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the quizzical look at us politics. the bottom line hello everyone, i'm josh rushing and you're in the stream. today we're talking about hunger and somalia, the challenges facing a groups there and what can be done to help. we want to hear your thoughts and questions. so see that there joined us in that conversation. we have a lie producer waiting to get your questions to me so that i can get him into the show. ah, there was worse famine in a century is looming over parts of somalia as the horn of africa, braces for its 5th consecutive seasons of drought. the war in ukraine has caused food and supply prices to skyrocket. pushing many people to the brink, the united nations says time is running out to save millions of people from starvation. in seeking more than $1000000000.00 to provide humanitarian relief.

have a listen to what's at stake in somalia, what can be done? what must be done to help millions of people in need amid this terrible drought crisis, is a massive scale up of humanitarian assistance. as the human world food program we've already scaled up to reach more people than ever before, but we need the funding to sustain and increase the scale up. one of the major challenges is getting this aide to the people who need it most, especially in areas where access is difficult because of conflict and insecurity. we have families that have lost live stock. we have millions of people, we've been to knowledge displeased and we are calling for donors and international community to provide more supports to provide more funding so that we can scalable innovations. so that'll get somewhat more people. and so let's get some more legs. joining us today from smalley lan, nemo hassan, she's the director of the somalia and geo consortium. we also have holden ali,

the director of the durable solutions unit in mogadishu. who's at the you wind in new york this week. an esther, the gumby, or the assistant professor at the university of illinois. now before we get to our guest, i want to show you the audience, a map of what's happening in the country. now the map on the left, that one right there, actually, you're looking at it now that shows where we are up to the end of this month in september, in what you see as a country in crisis. but once we roll into october through december, much of the orange becomes red. and you see an emergency. you see red flags for millions of lives at stake. and let me show you why. let's go to my computer here. this is a tweet from samantha power at u. s. a. i d. the map that has some of the blue and green on here is 2017. this is the last time that somalia faced a possible famine and actually didn't go through the famine. you see some blue and

green there. look at the difference between 2017 in 2022. what 5 seasons of drought have done to this country? it has read like it's on fire, nemo ear in the region. what's going on there? what's happening? good evening, josh. thank you for having me. i think you actually painted a very stock situation and some of the moments were over 90 percent of the country is experiencing extreme drought conditions. with about 7800000 people close to 50 percent of the population. now facing crisis level insecurity, children are already dining. some parts of the country partners on the ground have been calling out for support to support the lifesaving interventions at mass scale. and i think it will show show the 27th. the difference between 20172011 was also another worst crisis with quarter 1000000 people

at least 133000 of them children. i'm but 2022 where we are now is actually unprecedented. the worst we've seen. this is long. i'm conflict. you have the impact of coven 19. you have this drought, which is full consensus. i think the worse than 40 years. and that's taken place at the moment. and if we don't scale up the rate that the situation is getting, we will see much more death than in 20112017. the global community react well in time and a birth and family. and we need to do the same show some video here. this is from the world through program and reuters and i want to warn our viewers. it's not

easy to look at this is to see, but i don't want to be so much that we don't see what's actually happening on the ground in somalia. how did you tell me what was it actually like for the families there right now? what are they going through? i think misery and miserable is not enough. it's actual hell on earth for some families and the pictures that you're showing. i mean i came back to somebody on 122011 at the height of the famine in. it's starting to look like that. we haven't seen really dramatically the same numbers, but the images that are starting to show are heading in that direction. and as you pointed out on the map earlier in terms of the extreme levels of a drought and in the cumulative additives of consecutive weight failures in little security,

the impact of this them going to be much greater because communities have lost the resilience to withstand a lot of these are shops that are happening right now, so if, if we don't respond immediately, i think we are going to see maybe a double what we saw in 2011 so that you know, those images that you're showing now, even in not that's not just the rural areas, we're seeing images of that in the show, the capital of the country. how on earth i think yeah, i was actually gonna ask you. i also want to bring him some boards from are you to community? this is louis still says, how was spearman still a thing in this day and age and what ways can world powers help to solve issue we're gonna get to solving at toward the end of the show. but 1st i want to say, well how, how does this keep happening? why does this happen? plea exactly. that is the reason. and we know why it's hot and it's because every

year when drought happen in the home of africa, all we do is jump out of the aid. we put a bonded, we put a bonded and we know that we don't do any long term concrete actions. and for example, we us, for right now, the u. n. is before a to 1000000. with that thought $18000000.00, it's all going to be spent on immediate to a vot junglin from guy. but why are we not putting concrete measures? why it a we have in drought, climate change. most of the communities are depending on grain fed agriculture to produce crops that livestock to i, depending on great, they're failing, we cannot deep and completely andre. so it is important to realize that all we are doing is, every year, having this temporary, ah,

measures not to concrete measures when even if we have concrete measures, what we're going to look at and as raphael, what is happening to see here what is walking, what is not walking so that we can skill this best practices again when it happens next year after he brought in the you, when we actually have a comment from the un commission for human rights for venus, sham dasani, here's what she had to say about it. the ongoing conflict with alicia bob complicates the humanitarian response in terms of gaining access to many of those who are in need. children, women, and older persons are bearing the brunt of the crisis. as the majority of people displaced by drought, this makes children more vulnerable to abuse and exploitation, to recruitment and to use by armed forces and groups, and at risk of sexual violence. the drought is already resulting in increase fighting over adverse scarcer resources,

which has led to larger displacement of communities and an increase in violence against women and children. her name on it seemed like you wanted to jump in there . but what i was picking up from asked her was sounds like, if we keep putting the band aid on it that this is gonna get worse year after year . does that? does that ring true to you? absolutely, i totally agree with. and i think, i mean, obviously somebody has been in crisis for the last 30 years and, and, you know, this area is not prone to drought, but the current climate crisis actually are disproportionately affecting communities. and especially the poor communities who have been hit by one crisis up the other. and i totally agree that we are focused the money that's been the response is totally focused on the band aid humanitarian life saving. what we equally need to do is to invest in those short and long term development programs.

we need to go beyond the humanitarian response and approach. this problem will, which certainly will come back again. and again, from a development angle, you know, we need to be asking certain questions and how can somebody adapt to climate change, which actually it's the least contributor to the current crisis. and how can it, she'll, it's populations from the negative impact of climate change. how resilient are the country's economy and public finances to natural disaster and climate change? these are the questions that need to be answered by all stakeholders, including donors and the somebody government to ensure that this fundable communities can withstand these constant shocks are predictable. hey, i'm coming back. i want to get you in on the guys. i want to share something on my computer real quick because it seems to me that somalia is often at the tail end of what crises are happening around the rest of the world. seem to like land and hit

harder in somalia. so for example, the war in ukraine is having a mass effect effect in somalia. but just this week, the cabinet ministers of ukraine have allocated approximately $12000000.00 to provide humanitarian a t t o. p, and somalia would suffer from your shortage. this is coming through odessa. well, how long should wait until the an 8 tonight is the question. that is the question. every step called every leader. imputed dos, who are attending the own gullies? yeah, those are the questions that we should be asking and demanding answers, immediate answers and answers that have concrete action. so as i said, we did ask this question, does anyone ga, you're at the u. n. g o r r u, as in those questions in our people responding. so i can pick up where esther left off and also maybe the video. i think it's easier to justify the problem. that's as somebody is crisis right now to security, etc, etc. i think there's

a failure in terms of the 8th system in the infrastructure that is in somalia. we are missing the point. i mean, obviously right now we're about saving lives and obviously we need to raise funds to quote unquote, save nice of beyond the saving lives. i. ready our government, the somali government needs to start acting and asking the right question around how that money that the the country is allocated is being spent. we know on the ground that the money that some money receives is not efficiently spent on resilient building programs, water infrastructure, diversification of a likelihoods, and etc, etc. and i think it's so long as we keep sidestepping the real problems, we're going to be yet another famine in couple of years. the issue of climate is just one issue that has derailed the other interventions in somalia, obviously now with exacerbating everything. but there is a system infrastructure issue in terms of from donor giving money to you and

agencies implementing programs and the lack of sort of read a long term strategist around. how do you listen? somali is a income or, or lame. no, it's comes, comes from life stock in farming yet we have been very little to support those communities who have been very little to actually maybe move this communities from, from those particular are skills to other skills or they can start, you know, living life rather than being saved all the time from 2011 till now, the displacement capone of somebody has doubled. so now nearly 40 percent of the population was or one in to be some mileage is displaced by the end of this year's drought, or hopefully not a famine. we're going to much more people displace. yes, we continue to fund emergencies rather than sustainable development programs. i think so long as you're not talking about that,

we're not talking about the issue. yes, we raising the issues we are in every single thing. 8 then and now how sitting we are asking in we are advising to invest differently and i think it's time also on the government end to say no, this is what some money needs aligned. the investment with the national development now with no home solution that are tailored for local problems and as long as we're not doing that, we will be back on this show in couple of years. talking about the same issue. unfortunately, i think you're right, you're right about are one of the things i keep on you go and read and read right now i day or every one to open and read about do all we leave is the problem. the problem, where are we not talking about the solutions? what are the end, what is being done? even the journalist that report all you report is images of people that are dying at the up book. it's of ah,

lights at them. look at the projects that are wanting that can then be scaled. can we, how equal reporting to be able to see? because at the end of the day, i think when we just report on one side, the east of the ishall, then everybody sees it's doom and gloom. there's nothing that we can do. i think also her asked her if you can, how reality of the news, right. if we were wondering about the famine and drought in small you today, we would be reporting about floods in disease in pakistan today. and if it wasn't about that, it would be about war and war crimes and ukraine. i mean, we don't report all the planes take off and don't crash. that's just the nature of the media, right? yes, but i saw then i think need to challenge ourselves. what is it? n keels to start actually sharing. what are these projects, initiatives that are walking in the ground on ground solution so that they can scale that. okay, good. and doesn't look no less. com melissa, and weak in as them in the projects. i way way i'm gonna set you up. i sent you an

email because i want to bring in some voices from youtube. and you guys gotta hear this. actually some distrust of the n jose in youtube. and nemo, i think you might be best to address this, but um, we have muse yusef, who says only somalia, people can help migration f efforts. hold on, i want to get to the ears as who st says the aid industry has raised billions. where is all that money gone? ah, there's lots of questions about the ngos, the money in a distrust there. kit nemo, can you address that? please? thank you very much i'm i think i think everyone hear the panel on the video some questions. you know, i mean there be the key questions that we need to ask ourselves across the spectrum where the governments don't s o n jose. and i think we really need to critically look at what we've done correctly. and i think we have done a lot rightly because many, many people where we're safe and happy and safe on someone,

it has. it's dependent on aid, any type of a to whether to monitor in development. and i think it's really important we are asking those critical questions across the spectrum. i certainly think the government needs to take a bigger role in ensuring that so the probably finance is kind of someone stand. it's really good to hold each other accountable on. exactly, exactly how that money spent. like i said earlier, what is really important is king at the time in the modeling the finance model, the moment is focused on humanitarian, which is those life saving activities. and i, like i said, the system to him as him system has been a stretch over the last 30 as well. whether it's in constant crisis, in some poor communities, haven't had the time to recover. 2011, you have the standing by the time 2017 hits, people have fairly recovered from the founding and the impact on their livelihood. 201718. 2019. you have the look to my actually definitely to

people's crops 2021 end of 20. 19. you have cobra pandemic, the global over hitting the poor community is far worse. then he'll have the credit crisis. we success update that everything. information is still not full price when now for communities is able to afford the full price of triple o w certain areas in the country. so i think we need to look across the spectrum. we also need to focus on development 8, ensuring that we equally investing development short term, long term recovery plan so that these communities are able to withstand when shortly um and they will inevitably come as well as to her jump in there. yes, i agree with everything and also we, i think these need to look at data science. what is science telling us? let's heat into the warnings even as we are talk about famous droughts. we know

that these already existing data intelligence, satellites, data, we know that this is a, an impending situation. we need also to create accountant accountability across the sectors, including not only the n g us, but even within the united nations, our system within the governments. no one should feel like they are in their home safe and they should not be looked at. i think it's important to, but most importantly, i think i, we also are excluding people that may be part of solving this salad. for example, i think of diaspora, ah, who are people like me, we're house here who have lived in this country's way or we can still i do a bigger part of the and it is a we also missing in for every dollar that is spent on humanitarian $850.00 cent is put aside to do meaning for long term development projects that built in their

resilience that we'd need. and what does the bat resilience look like? it should be a very, a well thought out. and when curator documents that we know, okay, this is how we are going to talk on this. and then when we have records, we how we know what to do, we are collaborating across the stakeholder. we are investing in long term as we do the shorter now think we also leaning in into everybody in the hold on hold on. i'm gonna come to you next week. okay, hold on a 2nd esther. i want to bring in another voice from our community. this is clearness, hickey, and she is a campaigner from a greenpeace africa, and she's talking about solutions as well as her which here sir torrini is going, is not sustainable in the long run. and so my guess should be looking at increasing its at casual productivity. it should be looking at putting in place of policy plans and resource allocation plans that to make sure that its farmers have access

to water. so many things that kinda came in crisis just like if he had to be in a country and african quarantine. it's what he says, his ash thinking. so position of what is important for it's from us to grow food should be looking at for maybe both, such as we're gonna try to lessen the farmers building infrastructure to help comp foreclose his in food waste age and increasing the productivity of keep crow position. so come and fight and we just enhancing security but to for production is okay, and i'm looking at the comments from are you to bodies in that the biggest theme here might be, how can they help? we even have a comment from someone named brad lovely, who says, can't we create a specialized app or use current social media platforms to leak flash match, interested international donors to the most serious cases in somalia. so there spitballing ideas here. i hope you're there at the you when, where it's, it's design to deal with these kind of crises. i'm curious, are you running into any kind of disaster fatigue from international donors and

what do you think can be done or what kind of solutions are you guys talking about? not just for this crisis, but for long term moving forward. oh yes, there are low term solution discussions that are happening and i think people are as right. yeah, i think you know the, the audience that is sending in the messages around. so i think there is a collective fatigue. there's this mistrust around what's happening in somalia. and maybe in the horn across the region in terms of sort of the. ringback issues in why things keep on being the way they are. i think there's a lot of talk down systems that are, that have been in place in somalia, in the submissions and the programming that happened or not necessarily bottom up community lead community owns local government and regional governments

support it. i work at the pilot and it's really difficult to negotiate with partners and funders to actually support the systems that are needed to address these long term issues. i, i do believe that you cannot you can't and you can't talk about solutions without actually building systems are government systems. so mine is government systems over time have eroded and now we are in the back. you know, we're back in trying to build those systems. but yet continuously you see, ah, ah, non governmental entities delivering basic services in the majority of the resources are going towards that. so long term solutions. not only do we need to their patient livelihood and investment in community based programming. we also need to build systems because ultimately it'll, i mean, i'm in new york right now. and, and who delivers, you know, schooling and policing and, and how can the, the local governments do they did the,

the new policies do. but yet, these systems are not being invested to build in long term community resilience. i mean, as far as you know, here in new york, i mean, you can imagine that there's a lot of conversations about getting funds and getting funds and getting funds. but i do think until and unless we go back home in we sit at the table, especially those at the decision making are capacity where they are there is to ensure that whatever funds are coming this year in the, in the, in the years, the come are promoting yes, i got a raffo here work a finally should on a 2nd, but i want to know that al jazeera is going to keep watching this. we know that as we move into october december, they could give much worse fare. if people who look in health programs like well, food program are out there, that's it for now. thank you for joining us. ah

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