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fione, i have 6 rockets in 2 weeks, including one that flew over japan. message is north korea ascending and how should the international community respond? this is inside story. ah hello there and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. north korea has dramatically increase the number of bits missile tests that's conducted 6 in just 12 days, including the 1st intermediate range ballistic missile test in 5 years. it landed in the sea of japan on tuesday. i know that lot prompted japanese government to warn people to seek shelter. the u. s. japanese and south korean military's responded with live fire drills a day later. and the pentagon,

reposition to the aircraft carrier of the korean peninsula. john young reacted by launching 2 more missiles on thursday and sending fighter jets nearest border with south korea. in a phone call, the japanese and south korean leaders condemns the military escalation. the pentagon says the latest tests posed a serious threat to the region. stability thoroughly north korea is testing its missile program. ah, it's looking to adapt. and the issue here though is that these actions are provocative. they're dangerous. and as you all know, north korea has not committed to any type of constructive or strategic dialogue on these issues. i'll at the un security council, the u. s. accused china and russia of enabling north graves leader kim jong, earn my blocking further sanctions, but be jane fed. it is washington, that provoking pyongyang is on full as usual on the nuclear issue. the u. s. is

playing by a double standard, it is engaged in political maneuvering, poisoning the security environmental's. against this backdrop, the height and tension on the peninsula shall not come as a surprise. will miss artists of increased fears that north korea will soon conduct another nuclear test. new as base center for strategic and international studies released these satellite images of the pony re test site. from late september, analysts say they show work on a tunnel which could be part of an expansion of testing capabilities. new and his tracking north grades, ballistic missile tests and says it has carried out around 40 this years, a record number. in the past 40 years, pyongyang has conducted more than 200 miss our launches and 6 nuclear tests. and more than half of those have been since kim jong and came to power. ah,

let's bring in our guest now discuss this further and in. so we have a young fellow at the us and institute for policy studies and take care allison morgan, a professor at the university of tokyo and a former push ambassador to north korea. and in washington, d. c. mart. fitzpatrick, a fellow at the international institute for strategic studies, and a former deputy us assistant secretary of state of i will welcome to all of you. but let's start by looking at the timing of these tests. ok, and why are we saying this barrage of missile tests now? yeah, we have to see the context. well, as you see, the last september nose korea announce is nuclear force horace act and the law is closed. so you are gonna see nuclear daughtry a has been claiming since the april military gray,

you know, it is intended to c l u s. and south korea and they'll do group horses on horses are now over asian. and by shooting all these mr. they say then, i mean they are ready. alyssa, how concerning is it for japan that this intermediate range ballistic missile flu 1st of all, over its land. but 2nd of all, it was unannounced. i think for everybody and obligation to a nurse launches which the cpr always ignore was in japan. clearly, it gave rise to notices to, to citizens in northern japan. and some places are,

was clearly the mis are, went beyond the range of miss was probably intended to demonstrate a capability to reach a member of your career is well aware that systems in north korea that can strike japan, the new care posture that the north korean so that makes it clear that if a new positive associated with a new camera in any action against the b r k, then they can become targets as well. so of course it's a reasoning for particular concern for absolutely, and how much of it concern mark is it for the us? is this kim jong testing by them? well, the united states is certainly concerned with the growing modernization and expansion

of north korea's nuclear program. nuclear weapon surely could hit in the could surely put fit in the nose cone of the missile that was just launched. and the fact that this, the trajectory of the missile launch was more normal than the, than the previous test that went up and then then down north korea is refining its ability to hit spaces. and the united states is firm in its defense of japan and south korea. but aware that north korea is trying to say that if there is a conflict on the korean peninsula that north korea would try to war in the us off by saying that it could hit any us cities or bases if united states were to be engaged in such a conflict, i don't think united states will be, will be deterred by that, but it is certainly an escalation as well. no thing isn't it?

this is not the longest range missile, but north, where hasn't it's all snow? no, they've got into intercontinental ballistic missiles. they successfully tested in 2017 and i expect that we will see another such test of an icbm in the coming months. is that the feeling of young and south korea just give us an idea of what the policy that is from the current government towards the north does a south willingboro and is trying to, you know, the tour of the north korean pro location. and i mean, while it, we are, we are trying to, you know, do much more, you know, a lesson stance well. or for example, yesterday, north korea and ground exercise is you

know, a vital and bomber plane. and our air force launched like, sorry, vitals to intercept any threat and just trying to get an idea of what that what unit. so q o feels towards what is his policy towards the north. because of course, his predecessor attempted engagement and that didn't get very far. so what is this current government's approach? yeah, well i mean, we are, we are trying to do, you know, was a toe and, you know, deal with a, you know, any of those things like these. i mean, the, why don't you clearly said that, you know, putting out was to, you know, told to us, and we will, you know, provide any help. most player needs. i mean, the present, you know, part of the, or they just initial p. lo,

which include a lot of, well, any, only if you know, coming to the they wish asian. but i mean, when doors would have tried to these kinds of occasions were bone with us. and also, as you see, what is really different from the previous government, the step one is now working. also with japan, you as always, has example to be a try to corp was our government has its own, you know, a problem. but parents, you, if i mean, i mean if you did this, you know, egypt is that allister enough international cooperation on this. i me remember back to the times of the 6 party talks on team, you can arise asian, where there was a united from dealing with north korea. and now it appears to be so fractions. how

much coordination is there and what more is needed? what i would just like to the point that was made of our cooperation between japan and the republic career. and i think that is important. and in terms of terence of no career clearly from the lining, the what's called the nature of the u. s. alliance with japan, with the republic of korea is important looking at the wider international community, the being, there's an obligation or every member states to implement the united nations security council functions as there has been much action by many member states. but this is very obvious at the moment, there is polarized a sheet on the security council. and there is not the unanimity that

the was in, for instance, decision making on introducing further sanctions in the security council in terms of what is needed are clearly and effective security council is vital for this issue. and for many issues in international peace and security. and it's a major concern that the, the unity is not, that i don't believe that any actual further coalition into national member face is going to deter north korea from its determination to maintain its ballistic missile programs. and it's new care programs. but nevertheless, the coordination is still required to ensure that the deterrent effect is there. and that sanctions bite and the,

the message you said not just to north korea but to other countries as well. why is that? i would say if, if, if the, if there was unity on further sanctions, but it didn't make any difference. what would be the point? i didn't say it wouldn't make any difference. i didn't think it would change the determination of the dpr k to maintain its its programs. i think that in the long run maintaining sanctions and actually enforcing more effectively to current sanctions. and indeed, sure the security council designed by new factions does increase the pressure on the dpr k, the dpr k in mind. you cannot achieve any real meaningful economic growth under the sanctions. even though actually it has in effect sanctioned itself with its coded kind of been measure and that's in the long run does have an impact and

actually creates a pressure that it can then be used for diplomacy. but at the moment of mark said, there is no indication that the d p. k is ready to respond to the or the to the diplomacy. i also say that the sanction is actually can delay the, the, the continued roll out of the program. even though it's very clear that the dpr k has reached a high level of development and has high levels of indigenous capacity. i think we see in the past suddenly month that sanctions only really work when china is fully on board because of course they supply an awful lot of fuel and food to the d p r k . to what extent is the u. s. coordinating or able to coordinate with china on this front was not able to coordinate at all,

but china and russia had refused. new un sanctions refused earlier this year. and china has really relaxed its implementation of existing sanctions. so given all the areas in which the united states and china are at odds, china is in no mood to cooperate with united states on with regard to north korea. so i don't, i don't think we can really expect much there. if i may, you know, say if we're looking at other tools in the tool box, there's one i think that might actually be effective immediately. but that is, you know, we talk about sending messages. let's send an actual message to north korea in the past several years ago. so 3, it was very effective when it turned down. he turned on huge loud speakers along the border of the dmc and broadcast 10 kilometers in the north korea.

messages about the, you know, the correction of the regime interface with acute and okay, pop songs to girls and so forth. my understanding of talking with the north korean defector once is this had a real impact in north korea. and if it's one way that we can do something that's not all lethal, but could, you know, make the other side listen physically and metaphorically. absolutely. well they could hardly not listen so good. they are you ok? what do you think of that idea? is it a viable one? is it something that the south korean government that is that for entertaining you know, what i actually the idea that, you know, let the, those going to be per wo we'll see creation is really important. i mean, i'm that i don't think that the, the, the broadcast will be m these, you know,

i mean, well, as we, as you see in the premium we're, i mean, the even known as service. can you fact, you know, or so what i think that, i mean if we provide the free income and you know what, like crazy like that. they can connect to maybe, i mean, that were, you know, bring down these, you know, dictates as to how, what is the state of life for people inside north korea? oh, yeah, it, it came to no need declared success over coven, 2 months ago. do we? and how much we know about the economic situation and the social situation for people that now well, much as we would like to know, i was very 2018. and the british embassy, like many of the european embassies and many our emphasis closed

in, in 2020 times to reopen again. so the sort of information that was coming out from north korea through the observations are different wraps in the countries into the observations of u. n. a workers in the country dried up, some of the foods remained. i mean, it seems very likely that the situation is poor unless they there are numbers of really strong kind of 19 of course in suffering death. 90 career is by no means are low and probably the level of food proficiency is very, very low. and you can normal captivity is the most, but whether this is at the level of severe severity that we've seen in the 2nd half

of the 1900 ninety's, which of course, the regime managed to survive is not clear. i hope it isn't. and i think it probably is, but the situation is good. in terms of information access, there's less access to information. now. there was a few years ago because with the closed border between the dpi, okay, and china and the rest of the world as to how much then is this of these tests a message to the domestic audience or oriented distraction for the domestic audience from the living situations what did you have to do? so i do believe that the, the program a launch is minutes. you can talk about nuclear weapons development is essentially a military program program. clearly times there are announcements of individual

tests which are used for internal propaganda. i think the history of the image of the next to me is important for the regime in its management of the people. but i don't think that the latest test, the test in the last 2 weeks are primarily aimed at distracting the people with the intention of the leadership. i think they really don't want to. i mean, information about them in their own media propaganda source being remarkably silent about market. the last time we saw this, many missile tests was in 2017. then of course we had a nuclear test at the end towards the end of that year. lot of talk about another 7 nuclear test. what's your theory on that?

and when it might happen, because there are, of course, some key global dates coming up. we've got china's communist party congress. we've got the u. s. midterm elections. you've got no quiz work as ponti anniversary. do you have any theories as to when, if this might happen? well, i and i don't have any series that are better than the theories being discussed in south korea, where there's a view that a test during the upcoming workers party congress is the most likely timeframe. so i think that maybe the middle of october, or in the weeks there after i've been expecting another nuclear test for some time . and the indications are that the site has been prepared for it to you know, i think when it's imminent we will get more information. we have very good satellite coverage of that site and some very good analysts to can look at it and tell us what's happening. i haven't seen that yet, but expect we will. i think before the end of the year we're, we're going to get

a new test. we're probably going to get an icbm test and things are going to just get more and more attempts. and again, is there a plan south korean response to this? you know what i mean? our vision, if you could counsel, i mean, and they are trying to figure out if there's any, you know, siding the nuclear path. and i mean they have last the plan. i mean, so the, and the promise policy, i mean, to deal with the, as the treasure after the warrior has done this town. i mean, well actually they, our government position is, is that, i mean, we, we were, you know, do every, you know, possible measure, you know,

after law school yet the, the us, you know, you could, you could pass them and we will then boom and working with us and as japan at what would that look like alice? what would that response be? i'm not sure what the what the particular measures would be. and i think you can look at measures that can be taken in, in response to the ballistic missile program. increased emphasis on cooperation looking again at the deterrent c detection and determine tools are i'm sure that the united states from united kingdom and i don't have the security council and brochure in china will

work hard to get a new resolution and security council if there is a nuclear test, i would hope that they would succeed, but it's hard to be optimistic at the moment. i mean, clearly, member states can take autonomous measures in relation to sanctions. and if the un but the scores yahoo level is paralyzed, then they may well do so. and is scope of course for secondary sanctions against china. should member decide that that is cool for just a month. last thought for me in the last 30 seconds. we have what is north korea want to more less they want protection against what they do as a potential attack on their country. they're wrong about that. they're wrong about who started the korean war, but they want to defend themselves. and they also wanna be treated as see

themselves as an equal the united states. they loved it when president donald trump spoke with their president and he was a failed opportunity that that leadership summit didn't result in any deals. we could have had something and both sides asked for too much. okay, fantastic. thank you very much already for joining us. ok, young alice morgan and mark as patrick. and thank you too for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website as al jazeera dot com for further discussion to go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you know, the during the conversation on twitter, we're at a j inside story from me laura kyle and the whole team here is bye for now with

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