these people have some way to go home to and not just survive. that's the message that we have come to to see and to look at. and i'm sure that's what the secretary would take away with them. now the human suffering is unparalleled in its scope, but the delegation also visited us over heritage site here in august. i'm going to go in thousands of years old, it allows pakistan to trace its roots thousands of years into the past, and it has been effected by the heavy rains that have inundated this part of the country. parts of this site have been washed away. bricks have been collected there that have been washed away by the heavy rains and we see bounds of rubble everywhere. so there has been damage to this site. the folks that operate this area say that it could have been much worse, that it could have been far more serious, but that they were spared. the rain spared the original structures that stand here . so what we're being told is that the conservation work that has been done here over the years. that is what is suffered in the last few heavy rains that have come

through this part of send and taylor. for that point, we'll look at the stoopa right here. this is the largest structure, the highest point of this site, the conservation work that had been done too in case the top of the stupid a, keep it intact, sorry to, to secured from the element that had been done recently. that had been washed away by the floods. the original structure were told remains intact. it's not as bad as it could have been. but the visit by the un team here is meant to illustrate a very important point. the human suffering is obvious and unparalleled. and you can't compare the loss of life to what's happening here. but at the same time, this is an existential threat. climate change is now beginning to wash away human history as well. ah. so this is out there are, these are the top stories in his harmony has been held in london to formerly proclaimed king charles the 3rd monica, the united kingdom, the 1st time in hundreds of years of the british monarchy. the session council has conducted his business in public. all the king made

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secretary general antonia tara says pakistan needs massive financial support. he's been visiting sind province to see the devastation for himself caused by the worth flooding. has been there in decades. your state, the headlines, more news coming up here and out 0. i'd after we visit the stream. what's most important to me is talking to people understanding what they're going through here . it is era. we believe everyone has a story worth hearing. i i am from the okay on today's epicenter string, when looking ahead to the october, the 2nd elections in brazil. there are 12 presidential candidates, but we're going to be looking at the leading to present. i am both tomorrow and also louis and asio new la da. silva here they are debating on august the 29th

through the shade. if the country i left is a country that the people miss, it was a country of employment. it was a country where people had the rights to live with dignity, with their heads up in this country. we'll come back, you can probably go to. so there was corruption, president lula. you want to come back. what for you to keep doing the same thing? and petro, battle rife, get a little bit there for the workers party, the worse off the people are the poor, the better for them to do politics of those, it will, if you so much. so you have 2 very different candidates. now, what would you like to know about them on today? show we are going to be exploring key campaign issues and what's at stake for brazilians. you can do and conversation right here in the comment section on you tube. ah, o i x y x that panel, hello elona. i be honest. this is so lovely to have all 3 of you here. we are going

to unpack the upcoming elections. what's at state? what's going on in brazil right now in no, no, welcome, please say hello to our audience around the world. thank your family. my name is alina zabel. i'm the co founder and president of they got are easy to get to have you. are diana, welcome. please say hello to our audience. thank you for having me. i me, i'm of the on the market. my manager asked students for liberty, brazil that to happen. and cecilia, nice to see you, please say as to see a to thank you so much for inviting me. i'm cecilia carnegie. i'm managing editor at americas quarterly. all right, very good. i am going to get you guess, to build a picture of what these 2 candidates are like. let's put up the candidate he's currently present at the moment. cecilia, tell me 2 things about almost an hour that would be helpful for him to national audience. to know. both narrow came and from left field even though his on the

right. he just surprised everybody when he got elected. he is a long time politician who was in congress for almost 30 years as a french character who just exploded in 2018 as the leading candidate with a discourse and a rhetoric of supporting families. freedom which to ham equates a right to have guns and against abortion and for family and specially religion. all right, and it did. cecilia, any of you anything more to add to pulse now so we get this instant picture of how he's campaigning. what is he's like, what did he style like? he didn't put him in the right place, but i would say that he's in a far life. are right. candidates very much like trump and the with there are abundant property so sorry, sorry to leave those that are trying to undermine democracy from where then. and that's an important feature for this election because it's a election about democracy. we have so it fills out,

we've got 2 polar opposites as leading candidates. so let's have a look at louise in last row, new lead to silver, put his candidate caught up and this time. and if you start with 2 things that would be helpful for us to know before we get deep into our conversation to her so little is pregnant that came from the people he had the to context of mandates and was responsible for include the most number, the populations in, let's say the lower and middle middle class. so he comes with a flag of we're going to be happy again. he last also with the corruption scandals . the processes that you are facing were notified by the justice system because they were not respecting the due process according to our supreme court. so he wants to come back to just try another another time to show what his bar to should

do for the brazilian people see here that yeah, and this is sort of a playback this election should have been in 2018. so in the 2018 hula was ahead in the polls when he was arrested and taken to jail under the legation that the, that he learned just mentioned. so he was taken out of that run right, a few months before the election. so now we're actually sort of re read the reliving a 2018 election. but guess lula has a banner of poverty fighting against poverty. he was a poor man himself. he came from a very, very poor family that migrated from the northeast almost on foot and had you know, very little education and sort of like pulled himself out from the bootstrap's and became a new union leader. very well known love to global that he is a relatively well spoken man. i mean, he really has the power of words and resonates with people. but so does both in are

in completely different narrative, but he's also incredibly powerful in his speech. i be on i'm wondering what the atmosphere is like in brazil right now, fema weeks to go before the elections. what is at stake for sale at this point in terms of social conditions, living conditions, what might be possible depending on what happens on october. the 2nd well actually we are facing a very polarized environment right now. we're sanctions are like all over the place. actually, i just hope that whoever gets elected, we have a little more space to debate peacefully because i see maybe there, there is a, arise of violent speeches, etc. so i'm kind of worried that this may get worse depending on who gets elected. can you give me an example when you say there's

a rise of violet speeches say you've got a better view of that than we have. what does that mean? what have you heard? basically on social media, i think ilana, will agree with me that something that we see every day actually on where people are attacking each other, you know, in a very hostile wait actually. and it seems like we can debate politics in the city more. i need you start and then cecilia, you pick out of that because i know that these are the very important the so i think i hate speech. this information is information is not new, but it has been with us in the last elections. but just to say that there is a different thing now, which is the rectory especially from being combined in terms of political violence that people should respond to any result which is not the result of he winnie with violence. take the guns that he allowed people to buy and then just in his speech,

protect democracy, which is which of course, i would argue that it's against the democracy, but that's, that's what is at stake. i believe a possibly a political violence. silica head. yeah, i was just going to add on a bit over adrian. actually throw you another question to to a loaner because the yeah, we're, we're seeing just today in the news again, another person who was killed by another one by an a political discussion. and the man just in killing each other, there was another men celebrating his birthday party was killed because he had little of banners around his birthday party. so this is trans ladies, it's moving out of social media and we had this push for more guns on the streets. and that to me is those scariest part of this moment in, in my country, is this push for more weapons and elona? that's what i would say because the, the rise was what, like some 300 percent more guns in the hands of civilians since 2018. something

like that. right? absolutely. cecilia. so this to say, you know, i work for over 20 years in civil society and like with a non partisan independent organization. but we're here really facing tracks. sure . the more graphic system watha down abroad in terms of a lack of dialogue. we had the closure of soup facing this country that was unprecedented since the dictatorship time. so what they're facing now is really the, the intent of not accepting their was the results of the election. and of course, society and institutions are pushing back against that. but we're having to restate every day our support for democracy to come through and my organization has been leading the gun control, i'd say initiative with another organization called the school to so the boss to, to be able to, to have on, let's say, a evidence based dialogue of what it means to leave in a democrat state or people have to like accept the rule of the law and cannot pick

justice into their own hands. i to on and let me share with you some headlines that we picked out their international headlines. i some concerns from outside of brazil, on my laptop here, brazil's presidential campaign kicks off. it made fears of violence. facebook i, when i met to it's failing to prevent a repeat of january the 6th in brazil report warns than imminent election crisis in brazil are these over wrought with these accurate i think it's accurate actually, because like i said, we are facing a very polarized campaign political campaign and, and since the beginning of the campaign i feel that things are getting a little bit worse in this sense. um, because like i told you before, you go social media in to see people are taking each other. like, it seems like we are not able to more to talk as individuals will have to respect each other's views. and that's something that really worries me because i, like helena said,

it's democracy who is at stake. so it's important to us to learn how to talk to each other again with respect and peacefully. let's talk about issues that are impacting voters. and sometimes what some of the campaign child is not what really is needed for the country. i'm wondering if there's a disconnect there, but for you to see that what is one of the most critical issues that will be important when people go to vote and they make that decision hunger. i think for, you know, if you have 33000000 people hungry and a country it's, you know, when he gets to the vote, it's one vote one person. it doesn't matter what your bank account is like. so right now we do have several cohorts of society that support one or the other, but a large one that they are hungry, they need food on the table. so i think that for a very large bit of the population, ah, because the 33000000 that are going hungry, then you can add easily several other 1000000 people who are just scraping by.

so once you have this scenario, i think that's what it's going to count the most at the moment of voting. i would agree just that the cost of living in general has increased the many as in many other parts of the world. but brazil faces an economic crisis. people are like with difficulty the fame, their b. o. so unemployment. i also see people worried about health and education. so the public goods provision and of course so violence, acute is always also in the order of the day. so it's a, it's a jobs economics and public goods election. what about indigenous vote is because often may all pushed out of the thinking of what, where is brazil going next? something that luna is always been thinking about, but both sonora has changed that trend in the last few years. climate save me amazon. who is that important to the vote is

that's very interesting question i, cuz i asked myself like, you know, you see the world looking at the brazil and thinking of brazil as, as, as a big amazon and to the issues there. but you go into the amazon and you see a population that needs jobs and who is employing them, who is giving them jobs, illegal loggers, illegal miners, and people who are pushing deforestation. so these are jobs and you know, the larger groups that are behind this push are not the ones actually doing, but cutting of the trees. so you have a real issue that both in our support in the north, despite his a b, let's say a weird environmental a policies it's, it's very strong because these are their jobs. so i think that there is a great disconnect there. but if i may say, so given the indigenous, i think that one thing that happened since 2018 is that the indigenous groups got

a lot more voice and guts and are getting a lot stronger. so i think if there is any benefit to the old is the, you know, insanity that it's happening on their situation. it's that even though it, the, because it got worse to them. i think they got more of a voice and they're getting heard more and more active and more organized even, you know, indigenous women are organizing and several other groups. so i think that there is strength in numbers and they are still need support from the outside. but i think they are getting stronger. let me just now weekly. sure. um yeah, i think i should have asked. no, i think that was a very important issue because it on the one hand cecilia sulkily. right, to say they got more voice and they're coming bigger numbers. i think it's the highest number since we started recording the number of candidates that self declare indigenous. but it's also because they are under threat your toward the territory or under threat. so they feel they need to mobilize politically. so you see a pushback and it's

a good the push back in the presentation and we hope you know, many of them get elected. i want to just play a little bite from luna to silva talking about the indigenous people for sale on why they are important to him and also to brazil. of course, as having listened this country cannot continue to be governed by someone who doesn't like indigenous people who doesn't like black people, who doesn't like women who doesn't like union leaders who doesn't like the amazon, who doesn't like serrato catania. the amazon rain forest who doesn't like it's people so we wouldn't be completely about talking about election without talking about misinformation. was the information out there. i think that that's now typical for every election that has any digital input i do on what's going on your what sat messages recently on one sec. yeah, actually yeah, there is a lot of fake news. we have a lot of groups today, so you can go around,

you know, in a what is dangerous about it is that information spreads really quickly. so i get something like, i don't know at 4 o'clock in than 430, everybody knows the same thing. and sometimes it's a misleading information that i have to have about asking what kind of misleading information. because then we've said it on al jazeera, but give me an idea of saying that is obviously so ludicrous that everybody is not going to believe it. um, basically formation about the 2 candidates leading candidates, both scenario and lula and misleading formation about both of them. that's what i see the most. actually like, like i said before, it seems like people can talk i'm, i'm on a peaceful level so they have to attack each other and most of the time using lice to do it. so, oh, i don't actually know her going to to when to fight this because everybody is free to share whatever they want. but, but it's a, it's

a problem we're facing right now because many people don't go after information to try to find the truth before themselves. and they believe the 1st thing they see yeah, this thing is now going on as i was just company, that is one of the scariest thing. yeah, and i would say one of the most of the mental one is the ones at the into question . our electoral voting system, which is a very modern $11.00 that elected including a current president. and you know that he and his group a tried the whole time to discredit the system, saying there is a secret room that would control and the fraud brazil's elections. and i think this is a very, very dangerous message, as unfortunately when we see the poles, the presence 2 or 3, i do believe that the election can be for other than the war fraud, even if he was elected. yeah, i yeah. he said that he wanted a 1st round,

he didn't lose. he didn't win and 2nd, right for them. right? not one example actually of you know, yes, it's running. if i don't when the election has been stolen. absolutely. let me, i guess it's so interesting area. we spoke to maria, who is the director of human rights watch in brazil, and this is what she told us. it's almost a warning for what may happen post october. the 2nd, let's have a look present both sonata who's running for reelection has sought to, in their mind trust in the electoral system, a lansing without providing any proof that it isn't reliable. in addition to be attacking the independent media attacking the judiciary, there had been no proof in cases of fraud in brazil feast we adopted the electronic electoral system more than 20 years ago. it's crucial that the international community act in their way that support free and fair elections in brazil, and then the clear cut method to wilson that, that any attempt to not respect,

then we will proceed and voters will not be tolerated. so that's an issue that we don't know if it's gonna happen yet. there's some concern, but we don't know quite yet. i want to give our viewers watching this, or a little snippet of boston arrow to see his confidence at this stage in the campaign. and then i'm gonna open up our conversation. we have so many questions for you guess on youtube. we're going to do a speed around and see how many of them we can outset and address. but 1st his pastor, boston, our it is good. good. we know that we have a fight between good and evil ahead of us. the evil that lasted for 14 years in our country that almost broke our homeland are done now wants to come back to the crime scene. they won't. the people are by our side. the people are on the good side, the people know what they want. oh, all right, so let's go to youtube. got so many questions and comments. renato, for instance,

says president boston r. i refused to buy pfizer vaccines. there were so many avoidable deaf c also not people dying without breath. it's clearly a death for our democracy. that is when our toes perspective, but it's interesting that for this home 20 minutes or so, nobody mentioned covered a loaner. why? well, i would say because we're dealing with the threat of the day, but that was a huge issue in brazil, several 100 people, almost dad. there's a research that shows that 4 out of 5 of these that would be preventable if the government had acted. the president was denied himself as a denial for climate change, for instance. but he was against masks. he was against buying rights, him like vaccines. so our governors actually did a great job and provide a motivation as brazil has like a very high records of immunizing our population. but as far as the now the on to

back to the movement also real in the come through. so that was absolutely failure . and a lot of like a suffering that should be prevented. all right. i think you mentioned this early on how divided resilience right now. how youtube comments? a completely divided as well. edwardo new ella was the biggest thief in our country . mo, both narrow is i want to be trump. what do we get out of that situation? if we've got one group saying your candidate is wrong, another group saying your candidate is well, who suffers or who benefits? arianna? and i think who suffers the most is this the marsey itself because like i said, a democracy is a to democracy, to be strengthened. we need a scenario where people can dialogue, you know, and that's what i'm, i'm not seeing happening. so this is my main concern about the elections

and as you can see, we are facing a very paralyzed scenario. so, so i is just like a little microcosm of what is happening. i'm sure, in brazil, i've got this really interesting comment here to see. i'd love to unpack it and, and maybe add to it if you can. the brazilian people want post to narrow, but the lease one lula. that's one person's take. can you? yeah, it's interesting. it's so interesting that you know, and then if you ask that will be someone else would say the opposite. really, zachary, already both and around the lives that, that's the, we got the to the situation where it's not an election of which policy we want. it's an election of which, which met though, which idol we have. so it's really a right now. we're having this dispute of like mike and it is better than yours and this is the good versus evil. i'm election in not an election on issues and what

brazil needs coming forward. and i don't know how we get out of this, but this comment just paints. to me brings a exactly, this idea that some people will say what he said, right? the rich and the port, the are, you know, a seminar commentary would assume you're interested in head, but it's neither. you have supporters for both in both areas. you have, you know, real elite supporting both scenario and you have real, you know, india have the poor electing a supporting lula as well. so it's, it's, that's definitely not the issue. but if you get, you know, a comment from one side or the other that you are going to get this is, you know, this think that it's just like we are in a stalemate, right now. we're not discussing issues. we're discussing who i like and who i don't to see that that me is such a way to getting to pedro's question. we've only got a minute to answer it, but they do it very quick quickly. if you can patch, i want to know what are the main points and plans of each government. a lula

government and a continued both to narrow carpet isn't really clear to the voters that they've got different plans. i think in the public debate, it's less clear. i think when you read the programs, you see that that one candidates are not or is, is more of the same in terms of what he planned to do before, but he didn't deliver on to corruption. but there are many corruption scandals in his government that the most secretive governments, since the faith or shipping brazil don't know much, i think many things will come later. he also promotes the liberal economy, but didn't believer billie brook on that the liberals wanted the either in brazil. so lola comes back with the, let's include people. let's also put amazon back at the amazon forest back into the, you know, priority was over the country. let's have a education and health as a priority for, for all. so i think it's a more inclusive set of proposals, but i wanted to say so that was to see a mention. we don't have enough theater to look at in that. yeah,

we're at the very end of the shows that i'm glad that you are able to say that very briefly. and that i have time to say thank you and lona: adiana, cecilia, i don't of your excellent questions on you cheap. i feel i got a little bit of the election bonds right here in the comment section. and so watching, i see you next time, take everybody. ah . beneath the surface lies a dark aside in british politics, an exclusive al jazeera investigation. coming scene indonesia, your investment destination, the world's 10 largest economy is busy transforming, ready to be your business partner with a robust talent pool, politically and economically stable and strong policies. being the powerhouse

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