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says deploying military to an a g and sea island reaches an agreement. athens argues it's protecting its people that can this tension be contained or could it spiral out of control? this is inside store. ah hello, welcome to the program and has them seek at greece and turkey have been in conflict over maritime borders and energy exploration rides for decades. in the latest escalation, ankara has accused athens of deploying us armored vehicles on to a g and islands close to turkeys. coast track security source is released. these ariel images, purportedly showing ships loaded with the vehicles docking on the islands of less boss and samus. turkey summoned the greek ambassador and father protest with the u

. s. over the action. greece has called the move, quote, completely unfounded, and accused turkey of aggressive behavior to nations, our nato allies, but historic foes, and continued to accuse each other undermining regional peace and stability. this is the other, so i said it while we a may king sincere if it stay in was crises and tensions in the world. we follow the political actions of our neighbor, grief which stink of provocation. as i have always said, greece is not our interlocutor, nor can it be politically, militarily, or economically honest. we are well aware that the real intentions of those who provoked and unleashed greek politicians against us are to hinder our program of building up a great and powerful turkey. yes, yes it, we have a difference regarding the limitation of maritime zones. there are ways to resolve these differences. you could even resort to an international court if you agree on

the conditions to, to reach such a settlement. but you don't resolve your differences through aggressive, fostering and through, you know, recalling sort of imperial fantasies and sort of using a rhetoric that is inflammatory. let's take a closer look at these islands last year. turkey disputed greece is sovereignty over the east g and islands. it says they were meant to stay strictly demilitarized greece took control of them from the ottoman empire during the balkan was from 1912 to 191310 years later, athens was officially awarded sovereignty in the treaty of laws in another treaty drawn up earlier though, in london, in 1914 has made greek possession of the islands, conditional on them being demilitarized. the turkey says, since the laws and treaty makes reference to the 1914 treaty, it implies the same conditions remain valid. but greece rejects that interpretation

. ah, let's bring in august now in assemble. we have mimic chillik, editorial coordinator, a daily daily english language newspaper in turkey, in athens. george, a couple us senior research fellow at the hellenic foundation for european and foreign policy and johnny from brussels. pizza clip editor of brussels report. you good to have you with us. so ga, ga, please let me start with you. then in turkey is arguing that these military build ups on the island are in violation of their agreed non military status. under international treaties, did have a point there. well, in the last weeks, greece is under constant threats by 30, with the use of military force waste. the argument that the islands should not be

military ice, but greece believes that due to the current situation, a threat is under threat by turkey. and therefore, it, these, it's rides to militarize island in line with the relevant un charter. this is the situation and the real problem starts from the threats coming from the other side. and also from the history that demonstrates the 13th prepared to use military force in order to obtain political against us, the invasion of cyprus, highlands are, let's put that point into memory, shall, again, is temple. what's your perspective on this? the grease is saying that it needs to defend these islands, many of which lie close to turkey's coast, against a potential attack from turkey. actually, if you look at the recent provocation by agrees against 2 year, we can see that, you know, if you know, with the radar blocking,

using this 3 hundreds with firing greek postcard firing against the commercial vessel with, with military using the, the non military status islands we can see that this provocation are unfortunately, actually coming and arising and emerging from the, from the other side of the g and, and athens. now turkey has been on the side that has been pushing forward for dialogue for, you know, be it to diplomatic negotiations or in the g and took between turkey and greece, or when it comes to the cyprus issue. turkey has been pushing forward for equitable share of resources in the eastern mediterranean turkey has been arguing for a dialogue and diplomacy. but you know, we can see one on the one side leaders. greek leaders like me to talk to, for example, says turkey would. they want a neighborly relations,

but on the other side, we see on the same days that greek as military housing or sending and deployment to the non military status island. so there is a hypocritical situation. of course, there has been, you know, historical patients between these 2 countries. if we can, if we are going to keep talking about the history, there is not that you know, turkey and greece, they cannot get anywhere. however, turkey has been pushing forward for dialogue for negotiations. for putting our differences and agreeing on some of the disagreements and moving forward, you know, in finding some sort of common ground to solve and overcome some of this, some of these issues. however, one greek side can change between, you know, you can, it's position changes a day and night and it's very unpredictable. and at times, hypocritical, so it becomes a problem for turkey. and it's real leadership to deal with greek officials

. so they see that these be in provocations and not a willingness to actually find the solution for the existing. be historical tensions or beat current and disagreements and tensions between the 2 side. peter clip. why are these islands in particular, such a flash point for both greece and turkey? all these islands are very close to the coast of turkey. and yeah, because of this reason circus concerns 30 claims that the was on 3 t does not allow greece to, to have these military vehicles. is american military vehicles to be, to be posted there? as we could hear, greece is claiming that it is under trucks from turkey and therefore it is justified its due. so what is remarkable is that just

recently the president of 13, mr. aragon did no not just complain about militarization of the islands but of quote unquote occupation of the islands. and this has really raised great concerns in greece and, and of course also outside of greece because these were to nato partners. and this is not exactly the best moment to have the entrance between greece and turkey. i think as everybody realizes at ga, ga, plus, the turkish government has said that this is the, this decision is partly political by greece to, to, to, to get these more of these military vehicles in, into the islands. there's a greek election coming up next, next summer. how much of this is for politic for domestic consumption? whether this is not a political decision, does security decision?

there are di, chronic problems in greek. derek is relations, but in the last year there is poverty credit. doherty has been very, very aggressive reserves. greece an issue which not only recognized by myself or the greek government or grateful editions, but by washington, endorsed by the european union has been very political of thirties, moves jester statements and public rhetoric. dorks griefs against cyprus in they submitted any i'm in general. and what your, what is right now, just to ration is that the relationship between 30 in the united states has and 3rd, and started waters. it is crystal clear in washington that derek is not necessarily considered reliable partner. and we've been dis, context. gleese is emerging as a very reliable partner of the united states. so these new situation is creating

new dynamics in the eastern mediterranean and doors within lego at dollars. so in the aftermath of the russian invasion of ukraine, the united states is closely working with reliable partners. so these is, you will link the aggressive rhetoric from the other side and will remain whole in the european union just within nato. that issue to asian could be placed under control because like the see 30 continues likely. obviously, the cohesion of nate are selfish and black will be g o. r dies news that will be welcomed in nostrils. yeah. amendment show like how, how is this affecting relations with, with the united states then, considering that they are, both of these countries are nato allies, as well. while of course, you know, if we look at, you know, the current stage of turkey you, us relation. we can,

we can say that it is not on a very solid ground at the moment. however, they are, they both sides continue to mention each other and they turn each other as allies, sometimes strategic allies, sometimes partners. now there is always that historical alliance between turkey and united states for, for several good reasons. however, if we look at the previous speaker mention about moscow and that you and all the ukraine relations or ukraine development, if you look at turkey's value for the west, i think green deal is a very good example for that. if we look at the mediation between ukraine and russia and its value for the, for the ukrainians, and also for the west. i think prisoner exchanges a very good deal. very good example of that. another one would be the reference by turkey, that has been, you know, at work to, to bring the 2 liter together at a negotiation table. otherwise, you know, the war is not alternately,

is not getting anywhere where we would wanted to end or find a solution for when it comes to. you know, the u. s. took your back to back to us turkey relations. and us, you know, very recently said that they wanted to, to partners to diplomatically to, to nato members, to diplomatic. the overcome these attention however, that turkish side has always been pushing forward. this diplomacy, this negotiation table, this finding a common ground for dialogue. however, at one day we agree saying ok the next day unfortunately, gree goes and complains to you or goes in in the united states and talk against turkey. for example, mitchell talk is the mr. mitchell talk, is it the same thing when it comes to the f? 16, the prime minister. however, we should recognize the reality. we should recognize the reality that these 2 neighbors actually, once they overcome these issues,

i think without digging for interference of the 3rd party is like friends selling weaponry or, or defense mechanism to, to grease or the united states. bringing its military deployment to the, to the grease. i think the solution would be easier. however, you know, the unreliability of the greek side, the other 3rd parties, and using grease, you know, in a way to actually contain turkey in the region. one pushes for, pushes turkey away from the west. it eliminates turkey from the was it otherwise turkey from west. and this is not in interest of the west. i think that the turkey valleys in the region should be realized. and the grain deal is a great example of that. how it, you know, kinda stop the grow global food crisis for exam. i think i realize we should value these moves by turkey to find diplomatic solutions. pizza clip is this dispute more about access to,

to the waters around the islands and the potential natural natural resources there rather than the islands themselves? well, i mean there's that, there's the, you know, the military importance of these islands, you know, if ever there would be a conflict of course this, you know, this helps greece to half island, so close to turkeys, mainland, i mean to, to, to comment on, on what the what the turkish speakers says it's true that you know, turkey and aragon deserve some credit for you know, they're, you know, mediation in the conflict to secure the the green deal. and aragon has been saying that it's very important to respect the territorial integrity of ukraine, specifically referring to crimea. but then on the other hand, it's weird stuff. he sort of dislike, he describes the the greek status of these islands as situation of

occupation. you know, that's not sensible. i think it's, it's or in oil to the, to the flames. and perhaps some of it can be explained by the fact that our target himself has an election next year. you know, he is not, not sure who's gone when the opposition is coming, coming on very strong. the opposition is much more secular. but you know, when it comes to foreign policy or to gone and the opposition often agree. so, you know, if he can come across a strong on foreign policy, you know, this is in his interest to, to, to sort of convince salma non convinced voters george scott plus, what do you think is it is a stay care for, for athens, particularly with the potential for natural resources around around those islands was a possibility for dialogue is currently very,

very limited. and obviously it's not the unreliability of grace waves is leading to this outcome. our prime minister has repeatedly said that grace is prepared for a dialogue. but when one countries under constant thread by the other, with the use of military force, you can very well understand that the conditions for our dialogue are no idea at the same time agrees recognizes only the deli mutation of maritime zones. the only legal difference between the 2 sides, while 30 said then guys much broader. so under the current circumstances, i find been impossible for the 2 sides to talk about the issue of deli mutation and also reach us solution by contrast and taken into account the general disable of their key into account. it should be mentioned that there are other countries. weeds are proceeding towards the limitation agreements in line with international

law and the law this see the convention that has not signed. our recent example is the deal between italian. yeah, italian greece, greece and egypt and other agreements that are highlight things that are there are several partners in the eastern mediterranean that want to proceed together. and also there is the east med gas for my regional organization, which is including several counters and partners in the region. gracie, israel sy, bruce jordan, italy, france therapy is not part of it. and the reason that there is not part of the youth med got form is obviously that the behavioral therapy is not accepted by the majority. i believe that this is a clear indication that most congress in jason mediterranean lead aside the united europe unit and the united states are not very happy with the doctors. they're welcome to join if it respects international law. if it respects the role of the majority, memory is, i mean turkey has said that he has no,

the turkish government has said that it has no intention of invading these islands . and, and, you know, we take that at face value, but is there, is that more, is it more about the fact that because of the natural resources that, that can be around these islands, finding a natural gas and so on. turkey doesn't want to be left out of, of that part of the equation. and very rightly so, because it turkey is, you know, turkey has obviously close to these, these waters and including the turkish cypress, which turkey supports in that, in that sense. turkey is widely asking for its interest, and it cannot be this the limit, maritime, the limit then, the mutation cannot be, you know, for, for, for very good international law. reason. it cannot be the way greek side is

translating them so that you know that there. but on the other hand, we were talking about that the turkish elections and how this will serve on the on hand, or whether it's actually on his favor. turkish grease greek relations have been tens for a long time. however, if we look at the reason, publications, they have been mostly actually almost all of them. they have been coming from the greek side and this doesn't help establish dialogue. the i mentioned that earlier, i listed several provocations by the greek side and, and this also, of course, regardless of the who is the governing turkey, there is a sense of riley around the leader when it comes to turkey, greek relations. alright. regardless of the position or, or who is governing, when it, when it comes to the state policy, turkish government seeks to maximize their interest. and this is very natural for either side of the equation. let's, let's put that to george standard. turkey sees grease as the as the,

the provocative in all of this. what do you say to that? while the seas, their authority calls of the 30 said government, it is well known. but at the same time, it is very well rejected in the european union in the united states. also, during talks of the east med gas forum, it is clear that grace is defending itself. and the, obviously, the constant threats from the other side are not that helping the situation. so i believe that especially in the aftermath of the invasion of ukraine, there is a sensitivity in the last about or the vision is tendencies. some be shams and philosophies, and greece is working towards this direction. waste each bar nursing, including the european union and the united states. and as far as the european union is concerned, these are their owners of the family of europe in union. 30 is not a member of the european union. and for the time being, it seems impossible for each plant or if it thinks it behave or then there could be

chances. and obviously i said of the meeting, the important european political community may think that will take place in prague after 10 days, perhaps that we are unable to unity for our leaders. but i mean, service attack isn't present. and to meet this will be good news. but if the public rhetoric continues from the other side, obviously i cannot be optimistic about any breakthrough in even a meeting between the 2 leaders. alright, let's, let's get what's probably going to be last were 2 minutes. i mean, how do you see this lang out? ok. i know you want to respond to what georgia said there, but i want to ask you as well as you know, you see the potential for this to, to calm down eventually or, or could really get out of hand. i think i can come down turkey respects, territorial integrity of all members of the international community. and they have numerous times i mention that and particularly with regards to greece, they have made that clear and firm that turkey respect their territorial integrity . however, you know,

this harsh rhetoric that the previous speaker is talking about comes as a result of the propagation. it doesn't actually emerge out of nowhere. it comes after the harassment of turkish, just on nato duty. it comes after the firing of turkish, you know, the commercial vessel. it comes after, you know, pushing away all these refugees in the g and to death. it comes after a several provocations the rhetoric of course escalate and it, and it is, it serves president art on hand. and this is a natural outcome. however, if we're talking about a threat, you know, it's a, it's a construct, construct a threat, whereas the publications are actual actually tangible and they take place georgia. how do you see this playing out? and this is, as we said, the latest in a long list of disputes between greece and turkey. willis, does this have the potential to, to, to get worse?

yes, it has one dazzle of getting worse and that he story is playing on the board under already in that regard. so if we are looking at the volition of 30 relations and the relationship between 30 and cyber from historical lands were much restoril the present, then we cannot be optimistic. and what is even more frustrating. and this boy is of the fact that there is no contract at the highest level right now. and we can obviously understand that from the moment leaders don't talk to each other. then there is a possibility for a names and then in the gym or in the eastern mediterranean, but force, or if this happens with the responsibility of the other side, greece will defend itself. this is clear, this is grace is policy and this is greater policy. it's supported by both browsers and washington. all right, we've got to leave it there. thanks very much to you gentlemen. george sculpus in athens and memory shirley in his temple. and our thanks as well to pete the clip in

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