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pretty pop you metal al jazeera, you daily, just want to bring you more reaction to the referendums that are taking place and occupy parts of ukraine on adjoining russia. now, earlier we had reaction from washington saying that it's prepared to impose additional sanctions on russia. if it moves to officially annex more territory in ukraine, so let's get there. the react shaft mine has corresponded. kimberly, how can it seems as though the white house has been in communication with its allies about the possibility of further economic sanctions else? right. the white house press briefing still underway, but the white house press every could courage on pierre st. just moments ago that in conjunction with its allies, the united states is preparing to put in place economic cost to our polling. it's referendums that are so a sorry. kimberly at we've lost you for
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a moment, but please continue. alright, well, what we understand from the white house is that in fact, there is a desire to punish russia for the invasion of ukraine, of course, now into its 7th month. and as a result, in conjunction with its allies, the united states is planning to move ahead with further sanctions against russia. this would be done, but in essence, to punish it for these a planned referendums that are taking place in parts of eastern ukraine. the united states sees these not only as what they call a sham, but illegitimate, and as a result, what we know is that the united states will not recognize them. and a will also see these results as being manipulated. i will not accept the results now. further, what we should say is that in fact, as this comes on the heels of that escalating rhetoric from a, the kremlin,
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what we should tell you is that in light of all of this report is asking again, if given the threat of the use of nuclear weapons by russia is the united states, going to adjust its posture. the word from the white house is there is no need to do so at this time. thank you very much. our white house correspondent, kimberly hallett reporting to us. thanks very much. kimberly. that's it for now when you see later on, the stream is coming up next. ah i i am from the okay on today's upset and stream when looking ahead to the october
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the 2nd connections in brazil. there are 12 presidential candidates, but we're going to be looking at the leading to present i at both scenarios. and also lewis and asio new la da silva. here they are debating on august the 29th. are you good? the shade wife, the country i left is a country that the people mess. it was a country of employment. it was a country where people had the rights to live with dignity, with their heads up in this country, we'll come back. you can probably go to, so there was corruption, president lula. you want to come back. what for? to keep doing the same thing. and petro, battle rife, get little bit there for the workers party, the worse off the people are the poor, the better for them to do politics off those. it will, if you so much. so you have to very different candidates that what would you like to know about them on today show we are going to be exploring key campaign issues and what's at stake for presenting. and you can do in a conversation right here in the comment section on you chip,
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ah, o i x, what extra panel. hello elona. i be honest. this is so lovely to have all 3 of you here. we are going to unpack the upcoming elections. what's that state? what's going on in brazil right now in? no, no. welcome, please say hello to our audience around the world. thank your family. my name is elena zabel. i am the co founder president of they got to get to have you adriano. welcome. please say hello to audience. thank you for having me. i me, i'm a video on the market. my manager asked students for liberty, brazil that to happen. and cecilia, nice to see you, please say i like mazda c a to thank you so much for inviting me. i'm cecilia, turn agi. i'm managing editor at americas quarterly. all right, very good. i am going to get you guess, to build a picture of what these 2 candidates are like. let's put up the candidate who's
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currently present at the moment. cecilia, tell me 2 things about post now or that would be helpful for him to national wants to know both to narrow came and from left field, even though his on the right. he just surprised everybody when he got elected. he is a long time politician who was in congress for almost 30 years as a french character who just exploded in 2018 as the leading candidate with a the scorsone, a rhetoric of supporting families. freedom which to him equates a right to have guns and against abortion, and for family and specially religion. all right, and it did. cecilia, any of you anything more to add to post now so we get this instant picture of how he's campaigning. what is he's like, what did he style like you? cecilia, just put him in the right place, but i would say that he's in a far life. are right. candidates like very much like trump and the week there are
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button and what police authoritarian leave those that are trying to undermine democracy from within. and that's an important feature for the election because it's an election about democracy. we have so it feels that we've got to polar opposites as lead and candidates. let's have a look at louise in astro new lead to silva put his candidate caught up. and this time and known it, you start with 2 things that would be helpful for us to know before we get deep into our conversation to her. so lula is pregnant that came from the people he had the to context of mandates and was responsible for include the most number, the populations in, let's say the lower and middle middle class. so he comes with a flag of we're going to be happy again. he last also with the corruption gambles, the processes that you are facing were newly 5 by the justice system because they
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were not respecting the due process according to our supreme court. so he wants to come back to just try another another time to show what he's far too has to do for the brazilian people see here that yeah, and this is sort of a playback. this election should have been in 2018. so in 2018 hoola was ahead in the polls when he was arrested and taken to jail under the legation that the, that you learned just mentioned. so he was taken out of that run right, a few months before the election. so now we're actually sort of re read the re living a 2018 election, but yes, lula has a banner of poverty fighting against poverty. he was a poor man himself. he came from a very, very poor family that migrated from the northeast almost on foot. and had, you know, very little education and sort of like pulled himself up from the bootstrap's and
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became a new union leader. very well known love to global that he is a relatively well spoken man. i mean, he really has the power of words and resonates with people, but so does both in are completely different narrative. but he's also incredibly powerful in his speech. i. d, and i'm wondering what the atmosphere is like in brazil right now female weeks to go before the elections. what is at stake for brazil at this point in terms of social conditions, living conditions, what might be possible depending on what happens on october? the 2nd well actually we are facing a very polarized environment, right now. we're down. sions are like all over the place. actually, i just hope that whoever gets elected, we have a little more space to debate peacefully because i see maybe there, there is a,
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arise of violent speeches, etc. so i'm kind of worried that this may get worse depending on who gets elected. can you give me an example when you say there's a rise of violet speeches say you've got a better view of that than we have. what does that mean? what have you heard? basically on social media, i think ilana, will agree with me. that's something that we see every day actually on where people are attacking each other, you know, you know, very hostile wait, actually. and it seems like we can debate politics in the city more and i need you thought and then to so you can feel you pick out that these are the very important the so i think i hate speech. this information with information is not new, but it has been with us in the last election. but this to say that there is
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a different thing now, which is the rectory actually from the phone buttons in terms of political violence that people should respond to any result which is not the result of he winnie with violence. take the gun that he allowed people to buy and then just in his speech, protect democracy which, which of course, i would argue that it's against them all proceed, but that's, that's what that's take. i believe a part of the political violence, silica had it. yeah, i'm just going to add on the andrea and actually throw you another question to, to, to a loaner because the we're, we're seeing just today in the news again, another person who was killed by another one by an political discussion. and the man just, you know, killing each other. there was another men celebrating his birthday party was killed because he had la banners around his birthday party. so this trends, ladies, it's moving out of social media and we had this pushed for more guns on the streets . and that to me is the scariest part of the moment in my country is,
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is this push for more weapons and the longer that's what i say because of the rise was what like some 300 percent more guns in the hands of civilian since 2018 something like that, right? absolutely. so this is say, you know, i work for over 20 years in civil society when and like with a non partisan independence organization. but we're here really facing track to are the more crack system what the other day and brought in terms of lack of dialogue. we had the closer to the space in this country that was unprecedented since the dictatorship time was facing. now is the really the, the intent of not accepting there was the results of the election. and of course, society and institutions are pushing back against that. but we're having to restate every day our support for democracy to come through. and my organization has been leading the gun control, i say, initiative with another organization called the school to so the 5 to,
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to be able to help out, let's say, a evidence base dialogue of what it means to leave or not. but then we'll craddick state where people have to like, accept the rule of the law and cannot pick justice into their own. hence, i john, let me share with you some headlines that we picked out their international headlines. i some concerns from outside of brazil, on my laptop here prep, brazil's presidential campaign kicks off and made fears of violence. facebook i would, i matter is failing to prevent a repeat of january the 6th in brazil report warns than imminent election crisis in brazil are these over wrought with these accurate i think it's accurate actually, because like i said, we are facing a very polarized campaign. political campaign. ok. and since the beginning of the campaign, i feel that things are getting a little bit worse in this sense. um, because like i told you before, you go social media in to see people are taking each other. like,
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it seems like we are not able to more to talk as individuals will have to respect each other's views. and that's something that really worries me because like helena said, it's democracy who is at stake. so it's important to was to learn how to talk to each other again with respect and peacefully. let's talk about issues that are impacting voters. and sometimes what some of the campaign child is not what really is needed for the country. i'm wondering if there's a disconnect there, but for you to see that what is one of the most critical issues that will be important when people go to vote and they make that decision hunger. i think for, you know, if you have 33000000 people hungry and a country e, it's, you know, when he gets to the vote, it's one vote one person. it doesn't matter what your bank account is like. so right now we do have several cohorts of society that support one or the other, but
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a large one that they are hungry, they need food on the table. so i think that for a very large bit of the population, ah, because the 33000000 that are going hungry, then you can add easily several other 1000000 people who are just scraping by. so once you have this scenario, i think that's what it's going to count the most at the moment of voting. i would agree just that the cost of living in general has increased the many as in many other parts of the world. but brazil faces an economic crisis. people are like with difficulty the pain, their b. o. so unemployment. i also see people worried about health and education. so the public goods provision and of course so violence and security is always also in the order of the day. so it's a, it's a jobs economics and public goods election. what about indigenous vote is because often they all pushed out of the thinking of what,
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where is brazil going next? something that luna is always been thinking about. but bo sanara has changed that trend in the last few years. climate save me amazon, who is important to the voters. that's very interesting question i cuz i asked myself like, you know, you see the world looking at the brazil and thinking of brazil as, as, as a big amazon and to the issues there. but you go into the amazon and you see a population that needs jobs and who is employing them, who is giving them jobs, illegal loggers, illegal miners, and people who wore pushing deforestation. so these are jobs and you know, the larger groups that are behind this push are not the ones actually doing, but cutting of the trees. so you have a real issue that we're both in our support in the north, despite his a b, let's say a weird environmental a policies it's,
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it's very strong because these are their jobs. so i think that there is a great disconnect there. but if i may say, so given the indigenous, i think that one thing that happened since 2018 is that the indigenous groups got a lot more voice and guts and are getting a lot stronger. so i think if there is any benefit to the old is the, you know, insanity that it's happening on their situation. it's that even though it's the because it got worse to them, i think they got more of a voice and they're getting heard more and more active and more organized. even, you know, indigenous women are organizing and several other groups. so i think that there is strength in numbers and they are still need support from the outside, but i think they are getting stronger. let me just now weekly. sure. um, yeah, and i think i should have us. no, i think that was a very important issue because it, on the one hand cecilia sulkily right to say they got more voice and they are coming bigger numbers. i think it's the highest number since we started recording
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the number of candidates that self declare indigenous. but it's also because they are under threat your toward the territory or under threat. so they feel they need to mobilize politically. so you see a pushback and it's a, it's a good the pushback in representation and we hope you know, many of them get elected. i want to just play a little by it from luna to silva talking about the indigenous people for sale on why they are important to him and also to brazil. of course, as having listen, this country cannot continue to be governed by someone who doesn't like indigenous people who doesn't like black people, who doesn't like women who doesn't like union leaders, who doesn't like the amazon, who doesn't like serrato catania. the amazon rain forest who doesn't like it's people so we wouldn't be completely about talk about election. we out talking about misinformation was the information out there. i think that that's now typical for
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every election that has any digital input i do on what's going on. you know what sat messages recently on one sec? yeah, actually there's a lot of fake news. we have a lot of groups today so you can go around, you know, and what is dangerous about it is that information spreads really quickly. so i get something like, i don't know at 4 o'clock and then 430, everybody knows the same thing. and sometimes it's a misleading information that i have to have about ask what kind of misleading information. because then we've said it on al jazeera, but give me an idea of saying that is obviously so lose request that everybody is not going to believe it. um, basically formation about the 2 candidates leading candidates, both scenario and lula, and a misleading formation about both of them. that's what i see the most. actually, like i'm, like i said before, it seems like people can talk i'm, i'm on
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a peaceful level. so they have to attack each other and most of the time using lice to do it. so, oh, i don't actually know how we're going to to when to fight this, because everybody is free to share whatever they want. but, but it's a, it's a problem. we are facing right now because many people don't go after information to try to find the truth before themselves. and they believe the 1st thing they see . yeah, this thing is now no, very long as i was just commenting, that is one of the scariest thing. yeah, and i would say one of the most of the mental one is the ones at the into question, our electoral voting system, which is a very modern $11.00 that elected including a current president. and you know that he and his group a tried the whole time to discredit the system, saying there is a secret room that would control and the fraud brazil's elections. and i think this
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is a very, very dangerous message. as unfortunately, when we've seen the polls, the presence 2 or 3, i do believe that the election sir can be further than that war fraud. even if he was elected. yeah, i yeah. he said that he wanted the 1st round. he didn't lose, he didn't win and 2nd, ready for them. right? not one example actually of the, you know, big run, you know, if i don't when the election has been stolen. absolutely. let me, i, this is, it's so interesting area. we spoke to maria, who is the director of human rights watch in brazil, and this is what she told us. it's almost a warning for what may happen post october. the 2nd, let's have a look. president wilson, that who is running for reelection has sought to, in their mind trust in the electoral system alleging without providing any proof that it is a reliable in addition to be attacking the independent media at taking the judiciary. there had been no proof in cases of fraud in brazil since we adopted the
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electronic electoral system more than 20 years ago. it's crucial that international community act in that way that support free and free elections in brazil. and then the clear cut method to wilson, that, that an attempt to not respect that we will proceed, voters will not be tolerated. so that's an issue that we don't know if it's gonna happen yet. there's some concern, but we don't know quite yet. i want to give our viewers watching this, or a little snippet of boston arrow to see his confidence at this stage in the campaign. and then i'm gonna open up our conversation. we have so many questions for you guess on youtube. we're going to do a speed around and see how many of them we can outset and address. but 1st his pastor, boston, our it is good. good. we know that we have a fight between good and evil ahead of us. the evil that lasted for 14 years in our country that almost broke our homeland adult now wants to come back to the crime
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scene. they won't. the people are by our side. the people are on the good side. the people know what they want. oh, all right, so let's go to youtube. we got so many questions and comments. renato, for instance, says president boston r. i refuse to buy pfizer vaccines. there were so many avoidable deaf c also not people dying without breath. it's clearly a death for our democracy. that is when our toes perspective, but it's interesting that for this home 20 minutes or so nobody mentioned convert a loaner. why? well, i would say because we're dealing with the threat of the day, but that was a huge issue in brazil, several 100 people, almost dad, there's a receipt that shows that 4 out of 5 of these that would be preventable if the government had acted the president was denied himself as
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a denial for climate change, for instance, but he was against masks. he was against buying rights, him like vaccines. so our governors actually did a great job and providing when his ation is brazil has like a very high records of university. our population, but i'll start with you now the on to back to move month. also route in the come through. so that was absolutely failure and a lot of like a suffering that should be prevented. all right, and you mentioned this earlier on how to invited resilience right now. how you tube comments and complete it if i did as well. edwardo knew that was the biggest thief in our country, mo, most an arrow is i want to be trump. what do we get out of that situation? if we've got one group saying your candidate is wrong, another group saying your candidate is well, who suffers or who benefits? arianna? and i think who suffers the most, is this the marsey itself?
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because like i said, i democracy is a to democracy, to be strengthened. we need a scenario where people can dial on, you know, and that's what i'm, i'm not seeing happening. so this is my main concern about the elections. and as you can see, we are facing a very paralyzed scenario. so i, it's just like a little microcosm of what is happening. i'm show in brazil, i've got this really interesting comment here to see that i'd love you to unpack it and, and maybe add to it if you can. the brazilian people want most narrow, but the lease one lula. that's one person's take. can you? yeah, it's interesting, it's so interesting that you know, and then if you ask that will be someone else who would say the opposite really is actually 40 both in our lives. i. that's the we got the to the situation where it's not an election of which policy we want. it's an election of which, which met the,
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which i don't we have. so it's really a right now, we're having this dispute of like mike and it is better than yours and this is the good versus evil. i election in not an election on issues and what brazil needs coming forward. and i don't know how we get out of this, but this comment just paints. to me, it brings a exactly, this idea that some people will say what he said, right? the rich and the port, the are, you know, a seminar commentary would assume you're interested in head, but it's neither. you have supporters for both in both areas. you have, you know, real elite supporting are both an arrow and you have real, you know, in the have the poor electing a supporting lula as well. so it's, it's, that's definitely not the issue. but if you get, you know, a comment from one side or the other, the, you, you are going to get this is, you know, this think that is just like we are in a stalemate,
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right now. we're not discussing issues. we're discussing who i like and who i don't to say that that is such a good way to getting to pedro's question. we've only got a minute to answer it, but they do it very quick quickly. if you can patch, i want to know what are the main points and plans of each government, lula government and a continued bo scenario government? is it really clear to the voters that they've got different plans? i think in the public debate, it's less clear. i think when you read the programs, you see that that one candidates both are not or is a moral the same in terms of what he planned to do before. but it didn't deliver onto corruption when there are many corruption scandals in his government that the most secretive governments, since the faith or shipping brazil don't know much, i think many things will come later. he also promotes the liberal economy, but didn't believer that he broke on that the liberals wanted the either in brazil . so lola comes back with the, let's include people. let's also put amazon back at the amazon forest back into the,
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you know, priorities over the country. let's have a education and health as a priority for, for all. so i think it's a more inclusive set of proposals, but i wanted to say that that was to see a mention. we don't have enough patch that looked at in that. yeah, we're at the very end of the shows that i'm glad that you are able to say that very briefly. and that i have time to say thank you and lona: adiana, cecilia, and all of your excellent questions on you cheap. i feel i got a little bit of the election bonds right here in the comments section. and so watching i see you next time take everybody ah ah
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