way or they did bodies, i've actually been assembled and i post marked him team has come from that district of a to be able to conduct the assessment rather the post mortem mind i'm so show that behind to go back to their families for barriers today. it's quite said that it's likely that normal people might 4, but might be found life because those who were injured actually, the 6 of them were referred to today in the morning to hospital. but then the community may show that 18 people had been missing. so meaning if we've gotten a boat 15, so we envisage maybe a likelihood of 3 more people. but it's not possible that there before the life considering that kind of tragedy. and that you spent unforeseen. so most likely the such and rescue is knowing to dig deep into much and it's not likely that somebody is alive from the time of the intact for now. ok.
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hello you, what? you know, there are these, the top stories this our britain's new prime minister has been answering her 1st prime minister's questions in parliament. she's been grilled by the later of the position about soaring energy bills and the high cost of living during their 1st exchange trust route out of tax on energy companies, profiting from foreign prices to speak once you set in our leadership campaign. so she was against winful taxes. did she mean it? yeah, i am against a winful tack. i believe it is the wrong thing to be, to be putting companies off investing in the united kingdom just to be growing the economy. meanwhile, the european commission has amounts to plan to tackle the energy crisis. it includes proposing price caps on russian gas to control storing energy prices. and
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set to rule on an application to dissolve parliament. politicians allied with influential she a later time to el satta, we filed a petition last month after a previous request was rejected. alright, those are the headlines. i'm emily angle in the news continues here on al jazeera of the inside story. ah, israel's military concludes, one of its soldiers may have accidentally killed al jazeera journalist, sharina watley, but they won't be a criminal investigation showing family, says israel is obscuring the truth. so how can this case move forward? this is insight story. ah
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully battle. 4 months after the killing of al jazeera correspondent, sharina blackly. israel's military has finally released the results of its investigation. it found there was a high probability that on israel soldier accidentally shot dead, the palestinian american journalist. but there'll be no criminal investigation and no one will be punished. al jazeera has accuses really military of trying to evade responsibility. the network palestinian officials entering family are old, demanding, and independent and international investigation. is really findings contradict accounts by witnesses all told al jazeera, they were never contacted by these really investigators or bringing our guests in just a moment. but 1st this report from natasha. go name in ramallah in the occupied westbank
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. the pursuit of justice for serene abu clay within israel ended on monday. as widely expected, the israeli military announced its soldiers did not violate procedure, and there will be no criminal investigation into her killing while on assignment in the janine refugee camp in may. a senior military official offered condolences and called sharon's death, a devastating loss of life. the military report concluded that after multiple internal investigations, there was a high probability and his really soldier accidentally shot serene. but it could not be determined conclusively. the official says with 100 percent certainty is really soldiers did not target serene or any other journalist that day. and if in israeli bullet killed her, it was a mistake. but that then will then it's not convincing. it's unacceptable. there's
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no other suspect, but the occupation army murdered cheering. the military describes, the janine refugee camp on the day serene was killed as a battle field. it says there was a prolonged gun battle with armed palestinians. the soldiers retreated to vehicles and the military official says they had limited visibility and did not see sharina just video from the minutes before sharon's death show a com seen. she was wearing a clearly marked blue press, black jacket that she was shot in the back of the neck below her helmet, even as she collapsed to the ground. witnesses who tried to assist her say, the gunfire continued. shooting to how willoughby has become an international symbol, and that is why her blood became a heavy burden and criminal, political, and diplomatic terms. they can't handle this. that is why they're trying to manage the fall out of her murder. sharon's family says it's obvious israeli war criminals
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can't investigate their own crimes. it's calling on the u. s. to conduct an independent and credible investigation into the palestinian american journalists killing. the palestinian authority says it's pressing international bodies for accountability and l. g. zero's legal team plans to submit a case with the international criminal court at the hague sharon's case may be closed for the israeli military, but her family says our dear, serene, cannot be swept aside. natasha name else's era ramallah. while israel has change its statement several times since the shooting hours after charades death, these really government began circulating video and social media suggesting the idea she may have been shot by a palestinian fighter. 2 days later, a change at account saying it's possible one of his soldiers may have killed her.
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and in the weeks that followed several independent media outlets concluded, it's likely sharon was killed by an israeli soldier on july 4th. the us said it to believe serene was lightly killed by an israeli soldier, but added there is no evidence. she was deliberately targeted 2 months after that statement and a $117.00 days after the shooting. israel finally acknowledged serene was likely killed by one of its soldiers. while sharon's family wants the us to investigate her killing her niece says they believe is ready. forces targeted her aunts as a family. we are not surprised. this is something that was expected from the israeli side. it's definitely outrageous. it's however expected. but for us, it was never both in israeli investigation for us. it has always been about a us independent investigation. at the end of the day,
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you cannot have work criminal, investigating their own crimes from day one. we've known that shooting or car gets it and killed by an israeli soldier. so for us, so these are men, be nothing but statements obscuring the true and continuing to spread this information. ah, no, spring in august now in washington, d. c. omar butter, a political analysts and member of the national policy council of the arab american institute in high 5000 zire, palestinian human rights lawyer was litigated on behalf of palestinians at these really supreme court. and in the turkish time of year leacock, richard falk, professor emeritus at princeton university and a former un special opportune for the occupied palestinian territories. thank you all very much for being with us on inside story. south sun in high for let me start
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with you. if i can and knowledge men from israel finally, but not a full admission, what is your reaction? is there anything at all credible or convincing in these is really findings? well, 1st of all, i agree with the responses from the palestinian side on the international side, on the fact that the result of the israeli investigation is totally not a surprise. it came late and in a huge delay. although not surprising. however, as the human rights lawyer and due to the fact that there has been requested by the palestinian authority submitted to the i. c. c. demanding, requesting an opening off investigation on the murder of sharing a blog. i think in my perspective, that the results of the israeli investigation has to do a lot with the defense argument by israel in case the i c. c decides tolben
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carbonell investigation. and how is that when, when, when a state or are, or an claims that the shooting probably has been conducted by one of cultures. but there has been no intent. and that there has been an immediate spread to the life of the that soldier and that there was no violation of not in any regulation. this is basically a package of an argument that will be delivered in order not to provide any accountability in order to say that it was done in the defense. and that there was no illegality to the sure thing that's on the criminal level, right? but also on the, on the top plus that's important to fully not people are speaking on the level a, everyone is criminal level also on the system level. israel has
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a specific that it also had applied not only was mine, but also does not that basically eliminate the right of any god. i was as well to submit towards the claim for damages conducted by the way, the full jersey in case it's a war time. so having no intent in the israel does not want to compensate compensation, right. neither does it say any criminal responsibility before the interesting that you point out that the civil level where you say, because they have been some suggestions that a civil case in the u. s. could be one of the avenues also that the family could perceive. we'll come back to that in just a moment. i want to bring in richard fox for your thoughts, richard on these is really findings. what do you make of this israeli line of defense as south and what is missing from this investigation in your view where it totally missed the israeli pattern of abuse of power
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in journalist which sharing abo clays, killing is just the most dramatic example. and the fact that he happens to be an american citizens brings greater tension or in the wider current. israel has a terrible record of the way in which it mistreats colonel, doing their professional work. and that should have been part of the context in which this particular killing was addressed. i will make one other point that i think is very important. and that is to try to call for a us investigation may be desirable and giving the
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pace a little more visibility. but i wouldn't trust the us morgan, henry and morgan, the israeli, investigate another word. it is committed the overall ha, hi. been israel. human rights violations and i would have pulled for an independent international investigation by red who the blow international public crate here. yeah. interesting because as the, as you say and, and as we've heard, the family of sharon is asking for a u. s. investigation. i want to come to you now, ah, omar in washington, d. c. but before i ask you for your thoughts about this investigation, i want to read to you and to our view as this fate departments reaction to the israeli investigation. chevron of course, was an american citizen and the u. s. has been under pressure to conduct its own
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investigation. while the state department said we welcome is roused review of this tragic incident and again underscore the importance of accountability in this case such as policies and procedures to prevent similar incidents from occurring in the future. omar in washington, dc, ah, the u. s. reaction certainly is an interesting one here, essentially says if i, you know, read into it, please make sure it doesn't happen again. it is this case closed. do you think as far as the americans that consent? well, certainly the biden administration would like it to be closed. i mean, it's quite obvious, i think, as, as our previous guess have pointed out is that the united states is trying to assist israel and cover him up this crime. and we should be clear about the fact that she read was murder. she wasn't just killed. i mean, when you look at the repeated investigation showing that she was the target of sniper fire at a time when she was wearing a helmet and oppress best. that had a ride between the spot where there was a tiny opening and that repeated fire in that direction led the sienna
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investigation to conclude that it was a targeted killing of city. and i think is really, really noteworthy. and as we saw israel was trying to avoid responsibility entirely by initially blaming palestinian gunmen. and it's only in the face of overwhelming evidence where they forced to admit that they may have had something to do with it . but honestly, the, that the button administration's response really is a moral failure, a failure to protect american citizens. i mean, you can only imagine as a scenario in which armed intruders break into someone's home and kill a loved one with a precision weapons. and actually they claimed they had nothing to do with it, but then in the face of evidence they, it's proven that they're the ones who killed that person and then the judge says, oh thank you so much for for admitting your mistake. and please make sure that your future home invasions don't fall. you change your procedures to make sure that your future invasions don't result in the same outcome. that's just completely absurd. israel's military presence on the palestinian territories is itself a crime. the occupations purpose is to steal land. it entails a great deal of violence,
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of ongoing war crimes and crimes against humanity. and that, and journalist was killed in the process of carrying out the brutality of this occupation is no surprised. and what's called on from the bite, an administration is real and meaningful accountability. first, looking at the $3800000000.00 and military funding that the u. s. gives israel every year. in essence, the united states is complicit in israel's atrocities that are committed against the palestinians. and the biden administration's attempt to just covered that up and, and move on like its nothing. it is something that really will not be judged kindly . suddenly, american lawmakers have been trying to put pressure on the, by an administration, omar i, members of congress and so on. isn't going to have any impacts. he think. i think it already has had some impact in terms of changing the public discourse on this issue. for the longest time, you could not say anything about palestinian human rights and american discourse in washington in the media and so on. and that has changed. public opinion has changed in a very, very drastic way in the united states. that now you have more and more members of
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congress willing to stand up and demand accountability. and i think that is placing pressure on the, on the u. s. administration to start behaving differently when it comes to israel, palestine. unfortunately, i don't think it has reached the point where that pressure is going to result in a meaningful policy change. but we're seeing the beginnings of that we're seeing that the fighting, the ministration cannot simply be silent about this entire issue. and they are feeling the heat and they should be feeling the heat. and the hope that this pressure will one day lead to a genuine and meaningful policy change that the united states no longer gets israel . this black check to do whatever it wants to the palestinians as if they're not human beings. they have to be treated as equal human beings who are deserving of the same rights that israelis enjoy as well. so often your thoughts about this american investigation that sharina family is asking for. can you read some sort of truth and get some type of accountability in your opinion? well again, i think not a request during the intervention of the u. s. in a nice sort of investigation will not in my opinion,
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and it was also set by richard polk and others as well. it will not lead to any kind of transparent and professional investigation. the u. s. has since a long time been an ally we have known and as a, as a lawyer as well knowing that is really good system. no good will come out of any is re investigation all the more so as well with an israeli and american investigation. and i also think that should be focused on having an international, transparent, independent professional one that also can be led by the i c c. because it is, in my opinion, the only criminal independent body can hold that can hold is such investigation. but i also must stress out the fact that shooting a case in terms of the behavior and the responses of israel is totally not surprising because lack of accountability and full in unity on war crimes. might
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israel is a systematic response and we can see that not only the worst bond, we can see not also in garza, several un inquiries have been appointed to investigate. the violation of international human law work crime. it gods. all wars in 2008 mine in cost less than 2014 and also during the last year. and these are all tried to put off of obstacles, the work of the enquiries and also help that. so therefore, i don't see any a, i mean, any kind of positivity and demand venture bunch of us in this case rich as well as another richard falk in turkey. so how do we move the case forward? now of course i'll just 0 and the palestinian government wants the i c c to say on this case. in other cases where there's been
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a tax and abuses against palestinians will be i c, c. consider this, you think, given the pressure, the international pressure has been on israel. and how does this is really investigation and its findings impact the inquiry and the case that's being considered by the international criminal court? that's a difficult question because the i see her a new prosecutor who's shown no eagerness to pursue the investigation of israel on earlier crime. i would not be to optimistic about the submission to the i t c, but it can do no harm and exert additional pressure. and that's but what i think is the best way forward. is this real call for an independent international investigation?
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and who would that independent party be where it could be appointed by the un secretary general and taking account of the need for credibility and professional competence. and to reach a conclusion that address these issues of accountability as israeli treatment of international and palestine in and now 20 journalists, i think all of those things need impartial investigation. and the notion that the u . s. is willing to do that is i think, far from a realistic appraisal, congress is exerting miles pressure,
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but israel is exerting severe pressure. and israel, apec and other lobbying presence in the united states ensure that no us investigation is going to in any serious way. embarrassed israel if you read the recent jerusalem declaration between la paid and by they completely overlooked and were about israeli violations of human rights including the killing of hearing. okay. omar in washington, d. c. richard fox, they are not very optimistic about the submission to the i. c. c. what are your thoughts about this? how does this case move forward then? how do we ensure that there is justice and accountability? look at the end of the day, we already know what a credible investigation is. going to conclude because the facts are quite obvious
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. and we've seen many, many previous investigations into israel's crime against palestinians that you know, we get the facts, but then there is no accountability. and the reason there is no accountability is because the united states steps in to prevent international accountability for israel. the united states has used it's a beat on nearly 50 times in the un security council, the. she'll israel for meaningful accountability and as long as that pattern continues, unfortunately, we're going to keep running into a dead end. what we need is a fundamental change in american policy. we need this double standard that allows israel to be above the law to change. i mean, we can only imagine what it's like when journalists are killed in ukraine by the russian invasion. we already know, even though so mouth touchy is not an american citizen. what the u. s. reaction was like when he was killed and, and for some reason, whenever it comes to journalists who are killed by israel, there is a completely different standard. and that's really the issue here is that you need a shift in american politics. you need this pressure that we're already beginning to see happening in congress and in public discourse to continue increasing. so
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that america, you know, that the u. s. government can no longer get away with just it's sheer hypocrisy on this question, omar, and begin to, if not, hold israel accountable, at least allow for israel to be held accountable on the international samar, that the, the civil of aspects that house and talked about a few minutes ago, i want to ask you about that because son had suggested that a civil suit could be launched in the u. s. because of course sharing less palestinian and also american could that be another avenue for the family to find justice? i'm not exactly a legal expert, but i do know that there has been a history of the you escorts this missing anything to do with foreign policy as a matter that they would not take on directly. and that is up for the u. s. government to resolve, sir, there is a deference for the administration and many of these kinds of cases. so i'm not entirely sure what are the prospects of that are to be let's ask us house and who's a, a legal expert about this. a civil case in the u. s. could that be another option for, for, for the family to consider. and again, on like ad there's,
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as far as i know there's the alien towards claim on probably would create an option for showing family to submit towards should in american a ports based on and my own knowledge. i know about there has been several cases by israelis who have submitted similar law suits against palestinians including the palestinian authority, demanding financial compensation after being hurt by allegedly palestinians. and the us courts did intervene in favor of this ready. and i think that this also might create as well another size of double standards from the, from the american side, this time from the u. s. corps, in case it's civil, so it will be submitted and it will be dismissed because there has been acceptance
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. a all federal lawsuit by he's a, he's providing them with financial compensation. right. and similar by the miller and civil demands have been also submitted in aly course against even palestinian authority, demanding responsibility. right on talks on the supreme court. this racial called court also in this case, intervened in favor of this raise. the vice versa have been. * not only have been dismissed well and on both levels but all because like when you think they'll be a double standard here as well. let me ask richard falk and give you the final word . richard fox. what about the palestinian government? what more can it do at this stage? saying it should call for an international independent investigation. with the members of the investigating commission appointed by the un
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secretary general, that is the only an impartial kind of commission report will be disclosed, as omar suggested they've been many report condemning israel behavior. and they've not only been not supported by the us. the us has tried to suppress them, even though they were extra responsibly done. all right, thank you so much for a very interesting discussion. thank you very much. oh, my bad south and richard fox, thank you for being on a 5 story and thank you too for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at ologist era dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can of course, also join the conversation on twitter. we are adrian inside from me for the back to
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