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then military has advanced almost 50 kilometers in 3 days. western alice se keeps southern offensive, could shut down vital supply lines to the east and potentially leave thousands of russian troops encircled those much up stories to stay with us now to 0 at the stream is up. next, looking at brazil upcoming election. i want to be after that me the ah. hi anthony ok. brazil's elections are coming up on october. the 2nd there are 12
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presidential candidates, but down the street we are going to be focusing on to the current president, diane, by say, buffalo, excuse me, while scenario. and oh, so louise in massey, a lot to silver here they are debating. on august the 29th but you could the shade. and if the country i left is a country that the people miss, it was a country of employment. it was a country where people had the rights to live with dignity, with their heads up. and this country will come back, you can probably go to, so there was corruption, president lula. you want to come back. what for you to keep doing the same thing. and petro, battle rice get a little bit there for the workers party, the worse off the people are the poor, the better for them to do politics off those. it will, if you so much. so you have to very different candidates that what would you like to know about them on today's show, we are going to be exploring key campaign issues and what's at stake for brazilians . you can do in a conversation right here in the comment section on you tube. ah,
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o i x, what expert panel? hello, elona. i be honest. this is so lovely to have all 3 of you here. we are going to unpack the upcoming elections. what's that state? what's going on in brazil right now in? no, no, welcome, please say hello to our audience around the world. thank your family. my name is elena zabel. i'm the co founder and president of they got up at you said to get to have you are diana, welcome. please say hello to audience. thank you for having me. there me. i'm at the on the market. i'm a manager at students for liberty, brazil that to happen as a senior, nice to single place allied as to see a to thank you so much for inviting me. i'm cecilia carnegie. i'm managing editor at americas quarterly. all right, very good. i am going to get you guess, to build a picture of what these 2 candidates are like. let's put up the candidate who's
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currently present at the moment. cecilia, tell me 2 things about almost an hour that would be helpful for i'm to natural williams to know. bolton r o came in from left field even though he's on the right. he just surprised everybody when he got elected. he is a long time politician who was in congress for almost 30 years as a french character who just exploded in 2018 as the leading candidate with they got the scorsone, a rhetoric of supporting families, freedom which to ham, equates a right to have guns and against abortion, and for family, and specially religion. all right at elena did. cecilia, any of you anything more to add to pulse now so we get this instant picture of how he's campaigning. what is he's like? what did he style like? cecilia, just to put him in the right place, but i would say that he's in a far life are right. candidates like very much like trump and the with there are
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been populous authoritarian leave. those that are trying to undermine democracy from we're then and that's an important feature for this election because it's of them a election about democracy. we have so it feels that we've got to polar opposites as leading candidates. so let's have a look at louise in astro new lead to silva put his candidate caught up. and this time alone you start with 2 things that would be helpful for us to know before we get deep into our conversation to or so lula is pregnant. that came from the people he had the to context of mandates and was responsible for include the most number, the populations in, let's say the lower and middle middle class. so he comes with a flag of we're going to be happy again. he last also with the corruption gambles, the processes that you are facing were notified by the justice system because they
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were not respecting the due process according to our supreme court. so he wants to come back to just try another another time to show what he's far too has to do for the brazilian people see here that, yeah, and this is sort of a playback. this election should have been in 2018. so in 2018 hoola was ahead in the polls when he was arrested and taken to jail under the legation that the, that you learned just mentioned. so he was taken out of that run of right, a few months before the election. so now we're actually sort of re read the reliving a 2018 election, but yes, lula has a banner of poverty fighting against poverty. he was a poor man himself. he came from a very, very poor family that migrated from the northeast almost on foot and had you know, very little education and sort of like pulled himself out from the bootstrap's and
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became a new union leader. very well known love to global that he is a relatively well spoken man. i mean, he really has the power of words and resonates with people. but so does both in are completely different narrative. but he's also incredibly powerful in his speech idea. and i'm wondering what the atmosphere is like in brazil right now, fema weeks to go before the elections. what is at stake for priscilla at this point in terms of social conditions, living conditions, what might be possible depending on what happens on october? the 2nd well actually we are facing a very polarized environment, right now. we're down. sions are like all over the place. actually, i just hope that whoever gets elected, we have a little more space to debate peacefully because i see maybe there, there is a,
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arise of violent speeches, etc. so i'm kind of worried that this may get worse depending on who gets elected. can you give me an example? when you say there's a rise of violent speeches, say you've got a better view of that than we have. what does that mean? what have you heard? basically on social media, i think ilana, will agree with me that something that we see every day actually on where people are attacking each other, you know, you know, very hostile wait, actually. and it seems like we can debate politics in the city more. i know you started then to so you pick you pick out of that. i know that these are the very important the so i think, you know, i hate speech. this information was information is not new, but it has been with us in the last elections. but just to say that there is a different thing now, which is a rhetoric,
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especially from been going back in terms of political violence that people should respond to any result which is not the result of he winnie with violence. take the guns that the allowed people to buy and then just in his speech, protect democracy, which is which of course so i would argue that it's against the democracy, but that's, that's what is at stake. i believe a political violence. silica had it. yeah, i was just going to add on the bill ever everyone actually throw you another question to, to elona because via we're, we're seeing just today in the news. again, another person who was killed by another one by an a political discussion. and the man just, you know, killing each other, that was another men celebrating his birthday party was killed because he had lula banners around his birthday party. so this is trans ladies, it's moving out of social media. and we had this pushed for more guns on the streets. and that to me is though scariest part of this moment in,
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in my country is, is this push for a more weapons and elona? that's what i would say because of the rise was what, like some 300 percent more guns in the hands of civilians since 2018. something like that. right? absolutely. cecilia. so this to say, you know, i work for over 20 years in civil society when and like with a non partisan independent organization. but we're here really facing fracture the more graphic system, watha down abroad in terms of a lack of dialogue. we had the closure of civic spacing, this country that was unprecedented since the dictatorship time. so what they're facing now is really the, the 10th of not accepting there was the results of the election. and of course, society and institutions are pushing back against that. but we're having to restate every day our support for democracy to come through and my organization has been leading the gun control, let's say initiative with another organization called the school to so the bus to,
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to be able to have a evidence base dialogue of what it means to leave a democrat state or people have to accept the rule of the law and cannot take justice into their own hands. i john, let me share with you some headlines that we picked out the international headlights. i some concerns from outside of brazil, on my laptop here, brazil's presidential campaign kicks off that made fears of violence. facebook i would, i meant to it's failing to prevent a repeat of january the 6th in brazil report warns than imminent election crisis in brazil. these over wrought with these accurate i think it's accurate actually, because like i said, we are facing a very polarized campaign, political campaign. ok. and since the beginning of the campaign, i feel that things are getting a little bit worse in this sense. um, because like i told you before, you go social media in to see people are taking each other like it seems like we
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are not able to more to talk as individuals will have to respect each other's views . and that's something that really worries me because i like lona said, it's democracy who is at stake. so it's important to us to learn how to talk to each other again with respect and peacefully. let's talk about 2 issues that are impacting voters and sometimes what's on the campaign child is not what really is needed for the country. i'm wondering if there's a disconnect there. but for you to see that what is one of the most critical issues that will be important when people go to vote and they make that decision hunger. i think for, you know, if you have 33000000 people hungry and a country e, it's, you know, when he gets to the vote, it's one vote one person. it doesn't matter what your bank account is like. so right now we do have several cohorts of society that support one or the other, but
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a large one that they are hungry, they need food on the table. so i think that for a very large bit of the population, ah, because the 33000000 that are going hungry, then you can add easily several other 1000000 people who are just scraping by. so once you have this scenario, i think that's what it's going to count the most at the moment of voting. i would agree or just that the cost of living in general has increased the many as in many other parts of the world. but brazil faces an economic crisis. people are like with difficulty the pain, they're b o. so unemployment. i also see people worried about health and education. so the public goods provision and of course of violence and security is always also in the order of the day. so it's a, it's a jobs economics and public goods election. what about indigenous vote is because often they all pushed out of the thinking of what,
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where is brazil going next? something that luna is always been thinking about. but bo sanara has changed that trend in the last few years. climate save me amazon, who is important to the voters. that's a very, very interesting question i cuz i asked myself like, you know, you see the world looking at the brazil and thinking of brazil as a big amazon and the issues there. but you go into the amazon and you see a population that needs jobs and who is employing them, who's giving them job? illegal loggers, illegal miners, and people who are pushing deforestation. so these are jobs. well, you know, the larger groups that are behind this push are not the ones actually doing, but cutting out the trees. so you have a real issue that both scenarios support in the north despite his let's say, we're partner mental policies. it's very strong because these are their jobs. so i
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think that there is a great disconnect there. but if i may say, so given the digit is, i think that one thing that happened since 2018 is that the indigenous groups got a lot more voice and guts and are getting a lot stronger. so i think if there is any benefit to all these, you know, insanity that it's happening on their situation. it's that even though it's the because it got worse to them, i think they got more of a voice in their getting heard more and more active. and more organized, even, you know, envision as women are organizing and several other groups. so i think that there is strength in numbers and there's still need support from the outside, but i think they are getting stronger. let me just see. sure. yeah. go ahead. you know, i think that is a very important teacher because on the one hand you feel is totally right to say they got more voice than they are coming bigger numbers. i think it's the highest
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number since we started recording the number of candidates that self declare indigenous. but it's also because they are under threat rhetoric. the territories are under threats, so they feel they need to mobilize politically. so we're seeing a pushback. i mean, it's a good push back in our presentation and we hope many of them get elected. i want to just play a little by it from noon as a silver, talking about the indigenous people of brazil and why they are important to him. and also to brazil, of course, that i'm listen, this country cannot continue to be governed by someone who doesn't like indigenous people who doesn't like black people, who doesn't like women who doesn't like union leaders who doesn't like the amazon who doesn't like serrato catania, the amazon rain forest who doesn't like it's people so we wouldn't be completely about talk about election without talking about misinformation. was the information out there. i think that that's now typical for every election that has any digital
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input i do on what's going on, you know, what sat messages recently on one set. yeah, actually i know there's a lot of fake news. we have a lot of groups today, so it kind goes around, you know, and what is dangerous about it is that information spreads really quickly. so i get something like, i don't know at 4 o'clock and then 430. everybody knows the same thing. and sometimes it's a misleading information that i have to have about asking what kind of misleading information. because then we've said it on al jazeera, but give me an idea of some of those offices so ludicrous that everybody is not going to believe it. um, basically formation about the 2 candidates leading candidates, both auto and lula and misleading formation about both of them. that's what i see the most. actually, like i'm, like i said before, it seems like people can talk i'm, i'm on
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a peaceful level. so they have to attack each other and most of the time using lice to do it. so, oh, i don't actually know how going to, to when to fight this because everybody is free to share whatever they want. but, but it's a, it's a problem we're facing right now because many people don't go after information to try to find the truth before themselves. and they believe the 1st thing they see. yes, this no, no, go along as i was just company, that is one of the scariest thing. yeah, and i would say one of the most of the mental one is the ones at the into question our electoral voting system, which is a very modern 1. 1 that elected including a current president and you know that he and his group a tried the whole time to discredit the system, saying there is a secret room that would control and the fraud brazil's elections. and i think this is a very, very dangerous message, as unfortunately, when we've seen the polls,
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the presence 2 or 3. i do believe that the election sir can be further than that war fraud. even if he was elected. yeah, i yeah. he said that he wanted a 1st round, he didn't lose, he didn't win and 2nd, right for them, right? not one, but example actually of the, you know, yes it run it if i don't when the election has been stolen. absolutely. let me, i, this is, it's so interesting and you know, we spoke to maria, who is the director of human rights watch in brazil, and this is what she told us. it's almost a warning for what may happen post october. the 2nd i have a look president wilson, nato who is running for reelection has sought to in their mind trust in the electoral system. aladdin. without providing any proof that it is a reliable in addition to be attacking, being dependent me to attacking the judiciary. there had been no proof in cases of fraud in brazil feast. we adopted the electronic electoral system more than 20
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years ago. it's crucial that international community act in their way that support free and fair elections in brazil. and then the clear cut method to wilson, that, that an attempt to not respect, then we will proceed in voters, will not be tolerated. so that's an issue that we don't know if is gonna happen yet . there's some concern, but we don't know quite yet. i want to give our viewers watching this are a little snippet of boston arrow to see his confidence at this stage in the campaign. and then i'm gonna open up our conversation. we have so many questions for you guess on youtube. we're going to do a speed around and see how many of them we can outset and address. but 1st his pastor pos in our it is good this. we know that we have a fight between good and evil ahead of us. the evil that lasted for 14 years in our country that almost broke our homeland at that now wants to come back to the crime
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scene. they won't. the people are by our side. the people are on the good side. the people know what they want. oh, all right, so let's go to youtube. got so many questions and comments. renato, for instance, says president boston r. i refused to buy pfizer vaccines. there were so many avoidable deaf c also not people dying without breath. it's clearly a death for our democracy. that is renata toes perspective, but it's interesting that for this home 20 minutes or so nobody mentioned convert alona y. well, i would say because we're dealing with the threat of the day, but that was a huge issue in brazil, several 100 people almost dad. there's a receipt that shows that 4 out of 5 of these that could be preventable if the government had acted. the president was denied himself as
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a denial for climate change, for instance. but he was against masks. he was against buying rights, him like vaccines. so our governors actually did a great job and providing what is ation as brazil has like a very high records of immunizing our population, but as far as the and now the on to back to the movement also route in the car through. so that was absolutely failure, and a lot of like a suffering that should be prevented. all right. now you mentioned this early on how divided resilience right now. how youtube comments are completely divided as well. edwardo new ella was the biggest thief in our country, mo, most an arrow is i want to be trump. what do we get out of that situation? if we've got one group saying your candidate is wrong, another group saying your candidate is well, who suffers or who benefits? arianna? and i think who suffers the most, is this the more prosy itself. because like i said i democracy
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is to democracy to be strengthened. we need a scenario where people can dialogue, you know, and that's what i'm, i'm not seeing happening. so this is my main concern about the elections. and as you can see, we are facing a very paralyzed scenario. so, so i is just like a little microcosm of what is happening, i'm sure, in brazil, i've got this really interesting comment. hey, see, i'd love to unpack it and, and maybe add to it. if you can, the brazilian people won't bo scenario, but the lease one lula that's one person's take. can you? yeah, it's interesting. it's so interesting that you know, and then if you ask, that will be someone else who would say the opposite. really, zachary, already about that around the lives that, that's the we got the to the situation where it's not an election of which policy
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we want, it's an election of which, which met the which idol we have. so it's really a right now, we're having this dispute of like mike and it is better than yours and this is the good versus evil. i'm election in not an election on issues and what brazil needs coming forward. and i don't know how we get out of this, but this comment just up paints to me brings a exactly, this idea that some people will say what he said, right? the rich and the port, the, you know, a seminar commentary, we just interested in head. but it's neither, you have supporters for both in both areas. you have, you know, real elite, supporting both scenario and you have real, you know, in the have the poor electing a supporting lula as well. so it's, it's, that's definitely not the issue. but if you get, you know, a comment from one side or the other that you, you were gonna get this thing that is just like we are in a stalemate,
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right now. we're not discussing issues. we're discussing who i like and who i don't to say that that is such a good way to getting to petros question. we've only got a minute to onset, but say, do it very creep quickly if you can. but i want to know what are the main points and plans of each government, a lula government and a continued both to narrow carpet isn't really clear to the voters that they've got different plans. i think in the public debate, it's less clear. i think when you read the programs, you see that that one candidates and elbows are not or is, is more of the same in terms of what he planned to do before. but he didn't deliver on to corruption. but there are many corruption scandals in his government that the most secretive governments, since the faith are shipping brazil don't know much. i think many things will come later. he also promotes the labor economy but didn't believer. but he broke on that the liberals wanted the either in brazil, so lola comes back with the, let's include people. let's also put amazon back at the amazon forest back into the,
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you know, priority was over the country. let's have a education and health as a priority for, for all. so i think it's a more inclusive set of proposals, but i wanted to say that that was to see a mention. we don't have the loan up here that looked at him that you know, at the very end of the shows that i'm glad that you are able to say that very briefly. and that i have time to say thank you and lona: adiana, cecilia, i don't of your excellent questions on you cheap. i feel i got a little bit of the election bonds right here in the comments section. and so watching i see you next time. take everybody ah, beneath the surface lies a darker side in bushes politics, an exclusive al jazeera investigation. coming scene on counting the coffee energy battle between washer and the west is escalating, but who's winning is europe prepared to meet the challenge of going without wash
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