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to the details of that cannot yet, but a prospect is not very clear. what is getting an error in this deed is it is then i'd be getting a security and there is security guarantees. are you getting any guarantees that they're not? not going to be any attacks from these from the has vala. israel is expected to receive a copy of the written offer in the coming days. the agreement won't become formal until the parties finalize it. during indirect meetings at a un base near their border. a breakthrough doesn't signal piece or a normalization of relations, but it could reduce tensions and allow gas to flow from under the sea. said a hood, their elders either built a more than 400000 homes and businesses without power of to harken in slanders with carolina's store made landfall in the u. s. for a 2nd time on friday, in myrtle beach shows, strong winds have caused a surge of sea water. it has now been downgraded to a post tropical cyclone as it heads to virginia's. meanwhile, mop up operations continue in florida where at least 23 people have died.
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ah, services out there, these are the top stories and russia says troops had withdrawn from the strategically important city of early man. internet's. it served as of the just sticks and transport hub from moscow, connecting east new crane to the north where he challenges more now from cave. this is considered here to be a key town, the key town because it was a fairly major russian garrison. thousands of russian troops base there in recent weeks. we don't know how many of those have been killed. we don't know how many of those have been taken. prison at that potentially a significant number. it was also important for the russians, because the man, he's a rail hub. so russia's military relies very heavily on rail transportation to
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move troops to move weaponry, to move supplies around the front lines. losing the man is going to be a blow for rushes ability to supply other parts of its front. because if i says, answered president, pull already to me, but has denied the military is taking over. the government itself declared new military leader captain able to him throw a claim. the french army is protected me by the french mc says its forces not involved. this group has condemned at the latest seizure of power. thousands have gathered in the iraqi capital to march the 3rd anniversary of major demonstrations against government. the protest in 2019 called for an end to ramp and corruption and high unemployment students from some a rating university to hold the sit in following the death of muslim meaning that accusing the government to suppressing opposing voices and detaining students. i mean, he died last month of to be arrested by around so called morality police. final
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campaign events are being held in brazil, head of the 1st round of presidential elections, presidential hopeful louis enough to let the silver as attended a march and south power. while jaya bel scenario lead a motorcycle con boy, nearby lebanon's president has received a usaa mediated proposal to resolve a maritime board dispute with israel, israel and lebanon. i've been holding indirect talks on territorial waters in the mid and the division of gas fields. that's no longer more news coming up here. not 0 right after inside store. ah. looking at fossils, military leader is ousted in it's 2nd cool. this year,
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similar takeovers in guinea. and molly have race, years of a rollback of democracy in west africa. what's behind the instability and how should the international tv respond? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully battery book we're keener fossil has now witnessed to military cause in 9 months. leader port army demi bow was overthrown by some of the same soldiers who 1st backed him in the january take over . on friday, people walk up to the sound of gunfire. round the presidential palace and military barracks in the capital laga, dougal soldiers blocked major roads. amoeba appealed for calm, but soon protesters waiting borkin abbey,
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and russian flags began to call for his removal to me, but has been in far for 9 months. he is skill book enough also he has sold all of us his income, but the people will raise their voices to make him understand that the knob is no longer agree with the partnerships upon us with from will not in favor of twos, but we are in favor of cues, a lead us to cooperate with other partners. when, when partners members of special forces led by captain abraham trial, re later appeared on television to say they've asked it's dummy that they accused him of failing to stop attacks by armed groups. borders have been closed and all political activities to meet the committee i will come and ideal was betrayed by a lead and attending colonel paul henry dummy bur, in whom we had placed all our trustees. indeed, the deterioration of the security situation, which justified our action that had been really good to the background in favor of
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unfortunate political adventures. the cool marks the 6 military power grab in the western central africa region in dressed over 2 years in january. the 1st in book in a fossil this year lead to its suspension from the 15 member economic community of west african states or echo us. molly saw cools in both 20202021 prompting if suspension from acres in the african union at glass lifted sanctions in july after military leaders agreed to hold elections next year. but relations with former colonial power of france, deteriorated and french forces withdrew. however, that wasn't the case with chad when the army took power in april 2021. after president eager is debbie was killed on the battlefield. france and regional bodies showed little reaction when his son replaced them. 5 months later, president alpha con day was answered in guinea. it was also suspended by eckworth and sanctions were imposed. guineas, ruling military gender now has a month to set
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a transition period back to civilian law or face tougher sanctions. al jazeera nicholas hark has more were in the car, senegal, the country where there's never been a coup or even an attempted to people here, vote for their president and the outcomes of elections are largely accepted. it's an exception and are region marked by cruise after cruise just in the last 2 years . there's been cool within truth for recently in burkina faso. so why is this happening? well, there's a lack of trust in democracy in democratic institutions. west african leaders are perceived by many as corrupt and as democracy is seen as corrupt itself. now all these countries have something in common, their former french colonies. and in each of these countries, including here in senegal, there are military bases. and despite the presence of french forces on the ground, it's in countries where we're seeing arm groves gaining grounds that we're seeing
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cruise. there's this feeling that elected officials are unable to do with the military can, which is to bring back peace and security and origin marred by violence sparren groups linked to al qaeda, an eyesore. and so that's what's at stake in brookings. so for the young captain trying to bring back peace and security to country where the government has lost 40 percent of the lands. nicholas hawk for inside story. ah, well that's bringing our guest now in molly's capital bama call for here. i'm on. we're drake. coney, senior researcher at the institute for security studies in casa blanca, morocco, i'm a gay, political commentator, informa director of information that echo last and in absolute sweden emanuel cry. see, i need visiting chair at abilene diversities, nordic africa institute. gentlemen, welcome to you all. thank you so much for being on a 5 story fire man in bama co let me start with you. just over a week ago,
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booking of fossils ousted leader demi bi, gave an impassioned speech at the un general assembly defending the code that he led in january, saying that it was an of survival for his country. booking a fossil, he promised to make it more secure, and here we are 9 months after that call, he is also ousted. what went wrong for him? why did his own soldiers turn against them? thank you for you. bite me for the discussion. i think 99 months after they were there when notes really tangible result for the screen, the security from a while. in fact to dummy by give this region of the incapacity of the previous regime, civilian elected regime, to fight against the janet insurrection. they have not done not been able to do
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better, and the country now remain the center of the attacks. in this, i have almost the certain region of the country under a day, the attacks, and almo, almost to book, cannot be out of 10 of the space people. so there was not, can you ball results? and inside the military elite, there were a heavy criticism to seize no tangible results. you say adam again in casablanca, you, you don't see this as a surprise, this new cool in booking of fossil, what do you think lead to the divisions within the army? oh, it was, you know, that was running to show as a sort of person, many in drunken fire. we're not happy with the exact positions
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and is a close the relationship with the organ. the other son was visited recently and he's busy through the form of a work, you know, so leave you a with another reason why they were up about it, but we all really do is that a priest? n 8 months, 9 months down the line. it were to fix the insecurity challenge, the country is losing it. so currently you're just under control of a lease and or so he's contracted with economic problems in the country. so or, or you're going to be able to deliver capacity of his regime is the main reason,
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explain it to you my, the reason why people intervene and nobody has been released or 40 departure to declare that there was a delay in coming up. i emanuel and absent, i your thoughts i, it's not just for keener fossil, of course, we seen cause also in the last 2 years in guinea in miley as well. what is behind these repeated takeover is what's, what's fueling then? and do you think there's also a copy caught phenomenon going on here? and then when it will be excluded, task relates 1st and foremost, to be feared democrats governance fairs to provide generalized security to communities and also increasingly pocket security. creating a down swelled sense of exclusion of victims, hold a novice possession,
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contributing to under my name, the attachment to the stage, the lay out to the stage in which we are seeing a small group, horrendously corrupt and the so she had said, you know, from the populace, these are not quite good kept comcast lead as get it very straight. and i've said this several times, so your program is west africa, lead on the ball or back from the break. and there is one more task successful all fairly robust. but if we did before, june 25th, it know, doing a printed grade, then the end, the phase of west africa will begin to crumble. so you talk about a failure of democratic governance. do you see these cool spelling,
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the end of democracy in west africa? you know, but we come back from the break in the countries that asked to be in and then we'll manage to distribute demographic dividends in such a manner that the populace can feel that democracy where's the alternative to have to group? so what's africa that i've feeling in sending signals to the people that the are much more competent than the military receives? okay, when do you still the military's yours? the security as a basis to cause we know my kid i 5. so he said
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chad and did that. yeah, yeah. your thoughts about this? it would seem that the military men, despite their promises, haven't been able to bring about security, as you've said yourself. we've seen an increase of tax and booking fossil in molly as well. what have been their limits in terms of security, you think? is it just all down to a lack of strategy to be talking about a lot of bro, the strategy are listed structures. it's we, into the military action, but also political processes. but we have to be aware dots, and we do governance, there is a deep destructor of about governance in our country. the excitement about democrats in the eighty's tried to call lee turned into enact my public tradition under the manipulation of democracy as not build strong institution
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encouraging army institution to i'm institution. i failed to get to the good governance and a military themselves. there were problems. so they are not all on the time to do good tests on all do the integrated passage to, to, to, to resolve those of governance. so it is, yes is a question of a good strategy, a strike, which is and rooted in out to say political a governance, but also a good article to try to the military strategy. and the insecurity. we have to know that is not a focus in one counters. is a raj and is the original tre indeed. so for a country itself to fight against the judge, this group without a joint cognition of the action. would it be?
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i think for me a lack of time, so there should be a broad strategy and in this way, doubt it was, for example, the it's origin institute original institution are very important to have the rules in this situation and to solve it out of my game. i want to talk to you about why says reaction to these cause and the general reaction by france and, and also the united states has been to denounce them. but at the same time, quite quietly. accept them as don deals, except in the case of money, of course, where we've seen a deteriorating relationship with france and france pulling its troops out of molly . but it seems that in most cases, it's business as usual when it comes to paris and washington. what should the international response have been? and do you think eco office sanctions are effective? has a co wife responded effectively? it could be any somehow
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in the show and even try to be nice to them because they were on the assumptions, are considered a b a where they were caused. the problem is that there are progressively a sense of who fatigue, like we see in this region in the past is not done in the seventy's. africa used to be the capital of military. who in the world is now, i mean maybe cool happening and more to come down the line. because unfortunately, as the previous speaker said, don't who are in charge, where the steel or military, they're greedy. and then then, then it would be in
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a position where a teacher should be able to give a good security another. i mean, unfortunately that is not the case. so we can see clearly either at this moment the region, the west african region is left. but do we sell by the international community? nobody wants to mingle who is really and the issue is giving you all the labor to do the manual. do you agree that you do a man or do you agree with that? about the role of the international community here at m, i say, is a class is an empty shell. international committee doesn't want to get involved. these recent calls have certainly raised questions about, you know, the real role of regional and continental multilateral organizations. and whether
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they have, you know, can play a role in averting as democratic backsliding. what are your thoughts about this? what multilateralism is important? and it creates a basis for comprehensive engagement. each member states who have fallen carefully signed on to the protocols and conventions and treatments and pay by share norms and principals. adhere to it become clear that, of course, is incapable of applying these norms and principles. and according to my fed them all, i mean, of course it has of respect to who is chair at the point i believe more in flower and to rhetoric threatening sciences,
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which i ineffective. and about time, no one actually refers to a good job prior to taking in action right now. 112 shifts, and its members themselves do respect the rules that they have signed on to. then it becomes less dog and we are seen and that is incapable of implementing principles and it's a lot i think that is very tragic. and the classic case is how been need that is facing centered extremist threads. breakthrough one day's troops to come and help them. there is no clear i there was christian of the lack of us. ok when members in, by with out of my, i there with, with that issue of echo, as i hear him on,
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we saw rush and flags being waived. and why do go on friday? as you know, france and europe reduces its presence in that region. of course, the french have relocated mostly now to nisha. do you get a sense that russia and these reports of russian mercenaries in molly and brooklyn of fossa, do you get a sense that russia is perhaps getting the upper hand now? and what would russia gaining a strategic foothold in the region mean for the people and the governments in these regions? well, we're seeing the fatigue dr. people of sending guns in seeing that the current government cannot fight against the insecurity. there is no, so this needs to redefine out to all the strategy. and in this way we are seeing that people are reclaiming to turn,
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to turn to back to the traditional i. len sees the, the french military we where the 1st, the had the leadership out, the fight in the i had country of this insecurity. we do reconfiguration of our strategy alliances and i think should be really we should be really very cap 40. so see how, where is the rest of the african state themselves and it, russia is not as is 1st present in the west africa. we should remind remembered, but there were also rushed our cooperation. we've it the money and the government, but also beginning in a long time. but how, what, what is i can see do? how can we evaluate this engagement in the previous time?
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what were the benefits of us? so there is the needs of diversifying the island, sees the military cooperation, not talking only on the west, and the corporation opening to over also contribution. but at the same time, we need to be our leadership of our strategy. we need to be the one who are engaging and that's why for me the pre, all the pre approval keys are to routes on the original institution. ok. and the more do it was and also africa. you know, we engage in the situation. the bid will be the capacity of the national states and armies to fight against this. and so you say regional organizations should be given the priority in resolving the crisis out of my gay. i want to ask you also about the russian president and this renewed russian engagement. it would seem in the
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region. is it good news or bad news? ok, i will take a different viewpoint from what you hear in the street or where the youngster they shall be and crying, dancing, gore rushes. v. as far as i see distribution, it is the somehow very bad the, the sense that it is feeling victory of the approach from russia, china, the turkish coming into africa and supporting the both of these are not promoting democracy and really being the contact for only at the end of it is what it was, is that the other part in the traditionally used to be the west western nations. but unfortunately, i mean, does it seem to be not?
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well, there is a, you know, the, with africa, europe, in february, nobody europe spoke about the growth by region, one of democratic regression. you know, a, b, b, a, b. and if you take a unit, i mean, do i do tell? and the reason is they were or so can don't these kind of behavior. so i don't see it as the response is fixed or russian or can it be the we draw up with the mission and it could be because we got there giving the chance to coffee to prove it. unfortunately, be the end of the ordinary populations. believe that russia or with a good day or not. ok emanuel,
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i'll give you the last word. what does the future hold? you see this military regime is retaining significant influence over politics in these countries in west africa, in the long term? no, i don't think so. i think military regina found the way to go whenever contingent on civilian democratic regimes for me to deliver security can be go look, man stability in their mind about centers of, of west africa. this i have feel that they will practice dividends of which we have for, for, for so long. let me say this and said, very clearly, china, russia, i'm not for a case called friends. yet there's being romantic relationship or but a long period during the holiday, the holidays about the sense of the working group in central africa republic
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in modeling other places. read this one thing about respect my right, the law and then types of re jeans that he want to support. ok. those for james got reflect. thank you so much. thank you, gentlemen, for a very interesting discussion. fire man would re, connie, add them again. manual quiz c name. thank you very much. and thank you too for watching. you can always wash this program again any time by visiting our web site out. i'll just hear a dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash a j inside story. you can of course also during the conversation on twitter handle is a j inside source for me for back to you by the whole team hearing doha, thanks for watching bye. for now, the me
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