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. this is al jazeera, these are the top stories russian president vladimir putin is calling up reservists to boost for moscow calls. our special operation in ukraine made the announcement during his address to the nation, comes ahead of referendums by moscow, back separatist in 4 ukrainian regions to become part of russia. she though young lady. mm hm. but dessert it is necessary to support the proposal of the ministry of defense and the general staff to hold a partial military mobilization in russia. i repeat, we are talking of a partial mobilization only, but only people in the military reserve will be dropped into the priority will be on people who served in the armed forces. you have military specialization and experience either those drafted before being sent to the places of service you will have mandatory additional training relying on experience gained during the special a military operation of the decree on partial mobilization has been signed in the
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occurring was dominated speeches of the un general assembly number of western leaders of accused russia of a return to imperialism. you as president jor biden's expected to talk about the war later on wednesday. harlequin fiona is still gaining strength as it ripped suit the caribbean. instead classified as a category for storm. the hurricane left a trail of destruction in the dominican republic and puerto rico. people are demonstrating in the philippines to mark 50 years as the declaration of martial law by a former president ferdinand mark or senior protesters vowing to never forget the extrajudicial killings arbitrary arrest and torture. they say are carried out under his rule. people in around have been protesting after the death in police custody of a woman arrested for violating the dress code. 32, you are masa omni was detained by the morality police more than a week ago. she died in the hospital and friday, after being in a coma,
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the leader in his, his opposition inactive art, is expected to appear in court later on wednesday, anti terrorism police detained russia. lucy, on tuesday with former prime minister ali lord, are accused of sending fighters to war zones such as sylvia. there was the headlines coming up next. it's inside story. good bye. ah. the taliban has faded american contract, so it is changed for an afghan drug dealer. the group says this is a new era relations with washington, but would it change anything and our diplomatic ties between the taliban and the us even possible? this is inside story. ah
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. hello and welcome to inside. sorry i am hashem alcala. the taliban has released u. s. navy veteran mark for ricks in exchange for an afghan tribe, alida for ricks, was abducted in february 2020. while haji bossard knows a was serving a life sentence for smuggling her when his the 2nd afghan to be freed in recent months in june as to the law, her own was released from guantanamo bay. he has spent 15 years in us custody on suspicion of having links to al qaeda, but was never charged nor z. a was close to the taliban founder moore larva u. s. president joe biden says decision wasn't taken lightly. lee harden has more from the ha, are news mark birds today is 28 november 2021.
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a proof of life video published nearly 2 years into his detention showed mark frederick's in afghanistan, the former us naval officer and civilian engineer, had been kidnapped by the taliban in january, 2020, and reportedly held by the how connie network. now he's free, his return is the combination of many, many months of perilous and effective work. tried so many colleagues in the taliban released frederick's in exchange for hydro. bosh arden reside and afghan tribal leader who had been serving a life sentence in the u. s. for opium smuggling north, i was granted clemency and received a hero's welcome at the couple airport and about the luck. my exchange, i think with god willing can lead to peace between afghanistan and america and american was released. and i am also free with the help of the womic emerett,
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and merger hygiene destroy. it was low in a statement announcing frederick's release us president joe biden made no mention of the prisoner swap, but said frederick's freedom require difficult decisions to be made. frederick sister thanked us officials and said what biden did was right. in order to save her brother's life, the trump administration tried and failed to secure frederick's release, and was criticized for not making it a requirement of the us taliban. p. steel. his continued detention remained a major impediment to improve us afghanistan relations after the taliban take over last year. there was a 3rd off of the skinning and couple. apparently there won't be any contacts between the 2 sides. but this release indicates that despite the concerns, as i said, shed by the us, i'm the wisdom community. the u. s. is still in contact with the taliban and
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keeping a sort of engagement guitar helped mediate the release of mark frederick's and has been pivotal and hosting negotiations between the us and the taliban. now at least one other american remains a hostage in afghanistan and u. s. president joe biden says more needs to be done to ensure all citizens abroad are freed leah harding inside story del ha. the u. s. has refused to recognise the taliban administration since it took control of galveston in august. last year. american troops were forced to withdraw completely after to decade occupation. the taliban is not internationally recognized as a legitimate government, especially after a backtrack on pleasures to uphold him or weiss and women's education. international aid has all been dried up, pushing most of the population into poverty. the un estimates 6000000 people are at risk of famine. last week the us announced it was setting up
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a relief fund using afghan central bank assets. it froze loss here to prevent the taliban from accessing the money. ah, let's bring in our gas in washington dc. st. peter's work a retired brigadier general in the us army. his served in the nato. a mission to afghanistan in tuscany is graham smith, senior consultant on afghanistan for the international crisis group, and in sydney is amateur jamal co ofa of the decline and full of republican of canister, and a former member of the national security council of garrison. welcome to the program generals. why should we see this prisoner swap as a just a swat? nothing more or something that could potentially paved the way to a bigger american road in afghanistan in the future. a thank you for having me, a slot, a layer come to your, your viewers. i would not get
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a head of this act important on hostage exchange. there's a lot, there can be a lot that needs to be done. we have to remember just 6 weeks ago on the u. s. m. a struck and killed and i'm on as our hearing are in a suburb of cobble. um and this troubled us sign and in our allies in that and that the, that the taliban regime immersed regime had promised in doha negotiations that there would be no, no terrorists harbored in there. but the bottom line that was 6 weeks ago and we just had a hostage exchange um prisoner exchange,
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which is significant. and um, and the foreign minister basically said that he or afghan foreign minister did state that of this up as a new chapter. so some things happen and there's a lot going on in the world around afghanistan and involving a nation's and so i would see there's not is a breakthrough, but it is promising, especially if it can help open up the humanitarian human rights and humanity. issues that concern all of us, graham it, when the taliban say this is a new era of relations with the u. s. is this an accurate characterization? no, probably not. that's probably a bit too optimistic on the part of the taliban. diplomats. some of whom would really like to see a more constructive relationship with united states and the western world. they
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have been really, you know, trying to, and the deadliest war on the planet earth and, and put it behind them. but, you know, as my colleague just said, it's really tough for the outside worlds to completely turn a new page while, you know, for example, the number one leader of al qaeda is killed on the taliban doorstep in kabul. and millions of afghan girls remain shut out of about half of the secondary schools in the country. so there still are these i would say major stumbling blocks in the relationship between the taliban and the world. a hammered. as you know, the, the taliban have been desperate for international recognition from the americans in particular because they know that diplomatic recognition would follow from the international community. cash would flow into the country and that would help the taliban significantly. now, after this prisoner swapped to see an opportunity for the taliban to further expand
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its reach towards different countries all over the world. thank you for having me. first of all, i think i would echo the previous yesterday that it would be a bit to church to say that this would lay the foundation for any move towards the recognition of the taliban. formal recognition of the taliban because we know that informally both the us but also other rival countries in the region like china pockets and russia. non level countries like pakistan have relationships with a ton of on some of those relationships are to the level of actually accepting taller bon, designated, so called diplomats in the embassies that are still active. that were accredited to the former republican government of afghanistan. but having said that, i think it is important for us to recognize that how do you, but she knows i is actually another major new resign tribal leader who is also of
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the same tribe as the supreme leader of the taliban at the moment. so if, if the americans actually got a citizen back, the taliban got a founding father back and founded father who is very closely related to the tribal leader. and the reason why i call him a founding father is because he was there, and milan omar was, was founding the taller bond and trying to build something out of nothing. and he was there being a financier and using his networks. so here is a man who is walked in both worlds, the telephones world and the americans world. and he's a been able to maintain his relationships in both. so to the extent that significant, i think we come on the taller bond side, but we do not expect any major shift towards the formal diplomatic recognition of the tyler bond for the reasons that were described earlier. general vog you, you're smart enough, kindness and you do understand that the country presents america with an extraordinary dilemma,
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which is basically when the americans pulled out they left behind a political vacuum. there was exploited by many and the case of a man as a why had it was just an indication of the danger of not being there. but at the same time, how do you think will the americans think about any potential rapprochement with the taliban in the near future is going to be a very cautious, prolonged political process. oh absolutely. it will be prolonged and are cautious. oh that the, the poly bon, the on m r i t must, must show us sincere results. and this is wine. a tsar here is a death was so important because it was a signal from us and our allies that no, you can't harbor trans national terrorists on your land. as you said, you would not. all right, 6 weeks later we,
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we had this extraordinary meeting at the airport in exchange. that is an opening. that is, that is shows open mindedness and pragmatism on both sides. now the devil being the details is my colleague said, and will there be human rights or will, will girls be able go back to school on all these issue? oh, can natalie bon get a handle on isis? her a son that are continues to kill and maim primarily a hosario and she writes. so, so, and so, and, and that was a bad things happened there this year saying that we are in a bit of a new age, great game in the region. and while the u. s, i believe has no interest 0 of having boots in the ground there, they have shown they have an over the horizon presence. and there are issues with the poly bonds neighbors. and i think that the taliban leadership feels it. whether
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it is he at are whether it is pakistan or china, or russia and other regional, a neighbors grain. now the, the america's us generals mike has just said have absolutely no interest in sending boots on the ground in anytime in the future. i think they do understand of the same time in the keep freezing the central the african center bank assets in the u . s. that has the potential to just create a chaos enough gunnison. and i think ultimately the americas. a premise concerned about a kiosk scenario and this integration of afghanistan. yeah, i think that's exactly right at this point. american interests, i think, are primarily in stability in preventing the large scale proliferation of weapons and militancy throughout the region. and probably in assisting european partners in stemming the flow of migration to europe. and so for all those reasons, yes, the united states in the western world have been sort of re investing in trying to
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put the pieces back together to quite literally keep the lights on in afghanistan. and that he saw that with the as you mentioned, the, the recent movement on the central banking assets, which we put into a trust fund in geneva. initially it will be $3500000000.00 us dollars, but it could grow as other parts of the frozen assets are collected. and that will hopefully allow for a bit of macroeconomic stability. hopefully, you know, some slow and calibrated flow of money back into da, be the central bank and that will allow for, for the economy to get back on its feet. and so, yes, it is odd after everything that's happened for the outside world to be helping the taliban with an economic recovery. but that's exactly what's required at this moment. a hammer with all the international concerns about the, the way they are vitale, by not handling the daily business of their own country. they remain extremely
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powerful. this seems to be absolutely no genuine challenge of their own authority. do you think that this could be an indication to everybody that pragmatism should prevail and that one day or another the world has to come to deal with the taliban? this is really not the 1st time that the u. s. has engaged in an exchange of a hostage for a convicted tal upon prisoner or other type of tolerable leader. but all the tall, non tolerable actors in a kind of fun today from the national resistance front, which is an armed opposition resistance front group to the girls and the groups that are being targeted, including the as our, as the sure civilians and even the churchmen turkic ethnic groups are watching because this will not be the 1st time that the u. s. has been calculated and has been pragmatic, but it is another indicator that anyone expecting the us to commit to a notion of human rights, political inclusion,
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and sustain that commitment when the going really gets tough. they had should really double check their assumptions. because the mere fact that the u. s. is dealing with the taliban mere weeks after they killed the leader of al qaeda in their capital under the taliban. the protection i think is reason for the pragmatism that the americans are approaching this with. and it strengthens the taliban significantly. you know, it's kind of stunned because it signals not true, not just people enough kind of son who oppose the taliban, who are asking for their rights, including the school girls. but also other actors in the region. we're thinking about supporting the opposition and the rights of the african people that the u. s . which is a major actor in this equation, remains absolutely disinterested at and in those notions at this moment, at a level that they can commit and follow through. when, when it really matters generally like this is an extraordinary part of the world amid an ever changing political landscape, well would,
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from your own directive constituent, an effective us strategy. and i've got is that in the near future, should the americans in a way, another way, shape what they want to achieve when it comes up based like i've got it then under the current circumstances a 1st i'd like to just follow up with my colleague statement there is a resistance in, in afghanistan to the cali, bon that goes beyond isis. and my colleague mentioned the national resistance front . that contest, about 7 of provinces. it's estimated primarily in the north and north of north east. and that, and in the, in the taliban has had to send up forces troops to try to fight this. so, so it, it's beyond isis. and it is contested. and primarily the lands that sort of neighbor of the, of central asia on. so you've got that,
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i think as far as the u. s. equities and everything else, i think it's, it's a matter of being a, being a totally direct um and looking up for a tangible, palpable a poly bon acts that would open it up. and yes, the region on it is a, a cross flow of influence. and, and, um, agenda. all these countries are up there and an afghan of stan hours per it's, it's st. remains the crossroads. i think one reason that they reach out again is, is the monetary side, it's recognition, but it is a power on recognition. they live in a tough neighborhood. um and um and that could only get tougher. um if there are, if their control ah, rigid control of it starts get really, really brittle and, and fracture along the edges and grammar. do you think this could be the perfect
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moment full key player, such as russia unsigned to pull of gun his ton to was the own fit of influence? well yes, they've certainly been trying. i spoke to someone who is in a meeting with the chinese foreign minister in kabul, and they were promising a lot of things they were talking about extending the so called belton road initiative, all the way into afghanistan, building railways and reopening mining projects. and so, yeah, there are a lot of big promises coming from americas historic rivals in the region. but so far it really is the western world that is spending the money to try to get the country back on its feet. and so the west remains the major player. and the reason why they are doing business with the taliban is because really, there is no alternative at this point. you know, yes, there is a small insurgency in the north and also in the east by isis. but you know,
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it's really it, when i was back there recently, i was, you know, i've been missing the country since 2005 i was really struck by the level of calm on the streets. and so you know that the taliban are anywhere for the moment. and so, you know, i think there really is a need to sit down and make a development plan with them. you know, how are we going to do irrigation? how are we gonna open up electricity corridors, these kinds of projects because there is no alternative really dumping bags of food and you know that the largest humanitarian operation in the world just isn't sustainable or sufficient. and so yeah, there does have to be a morse or rational economic. okay. with the taliban. ahem. and in the absence of any progress, when it comes to heal or vice inclusive political process, women goes education and the issue of minorities. do you think it's too early to talk about any possible political reconciliation between the afghan different afghan factions? in fact, it is, it is the time to talk about political reconciliation,
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not just political reconciliation, but about a political process in which the people of afghanistan, men, women, minorities, people with disabilities, urban, rural consent together and actually discuss the kind of government that they want in their future because this tolerable her connie regime has been violently imposed and tacitly accepted by the international community. and it is not accepted by the people of afghanistan. and it should be noted that although isis as part of a pan islam is global telephone, that resistance, that is the national resistance front is not comparable for in any way to isis. and i think the com that my colleague has observed in cobble is absolutely factually correct. that the tolerable used to be that the authors that many of the large attracts, were killed africans, american civilians and non civilians are no longer doing those attacks. and but,
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but the has are minority and other minorities, the sushi religious order is, are being targeted just as they were before the taller one came violently to power . the thing about com is that it is called in a graveyard. but you don't want to live in a graveyard because there is no life there. and i think the cong is observed on the streets of a kind of sun is what calm like that in which intolerable her effectively silenced by force. any kind of life or signs of activity and there will be no economic activity because nobody would like to invest anything in a country, in which there is no rule of law that there is no parliament that there is no methods in which no areas where they could reduce the business grievances, even if the, the agreement derangement in the trust fund arrangement is finalized in switzerland . i think there's going to be major difficulties because they're political environment. all right, i've got a son is going to same. so as long as paula bonner in power of very little things,
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very little is going to change economically and politically gentle us even if there are outside that are checking. okay. i get your point general is why the americans have sources of leverage, international recognition and a financial assistance. now they're not on the ground. do you think that this could be a moment for the americans to reconsider teaming up with care regional player such as a pakistan, india to be able to try to reconsider what it wants to achieve when it comes to a place like of canada? i think that all always to work the diplomatic track on is, is a carefully positive understanding. these countries have direct equity in afghanistan. while we do stay part, we have to remember one thing. there are also millions of afghans influential afghans in the diaspora in our country. they also have a lot of interest and can really influence also inside afghanistan and in our
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capitals. and we should not forget them. this is good. yes. anything that we can do . we don't want to fight. we don't wanna get in. but, but anything that we can help regionally to pro, actively and constructively, um, aid up ghana, stan humanitarian, afghanistan with a without giving any any a power mechanism to the tale. bon, i think it's just prudent and as i said, there is a new aid. great gang, that is likely you brow so yes. carefully, eyes wide open pragmatically and not. and again, there are no, no harboring transnational terrorists and no, no export of malign behaviors and then the internal human rights that mean so much, not just my country, but all of our country's thank you. thank you. channels fuck graeme smith. i'm a,
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