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that are really disturbing. if you are someone to follow twitter, ah, all right, let's have a quick check of the headline terminology 0 and the coffin, a queen elizabeth. the 2nd is now in buckingham palace, after being flown from scotland. traffic came to a standstill. throughout much of london, this thousands lined the streets in the rain to catch a glimpse of the hearse. the new king charles the 3rd his wife, the queen consort at the palace to receive the coffin. earlier on tuesday, king charles the 3rd made his 1st visit to northern island since taking the throne hundreds gathered in hillsboro to welcome him and the queen consoled the sovereign also met leaders of northern islands to fall to parliament. us markets have plummeted after monthly inflation increase marginally instead of coming down like many analysts predicted markets in asia have all opened lower on the back of those
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figures. i did your castro's more from washington dc and we saw there were a stay for wall street in more than 2 years. what the dow jones are closing at down more than $1200.00 points that was close to 4 percentage points loss. and this was a direct reaction to the early report of the consumer price index, showing that inflation there in the month of august, in the us was still an 8.3 per cent. and in fact, the tick higher than it had been in july. the u. n, the u. s. in the e. u, of called for an immediate de escalation of fighting between armenia and as a by john 49 armenian troops, and 50 as a by johnny soldiers were killed and fighting on monday night. ukraine says it say me to take back all of its territory under occupation by russian forces he claims military has been under a rapid counter offensive to the northeast. president vladimir lensky says, ukraine is in full control of more than 4000 square kilometers. recapture touch
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i am at 7 dean and welcome to the stream. mexico is national guard is now under direct military control after congress, back to bill spearheaded by the countries president and the race. manuel lopez open the door, says the move will help in the fight against violent crime. but critics are questioning his motives today. we ask, what does military control of policing mean for mexico? ah, joining us today we have under lucia sold off a journalist in mexico city, anna loraina delgado, his deputy director at foundation for justice and human rights organization. she's in washington, d. c. and last but not least, catalina put as katia is a professor and researcher at the center for research and teaching of economics. she joins us from august gradient this. we also, of course, want to hear your thoughts here at the stream. so if you're watching us on youtube joined the chat and be part of today's conversation. all right, let's get straight to it. so many questions here. really,
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i want to ask you under the caea lopez over door really ran on a premise of sort of, you know, ending corruption and sort of the drug war and all the violence that we've been seeing for well over a decade. why as he made this, you turn in his pledge to kind of send the soldiers back to the barracks. yes, this is the question that we are all asking, especially men and the people who did vote for him in the 1st few years. one of his campaign slogans and ones being president was a, but i thought no by last of which means hug not bullet. and then the country has really been a security crisis. not just since he took power more in the past 15 years since the former president really but gather on, started a military strategy which has led to the death of over 200000 people. and over 100000 people who are disappeared. but with about to said that he was going to
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break from this military strategy and get to the core of in responding with education and more opportunities for young people, which you said was the basis of why there was so much violence. and when he was al, questioned a few weeks ago, it is morning presidential conference by a journalist of why he had changed his mind. a basically just that, that's it. i changed my mind, i didn't work and now i change my mind. so he didn't really give a more of an explanation more that he himself saw that his strategy of security was not working with i do agree with. but i turned into a militarized strategy is just returning to i'll completely failed strategy from the right. i failed strategy that his predecessors, which he criticized, of course when he was running, you know, all to, well that, that it's not a winning strategy. i want to ask you a couple, you know, based on what you heard. you know, we, we have, let's actually 1st listen to lopez over door in his own words as well as an opposition politic who clocks back to him as he tries to justify this. take
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a listen. it propulsion. oh, let me see that he's purpose of this is not militarization or moved towards authoritarianism, but to take a under the vigilance at the defense ministry, the healthy growth of what should be the main public security institution of the countries. i know they like to leave this is mindy really no, we will not allow a permanent state of siege to be established in this country. as the president of the republican planning to come will open ended. but if you didn't know if we had that, you know what comes to mind when you hear that framed as healthy growth? is mexico growing healthily? no, i mean, i think we need to understand the fact that what is happening today in mexico and, and the decisions the local hope all is making doesn't just come out in terms of security. we. this has happened in a context for the president has been very openly critical to the courts that oppose
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the policies to the press. and we have, you know, the most violent one of the most violent countries against journalists in the, during president president law, both over about a government we have had a maximum of journalists killed by organized crime or, you know, unresolved crime. and also he's been very critic against his critics on his up of the opposition party. so i think it's important to understand this because we're military, i think public security tasks, not so in any context, but in the context of the president becoming more and more powerful. and the national guard is going to have a lot of different functions. some of them they can buy on our phones, we can, i, on, on the internet. they will be in charge of investigating crime of preventing crime . they'll be in charge of guarding prison be in charge also of making accusation.
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so as they have a very, very large amount of faculty in terms of what, what their. busy everything or the powers that they are getting through these reforms, right. and i'm not consolidation of power is what so troubling just the scale of it and sort of the speed and raising a lot of questions of what that means for mexico in general. but also, what ambitions that might might reflect that, you know, lopez over door might have, i do want to share with you on youtube. we have mark nora thing isn't mexico and norco state. how can there ever be any solution when the entire political structure has been bought by the cartels? we also have other people making the point that the problem isn't necessarily whose military it is, but who actually actually controls it. the more you centralize the power or the greater the chance that one single person can weaponized a it against any one that's michael henderson. we also heard i actually, we invited the president's communication team to, you know,
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have their viewpoint be included in this conversation. unfortunately, we didn't hear back, but we did receive um, this video from the president of the senate in mexico. take a listen. we. he google are in the performance muslim world. mexico has been experiencing a very difficult time in the past few years regarding security issues. recent national studies show that the majority of mexicans are accepting of the national guard. that is to say that there is a level of credibility in this institution that was started during this government administration. that address, manuel lopez open door has been in charge of since 2018. that is why it is an issue that is so important for the lives and heritage of the mexican people. and why the senate has decided to strengthen this institution. we think it is necessary for tactical operational commands to exist on a federal level that works in coordination with the $32.00 states and the more than 2 and a half thousands municipalities. so mumbo equal another
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n o we heard the other 100, they're speaking of credibility. is there any credibility? well, what we can see is not a lot of people in mexico support in the army. and, and this is something that the mexican britain is using, or promoting immunization in mexico. the thing is that a people in need security now our country, we agree with some of the comments of the people who had but some questions of, from the audience. a, we agree done, we have a very biology teacher and in mexico we agree that we need to do something to stop at work. we think that many days session is not their way to do it, and he are very concerned. for example, a dad did the brittany's bushing very moist negotiation, but by the other side, he's not concerned about how our you, the shall a bower or our goose and sees them is working. it, you see, for example,
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we have can all stool more than 100000 people that had been these have been in our country and say we come on really very 7 air convictions for these appearances. so that gives you an idea about how is working. i will a you, the shall cease them if we don't put enough effort trying to change the prosecution system in our country. ha, my gene a, the, i mean is going to the tain. a lot of people after that, those people who have been detained are going to go to a day, fidel or the locker system. and the prosecution system east collapse it. yeah. so what is how it all okay. yeah. go ahead. no, i just, i just want to jump in for also for what the senator said. you know, the, it's true that we have a very violent situation in mexico, but it's also true if, if you see the powers that are actually giving to the national garden to the
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military. there not only for combat thing organized, crime their, their powers even to stop you in a traffic light and give you a parking ticket. i mean it, and you know that there's absolutely no correlation between the size of the violent problem that we have in mexico and the powers of those that are being given. you know, we also have this idea that a one size fits all solution to the crime in mexico is going to be, you know, helpful when we have a very large country of problems in the border with the us are very different than the problems that we have in central mexico are the ones that we have in the coast of the gulf of mexico, or in the border with what they're my lower we have migrants coming in. and this, this idea of the transition was going to solve all these questions, right? so i'm, and because you bring up migration or immigration, i mean, we've seen the ports, we've seen airports, we've seen train projects. so many things, as you alluded to earlier, coming under the purview, the control of this one entity. and, and, you know, with that in mind, i saw, so you all seem like you want to jump in,
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but we also have people on youtube timing in a lot of people kind of pointing to or asking questions about this sort of contradiction. like, it seems that the military or the navy and the marines are the most trusted, but at the same time, this consolidation of power is the most dangerous thing, maybe for the future of mexico is, is that true? how do you marry those 2 realities? i think that people do of entrust more in the army because the police are known to be very corrupt. but it doesn't mean that there is not corruption in the, in the armed forces or violations of human rights. also, there's been a huge propaganda campaigns, including parade, putting military helicopters and doing based painting for children so that they believe in the military. and so the government, not just this government, but mexican government for the past few decades, has been propping up the military. but also if we talk about corruption,
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we have the case of id, not the of the 43 disappeared students that when they all were attacked 8 years ago, i in the state of yeah, right. oh, the government tried to say that it was just local police working with our members of organized crime, but a very exhaustive investigation has shown that the army was involved and that the army, it is believed now that there was an army general that murdered 6 of these students, right, um and last year when the i had of the army was detained in the united states were legit tied to drug trafficking right on the mexican government. the give negotiated so that he would be left free and not actually be prosecuted. so there clearly is corruption and murder that happens at the hands of the military just left a few weeks ago. a young girl was murdered, right on the border it nuevo laredo right handler. right. and of course there are no explanations. i think you're referring to the 5 year old girl which made headlines, but of course no accountability, no real probing into how to prevent this in the future. i do want to ask you,
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when we, you know, we know, for example, that the numbers simply don't lie. some of you have shared some of the statistics with our audience, 200000 federal troops now policing the streets as we speak more than twice the number as under any precedent predecessor. with that in mind, i want to share with you what one relative of a violent kind of attack on how to say about the violence and, and how he frames and views this as the experiences that take listen give me an email to misspelled bethel, read, morgan we live in a state of terrorism, in a large portion of the country. there's terrorism in our country. there's an internal armed conflict that is creating terror, fear, and violence. we can't live in peace as all the mexican people want. as the government doesn't want to acknowledge it, we ask the un to officially recognized there's an internal armed conflict in mexico mccormick. he come with his lap up. and the lorena,
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do you think that that would help if the un where to make that classification? no, i think that it, what we need is to put the forward in some other issues as mexico is forgetting about us. i say that in my fairs, a opinion that you the shall power is very important during these moments. and we have seen that the britain, but also the parliament has violated our constitution. and we need a very strong do the shad power to make control in all day things that have been have been in our country. the other is dad a. he's very well know in, in general, in even by the may and nations, but also for the day inter make i to maurice commission. they have clearly stated that augment arm and force should only interview in a, in public security, embarrassed in their career and variety basis. i mean, the deception as it goes, stance is east breaking dod, mexico's making a rule using the army for
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a step before 4 is security does. i'm for somewhat more there, a dust. yeah. so the geisha we every worry for example, that they are going to be part of the investigations or we have seen it. we a, for example, represent big themes of mos up cares and be say my grandson, have been disappear. i need to tell him to see geisha while he, we have seen is what it does when they are me east part of an investigation. they never did. you have the information, right? of right, of course and, and, and of course, you know, we've seen the, sorry that, i don't mean to interject. i mean, we've seen this with governments who are averse to accountability, whether mexico or israel, or what have you. it's a, it's a common pattern, right, and catalina, and so to bring it back to sort of what the people can do, what can be done about this beyond, ah, sort of political opposition. i want to share with you on some footage and, and what some of the protesters in mexico city who were really protesting against
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the move to expand the judiciary and many things how to say take a listen katerina. oh, i see no, get him with them. he don't want a militarized national guard. we say no to a military state. we want to live in peace. you are already suffering from repression. we are already living in a silent war again in that get a few minutes. you'll, catalina, you know, these protests that we see and, and this show in these conversations, what do you think is the 1st step to do to really trying to prevent this sort of consolidation of power? is it too late? i think in many ways, it's too late. but i mean that right now, even at this moment, there's another proposal being talked of in the house of chambers where they're expanding the use of the military 5 more years for the, for the federal government. i think people can write to the congress person. we can
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also, you know, write on, on social media. we can go out on the street and protest again. but i, i really see that they just don't want to listen. and it's, it's very worrisome because they're there now. ok, ruling as if they were, they would always be in power. and i think something that has to be done is, you know, when you make lost, you have to imagine yourself as being on the other side of power, not on the side of power. and i think somehow we need to make our legislators understand this. you know, i want to share with you ladies. a lot of people paying attention in our youtube channel asking some questions. maybe you can feel the mattie de saying, why is the states and their guns influence not part of this important discussion. obviously for our audience, who does not know recently, i believe this year, cartels were in control of 4 major cities. we've often seen the justification for
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this militarization and as we've heard, you know, be due to that kind of cartel violence. but we also have someone asking another question until always saying, since we've identified a serious problem and the panelists have made it clear that the solution is not military control, how do we kill corruption? how do we change the behavior of thousands of people? it, it, it feels like a lot of people getting to this question of how it feels like there's nothing to be done. i mean, some people even asking, is it far fetched to imagine a military coup as we've seen in many other south american countries. i mean, there's some nuance here, right? we're talking about the militarization of mexico. but if i'm not mistaken all in all mexico relative to a lot of other countries nearby in that region, maybe has that has less of a role the military, is it less of a kind of military dictatorship? how do you, how do you kind of, how do you explain it? i live important related to what you mentioned about weapons. it is important to
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note that actually the army or the you could own lead, possess weapons. if you are a member of the army or police, or armed forces in mexico, that the population in general is not allowed to own or possess weapons. so it is true that all of the weapons that are used in crimes in mexico are either legally imported from united states or often there are of weapons that somehow they came from the army. but i think it's important to return to both. but my, both of my competitors here had said is that you digital system in mexico is incredibly weak and it is not just corruption, is because there are not enough resources. so when a prime is being investigated, there are not enough forensic experts. there are not enough even if they need to go and get different tests, investigate every single part of the investigation, which i won't go to make too much time. there is not enough resources. so that is
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why there's a 95 percent rate of impunity. we're crimes, i, we, people are never prosecuted. people are not in prison. the case of i used enough that i mentioned all of the hundreds of people that were arrested 8 years later. they have not been prosecuted. they do not have sentences, and that's one of the most important cases in the country. so we are seeing that you can put more people that look like they're going to control the street. but what happens then? they arrest somebody and then they go to print and they're immediately released. well, and because i'm because we talk about the judiciary as one of the main sort of flaws in the system, right. the weakness of the judiciary. i mean, what court challenges do you think we can expect to see what is something tangible, catalina, that you think in terms of criminal justice or public safety like reforms? i know i just asked you this earlier. you said it was maybe too late, but i'm just trying to keep a little bit of hope alive. is there perhaps a likeliness in your mind that there could be, you know, there were heading in the trajectory of a military coup?
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no, i mean, i think you're right in mentioning the courts and the importance of records the supreme court have for the past 6 years, not they haven't been willing to false the and to resolve the limits of military action in mexico. but i think with this last reform, it's going to be impossible for the not to make a case and to pronounce the law and establish the limits. i think in this case where we're going to be having the military doing police work, but under military jurisdiction the court is going to have to say something. and i think may be part of the solution. if you know, making boots official power, say something in the stablish another in i do you agree with that? of course i think i am putting my hope in the judicial power right now because the judge cuts this w. d 's, these reforms that are against it because he do sion. i think he's very clear for all levels. does it? well they have done it again. that goes, he do shown, i mean we have
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a very strong do you charge by where they should be simple, they have to declare that it, these reforms are against it because he does shown a i think a me, we are going to be watching it. why whether they want to do, and we're going to promote all the legal actions like the asked or will dam bio a to make the, the court to say something about it. and i think the supreme court is going to play be a huge error or a right now in our country will much like your neighbor to the north. the supreme court recently playing a very big role in setting the sort of culture on here. yeah, go ahead. very quickly, catalina. yeah, he's just, he's just very quickly, but i just want to add something that, that is what you said about the cool. and i think the case of mexico looks more like what has happened in hungary or turkey where it's not just the cool that happened and in the way that it happened in t la or in brazil. but something that,
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you know, little reforms took place and then suddenly when you looked at all of the reforms as one big piece, then you have established the authoritarian state. and i think that's what we're seeing in the case of mexico. so it's not going to be some things like what we're looking for as, as the story of latin america shown us, but something more. so the, so the liking of hungry or turkey certainly, and just to share with you, we have in our youtube chat via, via saying a solution could be direct oversight by an independent entity of entity would need to be vigorously vetted annually. obviously whether or not about that sounds great, but i don't know how feasible that is, but it seems like weathered the judiciary. everyone's hoping for a little bit of that consolidation and sort of power grab to b to b somehow dissipated. so seems like the re way to go. sorry, i am not. i'm sorry, quit out on the rabbit last thought. go ahead up there in a very no,
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no i what i was going to say that we also have a these commissions of human rights. yeah. the national commission of human rights on the local commission of human rights make it the annual plane, are various thrown, rolled in our gone people. they should because they sure like a build a monitor rennison who to see all or what is happening. you know what country in terms of human rights violations. so i think we're okay, play a big role in our country. and obviously, you know, i've been to mexico city or the police there are notorious for maybe carrying more about bribes than crimes. there's so much more to this discussion. i do want to just share with you one. i'm stephanie brewer who focuses on human rights advocacy . she says, this is not only violating the constitution as you've said, but she kind of frames it in the dire consequences that a lot of people worry about. take a listen. this a form is an alarming set back for justice and human rights and mexico. because over a decade and a half of evidence shows that deploying the military and policing tasks does not
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improve public security. there has been very little accountability for the serious human rights violations committed by the mexican military in recent years. and now this reform means that only the military will be carrying out federal policing tasks. and reform itself openly violates mexico's constitution. mexico needs are capable and accountable civilian security and justice institutions to investigate crimes, to solve crimes. what it does not need is to continue expanding the power and internal roles of its military. i think we can all agree that it's the institutions that are needed that are missing. ah, ladies, thank you so much for your time. that's all the time we have for today, but you can always find us online. adstream dot al jazeera dot com ah. beneath the surface lies a dock aside in british politics, an exclusive al jazeera investigation coming scene. from
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