vince of marquis, the reaching received half his usual annual rainfall in just a few hours. firefighters appearing landslide and fallen trees and helping people trapped in their homes and cars. in pakistan, health officials or warning of a rise in waterborne diseases among people in the friday to southern sind province . dr. say many were initially being treated for trauma, but now they're seeing people suffering from diarrhea and skin infections. the navy is supplying aid to those cut off by flooding. hundreds of thousands of people are homeless and more than 1500 have died. upper salts. this is ella. but is there rosanna? audi, we are receiving approximately 700 patients a day in which most of the patients are suffering from i and skin infections. malaria is also increasing. the main reason is the lack of clean drinking water and living in congested conditions is also one of the reasons people are giving infections from each other. so far, fumigation has not started as much as it's needed. ah

le, again, i'm fully back to go with the headlines on al jazeera, there's been 9 armed, holdups at a bank, at banks across lebanon to day. banks were closed for the next for the next 3 days . because of security concerns. many of the razor by people demanding access to their own money is in a hoarder, explains why people are taking a 3 measures to do this. the banks have impose an official capital control since late 2019. they have severely limited the amount of money you can withdraw. and if you would draw from a dollar account, they give you the money in the local currency, but at a much lower rate than the market. so that's a de facto haircut. so what people feel is that they have been paying the price for the financial collapse. 8 not the state, not the central bank, not the banks who lend money to the state who accord for the world bank misuse the

money. for the past 30 years, a mass grave has been discovered in a ukrainian city retaken from russian forces. 450 graves were found in the head of the national police forces most contained at the bodies of civilians. gabriel aided phone to has more from keith officials. they're uneasy of are now going through this mass grave area. forensic experts are there on seen right now. they say that they are going to go through and zoom every single site and examine every single remains that they can find to try to figure out names, ages identities, to get to the bottom of this, the officials. they're already signaling that they believe. these are all civilians, and they also are signaling, at least early on in this investigation that there are potentially women and children among the dead. kennedys, son has a non to sci fi which is done. both countries have been accusing each other,

carrying out a tax on towns along the border. at least 3 people have been killed, and china's economy has reported faster than expected growth in factory output and retail sales. but economists are reluctant to call it a full recovery. those are the headlines inside stories next, and i'll just hear ah fresh from the west pushes china and russia close it together. teaching pen meet them, vladimir putin on his 1st foreign trip since upon them it began for message of these presidents trying to send and kindly reshape international political economic go to this is inflexible.

ah oh, here's a program i'm iran con tony's president. he's making his 1st foreign trip since the pandemic began one to years ago. shooting pains at 1st i was cause extolled. that's why he launched his signature belt and wrote initiative in 2013 to help build a major infrastructure projects, especially in developing economies. she, in kazakhstan, that president signed a statement, pledging mutual support with our country serenity, security and territorial integrity. she then flew to his breakfast on from meeting of the shanghai corporation organization, moscow and beijing form the eurasian. a regional block in 2001 hotly to counter us influence. she met with president vladimir putin for the 1st time since russia invaded ukraine. both nations are looking for support in the face of sanctions at

nice elation from the west resorts. her daughter has moved from the back city of silicon. the leaders of the east are gathering in the ash and city of samarkand inasmuch as stand a stronger corporation organization. several bilateral meetings are taking place here, but perhaps the most important one is the meeting between the russian president vladimir putin and chinese leader. she champing ukrainian crisis and energy on the top of the agenda. russia once a solid support from china regarding its war in ukraine, china says that the warden, ukraine, was per walked by nato. however, it refrains from explicitly saying that the war in ukraine is well justified and left him at one. this is something that russia definitely wants to hear an invalid turn. china is asking more support from russia regarding time. secondly, russia wants to sell more oil and gas to china. it's crucially important for russia regarding the fact that it is under the heavy sanctions imposed by the western

western countries. and it wants to a to find out more resources for revenues to protect his economy from a collapse this by china being the number one client for the russian energy. it also wants to have more alternatives. so did the chinese leader, she gp was in kazakhstan, right? ahead of the a did the chunk guy corporation or organization summit in as becky stant to seek for increasing add increasing the that the gas import from kaiser kristen and export say that the reason for that. one of the reasons for that is that china doesn't want it relations with russia to come at the expense of at the cost of its relations with the west rest. who said that for inside story now is russell mentioned. china has avoided openly supporting russia's invasion of ukraine, but in the past week, beijing's 3rd highest ranking leader made his strongest statements yet, the lower house of russia's parliament released this video of legion shoes meeting

in moscow. this is you who lose the hood on russia's core interests and major issues of concern. china expresses his understanding and full support for russia. there is no her on the ukraine issue. for example, the u. s. and nato are expanding directly on russia's doorstep, threatening rushes, national security and the lives of russian citizens. given the circumstances, russia has taken necessary measures. china understands, and we are coordinating on various aspects, mo, who do. i believe russia was cornered, in this case, to protect the country's core interests. russia gave a resolute response. let's take a look at russia and chinese relationship. in february, they declared a no limits partnership. and china has criticized sanctions imposed over the war in ukraine while expanding trade. it was also russia's 2nd largest arms buyer. but in

march, u. s. officials reported that moscow had requested beijing's military assistance in the conflict. now the european union punished russia by removing it from the international money transfer system. swift china is reported to have offered assistance with its own system. and in june president, she hosted the bricks summit for the developing economies of brazil, russia, india, china, and south africa. and then in 2015, they launched the new development bank that so poured almost $32000000000.00 into projects. ah, that's brain, i guess in beijing einer tang and senior fellow at the time he institute in moscow . dmitri babbage, political analyst at the most me into that project based in moscow and in brussels, theresa fallon, director of the center for russia, europe, asia studies. welcome to the program. let me begin in beijing 1st, or is this a hard power play by china, or is it a soft power play? and by that, i mean, is china going to start using its financial,

political muscle to formulate this new partnership with russia that is going to try and reshape the world? well, i don't think it's necessary, a new partnership with russia. this is the ceo. i mean, there's a whole bunch of nations there and a lot more waiting on the doorstep to join with china is trying to do as you know, in your opening, you pointed out they are making sure that they're spreading their business around in terms of gas and they made a very, very point statement and lock response, or they said territorial integrity is very important. reason this is apropos dimension is that there have been rumblings of very from very hawkish, conservative people in russia saying that, you know, because aka, son was not supportive enough. of russia's actions and ukraine and also that they were our lands that should right, they'd be in rushes hands. so the fact that she went there 1st was

a good indication that china is playing this very, very carefully. they do not want to make enemies. what they want is a new new regional world order. i'm sorry, not world new regional orders that allows them to have dialogue and this kind of just dissatisfied and war like atmosphere. but by bringing in russia this point in order to have that regional world order regional order, rather, as you say, russia right now is under tremendous amount of pressure. if china truly does back russia exposes itself, does not know. i mean, you know, there's these different narratives that are out there on a kind of false dichotomy that if somehow, if you deal with russia, you are, you know, europe equivalent of a baby killer. you favor war and ukraine and things like that. that's not the case . in the global south has made that very, very clear. it's not just china, india, it's countries in south america in africa. we all witness the the

speech of the, of the foreign minister of south africa. girl, she dress down lincoln while he shouted product her about the us trying to demand that people take sides in a conflict that they don't see. there's. so this issue about, you know, ukraine and russia is very simple from china's point of view. they see this as the americans provoking a situation in which there was a response. they do not agree with this idea that nation should be taking matters like this into their own hands. but they understand that there are security concerns. now, in terms of china, in particular, they have the same kind of concerns with taiwan. they see the same type of action by the us towards i want these upgrading of relations, trying to make it a clause i country wasn't making it up. nato partner, all of these things are selling,

it's billions of dollars worth of arms. these are provocative by china standards and a violation of the 3 communicate. so you're going to see russia and china being pushed together by what they perceive as us aggression towards them. do retreat and moscow . clearly, moscow is going to welcome any kind of support for russia in this, but this particular time. but is the cost of this slightly too high? i mean, russia is use, is used to being the main power. i mean, here it feels like russia might be the junior part compared to china. oh, well, no, there are no such fears in russia because compared to what we have through them, european union from the states. and that is just to be in a junior partner, china doesn't quite such a terrible perspective. i agree with the previous speaker from bay jin, basically russia in china bought feel threatened by the more than wet by

ideology, which views any current guess. and then a person that just don't feet out pretty rural narrative. now a bonus in the west. any targets have any questions, just seeing if anybody's by the west and that declared any news openly. i mean, if you compare some high corporation organization, if you compare collective security and feed your organization credit by russia to compare them to the nature of your major and to you for years have been found in much more belligerent. i mean, c, s, t o. usually the sessions begin with a statement that these are going to a nation is not directed against any congress in the congress. with nato you will was rushing the threat. china is changing the world or the chinese also kind of a threat. and this is the kind of the rhetoric that has been not age and but,

you know, just making very angry both the people in china and russia. so in that case, president c and president, there have support all the nations. there are many people in russia and china were angry about the action. so the more the west, and that's for your previous question. when you said, is it a good time for china to be rational? hello. hi, corporation organization. i'm like natal, who is a financial or we close. you can not excuse anyone from there to station or betrayed it. if the country is a member, it will be there, you don't have to get a special invitation. and what makes this simon special is that they include in all the wrong, which for many years had been viewed with a kind of suspicion by russia and china. you remember probably the president medieval form of presidents who, sorry lisa will have plenty of time to talk about all of this. but i do want to

bring in theresa fallon. theresa, it seems to me that this is now china's world, and we simply live and there's nothing we can do about it. is that true? well, as a chinese like to say, it's a win win situation with russia. because if russia loses in ukraine, russia, china actually gets a, we can draw, so which is much their benefit. and should they win in ukraine, which doesn't look likely these days that, you know, they, they've been kind of at least rhetorically supporting them. and they've been spreading their propaganda message in the global south. so i think that it's very difficult for many l as to accept here in europe, that russia and china are so closely having a strategic convergence. and i think that this makes them extremely uncomfortable because this is also true in central asia, as we saw with she didn't things cummins yesterday and cousin son stating what was mentioned in the run up to the program about how that title will not allow russia.

he didn't use wordpress of any impeachment and cuz it's done sovereignty. and i think this is a key message because since bathing has cited with russia in regard to ukraine, he has alienated to a certain level, central asian states, which were part of the soviet union who are watching what happens and you can't. and they're terrified that point to do the same thing with them. so these countries have been balancing between russia and china for many, many decades. and so i think that she will run up all international politics for she is domestic right now, especially with the october meeting coming up. so you want to look strong, powerful take advantage is the worst possible time for putting with ukraine's huge pushback on russia. and so the optics are awful for putin. so i think this is a smart move by she didn't ping, he looks very like a international leader. there's not a lot of places you can go these days. this is 1st outside of china, since coven, and then he has this kind of feather in his cap. he had a meeting,

and ukraine signed 21 use with the leader there. and now the, as you know, so the su, it talks about corporation. but there is a lot of fragmentation, a lot of internal problems. we see strains between india and china, india, and pakistan, the members of the se. oh, so they talk about cooperation, but there's a lot going on. there's a lot of moving parts to this. let's get back to beijing. there's a lot of moving parts, as our guest has said, in brussels. but one of the key things about china's role when it comes to other countries, it's always respected. whoever's in charge of take the example of pockets on, for example, china has long been a very good friend, focused on it hasn't said you need to be a democracy or they shouldn't be a military dictator. it simply dealt with whatever government, whatever military was in power, on the other hand, talk is already is long complained that the americans are interfering in the domestic affairs by having this insistence on freedom and democracy. is that

something that china is now going to lean into it, keep that up, will it keep dealing with the people in power without actually insisting on any kind of political change? well, you know, i actually kind of object to the form of your question in this sense that pakistan is you say are complaining about freedom and liberty. i don't think that's really it, it's about a sovereign nation. let's look carefully at the difference between the u. s. and china, when i call summit with s c o, it's about internal matters. it's about, you know, getting rid of terrorism, cross which order terrorism financing, of terrorism, etc. trying to make sure that there is a moderate things. the idea is that they want to settle the neighborhood. now there's a lot of contentious relations as the previous speaker talked about, but they didn't exclude anybody and go to the summit of the americas, were biden invited, only those countries that he thought he wanted to talk to and excluded

a bunch of others. that of course, had immediate backlash. you know, the world is, as it is and you can have dialogue or you can create walls or contain countries change their, you know, their governments, the regime, change opportunities and things like this. this is standard practice for the us. you know, the question you should be asking is, does world want the u. s. to be the police but of it? and if it is going to be at least one shouldn't lead by example, as opposed to hypocrisy was lucky want to talk. so we can ask that question to both or the guess other speak to dimitry in moscow. the us role is over. is it dishonest? is, is, are we talking about the full of the, the full of the influence of the us now? well, definitely, and i can tell us the person who as the young journalist lived in the soviet union and they saw the 1st 4 years or people in the former soviet union. good in myself,

we were not against the united states as a benign policeman because the image or americans and the british was very positive at the time and as nations we still use them very or to do with it. what we don't you, what do you need then you do, i go into what, what entrenched in the states and in the european union. and in the last, i would say a few dozens of years and which led to terrible boldness. our previous speaker invasion rightly conventional the regime change. i mean the rather that situation congress are seen with the para, what's going on in your green? well, i can carry for sure. i wasn't there in 2014. they booked in tara, what sort of newland did ukraine in here for thousands, 14. because our president at the time of our buyer made a special statement that some people in color finally want to all the legally

elected government the same weight. they did it in your grades, are not going to allow them to do it. so with that to look at this situation, perspective the congress in central asia. they may not be happy with attorneys. i did, you do call me. they may not be with rushes actions in your brain, but somehow rushing chain that respect their political systems. we're not trying to lecture them on holidays to build their democracy. just right. and let me, let me say a very critical thought here in the west right now, especially in the united states, they keep talking about focuses again to move. and of course, they're just where our focus but read any testable on it forwards and you will find out any textbook. all political science, there is something was never focus yet. that is totally terry newsome and they lived in a city and state. i remember that there was all the vaughan view for every event

for every situation double. that's exactly what we have now in the united states, and in the you about the situation in your brain all the while you use a wow. there is no discussion or no discussion. ok, and the really kinda situation there is complicated in russia, you can criticize the so called really to operation which we've been caught in a war to me. tell me mom, i'm really sorry to cut you off. i'm really sorry. cut you off, i think you made your point brilliantly. i want to bring in a 3 fallen in brussels, yet a bemused look on your face as dimitry will speaking. where is the u. s. and all of us? i just want to pick up on one earlier point because the more people say it doesn't make it true. the fact that sweden and finland, for example, want to join nato present, put in said there was no problem with him joining. so this and finland shows a huge border with russia. so this narrative that it's, this war and ukraine was because of nato expansion has been proven false, even by president putin himself. second. the problem on my down the pro has

happened after the leader refused to sign the agreement with you because the public won a closer economic corporation with you. so that was the reason for the beginning of the protests. and again, the kind of unraveling and put in felt you really had to make a move. so i would add, you know, there's this kind of division of labor in the past and central asia, ross, it was the rifle, china was the purse, it changes the economy is slowing down. russ is really going to be very difficult states for the next decade. that had a huge brain chain because of why you can't plus all these economic sanctions. so the outcome is remains to be seen. what happens in central asia, who didn't, has very strong feelings, especially because it, because it shares such a long border with we shouldn't underestimate agency of these countries and roughly cause it's done. i mean, there are economy is going to have large energy exports. and, and so you want it to say yes,

i'm just going to bring and i know you were shaking your head there is theresa was speaking to react whenever i yes. i mean it is, i'm sure you're wonderful. talk points and they represent a point of view, but let's be realistic. what do you say about afghanistan? iraq, all the turmoil that's been created by the united states and its efforts for 1st, for revenge, for nation building, and then walking away from it. i mean, the middle east is broken because the west, there were similar things that happened to africa and also south america. so to tell me again how it is that china and russia are the ones who are to stabilize in the world. i mean, terrorism has been a many headed hydra. every time the u. s. says that it has chopped off one to up here. so tell me again why, why you know, how it is that united states is been helping, and it is that, you know, on the side of the angels and everyone else is on the side of the evil that i want to bring in to me. tree head to meet you hearing 2 very different perspectives

there from the chinese and from the world from to raise a father. no, no, no, to speak. you will be off the american certainly. but, you know, i mean, at some point, russia is going to have to decide who it wants to throw its lot in china is not completely backing russia when it comes to the war in ukraine, not publicly. they're afraid of sanctions as well. america still has some real power over russia. he doesnt post the war in ukraine is the tragedy robot. certainly the western view. they have you represented by 3. it is a simplistic view of that tragedy. you know, there is a sad that it started one down of course, which was told he did not refuse. he postponed the sign in or certification agreement with a you and the public wanted it. well, yeah, and of course, as the president had the full right to postpone the signing of that agreement, that violent action against him during which 38 policemen were killed was absolutely legal. no, you can imagine what will happen in the united states to someone who killed so to

eat. policeman trying to make the president signed some kind of a document. and the, and the section unfortunately was food is supported by the united states. and by that you would, that wasn't grace. this was the 1st step towards this civil war. actually civil war that we're seeing now in your brain. because these are people speaking the same language, right? most of the cases. ok, what's the same response a going to support? i support our previous speaker from page and i criticized a lot of actions of president which and, and a lot of things that rush in china may be doing on the international stage. but everything is seen in comparison. the united states in the you have no right to lecture rushing, china after everything they have done a, we are running out of time. i do want to come very quickly to teresa teresa. i want you to answer this question, or what can the u. s. 2, when this is happening?

i think the 2 giants of russia and china, they will actually eventually pull apart. and so i think the u. s. it just comes to back and watch the show. i think that this idea of a rules based order. i mean, it sounds like russia and china have such great plans, i mean, an unprovoked war and ukraine. what's happening in john? this is another key issue that she just needs to get some sort of agreement from to kind of not to talk about this in john, you on the report because this is kind of alienating muslims in central asia. and so if the leadership tries to down play this, that's a key issue because john is also the gateway on the belgian road initiative. so this is also a point of fiction. so it's a difficult diplomatic balancing act that she to being has to do. he has to try to talk to kyle, because that if he blocks his initiative, the whole bell to road is dead. and i would say that we're seeing

a bifurcation world order between west and east pacific for including australia, new zealand, japan and south korea. and the rest, iran, india, russia, china, and india is kind of an independent country trying to make the most of all, you know, benefit from all sides. so i think that the rules based order versus this kind of a growing group of access. it will be interesting to watch. that's why i think this s e o meeting is watched more than any other a c o meeting in my memory. so it has galvanized the world's attention and we're going to see how russia, china, how, how they play this out. a very spirited debate. i want to thank all our guests that are not hanging to meet you babich and theresa fallon, and i want to thank you as well for watching. now you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out there dot com. and for further discussion, go to

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