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when the queen died and then bringing them up to the top of the flag post and just to proclaim charles was king. and then once you've done that, you bring them down again. i think what we're doing here is we're celebrating the birth of a new rain, but then for the next few days we're going to pull back, there will be fewer uniforms and, and, and this kind of ceremony because we want to return to, oh, of the queen or chris, it thanks very much indeed for that. but with you as the minutes in the hours go on ah ah
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ah oh, where it has pleased almighty gold to called his mercy. our late sovereign lady, queen elizabeth the 2nd of blessed and glorious memory. by whose decease, the crown, the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. soley and rightfully come to the prince charles philip, offer george we therefore the lord spiritual and temple of this realm and members of the house of commons together with other members of her late majesty's privy council and representatives of the realms and territories, aldermen and citizens of london and others do now hair by with
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one voice and consent of tongue and heart population proclaim that the prince charles fill it off at george is now by the death of our late sovereign of happy memory become our only lawful and rightful leaves. lord charles, the 3rd, by the grace of god of the united kingdom of great britain and and of his other rounds and territories, king head of a commonwealth defender of the faith, to whom we don't acknowledge all faith and obedience, with humble affection. besieging god, by whom kings and queens do reign to bless his majesty with long and happy as to reign over us given it's james, his palace is 10 staff september the year of our lord.
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2020 to god save the cane. ah ah ah, i oh, i a
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n mm o. 3 cheers for his majesty, but k, ah,
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it is a little armed after 1100 hours g m t it's 5 past mid day in london. this is al
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jazeera, with continuing coverage of a proclamation of king charles the 3rd as monarch of the united kingdom. we've just been watching the proclamation being read to the lord mayor of london in the city of london. little earlier, the accession council met to make the proclamation at saint james is paris gathering. included former prime ministers, not the senior politicians feel part of the privy council, and for the 1st time in hundreds of years of the british monarchy, the council conducted its ceremony in public. let's bring in joe hall, who's outside buckingham palace in central london. john, up. what do you make of what we've just been watching? when i tell you that the enormous crowd gathered here, i've side bucking palace wishes they'd been watching all this. pomp and ceremony
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take place. not just sir. james is palace. pretty much a stones throw away from here, but in the city of london as well. where the proclamation has just been read for a 2nd time. the crowd here by contrast in the roadways outside, bucking, still pending behind barricades waiting for a glimpse of king charles when he eventually makes his way back to buckingham palace. so they would have hoped, i think that would have happened by now. it's increasingly fractions. crowd is quite a lot of pushing and shoving. people have been standing for an awful lot longer than they were anticipating. somebody broke through the barricades a short while ago. the police pounced on them. the crowd treated it a bit like entertainment and every now and then agreed work his band with people on the backend. yes. hi this jack. it's carrying more barricades drive by and they've been sort of giving a mark royal way to entertain the crowd. but at some point soon we do believe king
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charles the 3rd will make his way back to buckingham palace and we understand we'll stop and reward the patients by getting out to do a little walk about. but you see did on friday when he arrived back here from balmoral shaking hands, having his hand kissed on one or 2 occasions, even one brave woman leading over the barricades and kissing him on the cheek. and for the benefit of anyone to jonah who's, who's just joined us on, i'll just, you know, just remind people what it is we've been watching, what they've missed over the past couple of hours. well as you say for about the last couple of hours, we have been witnessing the ceremonies around the meeting of the accession council, an ancient tradition that occurs only to appoint a new sovereign. so it hasn't happened for 70 is of course it was for the 1st time . it wasn't television 70 years ago, but it was in fact televised. and so the world had
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a glimpse inside this ancient ceremony and gathered inside the state room in some james's palace was the privy council. 200 members of the 700 strong privy council, politicians, current and old. all the living, former prime ministers, senior members of the clergy. also of course, queen consort camilla and william now prince of wales. both are privy counsellors as well. and they gathered their essentially to approve the appointment of charles as king. he then entered the room, he gave his 1st declaration to do with the queen, to honor the queen. as an example of her lifelong love to the country and her service. he said, he told the room that he was deeply aware of the great, this greatest inheritance. he said, i shall strive to follow the inspiring example that i have been said. and with that
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they were owed signed, wanting to protect the church of scotland. and a proclamation, the 1st proclamation of the king read by the gothic king of arms from the balcony overlooking prior records at some james's palace to a waiting crowd. but i lots of pomp and ceremony, a band. trumpets, gun salute in hyde park and the tower bridge. the proclamation re read in the city of london. it will be read again in all the corners of the realm in scotland and wales, and in northern ireland. if he's now by tradition official, the charles for the prince. charles is king charles the 3rd for the mother general, and many thanks and aids out as it was during a hell that live a buckingham palace in london. jonathan spangler, there's a senior lecture and early bought in his trip manchester metropolitan university. and he, johnson. i live from manchester, a. jonathan, what do you make of all of the, the pomp and ceremony of the past few hours?
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well, i've got to say, adrian, it's really thrilling to watch as a, as a historian of ceremony and ritual of monarchy of the past 5 or 600 years. this is for me, an amazing thing to watch, really watching history unfold before our very eyes. the fact that it was televised shows already that the monarchy is changing, as it has already been changing in the modern world. and it really allowing access into what was previously private ceremony. why do you think that king charles, the 3rd thought that that it was so important the public could, could witness this? as you say, ancient ceremony, which up until now has been held behind closed doors. but gradually, over, as i said, over the centuries, the monarchy has really been changing and evolving. i'm from the, the, the people who wield power into a more ceremonial,
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more symbolic dynasty head of state who represent the identity of the people, the feelings, the emotions of the people. and therefore this should be a people's ceremony. so i think if that's how it was seen, and that's how i think people will take it. and this is a transfer of power, of basically a nation's spiritual identity. and so therefore, the nation should say it that you think that that's how the nation and, and the world will see it. and just how important is it to the, to the monarchy a took to, to cement its place in society if you like, through a ceremonies traditions like this? well, i think there will be a variety of feelings and beliefs. and there are very many people who absolutely love the monica have been brought up with it. really believe that it's a very strong central part of the nation. there are others who really don't like it
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at all. see it as a, as an expensive waste of taxpayer money. and then there are people around the world for people who example aren't from a monarchical society, like united states of america, who just see it as really colorful and interesting and historical. and so it is one of the key draws of united kingdom and certainly americans like myself, i have always been just fascinated by the ceremonies and the rituals of the united kingdom. but the, so this sort of thing just doesn't happen on, on its own. does it mean that she said that there is, there's history and tradition here, but in all of the uniforms that we're seeing or all of the people wearing here. but the fact that these, these intricate ceremonies just appear to, to, to go off without a hitch. i mean, it must have been rehearsals which, which should cost a fortune, at least in terms of time, if not money is absolutely this has been rehearsed
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and rehearsed and rehearsed. and every one, especially military and within the palace administration knew exactly what to do. and when again, one of the really nice historical traditions that i think is the continuity of some of the household officers. and so it was particularly interesting for me to watch during that ceremony. the duke of norfolk, who was in the red, more intricate outfit. and the, the duke of norfolk has been the earl marshal of the household and the crown since the 16th century. and so his job is to run all of these ceremonies and, and has his family have been doing it for hundreds of years. because to me, that's just, yeah, i'm a sample cuz we, we, we talk about this, this pump and uncertainty how, how fascinating it is that there appeared when we, when we heard the, the, the, the calling for 3 cheers for, for,
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for his majesty. and then the sort of the round of applause of the end, there's almost an air of celebration about it. we have to effect, remember that this is a nation still in the midst of grief. yes, that's right. and i think that in itself, isn't it a real testament to some of the mystique and the mystery about monarchy in general, not just the british one. and, but most of the european monarchies had similar situations where the, the moment of transition of power or ceremonial power at least is exactly the moment of death. and so the fact this is both a period of morning and a period of celebration is really actually quite interesting. and i think it's a delicate line to balance, but people seem to be getting it right so far. and king charles the 2nd, the 3rd, sorry, has really given the right tone in his speech is so far,
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really good. still he, jonathan many, thanks to the jonathan spangler that in manchester. let's bring in girl historian at owens, who's in our london studio at good to have you back with us. what do you make of what we've been seeing over the past few hours? i would pick up really, just where dr. jonathan spangler left off on watching the scenes here alongside me unfold. there's a clear emphasis on pump pageantry, a vision of british history unfolding before our eyes. i think it's important that we also take stock of, of where this highly choreographed pageantry really comes from. as dr. spangler just mentioned, some of it, we can trace it back sort of for 5, maybe 67 centuries. but really, the, the professionalization of the kind of royal spectacle that is unfolding in central london day, really took place in the late ninety's,
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early 20th century. it's not actually that hold, i'm not was because the monarchy, so to make, if you like itself, the center of britain's history and the kind of frustration of these events that we're, that we're witnessing today are about presenting to the, to the masses, especially us television views what it is, the british history names where the monarchy is at the center of that history. this is the 21st century. i mean it is, but it's important today. why is it so important today? i mean, we have a family in the midst of brief and yet we're, we're putting them through all of this. now, before a magistrate, the queen, a mother, a grandmother has even been laid to rest. well, the point here is that the crime never dies. a monarch, the mortal monarch of course, arise at the end of that life. but as soon as the moment is dead,
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the crime passes directly to the successor. and the pageantry that we are witnessing unfold has unfolded like this for, for now a couple of centuries with an immediate emphasis on the proclamation the accession. and the, if you like the, for the public recognition of the new monarch. and that's what we're witnessing this morning, and i think it is important in recognizing that this transition has already taken place. and the events that have been taking place over the last 24 hours. i've really given meaning to that, to that notion of accession. and i'm just going to pause there for a moment. king charles is motorcade arriving back at buckingham palace. you can prove here that she is there. we're just waiting to see whether not we get a repeat of yesterday when the king got out of his car and met as many people as possible. joe was telling a little earlier of the crowd became quite fractious and i've been waiting for
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a very long time for this moment. and it does look as though. yeah, where we're not going to get to see the king greeting his subjects upon his arrival. back at buckingham palace that but caustic, your eye then at over the last 24 hours of it. what do you make of the way that the things have begun for the new king? while you were just talking, adrian about king charles saw last night to go out of 10 amongst the crowds to, to shake hands to receive the well wishes to also receive receive, i think, remarks and memories regarding his mother. this was clearly a very public demonstration of a desire to be in touch with his people. i don't think it's necessarily surprising this morning, but he's not going to to repeat it to repeat that episode,
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not least because every time the, the new king puts himself in front of a match crowd in that way. there are, of course, grave security issues involved. i think overall last night's address the king's 1st speech to the nation, where he talked, i think with with warm words of his mother's legacy, this notion of duty, public service self sacrifice. he then went onto to connect his own new reign to his, the model established by his mother. i think that was very impactful because he presented himself as a constitutional monarch. following, emulating the example set by elizabeth. the 2nd that had, of course, been some concerns about what kind of king charles the 3rd would be, whether he continued to voice his political opinions or not. what we heard last
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night suggests that he is detached himself from some of those issues that he has campaigned on before. and he talked of adhering to the constitutional principles that are so entangled to britain's democracy. so i think that was, that was an interesting allusion to him wanting to follow as i say, the model of his mother. and for the moment, many thanks to come back to you in a few moments. but 1st i want to get back to buckingham palace to understand as jonah, how we saw that the king charles has arrived back there at buckingham palace did the crowd, though john to get what they wanted. they got a glimpse of the king. of course that will be the 1st thing they want to. well, they didn't get was a wolf about. sadly, as they watched his car travelling quite slowly, he was clearly visible in it, waving the crowd, disappeared through the gates of backing out men round the back of the building and out of sight. remember when he arrived here from moral on friday afternoon to him
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policy did. why don't expectedly at that moment get out of the car and do a walk about the crowd that been some speculation he might do that again in the crowd. a deal has been waiting behind barricades for the past couple of hours now. so no, they didn't get what they want to. but i think there is a sense that to preserve the sort of austerity of the occasion of the tradition of this occasion. the accession council meeting and james's palace, the proclamation of charles as king, the pageantry and ceremony that has gone along with perhaps this wasn't the moment to disarm everybody and go casual as it were, but rather to preserve the dignity and ceremony. as i say at the moment, so slow drive through by charles in a small convoy waving to the crab. certainly they all got a good look at him, but they didn't get to touch it. or i don't know many things stay joe to hold up, live outside buckingham palace. let's go back to at o. and then, and of course the,
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the pomp and ceremony may be over for today, the united kingdom goes back to being a nation in morning now, but of course there is what is said to be a huge state occasion coming out with a funeral for her majesty the queen preparations for which had been in place for a long time. for many years, we've got a, a full program of events actually leading up to the funeral of the list. but the 2nd that is not forget that, that there are going to be similar proclamations as we seen in london today in the 3 celtic nations tomorrow in scotland, wales and northern ireland in the capitals that are going to be there's going to be a similar proclamation of the, the new monarch that is going to be followed by the king's tool, we believe of the country. so he's going to be going around the country greeting his subjects again, accepting that condolences on his mother's passing,
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but also accepting that well wishes as, as new monarch of the country. so we are witnessing, i think, is shifting back and forward of attention between on the one hand new monica can charles with it with the if you like, the terminus of this, this period of royal events, of course being the, the funeral is but the 2nd and we are expecting, of course we're expecting world leaders to descend on the united kingdom in london to pay homage in respect to elizabeth the 2nd for her very long reign. and her role as, as monica, this country on the head of the commonwealth. right now you're going to have to explain something to us. and king charles, the 3rd has been fully proclaimed, was monica the united kingdom was he said the crown never dies. he became king the moment, but his mother, queen elizabeth the 2nd died. why then does he need
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a coronation, which will happen at some point in the future possibly next year? the coronation isn't, is of course essentially piece of christine ritual, where the king will be anointed with holy oil. the most integrity part of the entire ceremony is the anointing with, with holy oil. it was of course in 1953. the moment that was kept hidden from television view as everything else was, was presented to them through the, the grainy images of the, the new television screens. many of the many of them that have bought especially for the occasion. but the anointing of elizabeth, the 2nd was not shown because it is the most sacred moment of the coronation ceremony. in anticipation of king charles asserts carnation, we can, i hope, hopefully expect innovation. it might be the anointing issue. because of course, today we are more used to seeing and more and more used to having access to the,
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to the more intimate moments involving the, the british royal family. so that is what the coronation is, is about. we haven't got a precise date for that yet. but nevertheless, that will be huge, build up around it. specifically around one of these, these, these site core religious meanings that, that it, that it, that it carries. you explained the plans for queen elizabeth's funeral have been in place for many years. what about the coronation is matter is that something where plans are laid in advance or something that now now king charles has been formally proclaimed, will be arranged at some point down the line. well, we know a 22 plans operation london bridge of course was the code the code named for the the demise of the crime for the death of the list. but the 2nd i didn't, and in connection with that there was operation, spring tide, operation, spring tide was about the accession of king charles the 3rd and some of these
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events that we're witnessing this morning early afternoon here to the, to the, to the vision of accession saturday and operation, spring time as possible. opperation spring tide, of course. in the longer term there is the coronation, but the, the marshal. we were speaking to dr. jonathan spangler, earlier, he referred to the duke of norfolk. the marshal is the, if you like, the head of royal ceremonial. he is the person that controls and orchestrates royal spectacles of the pomp and circumstance, including the coronation. i imagine he and his team will be very, very quickly turning to king charles a 3rd coronation after a funeral, a queen elizabeth the 2nd was when queen elizabeth the 2nd sent it to the throne. britain had an empire, as he said, there were greeny television, images of that, that coronation of her carnation. but of course,
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i mean in those days, very few people had a television. now her funeral and king charles the third's coronation will be tele visual events. we're talking earlier about the importance for the monarchy, all of this, this pomp and circumstance that we've been. so we've, we've seen today just how much, how important is it as far as the rest of the world is concerned, and including the commentary. the, the commonwealths rather that these images and instantly available whereas back in 1952. we had to wait for next next days. newspapers or radio report. well i'm, i'm going to, if you don't mind, i'm just going to correct you on something that not just 19953 combination of course 53, a mega. yeah, the 1953 carnation wasn't. it was a mega television event and the british, british media audiences had gone out actually and bought a lot of televisions in anticipation of the 1953 essay cup final. and it just so
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happened that many of the that it worked at, they then have televisions for the coronation. of course, many went back and bought televisions for the coronation specially and you had parties of, of 12, maybe 15, even 20 people gathering in a, in and around a television in someone's front room watching as a, as a group of found a family group with friends with neighbors, and of course these, these, these televisions back then was much bigger than about 11 inches, inches across. so in comparison today, they didn't get the, they didn't get the color, they didn't get the sort of the spectacle that we've come to associate with the modern monitor. i think to refer to really a point you're absolutely right. but everything we see in terms of the visual family is immediately transmitted across the world via the satellite satellite television networks. 6 meaning that certainly people in the, the former empire. but today we call that the commonwealth and in other parts of
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the world can participate more fully than they could back in 1953. so really the, this coronation that we were looking forward to in relation to king charles, the 3rd is part of this natural evolution in terms of the relationship between media and monica. and that's why i love talking to a historian as i salute your buddy. thanks and date of this again at owens, who will be with us from coming out here on out 0 just before we go, let's take you lives back to, to buckingham palace. so we'll take in the scenes actually 1st around london and the city of london following the formal proper proclamation of king charles the 3rd. let's just remind you that sir, an accession council met to earlier to make the formal proclamation that was at saint james's palace in central london.

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