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the great deluge on al jazeera had hi uh, emmy. okay, it's elise next, prime minister george ab maloney is an unapologetic conservative. he knows exactly what she wants for her country. and at many supporters are behind george maloney. vince ona ga maloney, i think, is one of the few women who can stand up to europe and above all, hold italy up to t o l t. any dalia be feasible to go out? i trust mine only a lot and i'm convinced that she will slowly bring forward the solution to the problem for young people, pensioners that and change the whole bureaucratic system trouble rule, correct? they know you're out from it all. so lucy, i am a right wing voter and therefore happy to see ga, maloney and government. i had the chance to know her when she was younger, and i know that she is

a democratic person of culture who speaks for languages and is very prepared. the attacks against her are due to jealousy because she is an intelligent, strong, free, and honest woman. on today's episode of the stream, how might italy's new far right government change the country? that is the discussion by welcome to be part of it. the comment section is right here. look forward to hearing from you. ah, welcome to barbara marina, federico. it's good to have all 3 of you here. barbara. wonderful to have you on the stream. interesting capacity. i know many of our viewers will recognize. you tell everybody who you are and what you do now. thanks for me. it's great to be with you. my name is barbara shire. i'm an italian born journalist based in london . i used to present the news and be a correspondent for al jazeera for 16 years and al jazeera, i made the film fascism. we're going to see a little bit of that in just a moment. but 1st, let's say hello to marina marina. welcome to the stream. these introduce yourself

say hello to have you us. hi everyone that thank you for having me here. my name is a maybe not she, you know, but yet i know i am a full you can call me on the work. um, you can call it exists. yeah, yeah, i mean, i was on. so good to have you and federico, welcome to you as well, please. i like to have you as around the world. hello everybody. my name is really, i'm a journalist. i'm on a newspaper and i'm a session economics journalist. it's have all 3 of you. we also reached out to the brothers of italy, party to see if they would be part of our program. we didn't get a response from them, but we will be featuring their voices that comments in today show. let's stop bubble with this idea of being a fascist and fascism in the years since fascism was spreading across europe. it's become more of

a pejorative term. i'm wondering if we've lost the context of what it means in italy. let me start with montero. first of all, a terrorist, honey sums out quite nicely. and i'd love you to just build off the back of him. what has been a fascist mean in italy today? his material festival by p or some of those consider fascism. anything that is her and the sub richmond, conservative, nationalistic. so it's clear that the world is completely lost. it's me. on my dad's side though, i strongly believe that the italy cannot grow. it's so fashion to rule, so without breaking off the italian, low, the below, and the dimensional low. so i don't feel that a problem we should whar about i suspect if i asked every italian they would give me have completely different also. but what is your answer? what is a? well, i mean my answer is that fascism is an opinion it's, it's

a crime initially and, and, and that's the way that it should be seen. i mean i remember i sort of decided to make the film fascism in the family when actually the word fascism kept on being used in english rather than italian. and i feel sometimes over use like anything and everything was a fascist. so listen, i think the key thing about brothers a visually and, and ga maloney, is that they have links, specific links and their routes are in a neo fascist party. that began after world war 2. the so called m. m a cy without getting to, to maybe to so that specific about her and the party so much so that the logo of that party from, from an after world war 2 is still part of their branding. now, i mean, i wouldn't say it's a controversial thing, you know, fascism is illegal and certainly any attempt at reconstituting the party is illegal . i think that there's a lot of things that i noticed while i made the film, for example, that there would be to trickle people just always going to most of the knees grave

to kind of pay their respects. so i think some of the, you know, i don't think that all italians have quite bell to with their history. but i do think we need to be careful about using the word fascism. and to me, you know, for fashion to be president, or at least, you know, to be fully involved, you need violence and you need that violence to be used as a threat to democracy. federico, i see you nodding, articulate, you're not, go ahead. i don't, i don't understand whether the question is if we think that church, i'm alone is a fascist or not. i think it's a question definitely worth asking. and probably the 1st thing i would say if the question i would say that i think one of her successes is she has managed to make it in polite to ask her whether she is a fascist or, or how she relates to her cautious route. because she becomes

very easily impatient and that's for debate. i will say it is a little bit. it has, these appeared a little bit from italy. i would say that she's there currently or right wing populated. she has been right when popular for a number of years in the mall of sorry, donald trump banner anywhere in the mall of maybe vox and spain. and now they're right, being populous parties across europe, across the world, across the way. and if you look at her political finally in europe, we're talking about low injustice call on the tory party in britain and, and there are 2 kinds. so, okay. i think she has showed sympathy for terry and she has invited for

instance, week or, or bon we're. the contrast is very often, but i think we need to move a little bit forward and move on from the date about josh's of denial inter juice and get, i think straight into the debate as to whether or not you got you loud. and mean, i'm wondering then what kind of conservatism does maloney presents for italians? what's attractive for italians about? yeah, i think that you know what the use of either at the active i mean having say that i do agree to say to the other, but i think we should go so far. and the different things that you,

that you show the, the beginning of the show, the white people in the voltage knowing what people are so knowing. and it seems to me that you know, fast, seasonal, conservative sounds wearing off so much nation. and what we have that, well, you know, she's close to the needs of people and maybe she can do something for my call. she's a certainly the woman as she someone would be here. and i mean, i'm not giving any judgment to these. i'm just saying that you know, the actual owner of people you need that when talking about the, the job done and on the ease, you know, not so much to was you know, the national and the all. busy to walked in on the bases of the guy and i think that, you know, now he's the most important question that i mean at what kind of, you know, at the school time says she managed to capture the work guy. and you know,

all of them both she, she guessed that i did clear that and the majority of, you know, not the majority the, but the big past, all the votes of maloney. it is a little of the volts of i still not a 5 she's. she's still 5, she's the both. these are really, you know, she's the only one the latter in the sense that you know, she has a bit of a dog maloney now so that i really, i think highest. we've tried. we've tried everybody else. let's try a flavor that we haven't tried, flavor politics. we haven't tried for some time. let me push on a little bit because i don't want to just talk about maloney's roots. i want to talk about how she will lead. so i'm going to go back to a documentary that you pop or you made in 2019 where you will looking. not just that it leaves and please move to the fall, right. but connecting back to your family as well. and you went to maloney,

raleigh in 2019 when she wasn't even pulling that high. but what do we see here? do we think leadership here that have a look? these are the brother is of it. the country 2nd largest tar right party, georgia maloney is the leader in today. she's issuing a clarion call for europe to get behind the brothers a screen nationalist center with i suspect when maloney says our identity, she doesn't include the farm workers. i met in full year and where is the country's fascist history to be found in her notion of what defines us about their real challenges for italy right now there's a column, it economic challenges i,

cove it is still around speak, people still cobra coat, covey, their health challenges as a lot to cope with. how is maloney going to change what she does on the staging rallies into leading a country? or she's gonna have to be pragmatic, isn't she? and for example, you know, we know that she's had some meetings with mario, the idea of course lead the country up until, you know, the, the elections. and now the new government comes because this is a tricky situation. italy also needs to access a lot of money the has given it to kind of get back on its feet after cove it. so i think, you know, i think we're going to see a pragmatic maloney. i think we will see the kind of signal that her presence will give to the rest of the european countries. but i think practicality in and, you know, obviously at the other guests will know more especially of the times when based in italy. but you know, she's going to have to be practical and i think getting the economy to be stable is

the most important thing. and remember that one of the main reasons that maloney a slip to power because it's interesting when, when i made the feel we almost didn't go to the maloney rally because me in the produce we're going nash is pulling at 4 percent. we don't need to go there. and then thankfully our director made us and you know, that was only 2019 and look how she skyrocketed. i'm in the polls and that is because she was the only opposition party to cove it. so when a lot of unpopular measures are being pushed through whether it was locked down or easily had very strict them vaccination rules, for example, where you couldn't even go in to restaurant if you could surely re vaccinated. she capitalized on all of that. so look, you know, that there's a lot of reasons. remember, 7000000 people voted for maloney and abstention remains really the one window of these of these elections which is worrying in itself. so i think when it comes to the economy, we may see her be a bit more traditional that we may think or you know,

working with in europe. it'll be interesting to see what she does on issues like migration. obviously a key, a key issue for the far right and issues like the rights of minorities. maria, go ahead. yeah. yeah. we need a better. we can, you guess 2nd? yeah, yeah. yeah. yeah, the interesting thing is that the minority that we saw in 2019 might be despite herself. and despite the way she would like to be, as she might be removed from the kind of leader that will have to manage the country. because we're talking about projects, country, and financial respects, you know, in the middle of up, in the midst of a serious crisis. that is the recent war on the continent. the reason the economy war and the energy war going on with russia, with energy prices are tenfold, does have grown tenfold. from

a couple of years ago. we interest rates going up and this flash refrigerator was talking about. so we're talking about a leader now, was calling for the euro to be dismembered. just a few years ago, she gave an interview like 15 months ago, not 15 years, but 15 months ago you know, questioning the euro, and now she's standing for a also looks fiscal policies. so what does that mean? and from what i hear, she's looking for the technocrats to run the most sensitive ministries. so the finance ministry, the energy ministry, the health ministry. it's like an admission that she doesn't have the personnel. she doesn't have the competency nor party and she attract the she doesn't have the right proposals, the right

a d s to ram discounts or so. this is also fascinating because it's not the 1st case of our populist the screen, some yales in probably squares. but the mean it, she has to take responsibility. this kind of pocket, a leader becomes scared. ok, now that we can become in her place, i voted we go. i he, i also want to spend some time with our audience who are watching you right now. this is 11 says that labels don't matter. what's my fee is that maloney lobster country and what's a safer country from globally is $1.00 perspective. and then another perspective here is concerned about how she might treat migrants coming to italy. i am wandering again. marina, about turning what you say for a campaign into leadership. how will maloney cope's from your perspective?

yeah, well, in these moments, i mean, what we know is that the scenes to the election in the middle on it as a very, very low profile. let's say no, it's not anymore than maloney that we saw in 2009 in good evening and yeah, but the new, she's the spending all the time at eating economy. yeah. and that was a saying, you know, if it's quite a candidate for you to seek that i making the key argument against the if they can look out the government and now using all porter high and over and they couldn't get out at all. so i think the guy goes to the yard or. busy maloney enzyme, and so for the man energy to be immediate ash,

social that i use a p on the union for all you see. and i think we still have to see who will be the meanest and the most important. and so i feel we don't know who will be there me several, my phone on me ending and the science. and i don't think we can be an idea idea of the go button, the medium declination, about those of the, the end of the 40. because over all of my knowing, i mean it's clear that in these moments, but i already design and you know, i'm not so sure you know how much the diamond is going to buy. and in these moments in social and i the, i mean it's a very nice will see that, you know, she's really walking, you know, waving it is if you look in this moment, you work for effect. yeah. because i'm hearing is that she is

actually knocking on the door so many of those technocrats and asking them to you know, get on to work for her. and she can get a lot of refusals because the credibility pro is not there. and. and so did this kind of lead and the rose a criticizing, the technocrats creatures criticizing mainstream policy making is now desperate, having those people on her side. and she's not managing that's the fascinating thing. and like we're talking about migration. but at the very same people who voted for her, you know, the small entropy, nursing north, eastern italy, they do want economic immigration because they cannot find personnel, they can all find people for the week. i'm going to what i'm going to bounce over. i'm going to bouts of what you were saying there because and i a piano is an assistant professor at the scholar normalized support. and he talks about some of

the most conservative policies that maloney has and he's very worried about them. and what that may turn italy into, this is what he told us earlier. due to maloney campaigned on the far right platform. she wants to block on immigration coming from normally european countries . and her social conservative agenda is likely to further come the rights of and gibby, detroit, people in access to abortion. should she succeed in implementing our platform. italy, man's of looking like a light version of hungary under our plan or poland under kuchinski. therefore, a looming prospects for the quality of democracy in the country. or is that a concern for for cities, you could not, you cannot be completion in front of those risks. of the same time

i would say, ah, maybe italy is too massy account 3 to our custom to its freedoms. and also a country with a very strong constitutional framework within the country and very strong attachment to european rules. so i don't think it will be easy to move italy into any lieber or, or sorry, durham county. i don't think people who voted for her bosses for the agenda. they voted for her to express her for us, defrost the frustration, but i'm not sure the means she tries to move italy in that direction. she will be the popular. so for the moment, you should not be complacent. i'm not complacent. but i see her be embarrassment because she screams a yell of they said that, but now it's the moment of truth and she doesn't know who to turn to the wrong

discount. and you know, way if you to are and so serious it will be even funny. it is our lesson for all populists out there. so easy to scream when, when you are in a position but then you have to take things seriously. and she doesn't know how to do that. let's go back to maloney and that is from august when she was on the campaign trail and better because she's screaming, but she definitely has a presence on stage and it's a very loud presence. it just remind us of what she's like when she has a big audience, who is enjoying what she says. and then i'm just going to go back to barbara and barbara about what you think may will happen next with this very bowl position. a take a look. i don't mind i, i am not afraid i am ready to leave this battle. the question is, are you ready? is this nation ready to question itself on the reasons why

a movement like brothers of italy is talked about every day as if it were a monster in the newspapers while it's estimated to have the support of 25 percent of italian fema barbara. what so, i mean it's interesting when you said eclipse from the summer, i thought you were going to show another one where she was speaking in spain and very much went into the full flow of sounding a little bit of forward terry. and there, i think there are serious questions that people can have about brothers with it. and it's not just the past. it's not just that it's region, a neo fascist party or comments that she made maybe in 1096 praising mostly. i mean, the truth is that there are still members of the party and some quite high up that will for example, celebrate key dates in the sort of, you know, saline. the diary that will do a fascist salute. liam was built in honor of someone who was effectively a war crime from world war 2 scene or the question marks of people have about maloney. it's not just the,

it's not invented and it's on just based in the past. there were recorded incidents of things that are happening now or have happened recently. and what i found really fascinating following both what she was saying on the italian campaign trail and then to the, you know, international but really english language press was how she was definitely trying to tone down her image. and to try to convince the international community that she is a serious interlocutor and that, that she would be a serious leader. or basically, i, you know, i think the word for that eco use, there is not to be complacent. one of the things that i'll be looking out for is how they treat the sent, especially the sent when it comes to journalism. because italy is the only country in europe, or a journalist is under police protection because of threats from neo fascist. so from the far right, most of the journalists under police protection are under protection because of the mafia. so it's things like that, you know, it, it's the little things that i think all of us have to be careful about and just keep an eye on when it comes to brothers of italy and the future government that

they may form. i'm going to leave with one more voice. this was his and i am all a who despite seeing all of the concern about what maloney may well bring to it, he doesn't think that she is able to break italy 7. listen to this. you picking your skepticism in italy, which is how to remind everybody, the 2nd military power and 3rd larger economy could damage the union beyond repair, with consequences that will, will feel ill. so in the u. s, i can see how this can be cause a concern. however, so far ga, milanni seems to have signal her willingness to act in continuity with my baggy and reassure everybody that the country will be loyal to nato and eve. thank you to everybody have joined us on your chair. the debate continues anew. chief barbara molina, petrie can, thanks for being part of the day, shall appreciate it as he next time. hey kathy, buddy ah,

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