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appears to have neither guarantee. after 12 years in power, the conservative parties become accustomed to its annual conference being a rather comfortable and controlled affair. this year is shaping up to be very different. whole brennan al jazeera birmingham. burkina faso was new military leaders of called for carmen, a televised address. after that speech, the new self proclaimed leader abraham troy was seen parading through the capital one auto group on saturday, a state of emergency rooms declared after cruise supporters attacked the french embassy. the accused, the french military of sheltering the ousted president, paul agreed amoeba, which france denies. deny of one made up of those young. we would like to inform the population that the situation is under control and that things are gradually returning to normal. we therefore invite you to go about your daily business freely and to refrain from any acts of violence and vandalism that could undermine the efforts made since the night of the 30th of september. this includes what could be
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perpetrated against the french embassy or the french military base. ah, this is al jazeera, these are the top stories vote counting. continuing and brazil's presidential election left wing frontrunner lewis and nashville lula da silva has taken the lead over president jarda boston adel. those workers party usually get stronger support and regions that are slower to report the results. ukrainian president vladimir zalinski says his forces have retaken 2 settlements in the household region as a counter offensive continues in the east. the capture of the town of leman on saturday is seen as a key moment in that fighting which has been held in indonesia to remember the 125 people killed during a stampede at a football match. president shaka, with dodo has ordered a review of security at football games in response. preliminary
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results are starting to be released in elections held in bosnia herzegovina. the governing system in bosnia is known as one of the most complicated in the world. people are voting for 3 members of the shared presidency as well as parliamentary representatives. life is incumbent center right party has won the most votes in a general election. the campaign was dominated by the war in ukraine and soaring gas prices by manner such as janice comments is taken a tough stance against the rushes invasion on ukraine. yelman's warning signs have failed to reach an agreement to extend a nation wide ceasefire. the truth was broken by the united nations in april and has been renewed twice. both sides, blame each other for allowing the deal to expire, and the un is calling for talks to continue. burkina faso is presidents. paula re dominga has agreed to conditionally resign after speaking to religious and traditional leaders. the new military leader abraham tarry has accepted the
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resignation in order to avoid further violence. britton's prime ministers admitted she should have better prepared the public and the financial markets for her new economic plan announcement of las trice, his tax plan caused the pound to plummet to record lows compared to the dollar. and other storm heineken orleans making his way towards mexico's pacific coast, the category 3 hurricane adding towards the tourist. tons of miser plan and some bloss. what a while yet has already closed it's port to all marine traffic. those are the headlines coming up next. it's up fronts, bye for now. frank assessments, if the united states that you're running a good program, was there to build a nuclear weapon, they would assign to view by informed opinions. i believe that armenia and other regions should have bilateral negotiations. we've been holding that for many times . critical debate is the commonwealth now still something that king charles will
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take on in depth analysis of the data global headlines inside story on al jazeera, brazil's president jack in boston, otto is up for reelection on october, 2nd against former president, luis enough. the old lulu the silver and what many view as a defining moment for the country. what poll suggests that little it is in the lead? some fear that both in our own might not accept defeat. what will this mean for brazil's democracy and what would a new lula presidency look like for brazil will ask brazil, former minister of foreign affairs and current advisor to lose campaign. so, so i'm already in an up front special. ah. so so already thank you so much for joining me on up front. thank you. brazil's elections are coming up on october 2nd, and it is between former president lula da silva, who was currently leading the polls against incumbent j air,
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boston auto. in early this month, both in our support stabbed to death, a lula supporter, and on brazil's independence they both an arrow called the election, a fight between good and evil. meanwhile, at a recent debate, lula accused bernardo of quote, destroying the country. even if little wins the election, millions of people will have voted for boston. are given this level of polarization . how does the country move forward or complicated matter? planing your word, i didn't know i read a diplomat, so i you or she is a different government. both for marriage, something i'll also all the, all to do is like they show up and you go sure and
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g everything you get you i didn't buy with them are more than rational of follow politics. i mean, i have gone through many other elections. this is certainly the most dramatic one you're giving in brazil because after a long time in which also lulu or victim of this, i'm sort of lost. there is huge or whatever we are now. all the democratic boards are supporting hello. yeah, we had received even a meeting with all the rivals, depalma rivals on the e r. all, all of them were rational. people already know it's already the extreme right. never support. so matter what, what do you do when you have people, as you say, who are strong support of the p t, the workers party. you also have people on the other side who are taking a very different position. even if both in our loses, there will be
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a lot of unhappy people. there'll be a lot of unsatisfied people. this election, as you pointed out, is the most dramatic in years. if not ever. how does the country move forward when there's such a big divide between the people? well, i think lower able to construct a big alliance which you, many, you know, more kind of a social democrat. less green may be by your standards. but he built a lot of alliance you. ready the man and he's the vice president. what is former rival so i will deal with them. so we did do geisha patients with dialogue. i think a lot of people are just manipulated by animals. it will be a difficult driver to just do the same question about drunk, isn't it there in the united states? but anyway, i equal and we see what's happening in the thing. so that part of the electron you
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are so important because it's not the election between right and left as if you were the label block, then it goes over the park or something equivalent in german or whatever it's, it's an election between everything that represents the civilized norms of all believing and good in a relation. climate change are as right as people who are on the other side, on the opposite side, you want to destroy, not the left leg. you want to, right, they are destroy the legacy of a 100 years over a 1000000 republic, more than a 100 years yet, or destroying the all the legacy although of the constitutional 40 years ago. so it's something very special and the whole different way to look well actually which is a very close to your one with the dialogue. ready to discuss and to discuss rationally,
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i think will stablish democracy as it should be with lola leaving the poles ahead of brazil election. president, boston ro is already laying the groundwork to declare the election results fraudulent. he's publicly questioning the reliability of the elections, particularly brazil electronic voting system. and the last time lula attempted to run for president in 2018, he was sent to prison by a judge was eventually found to be biased by the country supreme court. the charges were known, but nevertheless the point remains. do you worry what happens if both son r o does not accept the results of the election? i don't think this can happen getting a lot of trouble. some of his people were very fanatic. water is happening tonight . with the capitol hill, f is all, but i don't think these would prevail. get dark and reveal. especially right. the
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doesn't are the only one story got right. the only only successful when they have the board on the canonical eat of the base media and fall august stamp or foreign countries. and in this game both are wont have annual. well, though i don't even realize the other thing you need is support of the military since both and are came to power. he has tripled the number of military personnel in keith civilian pulse to more than a 1000. his running mate is a former general who like both and aro, has praised brazil's military dictatorship, so it doesn't accept the election. what role does the military play this seems like it could be another piece of the, of a potential crisis here. well, i was minister of the same in brazil,
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so i know them rather well one way, one thing was people who are already retired or off or politics like many ministers who actually came from ranks. and the other thing is why the high command of the ability to do i really do the leg work goin adventure, isolate them on in the world. so i don't think they, i think they really do a whole results on direction, especially as if we open, we are clear, we believe it will happen if there is any immediate recognition of the election. okay, fair enough. let's pivot to the economy a bit. lula has argued that it's time to put the poor in the budget, and then it's time to tax the rich. yet there's been talk that he might appoint his
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center right running, mate. sure. all the admin to the finance minister in the past argument supported privatizing brazil state run oil economy. and he's presided over the violent eviction of thousands of families from the pin you're in your settlement. while he was governor of sao paulo is this potential decision a signal that lula might be moving away from left the left wing policies of his last presidency? not at all. i mean, why are you even here last, present or not? so obviously be the part of the election, but many of diminished points cannot be. once you left me, i think of course laser someone who is very careful, read not spending more than it's possible, but at the same time will not relinquish his for the
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financial will help the poor and to hell those and for heads up have been discriminated. all these you blue people, women, black people, you don't brazil, is that you have the largest opera population in the world, a tech on only tonight, jude much bigger than their state. so i think all of these people support lead support to government question, but the court is there isn't the support. the question is if he moving further to the center or center, right. even if you're establishing your, your potential presidency with people whose economic policies and disposition toward the poor is not in line with leveling policies. well, let me see, it's not looking to move to the center of the said the right. don't see the sent the right to the left because of the demand missed the both. so model government were present. so i evicting evicting families in in
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and penny reno privatizing the economic as the oil industry. these are neil liberal and in some ways just violet moves. these are not just a response to both and these are problematic. one there? oh no. that was what you're referring to deposit of the people who would all their land. they are quite right. yeah. was well in the app is we did it . we would not agree with them and agree. and so, but i think louisville knew that i have a very confident appreciation of all being. and i think he is very identified with the whole program. and he has been saying and repeating that, like the most popular leader and the one that really represents people. so i don't have any problem. and of course on problems we may have because they are going to
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be is not or the world off the war. 1 a new grade or sanction, the price of oil all our big problems and of course, you know, gave you have your deforestation that will allow them to be. ready completely given to you by so there are many problems, but i think we have a platform which is more left which will require the asian some time that's happened in the past at all spanish through that. so i will believe the point, but someone not even conciliation at this point if, if you're going into a potential administration, choosing people who are to the right of your economic policy. but i want to talk about corruption for a minute. lewis has promised a crackdown on corruption if elected and he made similar promises in the past,
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but his party, the workers party are p t, isn't immune to corruption itself in 2005, while little was empower. there was a major corruption scandal in which high ranking politicians from the p t were convicted of bribing members of congress to gain political support using public funds. a louis former chief of staff was among those convicted as well as the former head of the party. how do you uphold lou promises? sure is. how do you make, how do we make sure that the christian doesn't happen again? well, liquid, all the, all the instruments to come by. corruption in brazil or at least the most abusive were created during blue ministry. so if you don't reach the president police, they have the i asked read all the only political orientation from the government. many other aspects of opening
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the transparency law. and i was a great number of last. these were great during i think they're part of the that's part of the concern for me sir, is that during the time when the stuff is being established has very party with engaged in corruption and members of his of his staff is former chief of staff was engaged so it seems to me that it's possible for him to have a vigilant. well, i don't pick up the problem was bigger than any other developers who have leave the diplomat. i think a lot of what was called corruption work. what do you call organ bearer? like something like that, there was a rub up, but was not or equally to be at all. you'd have come from a long time and he has to do a lot with, as i said with electric, which makes our electrons very, very expensive. mostly the electrons are represented gets
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4 or margaret people. so i will continue looking at that with transparency and support the strawman. like the federal police, like an independent judiciary, an independent or isn't your case and the case you don't like that state. the manual would be called the general is a political appointee in our case, defender or use also has a great importance in eating golding of what happened in the past. they, they form and they chose for me to say what was correct, of course, corrupt or do something different sheet. you'll have to go back and make them always again. so what these are there have always supported these instruments and they will prevent she just gave up a corrupt appear. again,
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let's talk about the environment a bit. brazil is one of the most bio diverse countries in the world, meaning that brazil's environmental policy could really be a game changer for the world, and why lula has been praised for reducing the rate of amazon deforestation during his time in office. he also supported major infrastructure projects, including the belmont, a hydro electric damn, which displaced where i'm $40000.00 people and triple greenhouse gas emissions in the eastern region. how can you ask people who are affected by those projects to trust lula again? well, let me say a personal goal, although i'm not sure that everything was perfect. there are contract between social forces in the country. but during government, the rate of the deal, not government, the rate of participation, diminished match, absolute match rate, greece, even if there was growing. so you get,
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so there was not there, but i what i would say a real or minister and so on the day the portion of the climate problem nowadays is even bigger. so the deal, probation we did with ensuring that we are not meeting carbon will be much bigger. now these will be in the same federal deal for green development. this is paul is the very the right the state recall. so the green development is present. so i think that the idea of stopping deforestation and having a kind of painful development, but can we, can it be for friends? respectfully, deforestation isn't in question right now. will we reasonably expect more major
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infrastructure projects, more displacement of people. these are things that happen before. why should we believe they won't happen again? because i think that watches for all of them where it is bigger than if your interviews, including the one where we did on or breast gave the i'll actually one, you'll see the climate change became a concern, which was not that central as it is now. la has even mentioned that create the ministry or be handled by the indigenous person. so the vision will be much more centrally the ball and there was the, the just that spoke the whole change. and you also which is very important. i mean, look, game problems, industrial field, sol, good way to just work as you know, way dominant now still are very important or what it is also important to look at
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the digital people are the people of the black origin who even communities, all black people, and rich, although already was happening, the bus will be much more in the future. ok. talk to him or l development lula says that brazil still needs oil for a while. and he said that he would not join an anti oil block as proposed by columbia as newly elected progressive president, gustavo petro. but it looks like you're planning to continue to, to rely on oil despite the climate crisis. how does lula intend to reverse environmental damage from the boston auto years while backing fossil fuels? well, i think these a lot of larger stamps will get back on to see him on the national community. so i think if you find a samsung on how much oil also oil can be if we substitute
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or os loyal by other source of energy like, or green eyes or jane or whatever. so i'm going to follow by follow the rules and you contribute the rules limit guy. what i myself remember while i'm a dog are shooting. so this is a, these are all, sir, very more present. how exactly will be? i can see what i i'm sure. death will work on, on the, on the, on the direction of the d. b, you should of the relative roll up. awesome. what is not only a problem, a problem, united states as well, and what your other brands don't make a statement on other parts of the world. if you've talked about being a career diplomat in the early 2000 and you served as little as foreign affairs and minister. and one of the things that you would have to do to do was to strengthen
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brazil's integration with its south american neighbors. right now, many are saying we're living through a new pink tide with recently elected progressive governments in places like columbia. and sheila, if lula is elected, what role do you see brazil playing in those into regional integration efforts and what are your goals? well, let me tell you, i see the world today. well, there are many, many other aspects to that. but let me see, i see the world today to be in the middle of some kind of dilemma between multiple ladder or old war gold or sometimes beginning, begin grieving or so and reaching the integration of solamerica, of course help america, america, a general genario. so the more weight, great and more all you heard internet and definitely contribution not only to our
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in our favor, but in the world. i think it's very important that the american and caribbean will have their board. in order for that to happen. you have to be more integrated because each country wants to handle their events that you're having a bigger problem don't i could state or bigger investment or trying to without taking into account did the whole continent. i think we'll lose will. i mean, brazil is a big country. even brazil is not big enough. discussed and go nice and state china discuss, we're going to be in your so that's one reason why a degree should be so important. 20 years after his 1st election progresses are once again looking to lula who is now 76 years old. it would appear that no one on the left, his neighbor matches popular research to step 70 even more. so for
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a $77.00. 0 yeah, yeah, no, it's 77 years old and no one seems to be able to match his pop. i don't find it. i am a h e i away. why did it that was 79. yeah, i think this is well the problem with the bottom tech chain in a way, but one of the patterns it seems is that the left is looking to people for help and support without a clear successor ship. when lula leaves office, there is a parliamentary coup. there's major political turmoil. it seems to me that we often are, are centering, our progressive movements around individuals, rather than values. and so then when that person leaves, it's hard to find success or shit, we're seeing the same problem again in the united states. what, what do you say to people who ask the question, what is the plan for a progressive political future in brazil? what is the plan for success or ship that extends beyond?
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well, i don't know, but there are several of you. i would need several equals there in virginia and paula duke's a possible future governor of some follow. what did many other people who would be qualified and why are much younger worry the or the early mean be in order. reconcile the views of a real democratic society with the fearful side, with social justice and so on. may be at this point, we need experience more than inventiveness they'd be 4 years from now. it will be the other way around. but you know, as you like to say, the cross that bridge, when you get to the, our rub allows restoring beef. bill 300 restoring. you manage your restoring civilization, restoring the racial policy,
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good policies for women. so that's what we would need now. what made possible the ally of would you guilds, the traditional center, right? people? and the more or less we will have people were, are very lot, and you'll have people who are bankers, all of them support a little or no. i mean the question of salvation of national home base. i am bracky, you know, i'm an old guy. so i have every bull serrato, i don't think he'll win. i don't think he said you can. but if you would, when brazil, as we have the longer mr. marine. thank you so much for joining me on a thank you very much. all right, that is our show up front will be back next week. the
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