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these people are now living in a new reality, a brand new king, a brand new prime minister, all in the space of a few days of each other, changes not seen in the united kingdom since 18. 30, a war. many people of course, welcome a return of british politics. everybody knows how difficult the challenges ahead really are. and peas aren't even back at work yet. we're already british railway workers, so they're planning to strike on october. the 1st overpay and conditions. other workers from other industries may follow in a summer dominated for months by the resignation of boys johnson and the election of less trust as prime minister or position m. p. say crucial times, been wasted weeks of frantic policy making await new park al jazeera london. ah, one of the top stories, missouri, an independent investigation,
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has found that the killing of sharyn at work lay by his ready soldiers in may was deliberate. and they were provided material for the analysis which was carried out our research firm forensic architecture and al hack a human rights group. it rules out the possibility of confrontations between israeli forces and palestinian gunmen in janine in the occupied west bank at the time. it also says the sniper, open 5 to minutes targeting out as you're a journalist and anyone who tried to rescue her. he mere katara has called for an end to the israeli occupation at the un general assembly. you do the turkey, i stress that we stand in full solidarity without brotherly palestinian people in that aspiration to achieve justice. the security council must shoulder its responsibility and must compel israel to end the occupation of palestinian territories and to establish a palestinian state along the borders of 1967 with jerusalem as its capital.
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you in general, assembly chief antonio cherish has urged rich countries to tax the windfall profits and fossil fuel companies and help countries battling the climate process and food insecurity. we need action across the board. let's if no illusions, we are in rough seas. we, instead of global this content is on the horizon, a cost of living crisis is raging. grasp is crumbling, inequality is not exploding, and our planet is burning. the international community is not ready or willing to tackle the big that met the challenges of our age. these cries is threatened, the very future of humanity, and the fates of all planet cries is like water, new crane, and the multiplication of conflicts on the globe crime. it's like the climate, the emergency and biodiversity loss cries, is like the dire financial situation of developing countries and the faith of the sustainable development goals. russian controlled regions of eastern and solving
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the ukraine of announced they were whole referendums on joining russia this week. it comes, this keeps counter offensive gains ground against russian forces as i had on tuesday, what is next up? it's the stream asking, can the monarchy survive on that one morning after that? thanks for watching. ah, and i a welcome to the story mom, josh rushing, billing in today for family. okay. could the death of queen elizabeth the 2nd be the beginning of the end for the british monarchy. while the institution remains
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popular in the country, more britons are thinking about what the monarchy and a ceremonial had of state, actually name for the u. k. here, take a listen to this protester outside the british parliament and london principal. her . but her aunt she power i think, is absolutely of orange in 2020 to pam. you can't have any philosophical moral justification. one family having political power like that just by that you that, that, that's the fundamental issue. if this and building, then there's no point having them. if they happen is the power, then they shouldn't be that t con, kind of having both ways i'm. they get paid enormous amounts of money. millions and millions of millions of homes, hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds to run the oil valley and i just don't see why the people to this country should pay for that. all right, so that's one person's opinion. but what's yours? share your questions or comments about the monarchy right here in the you tube chat and be a part of the show with me. ah,
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alright, here with us to talk about the future of the monarchy in london is philip blonde, a political philosopher and director of the think tank, raz public. and then also with it is shola mos shoak bomb me moo. she's an activist and author of this is why i resist and paul pounds and a lawyer and activists based in london. welcome all, philip, let's begin with you. it's 2022. why do we need a monarchy? well i think the evidence is very strong, bona key secured to bolt chrissy. it prevents the slide to extreme, isn't the economist democracy in dex has a georgia id of, of countries in its top index over the last 3040 years have been constitutional monarchies, republics. a more unstable,
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more and dangerous compact the republic of syria with jordan. compare the republic about j area with the kingdom of morocco. and all of the criticism of monarchy all factually incorrect, in the sense that all the academic research shows that the countries at the moment key tends to be more democratic. more we got to read less printer extremism, higher degrees of social capital, and social trust on a centrally police out the, the extremists in the side and help foster consensus because they create a national toll. ok, both politics. ok, so i can hold it back to me, marcela jump in. i list in to year they go,
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sorry. are you living in an alternate universe? it would world, a well modeled by wall is the monarchy on the 80 though, that the simple or tool to secure democracy or prevent extremism. you and i live in the united kingdom. the following extremism is thriving in this country. in fact, the money is very un, i'm sorry, anything will remedy up a 2nd. i actually listened to what you were saying or good, much longer that i could have even stomach. so it may be just listen to me. i actually learned so they write the monarchy, symbolizes the entrenched inequalities in this country. well, class privilege waste. so much more a and let me just point to what the protest to said earlier. if the only symbolic, what is the point of them. but we not, the not just symbolic, they actually have power. the monarch had political power is a political ahead of state any they play diplomatic will. they use their power to
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be able to secure our exemptions for themselves, like the money and like queen elizabeth dead in, in securing exemptions from race. the screener shall laws, sex discrimination laws. and so many other things. so what you say makes no sense whatsoever. the monarchy is so far above the very people that they are meant to serve. there is no transparency. there is no accountability when it comes to the monarchy. that is, that is the very opposite of what democracy is about to i don't, i do not understand what the heck you talking about, hey, let me bring in someone from our community here. her name is beth and said she's a welsh act of us. and she wants to talk about not what the monetary represents, but maybe what it doesn't represent no realty. in terms of off the british monarchy stands. so i think we should say, well, what doesn't it stand for? and it doesn't stand for quality, it didn't, doesn't stand as a finesse. and it certainly doesn't represent
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a democracy that i won't. i don't think that anybody should be born to privilege to rule over us. at the end of the day, we are the subjects of the royal family and that's not a symbol of equality. and, and for the future of way is i think, well, that's for discussion as a now do we want to have an oil family do we want to see them on a key rule over us or in the future? hey paul, want to bring up a tweet. you recently share a photo of you holding a sign that says not my king. i know you just heard beth and say what the monarchy does not stand for what's your take on that? well, i really held that sign up because there was signed that the police were cracking down on people free expression and protest. i want to challenge that. and actually, i really fundamentally believe that the beautiful and complex where of freedom and rights and civil liberties that we build software to centuries. is she asked questions, if not more than the money needs to be retained. and we have to critique the
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monarchy. but more than that, if you think it's worth going back to what the miles that the monarchy is, not just about the quality that represents. it also holds up and buttresses all the other forms of inequality. we have enough society. so for instance, the fact that we still have hereditary peers in our legislative voting purely because we still have one of the most unequal forms of land ownership in the world . and most which is people can only access 8 percent of our lab. and the shift 511 old lady gets to move incomplete luxury and other old ladies, stall them 3 death in their home. to me you just get the wrong basis and self employed who we want to be as a country. yeah, i totally agree with that. statement because, i mean, look at the look at the ridiculousness of the situation we're in right now. the united kingdom isn't one of the worst cost of living crisis. we've seen
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a recent history. okay. there people literally cannot eat or he, i, yes, this country is going to have to spend millions to buried the queen who is worth our personal. what is about $500000000.00 as i understand it. and the worth of the royal family is, well, it's an a billions is well over 20000000000 y optical. what are people us that people having to pay when her own estate can pay for a funeral? we pay prompt, you know, even if we had to be a fraction of it, that maybe might make sense because it's a stick, you know. but for us to put the entire bill went well, we had talked about exorbitant energy that price is food inflation went up last month about 12.4 percent. it is ridiculous. hey, i want to bring in some voices from our you know, community fill up and then i'll let you respond. ok. but a lot more saying similar things to what shows you're saying. so this is showing here were shawnee is saying or as someone living in the u. k,
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all they do is feed our taxpayers money while people are starving and dying homeless kimberly they receive welfare. someone else says, so what the king charles, queen elizabeth in the future. king william due for the country that they deserve dep position. that person was about moonlight. philip wanted picture articles. yeah, no, this is, this is incredibly reflective and unsophisticated fairies of hysterical remarks. if you're worried about the quality of the united states, isn't it? it's a republic and it has the highest levels of inequality in the balance. well, if you want to look at a peer comparison look at the monarchical pay to cross the border in canada. the historical and can make indices out for you to confront only a quarter of the world states among the cheese, yet they compromise,
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they constitute the majority of countries and democracy. in fact, an accountability in fact, and well being faxes, and in, in the most tiring index, the number one country in the world that meets those criteria no way which is but so if you want to see one patient on course, that's my question. actually, you need about correlation. causation is, what is the actual causation here below what's your argument for how they actually make it more gala tarion? pick it because a moment does is a bone. it has to create consensus. so if you look at the great killing of that in world history, the always mo, not mona key passes into a republic bank of russia. think of why more, why more germany thing called the bolsheviks compared to the sol does all
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was passed by the bolshevik? well, mass think being called the above and moment to your so join any of our largest eyes in mass. what mono. so they have to be on to ideal logy. well, we have from the other presented is, is very little non real ideological. that all reflected all how the reality out, which is mona t support it quote you need or how, how, how is this? how does, how consolation have refund? yeah. on the korean right. how. how do you set the concentration captains the ultimate way, the way you just, just just as you would say, that not every american is responsible. but from i spoke,
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he would say that every historical vega is responsible for well, if you're concerned, but clearly not even the way you see to engender the the ending of slavery. for instance, the victoria. so oh are let me just see. i mean, i'm wondering how much it, philip, it seems like you're looking to the past. and i wonder how much of a generation a generational thing. i want to show my computer here for just a 2nd. we have a poll from you god, that show support for the monarchy is much higher for people who are older and much less for people who are younger. and i wonder people who are older might be looking to the past. and people who are younger are looking at their few tours and wondering what role the monarchy has in it. so say,
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30 years ago what happens is people get mole manassas, to get older and wiser and say, oh, very bracey in australia then and right. so what we did is, well just pulling apart because extreme cost is been i'd be all as if i lisa a failing and or on the bring correct stream, is that because there is no bigger consent form a common oh that is a role that monopole. a mono, no, listen for america, unknown political, i don't know. you are contradicting. you said yes. in fact to entire and already know. you can't say that he has simply symbolic and then then claim that what they do is to create consensus that i have just
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a what i took the time to listen to your dodge are, you will listen to me and let me play the money i sample whatsoever of supporting equality, it has not done that by its actions. it doesn't represent that. in fact, it had to represent equality that would be and some likely radical a represent exam with you might. and i'm, something's gonna a examples to the examples given earlier. when we talked about them, it went to the mammal was given as an example. you then said, well, holly star go figure, can not be blip. don't get it, make up your mind either angry. i thought it pretty well to mom. he is so and that they can be looked at as a symbol of greatness and they are equally responsible when the atrocities committed in their name. you can, will choose,
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i won't be here. i for this one on this world example. as long as it is, somebody had to come back and it specifically mentioned the ending of the slave trade out in somebody's talk to the quality is completely historically illiterate. george williams lightly. he was on the it was william the 4th. when he was the ducal clark, so one of our previous kings was one of the main opponents of the abolition. the slave trade in the house of lords in the long side street is and he's actually this lead, i read to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in this late j because he opposed it. was the state doing it? he personally did, and he was on the throne. wonderful. remove concrete. hold on. let me play, listen. hey guys, i want to bring in our online community here and we have some comments in the. oh, got out. i lost it. now we're, is it, it says this isn't it, disingenuous, this is. but what i want to do is i want to talk about the car,
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the empire in the colonies, and i want to hear from someone out in the colonies. and so i want to bring in byron sila boy, who is an indigenous activist from canada. let's hear is one of the he sent us a comment for this indigenous peoples here in canada. i have a long and complicated history with the monarch. but to me, what they mean is, and you know, the ongoing genocide and colonialism that that's still happening here in canada. so there relevancy is, especially here in 2022 is antiquated and they need to examine what their role was in coronel ism, they need apologize. to of, to indigenous peoples all around the world. ah, for what they, they've done in the name of their crown. ok, so can, is a common well for talking about warmer colonies. here's
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a youtube comment of from some luca kaba. i am a serial leonean, which is a former british colony. i think the monarchy should be abolished with all of his wealth shared among the nations. they colonized as reparation. so i want talk about reparations. it's about, yeah, we'll talk about it. we'll just absolute. yeah, go for a weapon. it. reparations is justice. it's one of the things that the monarchy has failed to do. to queen elizabeth, 2nd in her 70 years, fail to confront the colonial path and the post colonization period in which the playbook of the british empire continued to be executed all under the guise of modernization and commonwealth. but we all know that has nothing come on about the wealth of the commonwealth. so yeah, i do agree. that revenue, right? you just, it is absolutely required. record nation cannot happen without the apology. and that has to be a states apology. and i think that bullets go ahead to state,
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that is what the monarchy should be doing. and it should be leading on that. people have to understand that the monarchy doesn't just, this is not just about the past about the present. what the mother he has done, it's a conduit to symbolize systemic racism an anti blackness. so when we talk about regulatory jones, when we talk about reconciliation, when we talk about apologies and how this still impacts the live experiences of black and ethnic minorities to date, this goes back to the monarchy. and it also requires at the monarchy, does the need for which is for them to step up to the plate, take responsibility, apologize, actual report to job justice and to lead or reconciliation. i. we have a bit of sound from maria hernandez and jamaica. i'm going to play and then i'm gonna, i'm going to pose a question for you ball. i think she's a little bit too old for the put a profession, but who am i to judge?
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i have no say in this matter. what i do like about charles is that he is always been an environmental listen, i'm an environmental this and i know he always pushed with environment. so i want to shift the conversation more forward and talk a little bit about king charles and what we could or should see from him. she mentioned that she thinks he's an environmentalist and she'd like to see him be more active on that. could or should he be more active and the politics of the nation paul, well, i mean, i think i think the argument from pray molecules that he call because the molecule is supposed to be a non physically interfering institution. and so even though he might personally believe in pro environmental policies that isn't going to have a wider if it's an applicant, i think there's a really important point here. maybe to try and create some common ground between some of the voices that and for the policy vision. i do think there is a thing that the monarchy blocked him. more in depth about actually truly
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what makes this country great. what makes the land great, and what we want to celebrate as a country, because we put so much store on this runs and read it to families. we can actually think about things that i think more important. over the last couple weeks, i've actually realized that although i'm not a motor case, i do love the land. i love the land intensely. i love the rivers, i love tree, i love the people. so i decided, and i do think that we actually by putting these people on the pedestal, we don't actually protect things. i think a far more important like how to even and also we don't to celebrate what it actually in britain does amazing things. not because they were bones around in person because they've given their life and their soul and their intelligence to helping others to further humanity and to making this country great. and i would much rather celebrate those people. it's in random hereditary case incentives from
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a prince. the family that is younger than oak trees that i've taken care of in these islands is significantly younger than you treat that live on the, exist on as i do, you know, who are, we can do better. we can be better. still put actually changes at the monarchy just goes away. how would the nation i any different? i think that you will, you will see a society that will become lower america in the majority of that, most right. for civil war. and i once again, can, i don't wait while you're thinking, i should say more american and the pezora observed is the most british thing i've ever heard. anyone say exactly. i mean, like you've, you've created an at the top in a sort of a company, but it's important you have better account. i'm the better account is that is that the, the evidence is clear. but constitutional monex protect democracy by fostering consensus
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. were in the mid to the democratic recession, democracy of falling into our talk, chris sees i'm part of that is we have a when a take. so partisan politics. when, when no quarter is given when one side, when they essentially annihilate or raise the other side, both prevent that moment. vehicles but peace and the span day. and if you create to republic, you do what republic to which i think a, in the end, in mass killing, which is what, you know, the british mon. well, what i want to bring in the be the last year from our youtube body. and i'll come to you show up. ok, so this is from wonder him a it a,
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the real deal amana rashawn and caitlin oshea. one says in the modern world, monarch ism, is irrelevant to society, monarchies are like demi gods, not answerable to the courts of law. they don't pay taxes, the real bill says they should start by selling that $1000000000.00 crown and returning the proceeds to africa in india. anom says the brits looted all the resources of greater india and divide this in many parts just for their interest. true, caitlin oshea says it wasn't just anti blackness. it was anti anyone, not british? the saying beyond the pell was coined against the irish, who weren't acquiescing to british rule jello. okay, 1st. oh, phillip seems to be your suffering from selective amnesia. there is no way on god's earth that monarch in any way i always did that. you refer to it as you know, countries descending into some kind of extra a
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right. and i listen to what you're saying. i'm telling you absolutely. well, all them one, the key does the only thing that a monarchy is good at. i mean, the british monarchy is to survive. so it is irrespective of whatever political why, why do we have a lot of money? yeah, yeah, top of that to some to that old mattel need comes to the model rate happened out with, oh, hold on, hold. but the reality of imminent olibo democratically with conservative, whether it's a label or a liberal, double go. whether it is the monitor will always sit at the top, they do nothing to really change the process a while to sit at the top. all they care about is this so bible that the only thing they're good at. and why did they found out the amount that there must it, you know, it could not make power. that is all they've been doing for the last it was like
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a note on the with a clean, totally gone and on. yeah. no, yeah. we wrote in the stream today, philip, i want to thank you, philip and paul and solo for being with us. whether you like it or not, the monarchy will continue and we'll be watching the continue here from our desert english. thank you for joining us today on the stream. we'll see you next time. ah ah. and
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