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its hope to vote with bridge deep ethnic divides in his balkan country. but when it still bearing the scars of civil war in the 990 s is change possible. what role can outside powers play? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program and hasn't seen a preliminary results from elections in bosnia herzegovina, on sunday, sho, reformists and moderates winning the cro at and bosnian presidential seats. but over war, the outcome is unlikely to bring much change nor movement beyond entrenched divisions in the country. the boat was held to elect 3 members of the shared presidency, plus national and regional parliament. the sub seat remains unclear with both candidates claiming victory. the campaign was dominated by nationalists and
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separatist rhetoric and is seen as the most important vote since the end of the war in 1095. i said, beg, has more for us from sarajevo bosnia and herzegovina has spoken 2 of the 3 seats. the presidential election have gone to reformist moderate candidates. separatist said joke as a van which has won the presidential seat for republic, us ebsco, both bosnia and christ. when it's called for unity and the need to move forward, you won't be nasty. the lives of our people in this country of the most important. and that's why i call on all people to unite, so that the citizens of bosnia and herzegovina will be better off regina, my boss, they have to will negligent congratulations to citizens of bosnia, my name for this victory of my party and myself. now we can really talk about big changes in bosnia coming at the evening was overshadowed by hi representative for bosnia christian schmidt as pulled closed. he announced he would be making changes
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to the constitution electoral law and to the size of the lower parliament with today's decisions. no political party or anybody elected will be hell able to hold the federation hostage and him on the feel was if a quite separate his candidate was elected to the quiet seat, then it would increase tensions. it would have given 2 thirds of the presidency control over specific state institutions. separately. their miller da dick declared victory for the presidency of the republic. a said sca entity is a portrait. i am proud that i was the candidate and now confirmed president of republic obscure. and i will do everything so that republic of soap scar continues to be stable to conduct its own policy to cooperate with our important partners. like serbia, russia and hungry voter turnout was at 50 percent, the lowest the country has seen since after the war that ended in 1995. also some
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obo food awful. i voted that's my duty. but there is no change for the people. it is just a rotation yachting arden law. every change is good if good people are leading. would you no matter if they are red, yellow, white, or blue? if it is good for the country and change will take a great deal of effort from all political parties. politicians in the federation of bosnia and herzegovina faced the same challenges as before the election. they still have to contend with 2 separatists presidents. and although it may be a consolation to some that the set which is correct wasn't elected the constitutional and electoral law changes also being imposed on them by the high representative. someone wasn't, didn't i said vague inside story, very able about the elections are among the most complicated in the world, set up to maintain peace following the breakup of yugoslavia in 1992 and the civil war. the followed at state level. it has a 3 way presidency with each member elected to represent one of 3 ethnic groups. it
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split between eastern orthodox serbs, catholic, crow at and muslim boston, the ex representatives can block legislation passed by the law house if they feel it is against the interests of the group. that's a part of the system often blamed for lack of progress in the country. one body also overseas, the political factions, the office of the high representative is an international initiative put in place in 1995 to ease ethnic divides. the critic say it takes power away from the people while supporters credit with keeping the country together. the well, let's bring in, i guess now to talk more about this in the bosnian capital, sadie able hickman cartridge an academic and also in berlin. we have a bo labor senior associate at democratization policy council. and joining us from
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mostar in bosnia, i'm not popovich a political activist and member of the women waging piece network good to have you with us. so hickman cartridge, let me start by asking you, what do the results of these elections represent to you? well firstly to say that, but it is a, it is really good that the moderate and reformist, or forces have one in the presidency. that isn't the case in the, in the, in the parliament we're at the nationalist parties, one or a majority of the vote. but in the presidency, what was very important is that these forces one, especially in the, in the, in the bosh, nacken, in their cracked members of the presidency. how or what is troubling, is that the serb member of the presidency, danielle cassiano, which belongs to a pro russian serb, separate this party. so what is troubling for me personally,
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is that the boss in e u and need to pack could be endangered, or when having a person such as this and in the presidency in other areas of the, of the federation and entity level and, and in the canton on level we have seen a lot of changes in the sense that some smaller parties have have been some majority of the of the woods. i saw a lot of got a lot of things made me slaten changed. i in, in the sense of internal boss and baltics, but when talking about the state representation and so on, it is good that, that pro bossing forces are still a majority in the presidency boda vega, what, what do you take the knees results how well i would go a tro attention to be a little bit away from the resorts just to note which i think on context important that the political and electro system in boston the as the sign in dayton and
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remain more or less unchanged since the end of the war is not the competitive western democracy, it's a system based on the lines of 3 ethnic oligarchies. and it says such breaks that partial shifts happening from election collection, moving some percentage over to multi ethnic parties, not and cannot lead to a change. so i think and that fence we have not seen the major changes in the election. the one thing that mr. conscious mentioned isn't part and the current geopolitical ukraine war context is that the nationalist pro russian forces, starting where the of the, the sort of member of the main sort party from the republican service and across allies will not have a majority in the 3 member, a president that sets the foreign policy, but apart from that really,
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i would not always stress the results. the main event to my from my point of view. and these election has happened one hour after closing the ballot boxes closing the voting and in bosnia on sunday. and that was the imposition by the high representative of their german christians, made a very dangerous press event in possession of changes to the electro system. one hour after work, which is both by the time incomplete and democratic and by the ration now and the content of this amendments to the electoral and constitutional system of the country is really dangerously going into the wrong direction. yeah, you're talking here about the, the invoice, christian schmidt and they did the changes they, he imposed what he said were measures for improving the functionality of, of government in bosnia. and we can talk more about that in a moment, but i want to get, i'm in a popo vouch, is take on the results and what you, what you draw from this is this, is this a victory for the state a status quo?
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was there more to as michael leaves before said it's mall inside of what is more status call. nothing will change. same far as from ninety's even from 961 the elections, they still continue to to win elections. then they are the biggest coalition. the 1st support each other and they will continue to work inside of the country. the thing we might see, some of the improvements in the foreign policy tanks to the store of civilian no nationalistic members of the presidency. yes. the able to still has this one ration and nationalistic member of the, of the presidency. but i think that she will not be able to do such a mall or
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a lot of car before her. so i expect that much more moments from listeners will be enough from east over the rest. so from russia and 30 heads of the people to should be turned or, or country should be turned now to brussel, e and e. and this is what i expect to see in the next 4 years. the speeds that, that are social democrats have been cheated, which had, at the announcement of his victory was very good. was very healing for everybody who live here. was there sabina and loved in this country, and there are still gods and was this country in the one still have to continue their life here. so there is a glimpse of hope, not no such a vehicle, but still more glimpse of hope for, for the people in this country. think of this members of the presidency everyday.
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life will not be such a different but so we can see the the see our side, there was some, some improvement. this is what the expect to see here. well, let's talk more then about this decision by the hi represented christian schmidt to make changes to, to the the way that the country is governed. and in a way that 11 side cannot act as a, as a veto block on the other. and a point was made by corresponding there in the report to be changes or be made by someone who has not elected by bosnians. is that is that a problem for you met cartridge? well, it is in one way. but what is more shocking is that in this way, know, both ex, especially from the crucial side, will be deeply cemented in the future. so that means that in for your time,
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we will know directly which party will one the, the elections. and that, that is the credit separate as hard as a party. so that is a problem here. instead of going forward the higher present that has decided to even more deepen and cement the, already existing political, ethnic divide. and to have some sort of emphasized politics instead of making much more democrats much more utopian. so instead of having your open values brought into the elections, we're having a much more higher bureaucracy right now. so the, the, the house of peoples, for example, will be able to, to read will be double the size of this now. so we'll have more politicians in power and which means more, more public funds being wasted on that. and secondly, it will be able to, to, to, to, to blockade from certain and political decisions or in, in, to be very frank, it will just hard and the life of, of, boston's,
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in the future about of a. but just to pick up on what you said earlier about the role of the high representative christian schmidt in all of this. and it's on democratic nature. if you will know of those who, who will, will not disagree with you on that point in this is supposed to be a democracy. and this is, this is a floor in that system. but is it a necessary floor in the sense that it ensures the did the deep divisions in the country don't, don't spill over that. there is that kind of level level playing field, that remains what, what do you say to that see, i think the problem here is that, and this is part of the problem where there is a wrong way of intervening by the high representative is that this gives i mean, is from 2 actors in the west and in the southern where the russia, when says that the institution of the high representative should be gone. this is
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not, this is not the course, not the solution. the problem here is the following. the west intervened into their bows. invoice stopped by a dirty agreement with the domestic warring factions by installing a date in constitutional and electro system that is based on ethnic power sharing. this is not them a credit, but this was meant to be a provisional, you know, government and constitutional arrangement to enter or to be later replaced by a, by a, by a democratic functional political system. the problem was that thing that the waste for 3 quarters of a d k after the war has partly reformed and changed that system until december, 2005. but then in the context of war, they were trying to run away from their responsibility and they were trying to leave the country unsustainable. and it's confusion or as it is to the local leads and that has not functioning to thrown back the country into the original modes of
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mutual lifting of ethnic tension as a basic for patronage system of, you know, mutually reinforcing ethnic oligarchy system. and instead of correcting its course, the waste for the last 17 years have been trying to, you know, not see is the responsibility is the size of public policy. but keep a face, the assemblage of a fake stability in bosnia by permanently appeasing nationalist leads and their agenda us. this policy has escalated over the last 2 years with you and low level and us officials wiping out previous red lines when it comes to the defense of democratic principles and in bosnia. and they have started to negotiate on the terms of the because crime nationalist party, the h, the said on the so called the reform of the electro system. now that the negotiations didn't lead to result because the other side,
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particularly the boss next. so what it is giving internationalist agenda that would lead to formalizing the deepening of the ethnic and f churchill divisions in boston and that, but ultimately lead to a break of the country. but as a result of these phase negotiations by having propped up and encouraged the crow nationalist side, we have entered an election where the crow nationalist party threatened with a political crisis after the elections preventing implementation of election results in their political agenda is not probably meant by the west and mr. schmidt . unfortunately bullied by the us administration, which is a really continued on more trump paula administration policy than the bible restoration policy when it comes to democratic while it was has pushed mr. schmidt to partly given to make some decisions that take away the tools for the aged is that to do blockage of implementation of election results and me to prevent a crisis in return for promptly giving into their nationalist months. and it has
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done so. he has tried to do it in the midst of the election campaign, which would have meant changing the rules of the game within the campaign, which is deeply under mckorick, he is now done the worst of both worlds. he started even after the citizens of bosnia an hour after they have finished putting their boats. which means this is both under my credit, and it's not leading to more than i think it's leading to more ethnic oligarchy system that we're really at the country more efficient. let's get, let's get em. popovich popovich is the take on this and the role of christian schmidt here is, is it fun to mentally on democratic a way of just kind of paper over the cracks and appeasing to many people, particularly the nationalist groups. as a boat, a vapor says, ah, it is, but unfortunately his of ours are recent in some pieces, even though there is nothing we can do it at the moment the people was tied to the
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majority of them like to have some office like that. not now it's mr. smith before the 1st. and so i 3 like still have off the office of the height of the sensitive company because nationalistic parties would destroy this country much faster, resulted, nationalistic parties are those parties, while rolling parties for last 30 years are the same ones who participated and one 1st, multi multi part of the elections all during all, like when, when it was approved please independence. so they have on again in 96 from 96. they are winning elections so they cannot expect from the same people who are very politically active before the war. well,
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they're active during the war. we're exit during the signing of these are the demons of some of them. they're involved in internet ocean and now they are all in this country. so how we can expect them to make any change. they don't want to do any change. they want to keep school as long as possible. so there's a reason why they need office of the heart of the sensitive to bring in some changes, some changes the life changes the don't. there are a lot of law, there was no ticket we know perfectly written, but not to implement. so for the, for the mr. smith, decision about changing the election law and partially changing the constitution of the ration of what's going on. let's see. always the work in the ally. let's give it a chance and see how it is that will now block or to gain more in
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the, in the new system. now then when he pulled out some, some real wheels from, from their, their cars. so let's see how it went to where i personally don't like to see have turnage over the was there sabina, that means that we are not democrats and we are not democrats, the country, the just the 3 are like that we have election, but we are not sure that the numbers that are published after the elections are the numbers that the people voted. you know, now there is a question and then there really male or the one the election or his election machine one the election or so there is, there is a big discussion know who really want elections into for and for me is still so the question why he didn't didn't so on
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for the 2nd a 2nd mandate as a member of the presidency because his colleague giana, she was perfectly all. so the question, there is a big question of why he's decided to run just for the member of the president of the country. let's, let's broaden this out a little bit more and talk more about what this means for foreign policy. hickman, i know we kind of touched on this a little bit earlier. but what, what do you think these elections mean for bosnia is foreign policy and the various factions within the country. you mentioned about pro russian sessions and pro pro western factions. well, i mean that the most troubling part for me is that a 2 country supported mirror didax. matt and sir nationalists separate this moment
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and that there is a victor or button from hungary an in vladimir put in for marcia. so distill, so a lot, i mean, if these are 2 people with whom dick met are several days before the election. so several weeks before the elections, that is very, very troubling news. because you know, we have one country which is in fact it was as a member of the e, which is entirely in the far right. sphere. or that is hungary and victor, or bounce a political movement on the other, sorry of a country which is currently involved. busy in an act of aggression war crimes, and it is russia. so we are right now entering a new phase in which probably murder that the will start doing what he has been promising. i his, these voters for long time, and that is who we're done with the support of serbia to, to try and to are now proclaim independence, affordable in serb entity for apopka sub hska and to and to succeed in the near future. and also what is what is important to notice is that the election law which
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was imposed by kristen smith was something which was heavily lobbied by crecia proper. so for the last couple of years, crecia ends in zagreb, has been lobbying different countries, mostly in the united states and in the west to support an election law which would cements of their power sharing a atmosphere in bosnia. and unfortunately, this has happened like a 2 nights, 2 nights earlier, which means that a bus here will in the future, be controlled not only by its neighbors by crow, shown by when bad belgrade, but also deeply influenced by russia, hungary, and in other countries as well all right, so we're going to have to leave it there. thanks very much to all 3 of you. hick met, coach it shit boat away by an am not papa batch. thanks very much, being on inside story and thank you as well for watching. remember, you can see this program again any time just go to our website at g 0 dot com. and
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