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is able to act on against me on this side for infractions taken on act. alec baldwin has settled a wrongful death lawsuit with the family of a woman. he accidentally shot dead last year. the cinematographer helena hutchins died and film some new mexico in october on to baldwin 5 pro gun family said safety protocols went off, followed lewis, and filming will resume in january. helena's husband, matthew hutchins, will now be an executive producer of the film on receive a portion of the profits and u. s. ass notes has become the 1st native american woman in space. she is part of the latest crew heading to the international space station. 45 year old nicole man is joined by fellow american josh casado russian cosmonaut. anna kina, japanese astro quit cheat or casa. they blasted off from the kennedy space center in florida on wednesday. the group will spend 6 months on the i s s.
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ah. ok, let's going to recap of your top headlines. at least 31 people, including 23 children, have been killed and a shooting. ne, in thailand. it happened at a day care center in non guar lamp, who i media is reporting the government killed himself and his wife and child tony chang has moved the story. we understand that the emergency services were 1st alerted at 1230 local time. that's about 2 and a half hours ago. with the reports of a disturbance this daycare center in omaha and known bottom ports of province. in the northeast of thailand, we understand that now there are more than 31 fatalities, including a large number of children. ukraine is blaming russia for shelling several residential buildings in the southern city of zappa asia. the regions governor says
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2 people have been killed rescuers of digging out survivors from the rumble. north korea's launch to short range ballistic missiles that were fired thursday morning from the samsung area in pyongyang towards the northeast. a white house is criticizing the decision by the wells. oil produces to cut output saying that it is short sighted and the global economy, mpeg plus group, which includes russian. saudi arabia will reduce production by 2000000 barrels a day. from november. our priority now is stabilizing marked. now we could be accused of wanting to influence market in a negative way. everybody's brought you and others would see how we conduct our self in the months to come. human rights groups have accused iranian authorities of using excessive and lethal force against anti government protesters
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. human rights watch says at least 27 people have been killed, the cracked down, the death of 22. your masa many in police. custody is aunt more than 2 weeks of unrest. you as president joe biden says, they will take years for the u. s. days of florida to recover from hurricane ian. thousands of people died. hundreds remained in emergency shelters. odd and pledge, federal support for rebuilding efforts. okay, those the headlines coming up next the stream. ah, which is here? with oh,
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hi, i me okay. it's a lease next prime minister jaw job. maloney is an unapologetic conservative who knows exactly what she wants for her country and how many supporters are behind george maloney events. so now ga maloney, i think, is one of the few women who can stand up to europe and above all, hold italy up little, you know, 20 dalia refusal more to go out. but trust me a lot. and i'm convinced that she will slowly bring forward the solution to the problem for young people pensioners and change the whole bureaucratic system, their bubble broke up. they know you're out from it all. so lucy, i am a right wing voter and therefore happy to see georgia maloney and government i had the chance to know her when she was younger. and i know that she is a democratic person of culture who speaks for languages and is very prepared. the attacks against her are due to jealousy because she is an intelligent, strong, free, and honest woman. on today's episode, off the stream,
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how might italy's new far right government change the country? that is the discussion very welcome to be part of it. the comment section is right here. look forward to hearing from you. welcome to barbara marina. federico is good to have all 3 of you here, barbara. wonderful to have you on the stream. interesting capacity. i know many of our viewers will recognise you tell everybody who you are and what you do now. thanks for me. it's great to be with you. my name is barbara shire. i'm an italian born journalist faced london. i used to present the news and be a correspondent for al jazeera for 16 years, and at al jazeera, i made the film fascism. we're gonna see a little bit of that in just a moment, but 1st, let's say hello to marina marina. welcome to the stream. these introduce yourself say, hello travis, i am the one that thank you for having me here. them in a me and maybe not she, you know, but yet i little, i am a full, you can call them,
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you can work with all the things that you see and in allow them. so good to have you and federico, welcome to you as well. please highlight to have he was around the welt, hello, have about my name is for that he could be an am a journalist. i'm gonna editor a large where they say it would just be tele sleeping newspaper. and now i'm a sensor. any comics journalist i could have all 3 of you. we also reached out to the brothers of italy, party to see if they will be part of our program. we didn't get a response from them, but we will be featuring their voices that comments in today's show. that stopped. baba was this idea of being a fascist and fascism in the years since fascism was spreading across europe. it's become more of a projective term. i'm wondering if we've lost the context of what it means in italy. let me start with material festival. a terrorist,
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honey. some the out quite nicely. and i'd love to just build off the back of him. what has been a fashion mean in italy today? his material festival might be of level those consider fascism. anything that is under stablish ment, consolidate, nationalistic. so it's clear that the wall is completely lost, its meaning on my side, though, i strongly believe that easily cannot call it fashion for without breaking down a little below the international. so i don't think that's a problem we should want about. i suspect if i asked every italian, then we can, we have completely different also. but what is your answer? what is it? well, i mean my answer is that fascism is an opinion it's, it's a crime initially and, and, and that's the way that it should be seen. i mean i remember i sort of decided to make the film fascism in the family. when actually the word fascism kept on being
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used in english rather than italian and i feel sometimes over used like anything and everything was a fascist. so listen, i think the key thing about brother is a visually and, and george maloney's that they have links, specific links and their routes are in a neo fascist party. that began after world war 2. the so called m. m a cy without getting to, to maybe to so that specific about her and the party so much so that the logo of that party from, from an after world war 2 is still part of their branding. now, i mean, i wouldn't say it's a controversial thing, you know, fascism is illegal and certainly any attempt at reconstituting the party is illegal . i think that there's a lot of things that i noticed while i made the film, for example, that there would be to trickle people just always going to saline these graves to kind of pay their respects. so i think some of the, you know, i don't think that all italians have quite bell to with their history. but i do
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think we need to be careful about using the word fascism. and to me, you know, for fashion to be president, or at least, you know, to be fully involved, you need violence and you need that violence to be used as a threat to democracy. federico, i see you nodding, articulate, you're not, go ahead. i don't, i don't quite understand whether the question is on. if we think that george maloney is a fascist or not, i think it's a question definitely worth asking. and for the 1st thing i would say, if that's the question, i would say that i think one of her successes is that she has managed to make it impolite to ask her whether she's a fascist or how she relates to her tosh. just routes because she becomes very easily impatient. and that's a debate that i would say it is
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a little bit. it has these appear to be for me. i would say that she's definitely a right wing populated. she has been a right wing populate for a number of years in the mall of sorry, donald trump, or in the mall of maybe walk insane and other right, being populous parties across europe, across the web, across the west. and if you look at her particular family in europe, we're talking about low injustice in poland, the tory party in britain and, and other parties of doc guy. so ok. i think she has showed sympathy for terry and she has invited for instance, week or, or bon we're part the contrast is very often but i think we need to
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move a little bit forward and move on from the be about the trashes of the 19 thirties and get, i think straight into the debate as to whether we can give you loud and mean i'm wondering then what kind of conservatism does maloney presents for italian? what's attractive for italians about? yeah, i think that you know, what is of either at the active a mean having say that i do agree to say to the other, but they think we should go so far. and the different views that the you show the, the beginning of the show. so white people voltage, you know what people so enjoy knowing. and it seems to me that you know,
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fast will put on sounds so much nation and what we have that well, you know, she's close to the needs of people and maybe she can do something for my electricity because she's a woman and she's been here and i mean, i'm not giving any judgment to these. i'm just saying that, you know, the owner of people, you need that when talking about the, the job done and on the ease, you know, not so much to was you know, and then that next month. but i still. busy walked in on the basis that ago and i think that, you know, nowadays is the most important question that i mean at what kind of, you know, at the school time says she managed to capture the work guy and you know, all of them both she, she guessed that i did clear that and the majority of, you know, not them. 2 and he did, but the big part of the votes of maloney is that the voltage is still not
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a fast she's, she's still 5. she's the both. these are really, you know, she's the only one left in the sense that i said that you know, she has a bit of a dog. i maloney now so that really i think highest success. we've tried. we've tried everybody else. let's try a flavor that we haven't tried flavor policies. we haven't tried for some time. let me push on a little bit because i don't want to just talk about maloney's roots. i want to talk about how she will lead. so i'm going to go back to a documentary that you bob, where you made in 2019, where you will looking not just that it leaves and it leaves move to the fall, right. but connecting back to your family as well. and you went to maloney, raleigh in 2019 when she wasn't even pulling that high. but what do we see here? do we think leadership here that kind of look these are the brother is of it.
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the country 2nd largest star, right party, georgia, maloney is the leader in today. she's issuing a clarion call from europe to get behind the proverbs a screen national misinger with i suspect when maloney says our identity, she doesn't include the farm workers. i met in full year and where is the country's fascist history to be found in her notion of defining the mom of their real changes for italy right now there's a column it economic challenges i, cove it is still around to pick people still cobra coat, covey their health challenges as a lot to cope with. how is maloney going to change what she does on the staging
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rallies into leading a country or she's gonna have to be pragmatic, isn't she? and for example, you know, we know that she's had some meetings with mario, their id, of course, lead the country up until you know, the, the elections. and now the new government comes because this is a tricky situation. italy also needs to access a lot of money the has given it to kind of get back on its feet after cove it. so i think, you know, i think we're going to see a pragmatic maloney. i think we will see the kind of signal that her presence will give to the rest of the european countries. but i think practicality in and, you know, obviously at the other guests will know more especially of the times when based in italy. but you know, she's going to have to be practical and i think getting the economy to be stable is the most important thing. i mean remember that one of the main reasons that maloney took to power because it's interesting when, when i made the film,
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we almost didn't go to the maloney rally because me in the produce we're going nash is pulling at 4 percent. we don't need to go there. and then thankfully our director made us and you know, that was only 2019 and look how she skyrocketed. i'm in the polls and that is because she was the only opposition party to cove it. so when a lot of unpopular measures are being pushed through whether it was locked down or easily had very strict them vaccination rules, for example, where you couldn't even go in to restroom if you could surely re vaccinated. she capitalized on all of that. so look, you know, that there's a lot of reasons. remember, 7000000 people voted for maloney and abstention remains really the one window of these of these elections which is worrying in itself. so i think when it comes to the economy, we may see her be a bit more traditional that we may think or you know, working with in europe. it'll be interesting to see what she does on issues like migration. obviously a key, a key issue for the far right and issues like the rights of minorities. maria,
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go ahead. yeah. yeah. we need a better we can you go 2nd? yeah, yeah. yeah. yeah, the interesting thing is that the military that we saw in 2019 might be despite to herself. and despite the way she would like to be, she might be removed from the kind of leader that will have to manage the country. because we're talking about projects, country, and financial respects, you know, in the middle of up, in the midst of a serious crisis. that is the recent war on the continent. the recently economy war, an energy war going on with russia with energy prices are tenfold. does have grown tenfold from a couple of years ago. we interest rates going up and this flash
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refrigerator was talking about. so we are talking about a leader that was calling for the euro to be dismembered. just a few years ago, she gave an interview like 15 months ago, not 15 years, but 15 months ago you know, questioning the euro. and now she's standing for a also looks fiscal policies. so what does that mean? and from what i hear, she's looking for technocrats to run the most sensitive ministries. so the finance ministry, the energy ministry, the health ministry. it's like an admission that she doesn't have the personnel. she doesn't have the competency nor party. and frankly, she doesn't have the right proposals, the right, a d. s to run this cancer. so this is also fascinating because it's not the 1st case of our populist, the screams and yells in public squares. but the mean it,
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she has to take responsibility. this kind of pocket leader becomes scared. ok now that we can become in her place. i federico, i, he, i also want to spend some time with our audience who are watching you right now. this is 11 says that labels don't matter. what's my thing is that maloney love to country and what's the safe, a country from globally, that is one perspective. and then another perspective here is concerned about how she might treat migrants coming to italy. i am wandering again. marina, about turning what you say for a campaign into leadership, how will maloney cope from your perspective? yeah, but in these moments i mean what we know is that the election,
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the maloney as a very, very low profile, let's say no. it's not anymore than maloney that we saw in 2009 in good evening and yeah, but the new, she's a spending all the time at eating economy. yeah. and that was a saying, you know, if it's quite a candidate and a full produce to seek that i making the key argument against the if they can look out the government. and now we're using all porter high and over and they couldn't get out at all. so i think the guy goes to the for the yard over maloney enzyme. and so for the man and g to ash social that i use a p on the union. and i think we still have to see who will be the
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meanest, the most important. and so i feel that we don't know who will be there me. so my phone on me ending and the science, and i don't think it, we can be an idea of the go button, a medium declination, about those of the, the be in the, the 40 because over all of my knowing, i mean, it's clear that in these moments and you know, i'm not so sure you know how much the diamond maloney is going to buy and in these moments in social about the, i mean it's a very nice to see that, you know, she's really walking, you know, waving it is a put all you in this moment, so let's work for a 2nd. yeah. because i'm hearing is that she is actually knocking on the door so many of those back crafts and asking them to, you know,
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get on to work for her. and she can get a lot of refusals because the credibility pro is not there. and, and so did this kind of lead and the rose a criticizing, the technocrats creatures criticizing. mainstream policymaking is now desperate. have those people on her side and she's not managing, that's the boston asian thing. and like we're talking about migration. but the very same people who voted for her, you know, the small entropy, nursing north, eastern italy. they do want economic immigration because they can off fine personnel, they can all fine people say that erica, i'm going to but i'm going to bounce over. i'm going to bouts of what you were saying there because and i a piano is an assistant professor at the scholar normalized support. and he talks about some of the most conservative policies that maloney has and he's very worried about them. and what
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that may turn italy into, this is what he told us earlier today, maloney complained on the far right platform. she wants to block all immigration coming from non european countries. in social conservative agenda is likely to further come the rides of and g. b, did you, i people in access to abortion, should she succeed in implementing our platform? italy mans up looking like a light version of hungary under open or poll under, under kuchinski. therefore a looming prospects for the quality of democracy in the country. or is that a concern for for seduce? you could not, you cannot be completion in front of those risks of the same time. i would say, ah, maybe italy is too massy country to accustom to its freedoms and also
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a country with a very strong constitutional framework within the country and a very strong attachment to european rules. so i don't think it would be easy to move italy into any labor and also returned country. i don't think people who bought for her bosses for the agenda. they voted for her to express her 1st dollar frustrate frustration. but i'm not sure the means she tries to move italy in that direction. she will be the port or so for the moment. you should be complacent . i'm not complacent. but i see her be embarrassment because she screamed a yell of they said that, but now it's the moment of truth and she doesn't know who to turn to the wrong discount train you know, way if you to are. and so serious it will be even funny. it is our lesson for all
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populists out there. so easy to scream when, when you are in a position, but then you have to take things seriously and she doesn't know how to build us. let's go back to maloney and that is from august when she was on the campaign trail and because she's screaming, but she definitely has a presence on stage and it's a very loud presence. just remind us of what she's like when she has a big audience, who is enjoying what she says. and then i'm just going to go back to barbara barbara about what you think may will happen next with this very bowl politician. let's take a look. i don't mind i. i am not afraid i am ready to leave this battle. the question is, are you ready? is this nation ready to question itself on the reasons why a movement like brothers of italy is talked about every day. i said people are a monster in the newspapers while it's estimated to have the support of 25 percent of italian fema barbara.
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what so? i mean, it's interesting when you said eclipse from the summer, i thought you were going to show another one where she was speaking in spain and very much went into the full flow of sounding a little bit of forward terry. and there, i think there are serious questions that people can have about brothers with it. and it's not just the past. it's not just that it's rude in any fashion party or comments that she made maybe in 1096 praising mostly. i mean, the truth is that there are still members of the party and some quite high up that will for example, celebrate key dates in the sort of, you know, saline. the diary that will do a fascist salute. liam was built in honor of someone who's effectively a war crime from world war 2 scene or the question marks of people have about maloney. it's not just the, you know, it's not invented and it's on just based in the past. there were recorded incidents of things that are happening now or have happened we recently and what i found really fascinating following both what she was saying on the italian campaign trail
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and then to the, you know, international but really english language press was how she was definitely trying to tone down her image and to try to convince the international community that she is a serious interlocutor and that, that she would be a serious leader or visually i, you know, i think the word for that eco use there is not to be complacent. one of the things that i'll be looking out for is how they treat the sent, especially dissent when it comes to journalism. because italy is the only country in europe, or a journalist is under police protection because of threats from neo fascist. so from the far right, most of the journalists under police protection are under protection because of the mafia. so it's things like that, you know, it, it's the little things that i think all of us have to be careful about and just keep an eye on when it comes to brothers of italy and the future government that they may form. i'm going to leave with one more with this was his and i am all a who despite seeing all of the concern about what maloney
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may well bring to it, he doesn't think that she is able to break italy 7. listen to this. you picking your skepticism in italy, which is how to remind everybody, the 2nd military power in their larger economy could damage the union beyond repair, with consequences that will will feel dell. so in the u. s, i can see how all this can be cause a concern. however, so far ga, milanni seems to have signal. ready willingness to act in continuity with my baggy and reassure, every body dick, the country will be loyal to nato and the evil. thank you to everybody have joined us on your chance. the debate continues anew. che barbara molina. federico, thanks for being part of the day, shall appreciate it as he next time. hey, cathy, buddy, ah, 18 months after mia mars military. cool. the balance of power is shifting us.
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