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yes, president joe biden says it'll take years for the us state of florida to recover from hurricane ian president visited the state a week after the devastating storm hit. dozens of people died in a hundreds main emergency shelters. biden pledged federal support for rebuilding efforts that are expected a cost billions of dollars. you know, today we have one job and only one job. and that's to make sure the people are far to get everything that they need to fully early recover. we're one of the few nations in the world that on a basis of crisis we face, we're the only nation that comes out of it better than we bought into it. and that's we're going to do this time around. and us astronaut has become the 1st native american woman in space. she's part of the latest crew route to the international space station. 45 year old nick old man is joined by fellow american, josh casado, russian cosmonaut, akina, japanese, astro, calling. you were caught up. it blasted off the kennedy space sent on wednesday,
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a group of spent 6 months on the i assess, ah, type of check. the headlines here on al jazeera, north korea, as 5 to more ballistic missiles towards the east coast comes 2 days after another long range weapon was launched. as the un security council was meeting to discuss tuesdays miss out more were fired on thursday. rob ry reporting for sol says there's been a few this reaction from the government that presidents you took y'all saying that he accepts that this is a very worrying escalation for people in south korea, but at vowing to protect the nation safety. he says, also making reference to the fact that tuesdays launch at 4500 kilometers range a puts the u. s. territory. the island of guam and the western pacific within range with its large military us base is now back in 2017. when relations were just about
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as bad as they have been for decades, the north koreans were making threats against guam. the white house has criticized the opec plus oil producers decision to cut the output, calling it a move that'll hurt the global economy. plus group, which includes russia and saudi arabia, when reduced production by $2000000.00 barrels a day from november. michaela says the division has gone down badly in washington. the reaction has been one of quietly contained theory, not so contained in some ways as being described by the national security advisor, the pick decision as short sighted. but the national security advisor also making clear his belief that by making the decision, saudi arabia as a part of opec rush as a part of opec. saudi arabia is citing with russia. this is something that an accusation that rings very loudly within the united states. russian president
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vladimir putin assigned into law the unexplained a for ukrainian regions, but the kremlin control over those areas as weakened with ukraine's military making gains. boots in says he hopes the situation on the front line will stabilize a rescue. operations been launched in southern greece after migrant bowed, carrying up to a 100 people, hit rocks and sank in high women's official se dozens of people had been rest. right. those are the headlines that he's continues now to 0 after the stream state you've done so much bye. in these turbulent times, up front returns for a new season. join me, mark them on hill as we take on the big issues. they are literally being turned back houses, not contravention of international law. this is exactly the place for us to interrogate people about issue been matter from the state of democracy around the world to the struggles faced by the under represented. the voices have to be brought to the table behalf the manner we have to start to talk about the see here,
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we will challenge the conventional wisdom upfront on al jazeera with high for me. okay, it's elise next, prime minister george ab maloney is an unapologetic conservative who knows exactly what she wants for her country. and how many supporters are behind george maloney, vin serona, ga maloney, i think is one of the few women who can stand up to europe and above all, hold italy up to t o l t. any dalia refusal more to go out? i trust mon only a lot and i'm convinced that she was slowly bring forward the solution to the problem for young people pensioners back and change the whole bureaucratic system, their bubble ro, correct? they know you're out from it all. so lucy, i am a right wing voter and therefore happy to see georgia maloney and government i had the chance to know her when she was younger. and i know that she is
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a democratic person of culture who speaks for languages and is very prepared. the attacks against her are due to jealousy because she is an intelligent, strong, free, and honest woman. on today's episode of the stream, how might italy's new far right government change the country? that is the discussion very welcome to be part of it. the comment section is right here. look forward to hearing from you. ah, welcome to barbara marina, federico. it's good to have all 3 of you here. barbara. wonderful to have you on the stream. interesting capacity. i know many of our viewers will recognize. you tell everybody who you are and what you do now. thanks for me. it's great to be with you. my name is barbara shire. i'm an italian born journalist space and london . i used to present the news and be a correspondent for al jazeera for 16 years and al jazeera, i made the film fascism. we're going to see a little bit of that in just a moment. but 1st, let's say hello to marina marina. welcome to the stream. these introduce yourself
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say hello to have us. hi everyone that thank you for letting me hear them in a new, maybe not cheating, but yet i know i am a political economy than their work with politics that you standing alone. so good to have you and federico, welcome to you as well. please say i like to have you as around the world. hello everybody. my name is really, i'm a journalist from a newspaper i'm. i'm a session economics journalist. good to have all 3 of you. we also reached out to the brothers of italy, party to see if they would be part of our program. we didn't get a response from them, but we will be featuring their voices that comments in today show. let's stop bubble with this idea of being a fascist and fascism in the years since fascism was spreading across europe, it's become more of
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a pejorative term. i'm wondering if we've lost the context of what it means in italy. let me start with montero. first of all, a terrorist honey, psalms out quite nicely. and i'd love for you to just build off the back of him. what has been a fascist mean in italy today? his material festival. my peers, our those consider fascism. anything that is her and the sub richmond, conservative, nationalistic, so it's clear that the wall is completely lost. it's me. on my dad's side though, i strongly believe the italy cannot grow. it's so fast to rule. so without breaking off the italian, low, the, or below, and the international low. so i don't feel that a problem with the war about i suspect if i asked every italian, then we can, we have completely different also. but what is your answer? what is it? well, i mean my answer is that fascism is an opinion it's, it's
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a crime initially and, and, and that's the way that it should be seen. i mean i remember i sort of decided to make the film fascism in the family. what actually the word fascism kept on being used in english rather than italian and i feel sometimes over used like anything and everything was a fascist. so listen, i think the key thing about brother is a visually and, and george maloney is that they have links specific links and their routes are in a neo fascist party. that began after world war 2. the so called m. m a cy without getting to, to maybe to so that specific about her and the party so much so that the logo of that party from, from an after world war 2 is still part of their branding. now, i mean, i wouldn't say it's a controversial thing, you know, fascism is illegal and certainly any attempt at reconstituting the party is illegal . i think that there's a lot of things that i noticed while i made the film, for example, that there would be to trickle people just always going to most of the news grave
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to kind of pay their respects. so i think some of the, you know, i don't think that all italians have quite bell to with their history. but i do think we need to be careful about using the word fascism. and to me, you know, for fashion to be president, or at least, you know, to be fully involved, you need violence and you need that violence to be used as a threat to democracy. federico, i see you nodding, articulate, you're not, go ahead. well, i don't, i don't quite understand whether the question is if we think that church i'm alone is attached or not. i think it's a question definitely worth asking. and probably the 1st thing i would save the question, i would say that i think one of her successes that she has managed to make it in polite to ask her whether she's a fascist or, or how she relates to her cautious route. because she becomes
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very easily impatient and that for the baby, i will say it is a little bit. it has these appeared a little bit from italy. i would say that she's there currently a right wing populated. she has been right when populists for a number of years in the mall of sorry, donald trump. bannon. and in the mall of maybe vox and spain. and now they're right. we populous parties across europe, across the world, across the way. and if you look at her article, finally in europe, we're talking about low injustice cold on the tory party in britain. and, and there are 2 guys, so ok. i think she has showed sympathy for 3rd period. she has invited,
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for instance, week or, or bon were trans, it's very often. but i think we need to move a little bit forward and move on from about the trashes of the 19 days and get i think straight into the debate as to where there are federal. can you read you loud and mean i'm wondering then what kind of conservatism does maloney presents for italians? what's attractive for italians about? yeah, i think that you know what the use of ada active. i mean, having say that i do agree with the say today, but i think we should also focus on the 15th of use, the, the, the, you show the,
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the beginning of the, the show. so white people and voltage on what people are. so, i mean, knowing, and it seems to me that you know, fast, seasonal, conservative sound, so much nation and what we have that well, you know, she's close to the needs of people and maybe she can do something for my electricity because she's a woman. she's been here and i mean, and i'm not giving any judgment to these. i'm just saying that you know, the owner of people you need that he went talking about the job done on the ease, you know, not so much to was you know, and then the next month. but i still. busy walked in on the bases of the guy being fascism and i think that you know now, and he's the most important question that i mean at what kinds of, you know, at the time that she managed to capture the work, you know,
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all of them both she she got that i did clear that and the majority of, you know, not the majority of the but the big of all the votes of maloney it is. but all the votes of i still not to fall she's, she's still, she's the both. these are really, you know, she's the only one the latter in the sense that, you know, she has a bit of a dog list that i am alone now. so that i really, i think we've tried, we've tried everybody else. let's try a flavor that we haven't tried to play because we haven't tried for some time. let me push on a little bit because i don't want to just talk about maloney's roots. i want to talk about how she will lead. so i'm going to go back to a documentary that you bob, where you made in 2019, where you will looking not just that it leaves and it leaves move to the fall, right. but connecting back to your family as well. and you went to maloney,
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raleigh in 2019 when she wasn't even pulling that high. but what do we see here? do we think leadership here that come look these are the brother is of it. the country 2nd largest tar right party, georgia. maloney is the leader in today. she's issuing a clarion call from europe behind the proverbs a screen nationalist with i suspect when maloney says our identity, she doesn't include the farm workers. i met in full year. and where is the country's fascist history to be found in her notion of to find some over there? real changes for italy right now. there's
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a column it economic challenges cove. it is still around to pick. people still cobra coat, covey, their health challenges as a lot to cope with. how is maloney going to change what she does on the stage, any rallies into leading a country or she's gonna have to be pragmatic, isn't she? and for example, you know, we know that she's had some meetings with mario that i gave, of course, led the country up until, you know, the, the elections. and now the new government comes because this is a tricky situation. italy also needs to access a lot of money the has given it to kind of get back on its feet after cove it. so i think, you know, i think we're going to see a pragmatic maloney. i think we will see the kind of signal that her presence will give to the rest of the european countries. but i think practicality in and, you know, obviously at the other guests will know more, especially at the times when based in italy. but you know, she's going to have to be practical and i think getting the economy to be stable is
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the most important thing. i mean remember that one of the main reasons that maloney took the power because it's interesting when, when i made the feel, we almost didn't go to the maloney rally because me in the produce we're going nash is pulling at 4 percent. we don't need to go there. and then thankfully our director made us and you know, that was only 2019 and look how she skyrocketed. i'm in the polls and that is because she was the only opposition party to cove it. so when a lot of unpopular measures are being pushed through whether it was locked down or easily had very strict vaccination rules, for example, where you couldn't even go in to restroom if you could surely re vaccinated. she capitalized on all of that. so look, you know, that there's a lot of reasons. remember, 7000000 people voted for maloney and abstention remains really the one window of these of these elections which is worrying in itself. so i think when it comes to the economy, we may see her be a bit more traditional that we may think or you know,
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working with in europe. it'll be interesting to see what she does on issues like migration. obviously a key, a key issue for the far right and issues like the rights of minorities. maria, go ahead. yeah. when even better, we can go 2nd. yeah, yeah. yeah. yeah, the interesting thing is that the molina we saw in 2019 might be despite to herself. and despite the way she would like to be, she might be removed from the kind of leader that will have to manage the country. because we're talking about project country for not sure respect, you know, in the middle of up, in the midst of a serious crisis. that is the recent war on the continent. the recent economic war, an energy war going on with russia with energy prices are tenfold.
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does have grown tenfold from a couple of years ago. we interest rates going up and this kaleisha for julia was talking about. so we're talking about a leader that was calling for the euro to be dismembered just a few years ago. she gave an interview like 15 a months ago, not 15 years, but 15 months ago, or no question in the europe. and now she's standing for are also looks fiscal policies. so what does that mean? and from what i hear, she's looking for technocrats to run the most sensitive ministries. so the finance ministry, the energy ministry, the health ministry. it's like an admission that she doesn't have the personnel. she doesn't have the competency nor party, and act, frankly, she doesn't have to write proposals the right ideas to run the scatter. so this
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is also fascinating because it's not the 1st case of a populist the screen some yales in public squares. but the mean it, she has to take responsibility. this kind of populist leader, her becomes scared. okay, let me tell you that we can i run the car in her place. i that we can. i hear. i also want to spend some time with our audience who are watching you right now. this is 11 says that labels don't matter. what's my thing is that maloney loves a country and wants to save a country from global if that is one perspective. and then another perspective here is concerned about how she might treat migrants coming to italy. i am wondering again, ah marina, about turning what you say for a campaign into leadership. how will maloney cope from your perspective?
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yeah, well in this moment i mean what we know is that the scenes to the election in the middle in it as a very, very low profile, or let's say no, it's not anymore the maloney that we saw in 2009 in good evening and yeah, but the 5 and new, she's a spending all the time at eating economy. yeah. and as for that, he was saying, you know, if it's quite a candidate to the, to seek that i am making is a key argument against the if they can look out the government now, you know that i support high and they can look at the expense and also i think the and the guy that goes to the for the your own. busy maloney and so for the man and g to it asheville,
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and then social of i p and the union and i see that we still have to see who will be that means that the most important in the area. so i'm feel that we don't know who will be there, so my phone on me and then the science and the, i don't think it, we can really the of the go button, the medium declination, but also in the over all of my knowing, i mean it's clear that in this moment that the but i already design and you know, i'm not sure why you know, how much the diamond maloney is going to spend in these moments. so show that i, i mean it's a very nice to see that, you know, she's really walking, you know, waving it is a, put you in this moment. so let me read for
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a 2nd because i'm hearing is that she is actually knocking off on the door so many of the spectrum rights and asking them to you know, get on to work for her. and she is getting a lot of refusals because the credibility pro is not there. and. and so did this kind of lead the rose a criticizing. the technocrats creatures criticizing mainstream policy making is now desperate. who have those people on her site and she's not managing. that's the fascinating thing and like we're talking about migration, but at the very same people who voted for her, you know, the small entropy, nursing, norton, eastern italy. they do want economic immigration because they cannot find personnel, they can all find people. right. that erica, i'm gonna, i'm gonna bounce off. i'm going to bounce off what you are saying that because and i appear as an assistant professor at the scholar normal,
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i suppose. and he talks about some of the most conservative policies that maloney has and he's very worried about them and what that may turn it into. this is what he told us. any da da maloney contained on the far right platform. she wants to block all the migration coming from normally, european countries are social conservative agenda is likely to further come the rights of n g, b, t 2 people in access to abortion should she succeed in implementing our platform. italy mans up looking like a light version of hungary, under or bun, or poland under kuchinski. therefore, a looming prospects for the quality of democracy in the country. are we here? is that a concern for? for cities, you could not, you cannot be complacent in front of those risks. of the same time
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i would say maybe to lee is to may see a country and to accustomed to its freedoms and also a country with a very strong constitutional framework within the country and a very strong attachment to european rules. so i don't think it would be easy to move italy into any leave or sorry, durham county, i don't think people who voted for her both for that agenda. they voted for her to express her front door for state frustration. but i'm not sure the means she tries to move italy in that direction should be the popular or so for the moment. you should be complacent. i'm not complacent. but i see her be embarrassment because she screamed a yell as i said, but now it's the moment of truth and she doesn't know who to talk to the wrong
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discount. and you know way, if it weren't so serious, it will be even funny. it is a lesson for all populists out there, so easy to scream when, when you are in a position, but then you have to take things seriously and she doesn't know how to do that. let's go back to maloney and this is from august when she was on the campaign trail and then because she's claiming that she definitely has a presence on stage and it's a very loud presence. just remind us of what she's like when she has a big audience, who is enjoying what she says. and then i'm just going to go back to barbara and asked about what you think may will happen next. with very bold politician. i don't mind i. i am not afraid i am ready to leave this battle. the question is, are you ready? is the nation ready to question itself on the reasons why
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a movement like brothers of italy is talked about every day as if it were a monster in the newspapers while it's estimated to have the support of 25 percent of italian fema barbara. what so, i mean it's interesting when you said a clip from the summer, i thought you were going to show another one where she was speaking in spain and very much went into the full flow of sounding a little bit for terry. and there, i think there are serious questions that people can have about brothers with it. and it's not just the past. it's not just that it's region, a neo fascist party or comments that she made maybe in 1096 praising mostly. i mean, the truth is that there are still members of the party and some quite high up that will for example, celebrate key dates in the sort of, you know, saline. the diary that will do a fascist salute. liam was built in honor of someone who's effectively a war crime from world war 2 seen are the question marks that people have about maloney. it's not just the, you know,
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it's not invented and it's on just based in the past. there were recorded incidents of things that are happening now or have happened we recently and what i found really fascinating following both what she was saying on the italian campaign trail and then to the, you know, international but really english language press was how she was definitely trying to tone down her image and to try to convince the international community that she is a serious interlocutor and that, that she would be a serious leader or visually i, you know, i think the word for that eco use there is not to be complacent. one of the things that i'll be looking out for is how they treat the sent, especially dissent when it comes to journalism. because italy is the only country in europe, or a journalist is under police protection because of threats from neo fascist. so from the far right, most of the journalists under police protection are under protection because of the mafia. so it's things like that, you know, it, it's the little things that i think all of us have to be careful about and just keep an eye on. when it comes to brothers eventually and the future government that
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they may form, i'm going to leave with one more with this was his and i am all a who despite seeing all of the concern about what maloney may well bring to it, he doesn't think that she is able to break italy 7, listen to you picking your skepticism in italy, which is out to remind everybody the 2nd military power and 3rd larger economy could damage the union beyond repair, with consequences that will, will feel ill. so in the u. s, i can see how all this can be cause a concern. however, so far georgia maloney seems to have signal. ready willingness to act in continuity with my doggy and reassure everybody to the country will be loyal to nato and eve. thank you to everybody have joined us on your chair. the debate continues anew. chief barbara molina federally can, thanks to being part of today's chat. appreciate it. as he next time, hey cathy, buddy ah,
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