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hello everyone, i'm josh rushing and you're in the stream. today we're talking about hunger and somalia, the challenges facing a groups there and what can be done to help. we want to hear your thoughts and questions. so see that they're joined us in that conversation. we have a lie producer waiting to get your questions to me so that i can get them into the show. ah. the walls worse famine in a century is looming over parts of somalia as the horn of africa, braces for its 5th consecutive seasons of drought. the war in ukraine has caused food and supply prices to skyrocket. pushing many people to the brink, united nations says time is running out to save millions of people from starvation and are seeking more than $1000000000.00 to provide humanitarian relief. have a listen to what the stake in somalia, what can be done,

what must be done to help millions of people in need a mid this terrible drought crisis is a massive scale up of humanitarian assistance. as the human world food program we've already scaled up to reach more people than ever before, but we need the funding to sustain and increase the scale up. one of the major challenges is getting this aid to the people who need it most, especially in areas where access is difficult because of conflict and insecurity where families that have lost livestock. we have millions of people. we've been internally dipped, displeased, and we are calling for donors and international community to provide more supports to provide more funding so that we can scalable innovations to look in somewhat more people. and so let's look at 7 more lives. joining us today from smalley, lan, nemo hassan, she's the director of the somalia in g o. consortium. we also have holden ali, the director of the durable solutions unit in mogadishu. who's at the u. n. in new

york this week, an ester, the gumby, or the assistant professor at the university of illinois. now, before we get to our guest, i want to show you the audience, a map of what's happening in the country. now the map on the left, that one right there, actually, you're looking at it now that shows where we are up to the end of this month in september, in what you see as a country in crisis. but once we roll into october through december, much of the orange becomes red. and you see an emergency. you see red flags for millions of lives at stake. and let me show you why. let's go to my computer here. this is a tweet from samantha power at u. s. a. i d. the map that has some of the blue and green on here is 2017. this is the last time that somalia faced a possible famine and actually didn't go through the family. you see some blue and green there. look at the difference between 20172022. what 5 seasons of

drought have done to this country? it has read like it's on fire, nemo ear in the region. what's going on there? what's happening? good evening, josh. thank you for having me. i think you actually painted a very stock situation and some of the moments were over 90 percent of the country is experiencing extreme drought conditions. with about 7800000 people close to 50 percent of the population. now facing crisis level insecurity, children are already dining. some parts of the country partners on the ground have been calling out for support to support the life setting interventions at mass scale. and i think you've also showed the 27th, the difference between 20172011 was also another worst crisis with a quarter 1000000 people. at least 133000 of them children. i'm but

2022 where we are now is actually unprecedented. the worst we've seen. this is long, i'm conflict. you have the impact of cobra. one thing you have this drought which is full consensus, i think the western 40 is and that's taken place at the moment. and if we don't scale up the rate that the situation is getting, we will see much more death than in 20112017. the global community reacted well in time and a birth famine. we need to do the same show some video here. this is from the whirlpool program and reuters and i want to warn our viewers. it's not easy to look at this is to see,

but i don't want to be so privileged that we don't see what's actually happening on the ground in somalia. how did you tell me what was it actually like for the families there right now? what are they going through? i think misery and miserable is not enough of it. actual hell on earth for some families at the mom and the pictures that you showing. i mean, i came back to somebody on talk 2011 at the height of the famine in it's starting to look like that. we haven't seen really dramatically the same numbers, but the images that are starting to show are heading in that direction. and as you pointed out on the map earlier in terms of the extreme levels of the drought, accumulative additives of consecutive and weighed failures in insecurity. the impact of this time is gonna be much greater because

communities have lost the resilience to withstand a lot of these are shops that are happening right now. so if, if we don't respond immediately, i think we are going to see maybe a double. what we've saw in 2011 so that you know, those images that you're showing now, even in not that's not just the rural areas. we're seeing images of that in the show, the capital of the country. how on earth i think yeah, i was actually going to ask you, ah, it also starts want to bring him some boards from. are you to community? this is louis still says, how was famine still a thing in this day and age and what ways can world powers help to solve the issue we're going to get to solving at toward the end of the show. but 1st i want to say, well how, how does this keep happening? why is the south lea exactly? that is the reason and we know why it's hot and it's because every year when droughts happen in the home of africa, all we do is jump out of the 8. we put a,

bonded, we put a bonded and we know that we don't do any long term concrete actions. and for example, we us, for right now the u. m is before a, to 1000000. with that thought, $18000000.00, it's all going to be spent on immediate to a vot junglin from guy. but why are we not looking concrete measures? why is a we have in drought, climate change? most of the communities, i depended on grain fed agriculture to produce crops that livestock to i depending on great their failing, we cannot be and completely andre. so it is important to realize that all we are doing is, every year, having this temporary, ah, measures not to concrete measures when even if we have concrete measures,

what we're going to look at and as raphael, what is happening to see here what is walking, what is not wanting so that we can skill this best practices again when it happens next year after you brought in the you, well we actually have a comment from the un commission for human rights. robina sham, dasani. here's what she had to say about it. the ongoing conflict with elijah bob complicates the humanitarian response in terms of gaining access to many of those who are in need. children, women, and older persons are bearing the brunt of the crisis. as the majority of people displaced by drought, this makes children more vulnerable to abuse and exploitation, to recruitment and to use by armed forces and groups, and at risk of sexual violence. the drought is already resulting in increase fighting over ever scarcer resources, which has led to larger displacement of communities and an increase in violence

against women and children. her name is emma. he wanted to jump in there, but what i was picking up from asked her was sounds like, if we keep putting the band aid on it that this is gonna get worse year after year . does that? does that ring true to you? absolutely. i totally agree with that, and i think, i mean obviously somebody has been in crisis for the last 50 years and you know, this area the home because it's not prone to drought, but the current climate crisis actually proportionately affecting the community and especially the poor communities who are being hit by one crisis off the other. and i totally agree that we are focus the money that i see the responses to, to, to focus on the band aid to humanitarian life saving. what we need to do is to invest in those shots on long term development programs. we need to go beyond the humanitarian response and approach this problem with which certainly will come back

again. and again, from a development angle, you know, we need to be certain questions and how can somebody adapt to climate change, which actually is the lease contributor to the current crisis? and how can it she'll, it's population from the negative impact of climate change. how resilient are the economy and probably the finances to natural disaster and climate change. these are the questions that need to be answered by all stakeholders, including donors on the somebody government to ensure that these fundable communities can withstand these constant shocks are predictable. coming back, i want to get you in on this, but guys, i want to share something on my computer real quick because it seems to me that somalia is often at the tail end of what crises are happening around the rest of the world. seem to like land and hit harder in somalia. so for example, the war in ukraine is having a mass effect effect in somalia. but just this week the cabinet ministers of

ukraine have allocated approximately $12000000.00 to provide humanitarian, a. d t o, p and somalia would suffer from view shortage. this is coming through odessa. well, how long should wait until the an 8 tonight is the question. that is the question. every step called every leader including those who are attending the own gullies. yeah. those are the questions that we should be asking, and demanding answers, immediate answers and answers that have concrete action. so as i said, i, we need to ask this question, does anyone j, you're at the u. n g o r r u, as in those questions in our people responding. so i can pick up where esther left off and also maybe the video. i think it's easier to justify the problem that as somebody is crisis right now to security, etc, etc. i think there's a failure in terms of the 8th system in the infrastructure that is in somalia. we

are missing the point. i mean, obviously, right now we're about saving lives, and obviously we need to raise funds to quote, unquote, save nice of beyond the saving lives. i, our government, the somali government needs to start acting and asking the right question around how the money that the the country is allocated is being spent. we know on the ground that the money that some money receives is not efficiently spent on resilient building programs. water infrastructure diversification of a likelihoods and etc, etc. and i think it's so long as we keep sidestepping the real problems, we're going to be yet another famine in a couple of years. the issue of climate is just one issue that has derailed the interventions in somalia. obviously now with exacerbating everything, but there is a system infrastructure issue in terms of from donor giving money to you and agencies implementing programs and the lack of sort of read

a long term strategy around how do you listen somali as a income or, or alignment comes comes from life stuck in farming. yet we have been very little to support those communities who have been very little to actually maybe move this communities from, from those particular skills to other skills or they can start, you know, living life rather than being saved all the time from 2011 till now. the displacement capone of somebody has doubled. so now nearly 40 percent of the population. so one in to be some mileage is displaced by the end of this year's drought, or hopefully not a famine. we're going to much more people displaced yet. we continue to fund emergencies rather than sustainable development programs. i think so long as we're not talking about that. we're not talking about the issue. yes. a we raising the issues we are in every so i'm sitting so. 8 then and now hope sitting,

we are asking him, we are advising to invest differently and i think it's time also on the government end to say no, this is what some money needs aligned. the investment with the national development . now with no ho solution that our tenant for local problems and as long as we're not doing that, we will be back on this show in couple of years. talking about the same issue. unfortunately, i think you're right, you're right about the one of the things i keep on you go and read and read right now i day or every one to open and read about do all we leave is the problem. the problem, where are we not talking about the solutions, what i the end, what is being done? even the journalist that report all you report is images of people that are dying at the up woke it's of ah lights. i don't look at the projects that are walking that can then be scaled. can we have equal reporting to be able to see?

because at the end of the day, i think when we just report on one side, the east of the ishall, then everybody sees its doom and gloom. there is nothing that we can do, i think also asked her as a reality of the news, right? if we were wondering about the famine and drought in small you today, we would be reporting about floods in disease in pakistan today. and if it wasn't about that, it would be about war and war crimes and ukraine. i mean, we don't want borderline to take off and don't crash. that's just the nature of the media, right? yes. but i saw then i think need to challenge ourselves. what is it? n keels to start actually sharing. what are these projects, initiatives that are walking in the ground on ground solutions so that they can scale that. ok, good doesn't. it does look no less. com, melissa week in as them in the projects. anyway, i'm going to set you up. i sent you an email because i want to bring in some voices from youtube and you guys gotta hear this. actually some distrust of the n jose in

youtube and him i think you might be best to address this. but um we have muse, yusef, who says only somalian people can help migration f efforts uh hold on. i want to get to the eras as who st says the aid industry has raised billions. where's all that money gone? ah, there's lots of questions about the ngos, the money in a distrust there. kit nemo, can you address that? please? thank you very much. i'm. i think, i think everyone hear the panel on the video some questions, you know, i mean there really key questions that we need to ask ourselves across the spectrum where the governments don't s o n jose. and i think we really need to critically look at what we've done correctly. and i think we have done a lot rightly because many, many people will say some happening. so if somebody has, if dependent on aid, any type of aid, whether to meditate and development,

and i think it's really important. now we are asking those critical questions across the spectrum. i certainly think the government needs to take a bigger role in ensuring that so the probably finance is can also would stand. it's really good to hold each other accountable on exam and exactly how that money's been spent. like i said earlier, what is really important is king at the time in the modeling, the finance model at the moment is focused on humanitarian, which is and those life saving activities. and like i said, the system to him as him system has been stretched over the last 30 as well. whether it's in constant crisis in for monday. if you haven't had the time to recover 2011, you have the standing by the time 2017 hits. people have barely recovered from the funding and the impact on their livelihoods. 201718. 2019. you have the look to my actually definitely to people's crops. 2021 and 19 you

have cobra pandemic, the global obviously hitting the poorer community is far worse. then you have the ukraine crisis. we success a bit that everything insulation is going to have full price of going up. well now for communities, if i'm not able to afford the full price of triple o w certain areas in the country, so i think we need to look across the spectrum. we also need to focus on development aid, ensuring that equally investing development, short term, long term recovery plan so that these communities are able to withstand and when shocked, come and they will inevitably come as well as 30 in there. yes, i agree with everything and also we, i think these lead to look at data science. what is science telling us? let's here into the warnings even as we are talk about famous droughts. we know that these already existing data intelligence, satellites, data,

we know that this is a, an impending situation. we need also to create accountant accountability across the sectors, including not only the n g us, but even within the united nations, our system within the governments. no one should feel like they are in their will safe and they should not be looked at. i think it's important to but most importantly, i think i, we also are excluding people that may be part of solving this salad. for example, i think of diaspora, ah, who are people like me? we're house here who have lived in these countries where we can still i do a big part of the intelligence a we also missing in for every dollar that is spent on humanitarian 8. if descent is put aside to do meaning for long term development projects that build in their resilience that we need and what does the bat resilience look like?

it should be a very, a well thought out. and when great had documents that we not, okay, this is how we are going to talk on this. and then when we have records, we have, we know what to do. we are collaborating across the stakeholder. we are investing in long term as we do the shorter, you know, think we also leaning in into everybody in the hold on hold on. i'm going to come to your next floor. okay. hold on to a 2nd, asked her, i want to bring in another voice from our community. this is claire in a c k. and she is a campaigner from a greenpeace africa, and she's talking about solutions as well as her which here sir, 48 is good. it is not sustainable in the long run. and so my guess should be looking at increasing its at casual productivity. it should be looking at to putting in place of policy plans and resource location plans that to make sure that it's farmers have access to water so many back into can increase his just lake if

he had been a country african courtney. it's what had he so says ash, thinking, so position of water is important for it's from us to grow food should be looking at to provide me with such as we're gonna try to lessen the farmers building infrastructure to help comp foreclose his in food waste age and increasing the productivity of key cro possession. so come and fight and we just enhancing security but to for production is okay. and i'm looking at the comments from are you to bodies in that the biggest theme here might be how can they help? we even have a comment from someone named brad lovely, who says, can't we create a specialized app or use current social media platforms to leak flash match, interested international donors to the most serious cases in somalia. so there spitballing ideas here on your there at the you when, where it's, it's designed to deal with these kind of crises. i'm curious, are you running into any kind of disaster fatigue from international donors and what do you think can be done or what kind of solutions are you guys talking about?

not just for this crisis, but for long term moving forward. oh yes, there are low term solution discussions that are happening and i think people are as right. yeah, i think you know, the, the audience that is sending in the messages around. so i think there is, if the collective fatigue there's been a mistrust around what's happening in somalia and maybe in the horn across the region in terms of sort of the issues in why things keep on being the way they are . i think there's a lot of top down systems that are, that have been in place in somalia, in the submissions and the programming that happened or not necessarily bottom up community lead community owns local government and regional government support it. i work at the las pallet and it's really difficult to negotiate with

partners in funders, to actually support. ringback systems that are needed to address these long term issues. i, i do believe that you cannot you can't and you can't talk about solutions without actually building systems are government system. so mine is government systems over time have eroded and now we are in the back. you know, we're back in trying to build those systems, but yet continuously you see a non governmental entities delivering basic services in the majority of the resources are going towards that. so long term solutions. not only do we need to, their patient might of the hood and investment in community based programming. we also need to build systems because ultimately it'll, i mean, i'm in new york right now. and then who delivers, you know, schooling and policing and, and how can the, the local governments do, they did the, the municipalities. but yet these systems are not being invested to build in long

term community resilience. i mean, as far as you know, here in new york, i mean, you can imagine that there's a lot of conversations about getting funds and getting funds and getting funds. but i do think until and unless we go back home in, we sit at the table, especially those at the decision making are capacity where they are there is to ensure that whatever funds are coming this year in the, in the, in the years, the come are promoting yes, i got a rafter. how here work a finally should on a 2nd, but i want to know that al jazeera is gonna keep watching this. we know that as we move into october, december, things could get much worse there. if people look in health programs like well, food program are out there. that's it for now. thank you for joining us. ah

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