when the play, some of them will come in a different different way than than the other. but at the end of the day, or this tournament is going to be a successful, this tournament is going to be one, a tournament, gothic another men and the books of history for years and years to come under intense scrutiny. since it won the bid cutter has made reforms to its labor laws, allowing migrant workers to switch employers and mandating improved working conditions, but rights activists. so the reforms aren't fully enforced and death linked to working practices have often gone uncounted. and there is labor law requires compensation when those data work related. and so we do any to ensure that those data investigated and that they are preventative measures until taking place to ensure that that's not happening in the 1st place. that this major football industry event. the talk was of what the 1st winter world cup would bring. high quality play a compact, culturally diverse tournament designed to be carbon neutral. the message here from cutter is that now is the time to focus on the delivery of this tournament. the

upcoming moment of truth, but it's clear that the years of criticism, particularly on the issue of migrant workers, won't simply melt away once the football is underway. and indeed some of it will come from the teams themselves. harry force it al jazeera sybil. ah, you're watching them to 0 these the headlines this hour and begin a fast. so there's been heavy gunfire overnight and the capital wag do go. the military is on the ground and has taken control of major straits and on the strategic installations. television and radio signals are down. nicholas hark has more from neighboring synagogue. there seems to be right now in the capital, dumber. a sense of panic, all of the streets, all the major arteries that lead to the presidential palace to the parliament, to the constitutional court are being manned by soldiers. now, people that have been tried to approach these areas have been told to return back

to move away. i haven't told the public or there hasn't been any public announcement of what their motivations are. and these 23 people have been killed in a michelle strike. me the southern ukrainian city of em, but keith and moscow blaming each other for the strike. the regional governor says the miss, i'll have a convoy of civilian vehicles in the outskirts of the city. both russia and ukraine are accusing each other of the attack for a challenge is following developments from what we understand from the local ukrainian authorities is that a civilian humanitarian convoy vehicles was heading from the city. is that the ratio into the occupied territories of the outlaws when it was struck, the recording authorities say by the russians 23 people killed as far as we know so far, 35 injured the russians though,

a saying it was the ukrainians. who did it you claimed, meanwhile, is called an emergency meeting of top officials after russia said it would amex for ukrainian regions on friday. this fellows referendums in these areas where according to moscow, people voted overwhelmingly to join russia. and at least 35 people have been killed after a suicide boma targeted in education center in cobble. it has happened in an area of the capital where many people from the has are a minority leave. those are the headlines. i'm emily anglin. the news continues on al jazeera. after this stream. we don't simply focus on the politics of the conflict. it's the human suffering that we report time we brave bullet and bomb, and we've always include the views from our sites with welcome to the stream. i'm at savage dean, today living through the war in ukraine. how are ukrainians dealing with the latest

shifts in the conflict, including the prospect of further russian annexation? take a listen to what ukrainian president vladimir zalinski had to say on tuesday. yes, sure. twist on what she duma, if someone over there and russia thinks that they can get away with everything they are doing in the occupied territory. if someone over there in russia hopes that the world will betray its own values, frightened by some russian announcements about annexation ovals, then they are wrong delani. each subsequent escalating step by the occupy are only confirms the fact that the world must act even tougher. today will hear more about the war from people inside ukraine with us from kiev. alexandra might be a joke, executive director for ukraine center for civil liberties in car keith, maria of diva security analyst, and research director for the european expert association. and tatiana pedantic, ceo of the human rights center is amina. and as always,

you can join this conversation with your questions and comments right here in our live you to chat. i want to start with the basics. let's start where you are maria and car. keep what is, what is it like on the ground there? i mean, you heard, you know, what, what, what, what the president of ukraine had to say. what is, what is, what are the people of ukraine feeling that where you are? i think excellent situation in harkey is very important on the other steps of put in and russia. and because in the after very successful ukraine and counter offensive in the almost old territory of parking region was liberated and it was on the russian occupation for more than 6 months. and with the defeat and with the russian troops lean of the harkey region, i have seen it myself like the abandon bad sense of military weak bills and just

run out to the territory of russia with those still occupied territory. we didn't have to show something to his own population. so some kind of victory has some kind of progress. and that to give something about which he can further mobilize rational side and to give ground for the support of this ongoing war and invasion. and of course, people in hard feel very in their genetic about the developments about deliberation . but on the other hand, they have a very difficult when we have to understand the situation because people have no access to run. and what to look with the to know basic supplies for 6 months, the last and still big even after the territory liberated, it's still very difficult for them. just simple or survive. and maria and maria forgive me. i mean, they're basically starving. they're struggling to survive,

but it's still dangerous. i mean, they're still attack even this week. for example, on a railway. i mean, is it true that even though it's been liberated, it's still tenuous. absolutely. russia is, continues to target, tend to be lend infrastructure just in case they target to the infrastructure objects which supply electricity and the heat in which means the winter will be very harsh for people hard on the 40 kilometers away from the board. jackson, which means even, you know, if the a western rep on helping to protect the air defense up and will not be supplied. it will be very difficult for your great army to stop that russian meet. because russia is actually a shower in the region with me almost every day. and it certainly seems, despite everything you said, and you outlined that the momentum is on the ukrainian side, or at least

a lot of analysts are saying that i do want to ask you, you know, despite this sort of setbacks that we've seen military, the putting seems to be doubling down right on friday, expected to sign these documents after this sort of so called the referendum this vote in those 4 territories that are due to be annexed. i'm wondering with that in mind, what do you think that that's about alexandra? i mean, you're a human rights lawyer, is there anything legitimate about this referendum and if it's not legitimate, why is that significant? it's not the 1st time we've seen. couldn't do this as it is the same that a friend or the total fake which way are nicer in the form of mockery into the mutation or, or ukrainians, police and their pipe editors. but the rest, very understandable reason why fortune organized this baker procedure. because this fake referenda was not legal procedure birth informational,

special operation. and he tried to repeat his us so called successful store you when he denies the same thing you could have for him. doom on there, there refills in your bytes, crimea, it's years to go. we was here, you're in this so called preferred, don't reward him hero, through our mobile as groups. and we, so how russians prosecute extra people who try even peacefully suppress their patients. but after several little years, people in europe in other countries start to think may be a creamy and want to joy and russia for free, right? because they even have such kind for random. so poochie and try to use this information. but the gratian was to growth, he try to show their happy people who are joining the russia for russian population . and she tried to rely upon on short people memory and repeat this so called

successful stories with crimea, random with europe, ian and other kind of audience. and i appreciate that context and those nuances. i mean, it certainly seems like he's trying to obfuscate and confuse the world. seems like a strategy there. i want to also share with you, you know, a lot of people asking, is there an end insight to this war? one of those people, jason j smart, a political adviser in warsaw, poland had this to say, take a listen, new war and be very times it would seem that the russian army though, has continued to fail to make any games or even to maintain the games they made months ago, ukraine continues to be on the offensive, pushing and pushing, and what they're doing now has been very successful. now we see also that the russians are suffering from huge losses, low morale, and the general population has increasingly turn it against the war. it would certainly seem that the momentum at this point,

it other side of ukraine. so i'm curious, you know, what do you make of his comments there? i mean, does he have the momentum and why putting kind of belligerently, you know, taking things out of the 2014 playbook, but also seemingly tried and doing what he was ignoring sort of the reality on the ground. yes, the russian troops are being kicked off for more and more ingrained them better service and your brain and armed forces are doing their job where well, although for us this is very difficult because menu was fransen relatives defined in our country weapon. for example, my brother, he's a capital grammar, but he's not wrong than yet. and as a co founder and board member of my and your human bi, defend, maxine, good coverage is also one to protect our land. as a part of your grand armed forces are now he's now in the russian cosivity for us.

this victory. also, we also hope for, for our, the france and colleagues. return and come back after the war and, but the v. c. as you correctly said, there is support for collation and we can announce maximum zation and in russia, which means that these unprepared soldiers, many of them will die because they are not prepared for will be for, but also from ukraine inside the also, there will be more people killed and also looking at the picture at what russian army is leaving behind. we'll fix a huge amount of toss it this and war crimes. and our fields mission just came back yesterday from quite a cubit each and my colleagues working in voluntarily in,

in new york. and in a week, they documented a many instances of fire exit fusions of civilians. the cases of re for looting torture imports disappearances. and we might say that russia is using it as had of that warfare. and you know, the russian troops are, they just live in a lot of their every behind because they are forced to retreat and they are forced to just run and the we have seen that a lot of cases then the russians are just abandoned in everything. and use them the, the bicycles or cars they stole from the territory they've recently occupied. and this shows the russian army is not as strong as we didn't want everyone to be of course. and then what is he now doing is probably struggling to show something to

his own population and to the world, and also this black male and with a nuclear straight as one of this right of me. right? and i do want to talk about the nuclear threat and also those war crimes and all your evidence that you've gathered, but also how that factors into whether there is an end insight. in fact, to this war. if you look at my screen here in bremar tweeting kremlin bow billboards that are announcing done, that's lou hans and all these other for the total of 4 tours territory is saying that the annexations come shortly. you see these banners in russia when you see these things in russia, do you think that's actually going to change things on the ground? i know maria said earlier that like sandra, she's a little worried about the winter when you see these billboards, what comes to mind? well, 1st, i'm sorry. we'll start with alexandra. go ahead. i will start with a point that the 1st thought which i came to my mind in that the fight

in not only for the territory but told the people wholly from the territories. that's why we have no other choice sooner or later. we will do you buy this territory and liberate all our people. and i'm, i'm glad you brought up the people living in that territory. we actually have an, a mash up of some people living in the periphery of the 4 territories. that russia's antics seeing that you can see there. and they kind of seem to have some varying views on, on a lot of things, really the legitimacy of the vote and how things may end. take a listen. with the turner it was from 15 to 30 percent of the inhabitants of the city. not so to take the results from bit any math. what to some will say that this is not statistics offensive when what to my do those yet that i'm in favor of the

referenda personally, i don't care who it is. i'm for peace because i have 2 grand children and i worry about them. i mean, if the, for the full it's when i consider what is happening there to be a total circus, people are being forced to vote. it doesn't make any difference if they vote or not, people are trying to save their lives, so they don't get killed. that's my opinion. these votes are not legitimate. maria, your reactions, i mean dentist calling at a total circus, i would imagine the 3 of you agree with that. but then you also heard from, you know, someone from an older generation valentina, they're saying she, she's supporting the referent. well, i would say that some of the people who leave on the occupied territories for all these 7 years, things that russia 1st thought of the invasion, they're proud of what the job because they have no choice. russia is feeling the

territories with military which actually all the time, read them, population, leave them there. and let's take into consideration situation in the upper part of the territory where the nuclear ball land is actually located is occupied by russians and people working at the nuclear plant. when can not go home, they're forced to stay there. they are forced to do what the russian military is saying them, whereas the center of the regions appreciated south is in the ukraine. uncontrolled territory in kwan every day shall by the russian army. so we cannot say that people on the occupied territories have to be with the extra to say, was an independent live what their thoughts are. because like a neighbor came to your house and puts a gun and ask you to ward for you. it was, this is all right,

and then you know me go i have seen yeah, go ahead. go ahead. i would like to emphasize input and sentence with this women to a woman told me, she told me, i'm waiting for russia because i want peace, vigorous i am carried about my family and children, et cetera. and this is something i absorbed for 8 years because for 8 years we have part of ukrainian territories under accommodation of russia. i mean crimea and bar to will guns continue region. and some people choose to take the so called survival modo, so they told, well, not, and favor of ukraine. milton ferro, russia, we went into the people are not interested in politics. we just want to have a, we're like routine work and to raise our children, etc. but as a human rights defender documented for crimes for 8 years on this territory,

i know for sure that the survival modo will not save this people. unfortunately, i appreciate you making a point that i can agree is because my enjoy in your mind is that important disappearances and abductions. and we get that information about 328 cases where local governments representatives or journalists activists will in theaters were kidnapped. and out of them, 16 persons fortune till death. and the half of the people are still in captivity and they are captain. when you call in the basement, but this practice of enforce disappearing. devices, litigation of checks, if not, if you will, because when brush occupied occupied crimea, back in 2014 the occupational authorities and the russian army acted together with the local foreign military group, which is called crimea. and self defense immediately started from the practice of

abduction of local activities. from that time 201421644 persons in crimea, where at the dock it and the majority of them were all try me on the thought origin . the origin of people and then they immediately continue this practice in the boss where hundreds of people were became a victim soaking for disappearance. and now we can speak about 1000, so we can. so can you and said before is only us only only one and jo collected over 300 cases and there are many other and yours that analyze the data. and i appreciate you talking about don bass obviously for to me. and i know that is the northernmost region of ukraine. and you know, we've seen the documentation of war crimes, the obligations being made, not just by human rights defenders and lawyers like yourself, but the u. s. independent, international commission released findings that russia has committed war crimes and ukraine. this is your tweet, maria, you, you, you visited in,

is you the bodies that were being, i think hundreds of eggs, emissions, as you say, unmarked graves. people being lifted out. witnesses confirm to you that they saw people being shot on the street by russians. other died from shelling and the lack of access to health care. you describe it in your treat as so horrible you could barely breathe. i'm curious. what can you share with us about that experience and what, what worries you most about the winter, we've seen the nuclear threats. we discussed briefly. we've seen the threats of depriving europe and others of energy. what worries you most i've been for the last 2 weeks going around harkey region to the area that were just recently liberated and we have, we have seen one and the same feature. it would be torture. where russians will put people when, when they were on their occupation, the other thing will be my grade because they wasn't great. where about 450

grace, unmarked. we just numbers to fall and it's just the only one, the most terry, both kids but they're out the same situations in other occupied regions. and then people are telling that they've seen there's been killed. i have personally talked to witnesses, not 1 may need, some of them saw it. the other say that their relative just disappeared and they don't know where they are. and people because the all the cars, all the communication and all the and utility smoke cut off their work, look in with a very great right and concern in the upcoming winter. what will they do now? they are offered to be evacuated? no, if you want, you can be about it to the territory of ukraine where you will have more or less

conditions for living through the winter. yeah. and you know, it's, it's interesting to hear you outline those concerns and seeing some of the questions that are coming into us on our youtube chat. i want to share one with you . alex sandra hunter thompson saying wasn't ukraine winning? how are russia managing to? and i see cranium territory does not involve them being in the territory with fake western news. obviously, you know, raising to varying kind of narratives here that the western media not always get this right. but also that, you know, it's confusing. how was russia actually going to annex 15 percent of the territory? alexandra, does that mean ukraine's not winning and what is needed to win, or at least to end? this war isn't weapons. i'm a human rights lawyer who spent 20 years for defend human rights in ukraine,

and we see regions. and now when they ask how we can help people in the queue by 3030, just to buy from the terror, which russians are going. i there. i found myself in the 1st iteration when they answer least provide the ukraine with weapons. because all my 20 years experience in human rights defense couldn't help me because any legal instrument on not work. russia brutally ignored the international him, when you said in law and all decision for international organization. so i will remind you that this for started not in february this year, but in february 2014 and fortune started this war. yes, only. i'm sorry, i don't mean to interrupt you, but you made this point. i appreciate you making the point that it didn't start now . but i'm just going to push back a little bit on this question of these threats that we hear. i mean, is this an actual, do you imagine we've heard these threats before from putting is that

a real possibility in your mind as someone who is, who's been following this and documenting all this? alexandra puts you and will, will stop only when he will be stopped, so he will do everything which he won't until he will, he will be aloft to do it. so, the response to this question depend on international community, okay. and the problem, and i just want to say, it's hard to interrupt you again. i'm terribly sorry, but in the spirit of time, i want to understand what does the international community need to do most in your mind as a human rights lawyer? is it sense long range weapons? i mean, that's been the demand for from ukraine long creation, distance, weapons, economical function, which control stability of russian economy to get this for and justice. we really need justice because russian troops committed this war crimes for decades in shooting are in the old, over in seat. it in the be in monday and they enjoy and they start to believe they

can do ever seen what they wanted. we must break the circle from community. we need justice. and with that in mind, i want to come to you, maria. i want to share with you a video comment that we received from max and pen shanker. take a listen. russia is now trying to mobilize a huge amount of reservation in an attempt to reverse what otherwise seems to be a losing battle. and in this context, ration this information practice is key. in addition to the regional messages about ukraine, allegedly being naughty state, which was used to innovate the country in the 1st place. russia is now trying to pay the picture of fighting the entire need to block in ukraine, which of course hate in the risks or potential nuclear incident. you know, maria, i have to ask you, what do you think of that? and also, you know, in our youth chat, a lot of people are very concerned and curious about this nuclear war threat we've heard at time and time again. is it a real threat or is it just, you know,

saber rattling? is it just buying time? what, what is it in your mind? well, we have to take this very serious and we have to be prepared for your question. if your grade needs the web on the most, yes, this is the only way out and we need to weapons to protect the leg. the more long ranch, high, precise, where when you break the quicker all the territory or you great will deliberate and that's the only call you read to liberate all the territories that now on low elect occupied by russia. how so the response to the nuclear threat and nuclear blackmail and provide you create more weapons? show that you all the west is united and we are all united and we will not let him continue this blackmail. and because if he only succeeds in this, he will go for that he will go for both on anywhere he wishes because that's his

dream. and he does about it openly. he wants, i mean, put in to restore the russian empire. and with that, he won't talk only in ukraine now, most certainly, and i, i want to thank you, tatiana, and all of you for joining us. i mean, you know, we've, we've seen that the was washington d. c. and the you are planning to impose additional additional sanctions on russia . we don't know if that'll be enough, but it's certainly not the last conversation we'll have here at the stream. thank you for joining us, and we'll see you next time. ah october on al jazeera campaigning for nigeria. elections begins as candidates void for votes, and what is set to be a decisive and close race. emmy award winning phone lines returns with an exclusive investigation into a leg to cover up by the us border patrol. china holds us national congress of

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