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here the damage, everything they eat almost everything, manly, the pin at the opera, them, and them everywhere on the ground. conservation is say, it's important to find sustainable ways to mitigate conflict between wild animals and people to grasp. one solution, according to michelle henley, who's been studying elephants for 25 years, is growing aromatic herbs, such as chilly or lemon grass. so if you plant does crops in abroad, barrier around your, your palatable crops that you want to use as a food source, that's another way to, to, to elephants and to get income. another is installing, hives these giant animals escape of bees. the debate will continue about how best to manage the growing numbers of these beautiful elephants. what isn't in dispute, though, is protecting these animals and preserving by diversity in the area. emily anglin, al jazeera kruger, national park, south africa. ah,
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this is al jazeera, these, your top stories, exit polls in italy say the right wing alliance, led by georgia, maloney is on cause for majority in parliament. the block which includes policies of mathias vini and silvio. berlusconi could win at least 43 percent of the vote, maloney could become, it's a nice female prime minister on the 1st far right need us and world war 2 decades later from rome. this is where it does look now that those predictions of 2 weeks ago that the right wing coalition would be winning by a large majority is coming to fruition. that means let's see, the exact numbers come tomorrow perhaps that they would probably hold a majority in both houses of parliament. it's been a day quite emotional for italians on different sides. you speak to those who support maloney, and this coalition feel that this is
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a day that's long time coming. a partial novelization order announced by president vladimir putin continues to spawn, protest across russia. this was the scene in douglas down in the more caucus where more than 100 people blocked a highway. police reportedly tried to break up the protest by firing warning shots . at another demonstration, people shout no to war and blame the russians. governments of south seems the conflict referendums are being held for 3rd day and for russian controlled areas of eastern ukraine. people in modern poll and the don't yet screech and cost that ballads the policy and organized by moscow back separatists. the thing is also taking place in the hugs. zach patricia and cast san supersonic, they noted has made land for the northern philippines as broad as heavy rain and wind up the 195 kilometers power. and is the strongest typhoon to hit the country,
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the canadian officials. they will take several months to restore critical infrastructure. the storm fiona hit, its east coast, leaving an unprecedented trail of destruction have been washed away and trees down . okay. they see headlines coming up next. the stream from the war in ukraine to the global energy crisis. and the impact of climate change, the need for international cooperation has never been more vital. as leaders from a 193 member states gathered that the united nations general assembly will we see any breakthroughs on al jazeera? good? i am for me. okay, on today's epicenter string, when looking ahead to the october, the 2nd elections in brazil, there are 12 presidential candidates, but we're going to be looking at the leading to present. i air both tomorrow and
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also louis and asio new la da silva. here they are debating on august the 29th through the shade. if the country i left is a country that the people mess it was a country of employment, it was a country where people had the rights to live with dignity, with their heads up. in this country will come back if you brave oprah, corp you thought there was corruption, president lula. you want to come back. what for you to keep doing? the same thing at petro battle rope? keep a little bit there for the workers party, the worse off the people are the poor, the better for them to do politics off those people if you so much so you have to very different candidates. now, what would you like to know about them on today? so we are going to be exploring key campaign issues and what's at stake for brazilians. you can do an i conversation right here in the comment section on youtube. ah,
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o i x y x or panel. hello, elona. i deanna cecilia. it's so lovely to have all 3 of you here. we are going to unpack the upcoming elections. what's at stake? what's going on in brazil right now in no, no welcome, please say hello to our audience around the world. thank your family. my name is elena zabel. i am the co founder president of they got to get to have you. i deanna welcome. please say hello to audience. thank you for having me. i me, i'm of the english market. my manager asked students for liberty, brazil that to happen as a senior, nice to senior, please say, as to see a to thank you so much for inviting me. i'm cecilia carnegie. i'm managing editor at americas quarterly. all right, very good. i am going to get you guess, to build a picture of what these 2 candidates are like. let's put up the candidate who's currently present at the moment. so see a tell me 2 things about almost an hour that would be helpful for i'm to natural audience to know. boston
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r o came in from left field even though his on the right. he just surprised everybody when he got elected. he is a long time politician who was in congress for almost 30 years as a french character who just exploded in 2018 as the leading candidate with a the scorsone, a rhetoric of supporting families. freedom which to him equates a right to have guns and against abortion, and for family and specially religion. all right. hello, did cecilia? any of you anything more to add to post now? so we get this instant picture of how he's campaigning. what is he's like? what did he style like you? cecilia, just put them in the right place, but i would say that these in a far life are right. candidates like very much like trump and the week there are been populous authoritarian leave. those that are trying to undermine democracy
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from within. and that's an important feature for this election because it's a, them, a, it's an election about democracy. we have. so it feels that we've got 2 polar opposites as leading candidates. let's have a look at louise in mass lead to silva, put his candidate caught up, and this time a known if you start with 2 things that would be helpful for us to know before we get deep into our conversation. to or so lula is pregnant that came from the people he had the to context of mandates and was responsible for a clue the most number the populations in let's say the lower and middle middle class. so he comes with a flag of we're going to be happy again. he left also with the corruption gambles. the processes that you are facing were notified by the justice system because they were not respecting the due process according to our supreme court. so he wants to
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come back to just try another another time to show what his par, to should do for the brazilian people see here. yeah, and this is sort of a playback this election should have been in 2018. so any 2018 hula was ahead. in the polls when he was arrested and taken to jail under the legation that, that a lot just mentioned. so he was taken out of that run right, a few months before the election. so now we're actually sort of re read the reliving of 2018 election. but guess lula has a banner of poverty fighting against poverty. he was a poor man himself. he came from a very, very poor family that migrated from the northeast almost on foot and had you know, very little education and sort of like pulled himself out from the bootstrap's and became a new union leader. very well known love to global that he is a relatively well spoken man. i mean,
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he really has the power of words and resonates with people. but so does both in are completely different narrative, but he's also incredibly powerful in his speech. i be on i'm wondering what the atmosphere is like in brazil right now, fema weeks to go before the elections. what is at stake for sale at this point in terms of social conditions, living conditions, what might be possible depending on what happens on october. the 2nd well actually we are facing a very polarized environment right now. we're dan. sions are like all over the place. actually, i just hope that whoever gets elected, we have a little more space to debate peacefully because i see maybe there, there is a, arise of violent speeches, etc. so i'm kind of worried that this may get worse depending on who gets
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elected. can you give me an example when you say there's a rise of violet speeches say you've got a better view of that than we have. what does that mean? what have you heard? basically on social media, i think ilana, will agree with me. that's something that we see every day actually on where people are attacking each other, you know, you know, very hostile wait, actually. and it seems like we can debate politics in the city more and i need you thought and then to so you pick, you pick out that that is a very important the so i think i hate speech. this information with information is not new, but it has been with us in the last election. but this to say that there is a different thing now, which is the rectory actually from the phone, but in terms of political violence that people should respond to any result which is not the result of he winnie with violence. take the gun that he allowed people
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to buy and then just and his speech protected democracy which, which of course, i would argue that it's against them all proceed, but that's, that's what that's take. i believe a part of the political violence, silica had it. yeah, i'm just going to add on andrea and actually throw you another question to, to, to a loaner because the we're, we're seeing just today in the news again, another person who was killed by another one by an political discussion and the man just killing each other that was another men celebrating his birthday party was killed because he had little a banners around his birthday party. so this trends, ladies, it's moving out of social media and we had this pushed for more guns on the streets . and that to me is the scariest part of the moment in my country is, is this push for more weapons? and the longer that's what i say because of the rise was what, like some 300 percent more guns in the hands of civilian since 2018. something like
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that. right? absolutely. so this is say, you know, i work for over 20 years in civil society when like with a non partisan independent organization. but we're here really facing tracks to are the more crack system was down abroad in terms of a lack of dialogue. we've had the closure up to the space in this country that was unprecedented since the dictatorship time. so water facing now is really the, the intent of not accepting their was the results of the election. and of course, society and institutions are pushing back against that. but we're having to restate every day our support for democracy to come through and my organization has been leading the gun control. i say initiative with another organization called the school to so the past 2 to be able to help out, let's say a evidence base dialogue or what it means to leave in a democrat state. or people have to like accept the rule of the law and cannot pick
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justice into their own, hence i to on and let me share with you some headlines that we picked out their international headlines. i some concerns from outside of brazil, on my laptop here prep, brazil's presidential campaign kicks off and made fears of violence. facebook i would, i matter is failing to prevent a repeat of january the 6th in brazil report warns than imminent election crisis in brazil are these over wrought with these accurate i think it's accurate actually, because like i said, we are facing a very polarized campaign. political campaign and, and since the beginning of the campaign i feel that things are getting a little bit worse in this sense. um, because like i told you before, you go social media and to see people at tech in each other. like, it seems like we are not able to more to talk as individuals will have to respect each other's views. and that something that really worries me because i like lona
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said, it's democracy who is at stake. so it's important to us to learn how to talk to each other again with respect and peacefully. let's talk about 2 issues that are impacting voters. and sometimes what some the campaign child is not what really is needed for the country. i'm wondering if there's a disconnect there, but for you to see what is one of the most critical issues that will be important when people go to vote and they make that decision hunger. i think for, you know, if you have 33000000 people hungry and a country it's, you know, when he gets to the vote, it's one vote one person. it doesn't matter what your bank account is like. so right now we do have several cohorts of society that support one or the other, but a large one that they are hungry, they need food on the table. so i think that for a very large bit of the population, ah, because the 33000000 that are going hungry,
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then you can add easily several other 1000000 people who are just scraping by. so once you have this scenario, i think that's what it's going to count the most at the moment of voting. i would agree or just that the cost of living in general has increased m. busy as in many other parts of the world, but brazil faces an economic crisis. people are like with difficulty the pain, they're b o. so unemployment. i also see people worried about health and education. so the public goods provision and of course so violence. acute is always also in the order of the day, so it's a jobs economics and public goods election. what about indigenous vote is because often may all pushed out of the thinking of what, where is brazil going next? something that luna is always been thinking about, but both sonora has changed that trend in the last few years.
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climate save me amazon. who is that important to the vote is that's the venture. very interesting question. i guess i asked myself like, you know, you see the world looking at the brazil and thinking of brazil as, as, as a big amazon and to the issues there. but you go into the amazon and you see a population that needs jobs and who is employing them, who's giving them jobs, illegal loggers, illegal miners, and people who wore pushing deforestation. so these are jobs and you know, the larger groups that are behind this push are not the ones actually doing the cutting of the trees. so you have a real issue that we're both in our support in the north despite his a b. let's say a weird environmental a policies it's, it's very strong because these are their jobs. so i think that there is a great disconnect there. but if i may say, so given the indigenous,
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i think that one thing that happened since 2018 is that the indigenous groups got a lot more voice and guts and are getting a lot stronger. so i think if there is any benefit to the old is the, you know, insanity that it's happening on their situation. it's that even though it's the because it got worse to them, i think they got more of a voice and they're getting heard more and more active and more organized. even, you know, indigenous women are organizing and several other groups. so i think that there is strength in numbers and they are still need support from the outside, but i think they are getting stronger. let me just now weekly. sure. um yeah, i think i should have us. no, i think this is a very important issue because it, on the one hand cecilia sulkily right to say they got more voice and they're coming bigger numbers. i think it's the highest number started recording the number of candidates that self declare indigenous. but it's also because they are under threat your toward the territory or under threat. so they feel they need to
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mobilize politically. so you see a pushback and it's a, it's a good the pushback in representation and we hope, you know, many of them get elected. i want to just play a little bite from luna to silva talking about the indigenous people for sale on why they are important to him and also to pursue. of course, as having listen, this country cannot continue to be governed by someone who doesn't like indigenous people who doesn't like black people, who doesn't like women who doesn't like union leaders, who doesn't like the amazon, who doesn't like serrato catania. the amazon rain forest who doesn't like it's people so we wouldn't be completely about talk about election without talking about misinformation. was the information out there. i think that that's now typical for every election that has any digital input i do on or what's been on your what's that messages recently on one sec. yeah, actually i know there's a lot of fake news. we have a lot of groups today,
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so you can go around, you know, and what is dangerous about it is that information spreads really quickly. so i get something like, i don't know at 4 o'clock in than 430, everybody knows the same thing. and sometimes it's a misleading information that i have to attack about ask what kind of misleading information, because then we've said it on al jazeera, but give me an idea of saying that it's obviously so ludicrous that everybody is not going to believe it. um, basically formation about the 2 candidate leading candidates, both nato and lula, and a misleading formation about both of them. that's what i see them alls actually, like, like i said before, it seems like people can talk. i'm, i'm on a peaceful level. so they have to attack each other and most of the time using lice to do it. so, oh, i don't actually know how we're going to to when to fight this,
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because everybody is free to share whatever they want. but, but it's not, it's a problem. we are facing right now because many people don't go after information to try to find the truth before themselves. and they believe the 1st thing they see . yes, this thing. no, no, go along as i was just company, that is one of the scariest thing. yeah, and i'll say one of the most of the mental one is the ones that the into question, our electoral voting system, which is a very modern 11 that elected including a current president. and you know that he and his group a tried the whole time to discredit the system, saying there is a secret room that would control and the fraud brazil's elections. and i think this is a very, very dangerous message, as unfortunately when we've seen the poles, the presence 2 quarters do believe that the election sir can be for other than the
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war fraud, even if he was elected. yeah, i yeah. he said that he wanted the 1st round, he didn't lose, he didn't win and 2nd, right? not one example actually of the, you know, big run even if i don't when the election has been stolen. absolutely. let me, i, this is, it's so interesting and you know, we spoke to maria, who is the director of human rights watch in brazil. and this is what she told us. it's almost a warning for what may happen post october. the 2nd it's have a look present both sonata who's running for reelection has sought to, in their mind trust in the electoral system, a lansing without providing any proof that it isn't reliable. in addition to be attacking the independent media attacking the judiciary, there had been no proof in cases of fraud in brazil fees. we adopted the electronic electoral system more than 20 years ago. it's crucial that the international community act in their way that support free and fair elections in brazil,
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and then the clear cut method to wilson that, that an attempt to not respect then we will proceed and voters will not be tolerated. so that's an issue that we don't know if it's gonna happen yet. there's some concern, but we don't know quite yet. i want to give our viewers watching this, or a little snippet of boston arrow to see his confidence at this stage in the campaign. and then i'm gonna open up our conversation. we have so many questions for you guess on youtube. we're going to do a speed around and see how many of them we can outset and address. but 1st his pastor, boston, our it is good this. we know that we have a fight between good and evil ahead of us. the evil that lasted for 14 years in our country that almost broke our homeland are done now wants to come back to the crime scene. they won't. the people are by our side. the people are on the good side, the people know what they want. oh, all right,
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so let's go to youtube. we got so many questions and comments. renato, for instance, says president most narrow refuse to buy pfizer vaccines. there were so many avoidable deaf c also not people dying without breath. it's clearly a death for our democracy. that is when our toes perspective, but it's interesting that for this home 20 minutes or so, nobody mentioned cover it alone or why? well, i would say because we're dealing with the threat of the day, but that was a huge issue in brazil, several 100 people almost dad. there is a research that shows that 4 out of 5 of these that could be preventable if the government had acted. the president was denied himself as a denial for climate change, for instance. but he was against masks. he was against buying rights, him like vaccines. so our governors actually did a great job and provide
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a motivation as brazil has like a very high records of immunizing our population. but as far as the now the on to back to the movement also real in the come through. so that was absolutely failure . and a lot of like a suffering that should be prevented. all right. now you mentioned this earlier on how to revise it. resilience right now, how youtube comments a completely divided as well. edwardo new ella was the biggest thief in our country . mo, bosa narrow is i want to be trump. what do we get out of that situation? if we've got one group saying your candidate is wrong, another group saying your candidate is well, who suffers or who benefits? arianna? and i think who suffers the most is democracy itself because like i said, i democracy is a to democracy to be strengthened. we need a scenario where people can dialogue,
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you know, and that's what i'm, i'm not seeing happening. so this is my main concern about the elections and as you can see, we are facing a very paralyzed scenario. so, so i is just like a little microcosm of what is happening. i'm sure in brazil, i've got this really interesting comment here to see that i'd love to unpack it and, and maybe add to it if you can. the brazilian people one most narrow, but the lease one lula. that's one person's take. can you? yeah, it's interesting. it's so interesting that you know, and then if you ask that will be someone else would say the opposite. really, zachary, already both and around the lives that, that's the, we got the to the situation where it's not an election of which policy we want. it's an election of which, which met the which idol we have. so it's really a right now. we're having this dispute of like mike and it is better than yours.
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and this is the good versus evil. i'm election in not an election on issues and what brazil needs coming forward. and i don't know how we get out of this, but this comment just paints. to me brings a exactly, this idea that some people will say what he said, right? the rich and the port, the, you know, a seminar commentary would assume you're interested in head, but it's neither. you have supporters for both in both areas. you have, you know, real elite supporting both scenario and you have real, you know, india have the poor electing a supporting lula as well. so it's, it's, that's definitely not the issue. but if you get, you know, a comment from one side or the other that you are going to get this is, you know, this think that it's just like we are in a stalemate, right now. we're not discussing issues. we're discussing who i like and who i don't to see that that is such a way to getting to pedro's question. we've only got
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a minute to answer it, but they do it very quick quickly. if you can patch, i want to know what are the main points and plans of each government, a lula government and a continued bo scenario. government isn't really clear to the voters that they got different plans. i think in the public debate, it's less clear. i think when you read the programs, you see that that one candidates both are not or is, is moral the same in terms of what he planned to do before, but he didn't deliver onto corruption. but there are many corruption scandals in his government that the most secretive governments, since the faith are shipping brazil don't know much. i think many things will come later. he also promotes the liberal economy but didn't believer that he broke on that the liberals wanted the either in brazil. so lola comes back with the, let's include people. let's also put amazon back at the amazon forest back into the, you know, priority was over the country. let's have a education and health as a priority for, for all. so i think it's a more inclusive set of proposals,
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but i wanted to say that that was to see a mention. we don't have enough theater. it looked at him that you know, at the very end of the shows that i'm glad that you are able to say that very briefly. and that i have time to say thank you and lona: adiana, cecilia, i don't of your excellent questions on ye cheap. i feel i got a little bit of the election bonds right here in the comment section. and so watching i see you next time. take everybody ah ah. and a to lead your country up to the pitch is a special moment for any footballer to do it as a palestinian woman is
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