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poem fully back to boeing, doha, with a look at our main stories on al jazeera, the main bridge linking crimea with mainland russia has been damaged, shafter an explosion. russian authorities say was caused by a truck bomb and that at least 3 people died in the blast. mama vall has the latest reaction from moscow. former president dmitri med head of who is now the deputy chairman of the national security council. he basically said about little while ago or 2 days ago, one of the ukrainian officials spoke of the need to strike. i thought the particular bridge hi i hope is i hope he understands what the retaliatory goals will be. he also said in july, in july he said, if they hit crimea, judgment day will come for them. so i mean, this is

a very strong reaction from mid viet f and also the speaker of the state duma. he described what happened as an act of war on russia. so very of the, obviously, russian leadership, very angry with what happened. they consider it a, i, a terrorist act. and russia has promised of vowed to react to any type to, to this particular type of, of attack on it's what it considers its territory. and it's interesting. ukrainian officials have also reacted to the explosion. rory, challenge these in keys with more. there's a lot of insinuation, but no explicit confirmation that this was the behavior, the results, the actions of ukraine's military, the most austere to, you know, think was taken by mckayla padaya, who's an advisor to the president's landscape alongside

a picture of the batting bridge. he writes on switzer crimea, the bridge, the beginning, everything illegal must be destroyed. everything stolen must be returned to ukraine . everything occupied by russia must be expelled. other officials with recants had a bit more fun. with this city, secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine had a picture of the burning bridge alongside marilyn monroe was singing. happy birthday. mister president's will. of course, yesterday friday was vladimir putin, the president of russia's 70th birthday sick. byrne was the simple comment from another official ukrainian accounts, but i suspect the behind this provider there is a bit of nervousness in ukraine about what the response from russia might be. this is a huge blow to them both logistically and in terms of psychology as well logistically, it makes that very, very difficult for the russians to supply that troops in the south of ukraine

fighting against ukrainian forces that in other world news, at least 2 palestinians had been killed and 11 others injured by israeli forces in the occupied west bank. they were targeted during and israeli raid and the janine refugee camp sources say one of the detained is a brother of a member of the islamic. she had called abraham is in ramallah with more on these really res. seem janine, we know that jeanine has been the api center of attention. we're talking about more than $114.00 palestinians who had killed by israel since the beginning of the year in the west bank alone. and a 3rd of those have been killed engineering. we're also seeing aerial enforcement when it comes to this really res engine in itself. this is something we haven't seen since. the 2nd palestinian is it called like years and years ago. but a lot of tension is the deadliest here in the occupied westbank for more than 7

years. haiti has appealed for international help to deal with is deteriorating, security and economic situation. armed gangs have been battling for control of several road, same areas, including the main fuel terminal. and at least 9 people have been killed in island after an explosion at a service station rescue calls are searching through rubble for victims in the, in the village of crazed law in donegal. and those are the headlines on al jazeera . i'll be back with more news after the bottom line. stay with us. ok . i am steve clements and i have a question. who is winning the war in ukraine? let's get to the bottom line. ah, the ukraine war is no ordinary territorial dispute between neighbors. as

a wise man said recently, this is going to shape the rest of the 21st century. if russia loses or doesn't get what it once it's going to be a different rush afterward. and if russia wins, it's going to be a different europe afterward. the stakes really couldn't be higher. so what's going on? in vitamin putin's mind right now, western media paint him as a leader forced into a corner facing military set backs and getting more and more frustrated and desperate. how accurate is that? last week we got the view from washington, and today we're getting the view from moscow. we're talking with andre cartoon off the director general of the russian international affairs council. he's one of the country's leading experts in russian foreign policy and international relations. andre, it's great to be with you and talking with you right now on such as sober issue. let me just ask you from our perceptions in washington. one of the things i want to get into today is how, what we're seeing in washington, where think we're seeing and washington may in fact not align with how things look for moscow. but as we've seen,

a new phase in the conflict between russia and ukraine, basically develop now, what is the dashboard from your perspective in moscow? well, i think that it would be fair to say that there have been 2 major developments or recently the 1st of on our was of course are the decision of the president confirmed by the russian parliament or to incorporate the 4 you korean regents into the russian federation, and are the 2nd one a was saw to launch showed these are partial mobilization. our, which is an indicator that the special mentally operation needs some kind of adjustments that are, it doesn't bring the results that are the russian leadership bar. was anticipating to get her so i think that that these 2 developments sir, will have at least 3 major implications are,

are for the situation are in this conflict. first of all, i think it's now fair to say that any political, a settlement between russia and ukraine is old out, at least for the foreseeable future. because, or you cannot imagine the you kenyan leadership, are willing to agree or to a major loss of its territory. especially now when i ukraine, allegedly has this technology conducive? oh, it doesn't mean that we will have no negotiations are between the osh and ukraine, or there might be negotiations on technical law situational issues. so for instance, some agreements or not prisoners exchanger, there might be. busy are extensions are offered the grain deal because these grain deal expires in the van bra. it has to be extended further. there might be some consultation saw on the safety of these up asia nuclear power plant. are maybe some

other agreements are, but i don't think that are the opinion, said di, either a deal or willing to get her back her to discuss a political settlement of with doesn't put in and this is what our cousins announced. he has already stated quite clearly that i, he is added to negotiate with russia, but not with booted. so that's the 1st or implication of what are has happened. the 2nd implication is that a given the fact that her asa has announced this partial mobilization. i am the are the odds are that i in a couple of weeks from now a may be in a month, may be in 2 months from now. they'll be a major reinforcement, sir. i get into the frontline. ah, it would be logical for ukraine to try to are used the window help, but unity that they still have are in order to make

a significant advances on the ground as possible. and this is what we already see a within a couple of days or ukrainian. so we're trying to push harder. both are in don't bus and the in the south are the messages that we get to here are, are mixed or. busy of course of the russian mil to commander claim, so that to most of the you canyon are counter offensives, failed, but this is yet to be seen. but it's clear that we will see unfortunately another cycle of escalation. and we don't know how long this cycle of escalation will last for. and finally, i think that definitely ah, you kind of will try to use these decisions or by the kremlin in order to seek. busy support from the west and are, are the of the with the you can leadership has already, arden made

a beat chart to join nato. i think are, these are pitched, met, or a mixed her an action in the west, but nevertheless, they expect to get more military assistance. so are more intelligent support or more support in training of personnel. i end up more economic support. so unfortunately, i don't see any light in the end of the tunnel right now. i'm afraid of that things are likely to get worse before they can get any better. how much pain and stress is being felt by moscow right now over their decisions on ukraine? well, it's also something that has changed dramatically because i think earlier of, for most people living in most good was almost like a computer game. ah, in the sense that this conflict was far and far away, of course, ugh, la moskowitz,

of felt something. but these are being, was felt primarily by the most cool, middle class of people who go to, of you know, vesting dks. so or a supermarket, saw fast food chains are definitely are, are these out primarily young, urban professionals i and are they felt unhappy about the adjuster? minority. they're not up bog. oh, they're not the bulk of the russian society i and are those people who leave are in small town, soar in rural areas. i in various national republic, sir, in the russian federation that they didn't turn field this. they ain significantly are or i, maryland, because they do not consume while foreign made goods, they don't go shopping to lessen type moles. and now of course it is different

because these so partial mold mobilization is something that affects all the regions and died can affect to any family in the county. not surprisingly was so, so many people who tried to leave the country. we don't know how many of them, but clearly a, these are large numbers or maybe hundreds of solvents or people trying to escape this mobilization. i again, i don't think that her, uh, that constitutes an immediate to chillen shot to the russian little chip are, but definitely a of this is something that the leadership i should keep in mind. why planning? ah, other actions that might lead to, to florida collision. you know, we recently did a show. busy here on the bottom line with nuclear experts, cory shockey from the american enterprise institute in john wolf's fall, who is involved with nuclear alarms control issues in the obama administration. and they were both rather measured about some of the discussion of a potential use of

a tactical nuclear warhead device in this battle. but i'm just sort of interested in not whether president pollutant would make that decision to recall. but whether or not the consequences of that decision are understood by russian national security elite and what, what rubicon, that would mean that you would be going over? well this is one of the issues we sure are really are concerned me a lot because i cannot describe what's going on in the clareman. i do not know. ah, but are i yar? observe for that in the public discourse. are there is a more and more ah intention or at least to readiness to accept a nuclear war. and they said that, well, you know, nuclear war is bad, but if it is controlled, if we're talking about the use of tactical

a low yield or nuclear weapons, probably this is not the end of the rule to am dar. this is something our week jar is affordable. i consider such discussions and such positions to be are very dangerous. because of course our wants to embark on this road. it is extremely difficult to stop, even if it is a low yield, even if it is just a demonstration use of nuclear weapons somewhere in the black sea region or in the baltic sea region. but it might lead to an inadvertent escalation. and of course a, in the end of the day, it might lead to as a teacher, nuclear exchange or with all the are implications that to these exchange shot might bring are, so are it is dangerous. i think that of course, it is also clear that all nuclear powers preserve

a degree of ambiguity about their music. nuclear strategies. the do you do not want to be too explicit about the circumstances under which you're, you might be ready to use nuclear weapons. but i think that a, it would be in everybody's interest to just to exclude of the nuclear dimension from these conflict. he and i, i think that any use any of nuclear weapons in this conflict or will be detrimental to everybody engaged so that i should be avoided. and i think that everybody should direct confirmed the statement that was made to earlier this year. i think in january by either the, a prominent members of the united nations security council that to you cannot or when in the nuclear war. and that's why you should not start a nuclear war. ah, one of the interests that i think a lot of us have in the west that are watching this is say, how did we get here?

why did russia are invade ukraine? what was the, essentially the driver of this moment? is there a perception that flirting with ukraine, with regards to nato, helped draw russia into it's next vietnam? whoa, i think the, to the official narrative here is that it is not really a war between russia and a crane. it's a conflict between russia and the west. her many officials saw in this city, argued that your cleaner is not an independent actor. ukraine exists on that like support system provided by the west. and the perception is that a ukraine would have been defeated. would hefa capitulated long time ago, if not for the western assistance or so. i think the perception here

e under this is the narrative which is presented by the prussian leadership. that of the west term chris been anti russian for a very long time that the wester would like her if not to, to completely destroy russia than to weaken it. to the extent that russia would cease to be an independent blair in international relations. and ukraine is just a tool in the capable camps or western politicians. so lisa, so the narrative, which is presented by the russian leadership, do you still agree with that? and essentially what we're seeing now are the aftershocks of many decades later of that soviet empire, that soviet space kilt still coming undone. yeah, thank you for reminding me of my, your paper. indeed, i made a point, and i, i still believe ah, that ah, defacto,

the soviet union did not to disintegrate. beckon 1991 or because of though the 15 constituent republics declared their independence and started working on their state hoods. but it was a very long and precarious process. and our, for a long period of time up of the former are bits and pieces of the soviet union. the state together, in terms of the economic or transportation for structure or in term saw or fall logistics, sir in tom saw all 4 of the perceptions and mentality are only gradually. we saw a real disengagement. i iananda ah, that's why it was so easy to dissolve. the soviet union, nobody really cared that much about these decisions because so many people thought

that nothing would change that up. they would simply, you know, the status of this independence and our life. i would go on a bud gradually. we've observed that to radius countries. so have sla developed a very different to development projectors and i, if you compare for instance, russian, you king, you see that the, these 2 pots of the former soviet union, which constituted the core of the soviet union, ah, gradually started diverging from each other on may beer, it was because said they inherited to do for him to legacies. ah, of the soviet union. maybe because they got different leaders about different the ukraine of was so movement are in the direction of western liberal or models. not always. so consistently. i was some said beck's e and even now you could

a now are kim, the hot to be qualified as a mature democracy. but to russia started moving away, or from liberal bottles. yolanda we've seen a very clear strategic disengagement between russia and ukraine. always. joe, of course, contributed a lot of to these conflict. i'm very interested andre, and how your friends and colleagues in the international affairs circuit are viewing the solvency of the u. s. relationships inside nato. you know, i, you and i have attended some of the same conferences we see, ah, you know, kind of celebration if you will, of nato again in light of responding after rushes invasion of ukraine. but at the same time, under their breath, those leaders in europe will say, we saw january 6th things were different under president trump. we know that america is not as dependable in ally as it once might have been, at least that's their calculation. and i'm interested in whether that is seen as an

opportunity in moscow or a sign of crumbling american influence as compared to a sending american influence. well, let me said that up or within the expert community at least a nobody question. so the factor that we observe law and enhanced western cohesion that a. busy of the lesta has been managed to unite itself or partially are due to efforts or of present biden, about posture. leah, to the decisions may die in europe and also in east asia. and the main discussion that we have here is about whether these son, you cohesion are, is situational or something we shaw was triggered primarily, a, by your office actions in ukraine, and something which is limited to russia. only

a something that might and, ah, if of the a conflict is result or if the conflict of is frozen or are either we should ha, look at this caucasian as a, a strategic shift. something that will go beyond russia, something which will affect a western attitudes to china up to the global south and something that would last. busy of we're at least a couple of years because a dependent on know whether these cohesion, ah, is tactical or strategic. or we might have found that a different objectives saw all flaw the global or the development. ah, and are some said that in 2 years from now, i may be in the united states, you will have another donald trump, i and that will be the into all the west. the unity, ah, this would said that day, it's not about personalities. bud, the west is concerned, not only about russia,

it is concerned about to their eyes of china. so these cohesion i is the, are to stay. so this is the discussions that we have for in moscow. unfortunately it is more difficult right now to share all use with our. busy colleagues in europe and the united states about to hook up the after i and to do our best to stay in touch. i'm interested in whether the change in leadership that a lot of people in the west become obsessed with that this is all putin isn't your assessment. that that is an accurate analysis. that any one, not any one, but that from the, from the available potentials around russian leadership. that if there were to be someone there, does this system does the scaffolding a round russian decision making right now have more to do with russia's course than one individual go. personell it is do metro. i don't think that we should a limit to the, the problems between the russia and the west

o to personnel that is only, i think, co, unfortunately. oh, they are more suited them just a issue. so particular leaders and let me just ask you finally, andre is we often discuss the west and russia in this situation in a silo. there are other big powers in the world, china, india, others that have basically straddled the relationships. and in particular, i'd be interested in your perception of china's choices right now. ok. and how china could play a role either a pro, from russia's perspective, anti, or stay somewhere in between. i think that china takes a very cautious position in these conflict. her definitely would like her to support our russia against nater and against the united states in particular because aid has its own problems with the washington d. c. i n dot rush is a natural partner for china in this confrontation. ah, well,

i'm not sure that china is ready to support to russia against ukraine or because so china has its own problems of separatism. it doesn't like separatism. ah, it has never recognized her. the changed legal status of the crimean been this to law. i it, there are other confirms it's supporter of the territorial integrity and independence of ukraine are. so it is not ready to support our moscow against keith . on top of that. busy we should not forget that our chinese concerned about secondary sanctions, at least the chinese private sector are, is not a good idea or to, ah, explicitly, ah, why later the e u m, the eat he the united states, sir, ah. busy busy restrictions are in tate i it days are also are in our

country a has its own agenda. i. so i think that i, china will continue to be very cautious. ah, without her, ah, ah, breakin from her shock and die. it will abstain in the united nations or it will a definitely a supporter, ashley in terms of for buying more russian oil and gas or butter. right. it is not likely to go against a ukraine in an explicit way. but just to responded to your question, and that will be my last pointer. i think that if you put aside are, these are very a said i and read a tragic conflict or with ukraine or the real challenge that thrasher has a, is not a choice between the west and china, or it's a choice or between the ah, what i would call our cell in self inflicted isolation. these and i enter

an integration. realism of the question is not to choose between the east and the west or between the european union, the and east asia. the question is whether russia is willing to integrate into a broad, international community or through us, or to stay outside of this community. and this is, i think, a fundamental choice that the country it has to make. well, that's a very stark i and, and well articulated fork in the road. andre cartoon off director general of the russian international affairs council and moscow. thank you so much for being with us today and thank you for your candor. thank you. so what's the bottom line? war is not just about the battlefield. perceptions of struggle of success loss ambition, psychological warfare play a huge role in the west. recent ukrainian advances had been taken to mean that russia is losing badly. so moscow might as well recognize, give up, but it's that really how moscow sees it. another problem that's blocking us from

piercing through the fog of war is the emphasis on the cult of personality. we're personalizing the issue as if latimer putting is the only problem. sure. putting is in control of his country and government, but even if it were someone else would, the next russian leader have invaded ukraine, much like now justified by claims that it was vital for russia's national security . in the west, we tend to mirror image thinking other nations will think and act like we do. but the truth is that putting doesn't see the world, the same as joe biden, and biden doesn't see the world the same as the landscape regardless of how and when this war ends. it won't be pretty because we're almost never brings about clear cut solution to these conflict of interest. and that's the bottom line. ah ah,

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