everything they eat, almost everything are mainly the peanuts, the outward them and lead them everywhere on the ground. conservation is say, it's important to find sustainable ways to mitigate conflict between wild animals and people. treated lemongrass. one solution, according to michelle henley, who's been studying elephants for 25 years, is growing our medic herbs such as chilly or lemon grass. and i'm so if you plant those crops in a broad barrier around your, your palatable crops, if you want to use as a food source, that's another way to deter elephants and to get income. another is installing hives. these giant animals is scared of bees. the debate will continue about how best to manage the growing numbers of these beautiful elephants. what is in dispute, though, is protecting these animals and preserving by diversity in the area. emily anglin, al jazeera kruger, national park, south africa. ah,

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poland that i met screeching cost at ballots. the pole has been organized by moscow banked separatists voting, also taking place in low hands. zapora zia and care song key than its western allies have dismissed the referendums as a sham. and those, the headlines one use fair enough, 0 after inside story. next ah, as germany reels from its worst energy crisis is chancellor tours gulf countries in search of alternative can they ensure secure energy, germany and europe. and how is gas shaping the politics of the region during the war in ukraine? this is inside store. ah.

hello and welcome to the program on has him secret german chancellor left schultz is in the gulf hoping to secure new partnerships with oil and gas rich nations. he met liz of saudi arabia, the united arab emirates, and cut are hoping to agree on how to meet the nation's energy needs since russia's invasion of ukraine since the war you countries have had to cut back on energy and look for supplies elsewhere. germany's economy is already on the verge of a recession, a mid soaring prices, and the prospect of a tough winter ahead. for one on the buffer kids, we've made progress and a whole series of projects now concerning the production of diesel gas. we have ellen gee, projects that play

a role here and of course also many things that have to do with modernization with projects. so this is very important for future economic cooperation. but of course, also for the transformation of national economy that are moving towards climate neutrality. now, of course, very relevant to the issues of energy security in this context, it was an important business and a good opportunity to continue good relation to the legal for you is facing a major shortage of energy before the war in ukraine. russia supplied 40 percent of the blocks natural gas and more than a quarter of its imported oil. germany is among the hardest hit countries previously importing. more than half of its gas from russia. france has access to other terminals and the u. k. have no direct pipelines to russia. combined, they consume less than 21 percent of moscow supplied energy. ah, let's bring in,

i guess now to talk more about this. joining us by skype from berlin is all right now he's professor of political science at stanford university in berlin, also by skype from doha. my job's away, re director of the golf study center at carter university. and andrea sw gold dow is professor at the really brent school of public policy. he joins us from berlin as well. good to have you with his gentlemen or a bright net. so all our shows is coming to the golf, looking for these new energy deals. why now, while it serves a number of purposes is on the one hand, a signal to the german public, that the government is frantically trying everything possible to address the problems that we are facing before we into that can be long can be hard. but it's definitely full of question marks, how hard we will be, it's and what to do with it. so it tends to sick now that he's collecting

opportunity is to reduce the dependency from russia. it will certainly not lead to the one replacement of the dependency by another, but it's a step in the direction off. on the one hand, he returns home with no contracts. and on the other hand, this is the beginning of a new foreign policy of germany and the european union. andrea gulf that how does this trip address? germany's energy needs particularly would that, would that rough winter approaching now? well, thanks for having me. i guess what we're looking at here essentially is a dire situation as only just said, i mean the europeans just lost essentially a 150000000000 cubic meters of gas a year. and that's a lasting last rush. it's not going to come back anytime soon. a lot of l n g essentially came in to replace the molecules that have been lost from russia and cut tar has been playing in a role here. and now germany hopes to get

a share out of the expanding production in ca, tar know, to be the northfield, which comes on line around $252627.00. and although this lies in the future, it will be important for germany and europe just because part of that is simply because the russian molecules are not going to come back. so a lot of what shoals just trying to do at the moment is forward looking. policy is certainly not about the upcoming winter. and striking a deal for that. and my job is way, what are the gulf countries get out of this? the united arab emirates, saudi arabia, and obviously they're going to get more business and they're going to get so more energy. but beyond that, in terms of the, of the geo politics, what do they gain from this? you know, hasn't been very interesting debate going on now about what's happening between europe, germany or other countries and to states. the nature of the debate basically. but interesting because what those lead to,

whether by the rub my call or now the jeremy are basically is hearing from, from the capitals that 22 kinds of debates. one that says, you know, by the way, you know, your relation was not developing with us and did it, is that of differences and then there are other debates. say, what will come future nations. i think this dominate the debate. why i'm, why i'm focusing on this just a quick, quick and intro, because i think this will for would shape the, the kinds of relations we witness. and will, you will, will tell us who are the main countries of the goal, will be in involved on this energy collaboration. what we are seeing now that there's more focus on that in back to color. because g, what we are hearing from europe and americans that they are not getting a very clear message, is that the, the, the minimum i can describe

a very clear message from the out that will be about the collaborate, the share of help. and that, that takes us to our, that live in which, what's happening instead of politics and how those countries are actually looking to their, to define their, all their role in near the future. it's, it's obvious that any investment on any detector coming from the gulf needs the contribution of that targeted country this into the germany, the united states, france, all of them. they need to be in bold on a lot of preparations. and i think what the 3 countries are trying to deliver to the european knows what is your share, what will be your contribution? and you have to mean to keep in mind the message from those countries. you have to keep in mind that we have an old partners like china, like japan, and we kind of basically give up with those people. so, you know, we need to respect our relations with other partners and you need to collaborate

with us. so we can help you. yeah. oh, it's bright. if i could send to you on some of that, as far as germany's relations with these gulf nations, what, what's at stake for them with regard to the war in ukraine and the political implications of that? while the war in ukraine is seen as a watershed and new situation into your politics and we are waiting to see in what direction things are moving. so the situations in 2016 when the european union didn't have direct relations, what they call corporation council countries on a ministerial that book to just wait, what is happening they and leave it to other international players who have an influence in the called as what has just been said that the relationship with china is considered to be much closer than with the european union. this is something

that europe in union and germany has the biggest country and you cannot afford to allow to stay in the like this in the future. so it's not just about energy, it's about security, it's about migration. it's about what's the situation in the balkans and in north and africa in which all these countries play an important role. and therefore at germany and the u. s. reaching out to build a broader and more comprehensive approach in the relationship with the countries in the region. angie's got that, how does germany's energy situation compare with the rest of europe with this, with this winter approaching now and the need to kind of diversify their, their energy supplies is, is there a sense that germany kind of got in there 1st? well look, i think, and it's important to acknowledge that things have been improved quite

a bit and quite fast. in fact, i mean, it is remarkable how quickly the rushing gas has been replaced by l. n. g imports. and on top of that, there have been a lot of ways in which a fuel switch happened from gas to other fuel security including coal, but also oil when it comes to industrial production. and on top of that, you got savings, industry demand this down, for instance, and we're seeing the impact on households as well. so if you add that plus gas storage, which has been filled up to the maximum level by now, or at least according to target by now, this gives us a reassuring situation for or outlook for the winter. but i think it's also important to acknowledge the fact that germany is part of the european energy system is not only about germany and forth with europe in ports. and germany does not necessarily import the l n g. it important elegy through say, belgium, or the netherlands and wouldn't it. for those elegy in port terminals,

the germans wouldn't have any gas. and so this, it is important to acknowledge that it is not only about one country, it's about an integrated system where sort plays a role not only for one country, but for various countries. and, and i think here the, the efforts of the european integration and particularly integration of the european in this market for the last 25 years deaf and re paying off. imagine wary . the issue of human rights is something that, that's come up in, in this trip. we're not sure how much these discussions there were discussions about this. the took place between all of shorts and the, and the various leaders. but if you look at saudi arabia, in particular, the crown prince mohammed soon been some man who was, you know, persona non grata up until the beginning of this year because of the, the murder of the saudi journalist jamal i shogi there a sense he's, he's, he's sort of coming, coming in from the cold. now that the,

the reality of politics a set in now for many western nations. no doubt the politics has changed. i mean, this starts with, by then, and now it's more still, most of the capitals. i think those capital, they felt the heat and one of the issues they cannot ignore the fact that they, they have to stop lecturing. people whether you agree or not. they were lecturing people. it was a human rights. they were lecturing people about plan b 's of otherness. however, they failed. and the 1st, the crisis when it comes to the energy, i mean, you look, you look at what happened and decent. and since february each and you look at the panic, you has. this will create a lot of doubts about the plan, b 's that you'll use to lecture the world about them and governance, and then how to manage the crisis. i think also this applies to the human rights

issue and how much they are actually. the author decisive and they are honest when it comes to this, not only actually human rights is one item. look at the energy transition. european . we used to lecture the world about energy transition and going to clean energy. however, when they felt the heat, they had to go to use the nuclear energy and then they stop and the activate the local u. k site. this is, this is a moral moral question. this crisis basically is raising a moral question about what the you used to lecture the word about and how much of the us and see it and how much they are actually fulfilling the commitments when it comes to human rights and defending the human rights. and actually trying to defend those who are oppressed, or dose or suffer. i think these are another round of, of, of assessments to all of this values that you and to make. and they used to settle

the people in that egypt all the preston and what's your take on that? i mean, critics will say that concerns about any concerns that germany would have about human rights in the gulf region would be put to one side. now, because of germany's energy needs, well, it's not as simple critical as it sounds, if the fundamental human rights violations, germany and the european union will stand up and call them fundamental human rights violations. what i think is beneficial, not only in this dialogue that we have seen in making sense, the start of the war in ukraine. but also what is happening before the world cup in car, in football, is that there's a growing attention to what is actually happening in societies in the region. and so far,

or you could read in the western media is they violate human rights and they waste energy. and now we got to much more different say, to picture and development. and so what's the role of women in countries like saudi arabia needs to be evaluated more clearly and more closely. it's not about lecturing, if the violations of human rights than those whose rights have been violated, should count on the european union that they stand up and call it this job. your response to that you shaking your head there i'm. i'm insisting electric. i'm electric because this is what was happening in the world was lecturing, but that about the human rights since the world cup was given to be organized here . but they are ignoring the fact that they supported germany to have the world cup when hitler was in polar and ignored. the fact that the city of business and palace

were built by immigrants and people who are still suffered because of illness and not 50000 people will die until 2050 big. not all of this. they are selective data lecturing. and they want the, when they want, when they want energy, they will put human rights aside. and i know personally that they have the tools to do so. they have the route to change to playing the game. sometimes the government come and speak, ministers can come, the president can come, how regardless was the still important and then big of it to the media and they say we are in free media. you me to handle everything. if the, if the media can hold them accountable, they will go to the civil society. they play different cards, but they are not honest. and they are like shutting the world about something they know that they should be a fair and look at the suffering of other people and, and just go down. and if i could bring it the issue of energy and germany's energy

needs back to this. i, jamie does plan to be carbon neutral by 2045, and i made that very clear. how does this, these deals now with the gulf countries affect their plans? look, let me also check only 1st of all i have to ask the status and analysis or whether that part this really is one as described. and i would, i would also challenge the notion of, of different times and regimes being similar to the, to the present situation and actually comparable. but coming back to the, the trimming question and, and where they go with their energy tradition. and i think that highs or a little bit into, into what my preview professor said about whether the germans and the europeans are high, critical, and when it comes to their energy transition, i don't think there actually is energy and the change of talk. what we're seeing at

the moment is, is very government and grew up trying to plug holes because of the, the russia situation and ukraine war. but at the same time, there is massive investments going on that that accelerate the energy transition re power you plan, put forward 290000000000 just for renewables. the germans are investing to and a 1000000000 in industrial disorganization. there are plans to essentially turn the north sea into green power plans, and we're talking about 100 gigawatts of, of capacity just by comparison. that's 75 nuclear power plant. so capacity. so what we're looking at here is essentially an energy transition on steroids. if you will, and driven by fruit in an aggressive war, not necessarily by climate policy, that's the irony of it. so what i'm thinking and if we connect the dots here, and if we do the numbers, we might actually get well ahead of our 202035 targets when it comes to renewables and the compensation. and i'm absolutely convinced that that the goal of the next

0 by 45 will be kept no matter what over at brighton. is it fair to say, you know, 67 months ago, left shot would, would not have been even considering a trip like this that, that the kind of did dirge needs of, of supplying, supplying germany energy needs is, is, is, is what drove him to do this i'm not so sure about it because what he said at the beginning of the term of the new coalition is that germany will be a different country at the end of the term. and, but the answers pointed out is that the boring ukraine is a boost for the transition to turn the german economy into forsythe free economy. and you need partners for this and it's not just a replacement of energy sources. it also comes with technology. so if germany as an

export based economy can export solutions that matter in other parts of the world that come as an incentive to compare the different interests, then it makes perfect sense to reach out for countries that for example, a very rich with sunshine and not a very far away, and you can think of giant pipeline projects to produce energy resources that would make sense in different the compost energy mixed in europe. job if we talk about the war in ukraine right now, where, where the middle east and countries, particularly gulf countries stand on, that they're having to kind of strike a balance here on they because of their ties with china and russia. i think it's obvious that goes to states a try trying to be balance under position because the end of the day this what is

happening in europe, however, that i'm, if occasion is getting to the capitals because the are no controlling $65.00 of energy was oil and gas and so basically they try to be balance because they have ties with the west. you're putting you, they have ties with china and they don't want to upset russia. it's obvious. and i think this kind of balance it's, it's really tough a process because, you know, you know, that you and the west and, and then i to state are, are, are the chairman to basically put russia and the pressure and the, i think the narrative from the gulf is very clear, we are trying to help to how to secure an energy to sources as part of our a global responsibility that has, that is, will put statements that you know, gulf a state is, is helping on securing energy to sources contributing to energy,

to sources to those societies who are suffering as a cause. it was and this, you know, i think there is a consistency on some state on this, especially when it comes to countries. i thought that they said, you know, we are helping those countries auto need and either and those countries they are want to buy our guys, we are ready to sell it, however they need to contribute to building infrastructure and etc. so i think it's very, it's very clear that attempt to have to have a clear balance in a very tough time. and that, and the problem is the nature of the crisis is still is not clear where it moves and whether it will be escalated or there will be more actually of this. and it will be, it would have more impact on energy security in the global, the whole yet let's get to and he says, take on this. well, what implications as is have been for global energy security as a whole. and well, the crisis, the sauce at the moment does

a couple of things for the global energy system. first of all, it put the strain on already very tight, l n g markets and those selling g markets in terms of supply to move sideways for the next one or 2 years. maybe 3 years until situations change again in the us and cuts are additional supplies. but there is also a big shift in oil because the europeans are in bar going russian oil. there is a g 7 embargo and rational, including a price cap and not all of that will be re delivered and, and redirected to other was region, which means you will take some off the market and that will probably have an impact on, on the market as well, we also have a similar situation with coal, coal guts, sanctioned by august this year, but the new russian coal that is and that also many markets got more tighter than

they were. not the one thing that it's important to see is that when we're talking about the gulf and europe at the moment, this in fact has an implication and an impact mainly on nano issa d countries in the global south that is southeast asia, africa, and elsewhere. because that's where people feel high prices the most. those are economies that are in part allergy in port dependence like pakistan, which is hardly hit by that s and, and other parts which are now priced out of the markets. or they have very high intensities in of their economy, which means the moment prices go north, those economists are, had hard. so the repercussions are mostly felt in places that a poor, not rich. all right, so we are going to have to leave it there, as, thanks very much to all 3 of you, all rich brightener in berlin. imagine wary in doha, and our andrea said got our joining us from berlin as well. thanks so much for

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