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since operate as 3 times their capacity inmates have less than one square meter of space, the standard is $3.00. over crowding is blamed our judicial negligence and incompetence and cover. but there, as it will have the judicial excuse, is that they don't have enough judges a lot. have you don't respect the law that limits how long you can between a prison and no judges on strike to modern bits of paper, which means the conflict into cases after we about many of the prisoners should not be in detention. the interior ministry says 75 percent of inmates haven't been convicted. many are awaiting trial, while others aren't able to pay their fines. the crisis is another example of as the falling apart. and while conditions have always been bad, inmate say it's never been like this center for their osha cedar boot ah.
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the current top stories here on al jazeera quinn, elizabeth's 4 children have performed a traditional vigil around the coffin of their late mother, said giles, as cathedral and edinburgh, britons new king charles. the 3rd stood for 10 minutes with his siblings, princess, an prince, edward, and prince andrew. or the queen's coffin will lie at rest in scotland for 24 hours . where morn as you can see them filing in there and those live pictures can come and pay their respects before coffin moves to london later on tuesday for madison has more, it's a time when the family is able to show their respect. so they're there to a certain extent, humility, i suppose, but certainly they indicate how somberly they take this situation publicly to the members to the people around them to, to show their public respect for queen elizabeth to 2nd. it is
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a very unusual situation. in one respect, because this is the 1st time that a moment has taken part in it, the princess, of course the princess while is the queen's daughter and is therefore the entitled to take part. in this, earlier in the day, thousands lined the streets of the scottish capital to pay tribute to queen elizabeth the 2nd king charles joined his siblings as they score to the coffin through edinburgh in a historic procession. russia is acknowledging huge losses in ukraine's northern car cave reach. and moscow admits his forces have been numbered in the past week with ukraine retaking swathes of land since early september. ukrainian troops of advance rapidly areas that to rush amongst the seas have been re take an injustice . gives forces say they've pushed russian troops nearly back to the northern border . ukraine says it's also may gains in the size near her phone, but at a slower pace. rebels in ethiopia, northern tiger region say that they're ready for mutually agreed. she's far with
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the government and they would accept a peace process led by the african union. it is a major breakthrough with the rebels previously opposing any you involvement. while the t p l f. outline for conditions for a truce in an open letter to the un security council. those are your top stories to stay with us. the stream is coming next. ah ah hi, anthony ok today on the stream. how is extreme weather changing pakistan at the moment,
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moment about 33000000 people have been impacted by very severe floods. during this current monsoon season, more rain is on the way. earlier we spoke to add one con about conditions on the ground. over a 1000000 people in buck is done currently do not have shoot. keeping under the sky, williams, more needful parcels. hygiene kids kitchen sits and fresh water every day. many of the roads have been washed away. so the aide is taking in trucks as close as possible, some days transferred to smaller vehicles from the stratford, even to richard bicycles, whatever. and in other areas, people waiting in water and also using boatswain necessary to deliver the aid. it's a logistical nightmare. so a logistical nightmare for pakistan right now. but what about managing extreme weather in the future? that is our discussion. you are welcome to it. i comment section on youtube is life
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join us. ah and i conversation today we have zane and so when i'm i is shut. zane, welcome to the stream. i am in basra via emergency room correspondence reporting on the floods in pakistan . thank you so much. hello. so when i get to have you on the screen, welcome. thank you for having me on solomon sophie on the head of 5, mr. clark, st. strategic response. yet to have you and i ye show, so good to have you in this particular discussion. welcome to the stream. why quite high? i'm anxious, enrica, i'm a climate and human rights advocate in an research scholar at the new school. what so good to have you. so i am thinking about the pressing needs right now, and the best way to sum up the pressing. these are really to be on the ground to be
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amongst the people and see the people i want to show you a little clip from some reporting that zoning has just been doing, saying it is of a woman who is trying to get some food. she has a family to feed, were hear more about home, just a moment and then i'm going to ask you, what is going to happen to her? let's have a look at the clip festival. oh, this is the face of hunger, said to describe what is happening here in desperation, trivializes the extent of the suffering he spoke to for his i know she was headed into the fray. she says she had no choice, you know. oh it again, ben, would you go? no, no houses have fallen down. you don't have teens. we can't shade our children from the sun. our houses have been submerged. i swear to god,
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there is nothing left. all our belongings have been washed away, but we poor our children are sick. they are just sitting there. same was going to happen to the santa that's, that's a very big question. what's interesting listening to that again is that for zona, like so many other people was not from the village that, that a drop was meant to be for. she'd come from another village that didn't have enough . and so a lot of the time people are accused of not being as needy of the actual needy people. so when she said, i swear to god, our houses have fallen down and we need help. what she was saying was meant for the soldiers that were standing next to me to explain to them that they shouldn't be pushing her and other people away because they are just as needy as everybody else . and that's, that's a very common thing here. there, there isn't enough food to go around there just isn't. and there's all these big ideas of trying to discuss climate change of trying to discuss how we take care of
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the macro economic situation and for people like her really it's very basic. it's day to day, they're hungry, they're hungry now and they need help with their hunger and their thirst, their new clean water, they need shelter to shade themselves in the sun. they need it. now. what's gonna happen to her is probably more of what you saw. you know, she's, she had 5 other kids back in the village, the littlest one. she had to bring with her because she couldn't leave him behind to take care of himself. and it was, it was really harrowing for us that we were actually there right next to her when she was trying to grab the food. the camera man who was filming actually tried to stop, but he was doing to try to grab the child. and that's when you saw the soldier come in and help her out of the scrum and help her with the, with the bag of goods that she was getting. so it's really hard to say, i mean if i'm being totally honest, most of the people in her situation are more than likely to face more difficulties
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before things get better because there's just not enough food. there's just not enough stuff to go around. and there's too many people that need help. so why not saying reporters perspective talking to people traveling around them. and you've also been traveling around with the prime minister and seeing the dire need. if so many people are hungry and now they're getting really angry. so hungry and angry and cut off. how do you deal with that? are you a quick to deal with as you can see on the down pockets and is basically facing a catastrophe, unprecedented nature. i think this is one of the biggest human tragedies that is occurring and south asia and focus on it's been like, you know, the forefront of it. and as far as your question is concerned, we are not equipped as much as you know. we want to because this was just, i didn't see them that just like took
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a took everyone by surprise and for because of the climate change that the whole board is facing. but unfortunately, focused on, despite contributing very little to the climate crisis in the world, has been at the forefront of this disaster. if i may, you know, not to interrupt. yeah. not to interrupt, but i don't think you've answered the question. the question is, how is your government preparing for the future? not what it could have done to prepare for now. i know i'm getting to that. i'm just trying to explain the situation on the ground. so before i can complete the answer. so as your representative was also saying, you know, there's a home that has been destroyed and around 3000 miles of fluids that have been damaged. so it's very hard for us to reach everywhere, but we are doing the best possible that we can do. you know, n d m a n d m a focus on probably the longer the national disaster management
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authority has been doing maximum ass orders that they can minister has. and so making sure that the food of you know which, which is available to us, it has been provided to the people who are something if it goes, i know you're not really true and start entirely true. because if a prime minister cannot even get on the ground to support his people not even touched the land that he claimed to represent windows feet and throws bags of ration at some guy is not helping in full capacity. no, i don't. i disagree with that because prime minister has been visiting all of the 4 provinces on a daily basis. he has been reaching wherever you can by year he has been reaching wherever he can buy ground and he cannot mentor you after. what's your government plan after the water dissipate? what's your government plan for next week?
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we are working on 4 pronged approach. as we, as i was trying to explain, the rehabilitation is one of them. so once we tackled with the 4 crisis and we get all the donations that we have been receiving from the partners that we're going to be working on rehab in addition and communication, especially transportation is the number one issue. so as i'm speaking even right now, the power outages that have been in the areas are being fixed. the roads have been constructed and especially the food supplies trying to be maintained. so we can provide food to as many people as possible because you have to understand the public and pakistan cannot even see you. i think i have no restaurant or this because the situation is unfolding on the ground. you are based in us. so i'm sure you with a bargain on you will be able to see the figures as well, but there's a non half a 1000000 people in displacement gaps. so it's like a huge task. and any country in this situation would be dealing with the situation
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. as we are right now and things are going to take time, but things are going to get a shot. i'm wondering when somebody says we could not foresee this level of extreme flooding. super flood jane monsoon season as a climate activists. when someone says i could not foresee this, what is the 1st thought that comes into your head? i think that sympathetic response is especially for a government that's font so hard to be in power. if your country consistently is listed one of the top 10 nations to be affected by climate change, you absolutely need to take that into account. how are you going to accomplish overland when it is flooded, when it no longer exists? and the climate change has increased heat where you can pug on by threefold 30 percent. this government was empower when it was under heat waves.
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dal was on press, it entered, but then it had a chance 10 to take appropriate measures. it didn't. and now this is happening and it has a chance to take appropriate measures. but all we hear are p r c p our statement. let me go back so i don't think that's accurate. i think that's a very politically charged statement that miss i show has made or the government came into our in april or may. and the climate change has been happening for far longer. you know from that no government like, even in pakistan, are you s, are you ok? you have seen devastating floods in europe as well in europe as well. and no country has like the capacity to do, especially a country like vargas i was already facing our crippling economic issues. and the government is committed and is actually working nonstop around the block in progress. and to make sure that people who are united get the helped me. all right, so, so i'm, i'm, i'm,
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i'm gonna allow some of our audience here watching on youtube to come in here zane standby, i'm going to put these questions to you. i'm gonna give you a couple because of the, the delay that we have between me and then hearing you say on youtube, i've got fires or sang when it comes to government release and rehabilitation. there's a concern between about pakistan's, present government. it is in shambles. that's one thought thing. let me give you a 2nd one. this is from the v. most areas affected by the floods are still inaccessible. and because there's been damage to the infrastructure. thank. can you help me out on those 2 questions coming from our audience? sure. so i'll address the 1st question by sort of talking about what the other 2 guests were saying. as you know, as everything in pakistan tends to be, it becomes everything becomes very politicized. but i can tell you on the ground right now, nobody cares about the politics of any party. those that are displaced by these
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floods. the people that have been, you know, whose homes have been swept away and completely destroyed, who are hungry right now. who haven't eaten in several days. some of them haven't eaten properly in a week. 10 days, 2 weeks. they don't care about anyone's politics. and as an example of that, we were in baluchistan province earlier today, and we met person after person in a village called a lawyer and in just about district. and what people kept saying there is that we're hungry, the trickle down system of aid that goes from federal provincial to municipal, to the feudal lords, to local leaders, to the people that isn't trickling down at all or fast enough. they blame corruption. they blamed favoritism, they blamed not enough aid to go around this disparity, literally on. so people are on the sides of the road. half of the road that is filled with homeless, newly homeless people will have blue, tense sent in from china. and then the other half will not. and the reason for that
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is because they only wrote down 100 names to distribute that day. and the bureaucracy doesn't allow for any more distribution, the people that need the help don't care about any political party. one guy even said that please tell the international donors not to donate to the people donate directly to the army. they will give it to us. now, the politics of that, there's a long history there. there's a lot of problems, but what people are doing now is looking to the strongest, most well resource institution to help them because there is a deep loss of trust in the political system in their civilian leaders. and you'll find someone to blame any political party, no matter who they are right now. the flood is, is washing over all political boundaries and affecting everyone. and the level of impatience is growing. as far as infrastructure. absolutely, roads are gone, rail lines are gone. people are operating boats in what were farm fields. they have like 10 feet of water in them to try to get to villages to shuttle people back and forth for medical treatment to rescue pregnant women and take them to the hospital
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. so infrastructure is a serious problem, helicopters can only fly so far, and then doing sort of food drops it, it always, you know, it's, it's not working. we've seen problems with that where food aid isn't being delivered properly. and this is where, you know, the military is very good at being a military, but it comes to humanitarian relief. they need more civilian support and there isn't that level of infrastructure to help them deal with with what is truly a civilian matter. but they are the most well resource, strong strongest institution in the country and people are turning to them to expect them to help, but how far they can help they're limited in what they can do as well. so infrastructure is definitely a problem. roads have been swept away, and again there's, there's not enough space to house people and there's not enough food to go around. so we have 2 issues here, multiple issues, but 2 big problems challenges. one is right now, looking after people right now. flood survivors right now, and then preparing for the future. and you may remember that they mentioned
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a place that he's just been early one day called joe cope. bad. i want to show you is it impacts on it was what the hottest place in the country just a few weeks ago. so i'm just looking at the temperature because it is hard for me to believe $51.00 celsius, a $121.00 fahrenheit. so you go from extreme heat, let me show you the picture here from extreme heat to flooding. let me show you the pictures. go ahead. let's have a look here. so what you go from in may, is the heat wave in may with those extreme temperatures. and then in late august, we have flooding. this is going to be not an extraordinary situation, is going to be a regular situation. early on we spoke to sharing a mom. she is the federal minister for climate change for pakistan. this is what she told us. m g and g admissions are not reduced, global warming will not change in pakistan as we build back. we surely need to
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adapt better in many places for climate resilience, but at the same time under other countries reduced emissions as promised and previous. oh god, events, climate disasters will hit frontline countries like bogus, done with increasing magnitude the dime to change that is now someone i haven't seen other countries rallying around helping for aid yet, but not thinking about the future and not maybe looking at a greenhouse gases or g h d as as sherry roman with step just a little bit earlier and not looking at the root cause they're trying to put a band aid on the wound. salmon. yes, absolutely. you know, as a matter of fact, box on carbon footprint is only 25 to point one percent. but, but you know, the response off, you know, blow but you know, climate change the boxes and receiving as you would,
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right. you mention the heat wave and even pockets on is rac 18 out of $191.00 countries and inform risk index. so that's like a big implication and focus on the economy box on to security. and i would like to add, i think there was one point that was very rocky mentioned by your representative on the ground just today did was amount for 20000000000 repeat that was earmarked for the flood defect. but that has been enhanced to 70000000000 today. and this is exactly what we are working with international organizations and international donors. with that, let's not put bandied on the situation like tense and food and all of that helps. but what would really need help is and building infrastructure and especially helping us with food security. and especially developing those policies, which can help countries like pockets on the goods. today's focus on tomorrow can be any other country in the neighborhood. but those countries or countries are responsible for the most damaged climate change, they must assist countries focused on developing policies which can ensure that
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pocket on does not face this kind of a calamity. again, because we are enormously not that strong. and i would even through your program, did the countries should contribute into the best program because that is your mark just for the side effect you going forward from today. and 70000000000 has been given from the government, but the more we have, the more will be able to, despite the fact, even especially by developing and making the homes for people who have lost their homes by mathias, which are easily available. and which can be constructed rather than like brick and mortar. so that is our number one concern, especially, you know, as a brain beat is our main issue right now, because most of the land which is under water, i'm sorry, i think go ahead. if i could, those are those sound like really good, big, important, big ideas, but i can't put a finer point on this. those are it, it's,
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it doesn't help anyone discussing those things. now because the people we've spoken to, they're literally surviving day to day, in some cases, one meal to the next within a span of a few hours. right now, discussing new policy, big infrastructural changes, all of this very big top, heavy bureaucratic stuff is not saving lives right now. there are serious considerations i want to talk like over in baluchistan and all over the country. literally living in camps and on the sides of the road. i'd like to give you an example. if i could, i'd like to give you an example of how at risk a lot of these people are. they need immediate help. they need security of any food banks. they need enclosed 10 cities with actual security. we met a mother in below just on sitting on a 4 post rope bed in front of a tent on the side of the street. and she, her husband is, is like a construction worker, a builder, a labor she goes out onto the street begging. and then they sweep out in the open
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because there might home was washed away by the floods. at night a week ago, her 3 year old daughter was taken away from her, she was sleeping, and her daughter was kidnapped because they were out in the open. she said if she had a home to live in, it wouldn't have happened. she doesn't know if someone kidnapped her, that's what she suspects, but she thinks she's a 3 year old. she may have wandered off and fallen into the nearby flood, standing flood water and drowned. but no bodies have come up yet. and she says she just wants to know what happened, not knowing is worse than finding her dead body. so there are real risks posed imminent risk posed to people that are here right now. any big idea if i can perhaps down the line, but right now i need immediate response. so that's not happening. so i'm on hold tight for me because they can't hear you because of the that the movement between why he is and where you all. if i, ma'am, just going to push on a little bit cuz i don't want to get stuck on one point. then you have made that point very clearly,
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people are hungry and they need to be that they need food to get to them. i want to bring in shows up here who has an idea of this can't be the status quo. things have to change. i asia will you haven't listened to showed up and then outdoor thought immediately of the back of it. here's shop, given lead marcusson's and me to reuben, the global elite would be personally affected by these floods in the long term. we can't expect these alerts to bring about those fundamental changes, those investments in health, housing, and flood mitigation infrastructure that would lessen the long term impact of these floods. those fundamental changes, if they do come, we'll come from below, from amongst the poor, from amongst progressive forces. and we're already seeing this mobilization going below with cost for climate, reparations, but also with a glory critique amongst the poor of pakistan's leads for their enduring disregard ordinary box and the people. and every time zene opens his mouth,
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my heart starts racing because i don't think there. so mine, even i to the point of how absolutely emotional this is the entire country. and one 3rd of it is under water. and 33000000 people are such. it is only going to get worse. scientifically speaking, the water will not evaporate for 2 months. when it does not evaporate, mosquitoes are going to come. that means that there's going to be more malaria, more color, more fe, fever. our health care infrastructure is already in rural and it's going to cause what is already a massive crisis to get into another massive crisis. you began this panel by saying that hungry people get angry, hungry people are already angry. they're furious. yes, they don't care who is in power. what they need is immediate relief. and if a minister and somebody who is claiming to represent international
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relations cannot even give you a plan for next week than me. and so we are in a game or a situation than we started with in regards to climate change. yes, it's been going on for a long time, but that also means that it is the responsibility of the government in power to put in plans appropriate enough to combat climate change. the global north has contributed limited funds to the people of fog, a son that is also a truth multiple can exist at the same time. lawson damage finance was committed in 2009. that is $9000000000.00 a year by the united states and the european nations shall come to the people in fog. a son are you sure we are at the end of this show? we are not at the end of this conversation. obviously though, so much more to talk about. so i want i aisha. so my, i, i don't have points time to allow you to do that, but i want to bring in one more thought here we will get you back because this is
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not a 25 minute conversation and then we're done. so i just want to bring in one thought, here from ali to day. it's pakistan to morrow could be any other nation. that's all take climate change as a personal responsibility. every action counts. this conversation is not over. how will pakistan handle climate change and extreme weather? we will see as we go forward into the future. thanks for watching. see you next time. ah, ah. ah
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