we call that the commonwealth and in other parts of the world can participate more fully than they could back in 1953. so really the, this coronation that we will be looking forward to in relation to king charles. the 3rd is, is part of this natural evolution in terms of the relationship between media and monarchy. and that's why i love talking to a historian, ed, i salute your body. thanks. indeed, sir, for being with us again at owens, who will be with us in the coming out here on out 0. i just, before we go, let's take you live back to want to buckingham palace or will take in the scenes actually 1st, around london and the city of london following the formal prox proclamation of king charles, but furred let's just remind you that sir an accession council met earlier to make the formal proclamation that was at saint james's palace in central london, the gathering. i included former prime ministers and other senior politicians who

are part of what's known as the the privy council. there are about $700.00 privy councilors. of course, they couldn't all attend. only $200.00 or so of them were present for the accession council meeting. and for the 1st time in hundreds of years of the british monarchy as you've been hearing over the past few minutes. or the council conducted it's ceremony in public, it was televised to the world so that we could all watch. then there was an official public reading of the proclamation on the balcony abscess james's palace in london. and then a similar ceremony, another public reading of a proclamation. you're looking at pictures of it now in the city of london, which is to the east, more met all of the capital,

the center of the capitol. ah, buckingham palace, of course. and saint james's palace are to the west of central london. well that was the conclusion of the reading of the proclamation ceremony in the city of london, a tap and within the last half hour or as far as the pomp and ceremony of the

day is concerned. that's that's more or less it the u. k goes back now to being a nation in morning that we will draw to a close our coverage for the moment. here on al jazeera, it will be plenty of more. nick will be back with the news out for you and a little over half an hour after inside story. next. ah. she was a symbol of continuity in the united kingdom for 7 decades, but after queen elizabeth the 2nd death, what does the future hold for the monarchy and how will she be remembered? this is inside still ah

hello and welcome to the program on him. ron con tributes have been pouring in for britain's queen elizabeth the 2nd who's died the age of 96. she has been praised for her compassion and warmth, and described as a role model and an inspiration to millions. buckingham palace says she died peacefully on thursday afternoon at her scottish state balmoral. the crown has passed her oldest son, who's now known as king charles the 3rd. the queen's long rain, so widespread changes across the country that she rolled over. as well as the world that she lived in for everything, she remained a constant as need. walker now recalls a rain soul, years of traumatic change, the social, cultural, and technological revolution that altered the very landscape of the nation. but the

queen retained the same values, the same habits, an unchanging presence in a country, living through times of turmoil and conflict. she was just 25 when she came to the throne. exactly the same age as the 1st queen elizabeth and was only 18 at the end of the 2nd world war where she served as an ambulance driver. only 8 years later, she was being crowned on almost every level kind of politically, culturally in terms of technological innovation. in terms of society, i mean, every sort of massive change in the late 20th century. obviously, she lived 3 things ranging from, obviously the fall off about a year at the end of apartheid africa in england, a female prime minister, the 1st black president in america. so those kind of landmark, also things like the development world wide web, which is obviously have a huge impact on society. the queen very much left away in technology as far as

worlds how may the consent in 1997. she actually was pretty behind launching the family 1st website, which monarchy and then in more recent years, we saw her get pretty behind things like facebook page for them on a key in 2010. and all the things while they were being developed aids would always say they were sent right to the top. it wasn't that they were being worked on my press secretaries. she ever saw all those development in technology. and she had said she was also all too aware of a new kind of national grid with the liberal terrorism for a long time. took the off in the 2nd world war, the problems in northern ireland. she was shocked at a new wave of terrorism, islamic terrorism had hit london and define who she stood in that central all over there about the palace and observed 2 minutes silence. i say defiance as if to say you can promise, but we are not photo. and as britain shifted to become

a more multicultural society, and one that was more accepting of divorce, the queen's family too seemed to adapt when one of her grandsons, prince harry married, megan markelle, a bi racial american actress who had been married before. yet months after the wedding differences began to emerge, and eventually the couple made allegations of racism against members of the royal household. harry and megan and the rest of the royal family started off with the best of intentions. we're going to work together. we're going to take the war family into the 21st century. but how do you change it? a medieval western european system overnight? it's very difficult to do that. the queen said the family was saddened by the couples decision to step back from the royal family and move to the united states. when she came to the throne, the queen made a promise to the nation, whether it be long or short,

shall be to vacate the okay. and to the service i great in k o family. to which we all belong. it was a pledge, many would say she managed to fulfill remaining a constant and an ever changing world. ne parker al jazeera london will bring in our guests in just a moment. but 1st, let's take a closer look at the role of the british monarchy. it's known as a constitutional monarchy, meaning the sovereign is the head of state, but doesn't rule that's done by the government. and the monarch must work in conjunction with the parliament. so the powers are symbolic and ceremonial, and a meant to be politically neutral. the monarch is also the head of state for 14 other commonwealth countries. these include australia, canada, jamaica, new zealand. in all these roles, the monarch is supported by members of the royal family. ah, let's bring a guess joyce, a good, a writer,

and it's an author of jamaicans in britain, a legacy of leadership. she joins us. london in lloyd is a royal writer and former roll photographer. he joins us from oxford and zide at melbourne. he is the managing partner of hardcastle advisory, a london based political consultancy, in is also a political commentator and adviser. he also joins us from london for long live the queen, or rather live the king and the queen is dead. all of these things we keep hearing, we keep hearing of the legacy of this woman. i want to bring in, in lloyd's here in oxford. and you spent a lot of time with the queen. you took a number of pictures of how you went on key visits with we keep hearing this idea. she was the epitome of duty that she knew exactly what she was doing. is that right? yes, i think that's. that's exactly right. she was trained by her parents because her father came to the throne, unexpectedly,

when his brother abdicated in 1936. so he was landed with the job of king without any experience. and he was determined that the same thing wouldn't happen to his daughter. so she was only $25.00 when she became queen. she was trained by the king, so she saw documents from the time of the 2nd world war and had her own box of government papers from the foreign office so that she could get used to being the queen. and i think when she started i, i entered it later on a private secretary at the queen's and he said in the early days she was always saying, what would my father of done? so she was very keen to continue that legacy. and she was a very disciplined person as well, who was very good at the executive side of the job of the reading, the documents and you know,

assiduously kind of in training herself, i suppose on the job it from when she became queen in 952, well, in just the idea of her that she knew what she was saying that, that she had this sense of duty. but over 2nd decades the world completely changed . and she was there for guiding britain almost through many of those changes. was she aware of the kinds of seismic shifts that were going on, or she kind of insulated from all of us. i think she's very aware of it. i mean, as she took her role as, as mother of the country the like very seriously. she read a certain amount of the correspondence that was sent to her by ordinary men and women. and she would say that the expression is the book stops here. she knew that the people quite often had failed to get something, whether it's an operational something and they didn't know who to turn to. so they wrote to the queen and she was very experienced in

a sort of try to find out what people wanted. the other thing that she did was, every day she read all the newspapers, so she was aware of what was happening, the mood in the, in the country, very time. of course she got it wrong, was during the week diana died. and i don't think she could quite get used to that . that sudden change that came about when the princess of wales was killed in 1997 . let's bring a little joy here, joy. what we're hearing from in seems to be what a lot of people are saying that she did have the sense of duty that she was this woman that presided over the like 7 decades in the seismic shifts. and she was aware of them. but i don't know if that's really the case. i mean, the rule household in particular is incredibly white. it didn't really impact it. didn't employ a person british color until very,

very recently it seemed to be out of touch with what was going on in her own country. what do you think when i was actually slightly disagree with that? i do believe that queen elizabeth the 2nd was very much in touch with all she had some insight into all of her subjects. she was always that they were all that have always been people of color in the oil. how so hundreds of years in one capacity or other? we know very well about queen victoria. we know george george george, that he has a black wife or possibly black for that defendant african descent. and so i'm, and she also raised her children in the same way. and i do know that they always had they were always in touch,

certainly with members from the black community, whether they be from england or throughout to come out. let's bring an interesting point to have been people from various walks of life in the rural household. i mean it's all the green toria was mentioned there, but she was the empress of india. she'd brought over a indian person to basically help or understand the country. she was ruling. this is a legacy of colonialism, wasn't multi cultural britain we're talking about right when it came to queen elizabeth the 2nd and i again would politely disagree in some respects. i'll explain why it's, it's the 7 decades of, of rural that you mentioned again, an extraordinary period in, in world history. the queen over saw imperialism, fascism, communism, and took us through to the tech age. and i think as a monarch who started her rain, you know, as the sovereign of 70 countries to, to,

to, to day, she managed that process and britain's and shifting role in the world with a plum. and i think the royal family has done well to reconfigure. itself towards people of different color and different and communities. and that's definitely something that king charles is about. he's and he stated that over and over he and lloyd, it's an extraordinary legacy as well, especially when you consider, you know, the 7 decades that she has been in this job. but you've also got to consider, we also have to consider in britain, the impact of, of this, the judiciary, the legal system, are all on her majesty's service. all she's the ceremonial head that suddenly changes to his majesty. does that make a difference at all? she thank well it's going to take some getting used to, i mean, you know quick. let's see. lawyers are queens counselors. now the king's counselors and one thing we'll know to straight away all soon will be the change in the king's

image on the bank notes and coins. it's, you'd have to be about 80 years old now to remember a time when we signed god save the king and the king's head was on the stamps on the coins. so it's going to take some getting used to and all during my life and people much older than me. everything has been in the presence of the queen and quite often the queen on the duke read amber. so it's going to take an awful lot of adjustment, i think, but i mean, it happened when the queen became queen. so equally, it's going to happen again, but we're just not used to it. so 70 is an amazing amount of time, isn't it? i enjoy when queen elizabeth the 2nd came into the roll and the head of the royal family and became queen. we lived in a very different well, there wasn't the internet. there wasn't this kind of 24 hour scrutiny that was on the roll family. we now have seen the effect of that 24 hours scrutiny. we've seen

everything blow up and if any kind of control the blow up into something like huge where people start talking about it on talk shows they're all family so much more public now than it ever was doing. king charles is capable of dealing with that. i do actually, and i think for the last couple of decades, he's been really very well prepared and he's shown a great interest in it in it, particularly in london. it's very evident that diversity, the diversity of the country. he has involved in south schemes that have actually lifted many people from from other from ethnic minorities and given them opportunities, whether it's through the prince's trust or any other school that he has done. and he's really come to the forefront. and i have to say,

i am quite looking forward to seeing what other changes it he will make. he will make to the establishment as you do think good. you agree with that? it seems quite an optimistic assessment. it is optimistic though. we're missing one other thing here, which is the role that the monarchy has externally. and i think we're seeing that in the, in the tribute, et cetera. you saw the tribute from vladimir putin, i'm sure, really remarkable the same. you know, the u. k has a very difficult relationship with europe. the tribute from the you and president my com were were remarkable in the same regard. and i think the monarchy has its role in britain retaining its influence on the world stage. and the queen, you know, certain relationships and certain a certain personal report will be lost with the passing of the queen. however, king charles is representing the institution and he will be able to benefit from some of that institutional memory on the, on the diplomatic stage. definitely in king charles the 2nd one,

he was prince of charles the 3rd and but when he was prince charles, he was, he actually took an active look at what the role family meant and down to the menu show of like how many members of the household should that be, was very, he was taking a look at what the monica meant in the 21st century. now he hasn't charles actually change the monarchy. will he? will he change it will take that child? i think in certain ways, definitely. i mean, an obvious one is, is the, the number of people who are members of the royal family. if you ask people in the street, what they don't like about monarchy quite often it's, it's what they call hangers on the distant relatives, the cousins and so on. and i think he will streamline them on the case. so we'll get rid of prince andrew will he's already gone, but i mean, it will be very focus will be very much on the immediate line of succession with

certain exceptions. obviously, princess royal does a fantastic job and, and would be very much part of the firm. and i think with edward and sophie as well, but apart from that, the very great number of royals will be reduced and i think they'll, he'll think about certain things like the palaces. i mean, we still not to really to say what will happen, but it, there was rumors that he might make windsor castle, his seated government if you like. and, and buckingham palace will be permanently to the public. but it could be the other way around with it. but i think that will be quite a lot of changes. i think he's more open to change is probably than the queen was queen was a great traditionalist. and she was of the opinion. if it's not, it's not broken or forgotten the freight, but you know, she, she, she didn't really want to, to change that much. so i think it could be an interesting time for the monica.

certainly in terms of adapting to the future, joy is adapting enough or does it need a radical change? i don't. taishan began quite some time ago. actually it's been very slow, but it's been evolving every year over the years. and, and we've seen that. i mean, they have no option when princess diana died, then to make some radical changes and they made a complete turn around. and now, i mean, irrespective of what happened, i, king charles has 2 black grandchildren. i mean, you know, it happening very slowly, but very stephanie and i do feel that it's tony, it's going in the right direction. i mean, because it changes overnight. you know, it's going in the right direction, especially these times a very difficult because a number of the former colonies,

they no longer wants to be part of. they don't want a case to be at the head. but at the same time, they want to maintain a very good relationship with them. it's not to forget that the people from all these countries, they all locked queen elizabeth, well, let's talk about the commonwealth is actually one of the things that i certainly will always associate with queen elizabeth. the 2nd she seemed to be very much bought into the idea of the commonwealth. she. ready she is certainly somebody that was kept to get the idea going for a very long time. side by the commonwealth is a ridiculous name because it's a legacy of colonialism. it's a legacy of britain, take it, taking and stealing a lot of countries, wealth and then calling at the commonwealth. but we'll mass is the commonwealth now? still something that king charles will take on because it seemed to me to me very much his mother's project in some respect. yes,

because she was the monarch that over saw the shrinking of, of british territories. as i said, when she became queen, she was the queen of 70 plus countries, in terms of it being associated with her. i mean, it is, it remains the 2nd largest international organization in the world. it has the ability to do a lot more. we saw prince charles in recent years as the transition was taking place. take a more active role. but i also think there scope for britain's role in the world to be increased somewhat. i mean, in recent memory, the queen was on postage stamps in bahrain, guitar, kuwait, and what is now the u. a. e. and i think that the commonwealth has missed a step in some respects in making sure that all of the areas in which britain had some influence and that it's not extended further. the monarchy is also able to kind of retain britton's relationship and expand upon them elsewhere. the queen oversaw the period of the special relationship with the united states and for

example, not going to fall in recent years. the relationship with morocco has undergone renay, san morocco, and the united kingdom have had relationship for 800 years. and the depth of that is because of this into did austic relationship. so i think the monarchy can do a lot more to build britain place in the world upon the progress that they've already had in recent decades. i mean, in lloyd brittany is off to a headstart because of its a unique position within the commonwealth. you went to several of those countries where the queen herself took pictures with her. you must have witnessed the warm welcome and the politics of all of this. but now we are witnessing countries wanting to get rid of the monarchy as their head of state. but like joy said, still wanting to maintain all the relationship. is there an opportunity for king charles to be able to do that? yes, although obviously he, to a certain extent he's limited because of his age. i mean, i suppose that he,

the queen was 25 and she put in the legwork in the early years of her rain. i mean the 1st tour of australia, new zealand in jamaica, some pacific islands was almost 6 months. so because it had to be by sea in those days for prince charles won't be able to have that sort of intense for sort of amount of time in this, in the country. so i suppose he, a lot of it will devote them to william and catherine, i suppose. but i can imagine that a lot of the countries will use this opportunity now to replace the queen or the king. now, as, as head of state, because i've been to, australia, i mean, it's very odd to be at the other end of the world and have the queen's head on the notes and the stamps again. you know, so it's, i think that that's almost going to happen very much in fairly soon. but at

the same time he and william, i think we'll use the commonwealth to for their own initiatives, particularly things like the environment. and so, rather than just being a political organization, i think it will be a useful body of people that story and we already know like do i do want to very quickly come to joy as well, joy, we're talking about the come work now. and the fact that it could be re told you actually mentioned the idea that you know, a lot of countries may, will replace the queen the king rather. now as i'm going to make that mistake for a while, we all are, i think for a while. but is that a good thing? i, i see the commonwealth as you know, i mean, today the commonwealth, the actual original term can be used today for a different manifestation. and really, i mean, so many of these countries and somebody mentioned earlier, they have issues with the fact that they feel that england has in britain as in the

past, taken their well taken their resources and so on and pulled it out and called it, well. well, today we can actually turn that around to everybody because there's a lot of negotiating that has already started and needs to go on in terms of not, not just reparations, but making good on some of the things that have happened in the past that have been negative to want to want some of these countries. and i think it could be a good thing to have that dialogue in that body of people together coming together so that it can be something that actually profitable for both sides. for all impulse. not just one, not just one player. no, not at all from a wow. older i guess joyce a good in lloyd and reside boba's. you and i want to thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just there a dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page at facebook dot com,

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