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in recent times, it does cause deep shocking concern across society that doesn't it of course, any shooting after school is or is or is a is a cause of deep concern for, for it is and for families and for the nation in general. we have seen bout in the u. s. in many other countries, but russians here are saying that this is not a frequent, incidental russia. and most of the time, i mean, it's difficult to establish the motives behind it. this man has killed himself. nobody knows whether he really realised what he wanted, what, why did he do this? you know, it was his purpose just to kill 5 or 6 children and a guard of the school. so it's, it's very difficult to link it also to a, any terrorism motivation or anything else. so it's very early, it's very early to have the, the course. okay, for now, mohammed fall in moscow. thank you for the
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this is al jazeera and these are the top stories. now at least 6 people have been shot in a school in the russian at city of jobs. and it's 20 more have been hurt for the pound has fallen to a record low against the us dollar. following fridays announcement of major tax cuts by the u. k. government, it lost 5 percent of its value. was markets opened in asia. on monday, the bach reports from the london stock exchange, economists and politicians from the opposition most certainly do regard this as a, as a gamble. and if, if the figures that we're seeing out of the asian markets ready to go by, we're expecting another extremely turbulent day here in london when it comes to the currency markets overnight the pound against the dollar fell to $1.03. that's an extreme below the lowest in over 37 years. sincerely 19 eighties. i can see that that it stabilize at around $1.00 again,
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the dollar at the moment so it is going up slightly. but all of this, of course means that the prospect of piracy between the dollar and the pound grows ever closer. italy appears on calls for its 1st far right prime minister since world war 2. right when coalition lead by george maloney is projected to take most seats in parliament making had the most likely candidate to lead the country. at least 5 people have died in the philippines. after typhoon north hit its northern regions, causing widespread flooding. thousands of people have fled their homes and power is out in large parts of the country. group of right wing israeli ultra nationalist has entered the alex mosque companion, occupied east jerusalem. it comes on the 1st full day of the jewish new year celebrations. they are accompanied by his very security forces who beat 3 muslim worshippers. 5 others were arrested. the site has been the frequent flash point between palestinian muslims and israeli jews. boats are being counted in cuba after
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a landmark referendum that could legalize same sex marriages and adoption. the proposals would allow saga to pregnancies and give more rights to non biological parents. there's other headline, sneezed, continues herron al jazeera, that's after talk to algebra. bosnia and herzegovina is going to the polls amid the dispute over election reforms that would enable people to vote along ethnic lines at all levels of government rights. up to the presidents. i suppose me and serves challenge state institutions in their escalating bids for succession and cross warn of the consequences to vote this hold on to the current law. what does the future hold for this fragile democracy? bosnia elections on a j 0? did i anthony ok on today's upset and string when looking ahead to the october the 2nd
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elections in brazil, there are 12 presidential candidates, but we're going to be looking at the leading to present. i am most narrow and also newest in moscow. a new la da silva here they are debating on august the 29th through the shade. and by if the country i left is a country that the people mess it was a country of employment. it was a country where people had the rights to live with dignity, with their heads up in this country will come back if you paper copies. so there was corruption, president lula. you want to come back. what for you to keep doing the same thing. and petro, battle rife, keep a little bit there for the workers party, the worse off the people are the poor, the better for them to do politics off those people, if you so much of. so you have to very different candidates. now what would you like to know about them on today's show? we are going to be exploring key campaign issues and what's at stake? the brazilians, you can do in a conversation right here in the comment section on you tube.
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ah, oh, expert expert panel, hello. lona, i be honest to see is so lovely to have all 3 of you here. we are going to unpack the upcoming elections. what's that state? what's going on in brazil right now in know, welcome, please say hello to our audience around the world. thank your family. my name is alina zabel, i'm the co founder, president of they got are easy to get to have you. i deanna welcome, please say hello to audience. thank you for having me. i me, i'm of the english market. my manager asked students for liberty, brazil that to happen. and cecilia, nice to see you, please say hello mazda c a to thank you so much for inviting me. i'm cecilia. throw naggie. i'm managing editor at americas quarterly. all right, very good. i am going to get you guess, to build a picture of what these 2 candidates are like. let's put up the candidate he's
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currently present at the moment. cecilia, tell me 2 things about post now or that will be helpful for international audience to know. both narrow came and from left field, even though his on the right. he just surprised everybody when he got elected. he is a long time politician who was in congress for almost 30 years as a french character who just exploded in 2018 as the leading candidate with they got the scorsone, a rhetoric of supporting families, freedom which to ham, equates a right to have guns and against abortion, and for family and specially religion. all right, and it did, cecilia, any of you anything more to add to post now so we get this instant picture of how he's campaigning. what is he's like? what did he style like you? cecilia just put them in the right place, but i would say that these in a far life are right. candidates like very much like trump and the week there are
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been populous, authoritarian leaders that are trying to undermine democracy from within. and that's an important feature for this election because it to them, it's an election about democracy. we have so it feels that we've got to polar opposites as leading candidates. let's have a look at louise in astro new lead to silva. put his candidate caught up and this time a known if you start with 2 things that would be helpful for us to know before we get deep into our conversation to or so lula is pregnant. that came from the people he had the to context of mandates and was responsible for include the most number, the populations in, let's say the lower and middle middle class. so he comes with a flag of we're going to be happy again. he left also with the corruption gambles. the processes that you are facing were notified by the justice system because they
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were not respecting the due process according to our supreme court. so he wants to come back to just try another another time to show what his par, to should do for the brazilian people see here that yeah, and this is sort of a playback this election should have been in 2018. so any 2018 hula was ahead in the polls when he was arrested and taken to jail under the legation that that they learned just mentioned. so he was taken out of that run right, a few months before the election. so now we're actually sort of re read the reliving a 2018 election. but guess lula has a banner of poverty fighting against poverty. he was a poor man himself. he came from a very, very poor family that migrated from the northeast almost on foot and had, you know, very little education and sort of like pulled himself out from the bootstrap's and
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became a new union leader. very well known love to global. he's a relatively well spoken man. i mean, he really has the power of words and resonates with people. but so does sonora in a completely different narrative? but he's also incredibly powerful in his speech. i be on, i'm wondering what the atmosphere is like in brazil, right? now fema weeks to go before the elections. what is at stake for sale at this point in terms of social conditions, living conditions, what might be possible depending on what happens on october? the 2nd well actually we are facing a very polarized environment right now where dan sions are alike all over the place. actually, i just hope that whoever gets selected, we have a little more space to debate peacefully because i see maybe there, there is a,
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arise of violent speeches, etc. so i'm kind of worried that this may get worse depending on who gets elected. can you give me an example when you say there's a rise of violet speech or say you've got a better view of that than we have? what does that mean? what have you had basically on social media. i think elena will agree with me that something that we see every day actually on where people are attacking each other, you know, you know, very hostile wait, actually. and it seems like we can debate politics in the city more. i need you start. and then cecilia, you pick out of that because i know that these are the very important the so i think, you know, i hate speech. this information is information is not new, but it has been with us in the last elections. but just to say that there is
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a different thing now, which is the rhetoric, especially from being grown, but in terms of political violence that people should respond to a new result, which is not the result of he winnie with violence. take the guns that he allowed people to buy and then just in his speech, protect democracy, which is which of course so i would argue that it's against them all proceed, but that's, that's what is at stake. i believe a political violence. silica head. yeah, i was just going to add another over address actually throw you another question to, to a loaner because via we're, we're seeing just a day in the news. again, another person who was killed by another one by an a political discussion. and the man just, you know, killing each other, that was another men celebrating his birthday party was killed because he had lula banners around his birthday party. so this is trans ladies, it's moving out of social media. and we had this push for more guns on the streets, and that to me is those scariest part of this moment in, in my country,
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is this push for more weapons and elona? that's what i would say because of the rise was what, like some 300 percent more guns in the hands of civilians since 2018. something like that. right? i'm absolutely. cecilia. so this to say, you know, i work for over 20 years in civil society and like with a non partisan independent organization. but we're here really facing tracks. sure . the more graphic system watha down abroad in terms of a lack of dialogue. we had the closure of facing this country that was unprecedented since the dictatorship time. so what they're facing now is really the, the intent of not accepting their was the results of the election. and of course, society and institutions are pushing back against that. but we're having to restate every day our support for democracy, the crown through and my organization has been leading the gun control. i say initiative with another organization called the school to so the past 2 to be able
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to have art, let's say, a evidence base dialogue of what it means to leave in a democrat state. or people have to like accept the rule of the law and cannot pick justice into their own hands. i to on and let me share with you some headlines that we picked out their international headlines. i some concerns from outside of brazil, on my laptop here, brazil's presidential campaign kicks off and made fears of violence. facebook i would, i matter is failing to prevent repaint of january the 6th in brazil report warns than imminent election crisis in brazil are these over wrought with these accurate i think it's accurate actually, because like i said, we are facing a very polarized campaign, political campaign and, and since the beginning of the campaign, i feel that things are getting a little bit worse in this sense. um, because like i told you before,
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you go social media in to see people that can each other. like, it seems like we are not able to more to talk as individuals will have to respect each other's views. and that's something that really worries me because i liked elona said it's democracy who is at stake. so it's important to us to learn how to talk to each other again with respect and peacefully. let's talk about issues that are impacting voters. and sometimes what from the campaign child is not what really is needed for the country. i'm wondering if there's a disconnect there, but for you to see that what is one of the most critical issues that will be important when people go to vote and they make that decision hunger. i think for, you know, if you have 33000000 people hungry and a country it's, you know, when he gets to the vote, it's one vote one person. it doesn't matter what your bank account is like. so right now we do have several cohorts of society that support one or the other, but
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a large one that they are hungry, they need food on the table. so i think that for a very large bit of the population, because the 33000000 that are going hungry, then you can add easily several other 1000000 people who are just scraping by. so once you have this scenario, i think that's what it's going to count the most at the moment of voting. i would agree, i just said the cost of living in general has increased the many as in many other parts of the world. but brazil faces an economic crisis. people are like with difficulty the pain, they're b o. so unemployment. i also see people worried about health and education. so the public goods provision and of course so violence, acute is always also in the order of the day. so it's a, it's a jobs economics and public goods election. what about indigenous vote is because often may all pushed out of the thinking of what,
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where is brazil going next? something that luna is always been thinking about, but both sonora has changed that trend in the last few years. climate save me amazon. who is that important to the voters? that's, that's very interesting question i cuz i asked myself like, you know, eve, see the world looking at the brazil and thinking of brazil as, as, as a big amazon and to the issues there. but you go into the amazon and you see a population that needs jobs and who is employing them, who is giving them jobs, illegal loggers, illegal miners, and people who are pushing deforestation. so these are jobs and you know, the larger groups that are behind this push are not the ones actually doing, but cutting out the trees. so you have a real issue that both scenarios support in a north despite his a b, let's say
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a weird environmental a policies it's, it's very strong because these are their jobs. so i think that there is a great disconnect there. but if i may say, so given the indigenous, i think that one thing that happened since 2018 is that the indigenous groups got a lot more voice and guts and are getting a lot stronger. so i think if there is any benefit to the old is the, you know, insanity that it's happening on their situation. it's that even though it, the, because it got worse to them. i think they got more of a voice and they're getting heard more and more active and more organized even, you know, indigenous women are organizing and several other groups. so i think that there is strength in numbers and they are still need support from the outside. but i think they are getting stronger. let me just now keep sure. um yeah, i think i should have us. no, i think that was a very important issue because it on the one hand cecilia thoughtfully. right, to say they got more voice and they're coming bigger numbers. i think it's the
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highest number since we started recording the number of candidates that self declare indigenous. but it's also because they are under threat your toward the territory or under threat. so they feel they need to mobilize politically. so you see a pushback and it's a, it's a good the pushback in representation and we hope you know, many of them got elected. i want to just play a little bite from luna to silva talking about the indigenous people of brazil on why they are important to him and also to brazil. of course, that's how to listen. this country cannot continue to be governed by someone who doesn't like indigenous people who doesn't like black people who doesn't like women who doesn't like union leaders who doesn't like the amazon who doesn't like serrato catania. the amazon rain forest who doesn't like it's people. so we wouldn't be completely about talk about election without talking about misinformation. was the information out there. i think that that's now typical for every election that
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has any digital input adiana. what's been on your what's that messages recently on one sec? yeah, actually i know there's a lot of fake news. we have a lot of groups today so you can go around, you know, and what is dangerous about it is that information spreads really quickly. so i get something like, i don't know, at 4 o'clock in than 430, everybody knows the same thing. and sometimes it's a misleading information that i will talk about. ask will, what kind of misleading information. because then we've said it on al jazeera, but give me an idea of saying that it's obviously so ludicrous that everybody is not going to believe it. um, basically formation about the 2 candidates leading candidates, both on i don't and lula and misleading formation about both of them. that's what i see the most. actually like, like i said before, it seems like people can talk i'm,
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i'm on a peaceful level. so they have to attack each other and most of the time using lice to do it. so, oh, i don't actually know how gonna to when to fight this because everybody is free to share whatever they want. but, but it's a, it's a problem we're facing right now because many people don't go after information to try to find the truthful for themselves. and they believe the 1st thing they see. yes, this no, no, go along as i was just company, that is one of the scariest thing. yeah, and i would say one of the most of the mental one is the ones that support the into question, our electoral voting system, which is a very modern $11.00 that elected including a current president and did all that he and his group a tried the whole time to discredit the system, saying there is a secret room that would control and the fraud brazil elections. and i think this
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is a very, very dangerous message, because unfortunately it, when we see the poles, the presence, 2 quarters do believe that the election sir, can be further than that war fraud. even if he was elected. yeah, i yeah. he said that he wanted a 1st round, he didn't lose, he didn't win and 2nd, right for them. right? not one example actually of you know, yes it run you if i don't when the election has been stolen? absolutely. let me, i this is, it's so interesting area. we spoke to maria, who is the director of human rights watch in brazil, and this is what she told us. it's almost a warning for what may happen post october. the 2nd, let's have a look president wilson that who is running for reelection has sought to in their mind trust in the electoral system, a lansing without providing any proof that it isn't reliable. in addition to be attacking the independent media at taking the judiciary, there had been no proof in cases of fraud in brazil feast we adopted the electronic
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electoral system more than 20 years ago. it's crucial that the international community act in their way that support free and fair elections in brazil. and then the clear cut method to wilson that, that an attempt to not respect that we will, of brazilian voters, will not be tolerated. so that's an issue that we don't know if it's gonna happen yet. there's some concern, but we don't know quite yet. i want to give our viewers watching this a little snippet of boston arrow to see his confidence at this stage in the campaign. and then i'm gonna open up our conversation. we have so many questions for you guess on youtube. we're going to do a speed around and see how many of them we can answer and address. but 1st his pastor boss an hour. it said it is good. good, good. we know that we have a fight between good and evil ahead of us. the evil that lasted for 14 years in our country that almost broke our homeland about now wants to come back to the crime
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scene. they won't. the people are by our side, the people are on the good side, the people know what they want. oh, all right, so let's go to youtube. i got so many questions and comments. renato, for instance, says president boston aro, refuse to buy pfizer vaccines. there were so many avoidable deaf c also not people dying without breath. it's clearly a death for our democracy. that is when our toes perspective, but it's interesting that for this home 20 minutes or so, nobody mentioned cover it alone or why? well, i would say because we're dealing with the threat of the day, but that was a huge issue in brazil, several 100 people, almost dad, there's a receipt that shows that 4 out of 5 of these that could be preventable if the government had acted the president was denied himself as
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a denial for climate change, for instance, but he was against masks. he was against buying rights, him like vaccines. so our governors actually did a great job and provide a motivation as brazil has like a very high records organizing our population. but as far as the now the on to back to the movement also real in the come through. so that was absolutely failure and a lot of like a suffering that should be prevented. all right, i think you mentioned this early on how divided resilience right now. how youtube comments? a completely divided as well. edwardo new ella was the biggest thief in our country, mo, most an hour is i want to be trump. what do we get out of that situation? if we've got one group saying your candidate is wrong, another group saying your candidate is well, who suffers or who benefits? arianna? and i think who suffers the most, is this the marsey itself?
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because like i said, i democracy is to democracy, to be strengthened. we need a scenario where people can dialogue, you know, and that's what i'm, i'm not seeing happening. so this is my main concern about the elections. and as you can see, we are facing a very paralyzed scenario. so, so i, this is like a little microcosm of what is happening. i'm show in brazil, i've got this really interesting comment here to see. i'd love you to unpack it and maybe add to it if you can. the brazilian people want most narrow, but the lease one lula. that's one person's take. can you? yeah, it's interesting. it's so interesting that you know, and then if you ask that will be someone else who would say the opposite. really, zachary, already both in our lives. i, that's the, we got the to the situation where it's not an election of which policy we want.
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it's an election of which, which met the, which i don't we have. so it's really a right now. we're having this dispute of like mike and it is better than yours. and this is the good versus evil. i election in not an election on issues and what brazil needs coming forward. and i don't know how we get out of this, but this comment just paints. to me brings a exactly, this idea that some people will say what he said, right? the rich and the port, the, you know, a seminar commentary would just interested heads. but it's neither. you have supporters for both in both areas. you have, you know, real elite, supporting both an arrow and you have real, you know, india have the poor electing a supporting lula as well. so it's, it's, that's definitely not the issue. but if you get, you know, a comment from one side or the other, the, you, you are going to get this is, you know, this think that is just like we are in a stalemate,
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right now. we're not discussing issues. we're discussing who i like and who i don't to say that that is such a good way to getting to pedro's question. we've only got a minute to answer it, but they do it very quick quickly. if you can patch, i want to know what are the main points and plans of each government. a lula government and a continued bo scenario government? is it really clear to the voters that they've got different plans? i think in the public debate, it's less clear. i think when you read the programs, you see that that one candidates both are not or is, is moral the same in terms of what he planned to do before, but he didn't deliver on to corruption. but there are many corruption scandals in his government that the most secretive governments, since the faith or shipping brazil don't know much, i think many things will come later. he also promotes the liberal economy but didn't believer that he broke on that the liberals wanted the either in brazil. so lola comes back with the, let's include people. let's also put amazon back at the amazon forest back into the,
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you know, priority was over the country. let's have a education and health as a priority for, for all. so i think it's a more inclusive set of proposals, but i wanted to say that that was to see a mention. we don't have enough patch that looked at in that. yeah, we're at the very end of the shows that i'm glad that you are able to say that very briefly. and that i have time to say thank you and lona: adiana, cecilia, i don't of your excellent questions on you cheap. i feel i got a little bit of the election bonds right here in the comments section. and so watching i see you next time. take everybody ah new yes, new lessons and murals. this is the time when you get to choose. your english teacher is for the next 2 years meet the teacher is empowering their students. my tech and my course are all about intrigues. we're going to be looking at
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