tv Up Front Al Jazeera October 10, 2022 11:30am-12:01pm AST
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went to school now because of all of the coach was a volunteer to we was trying to also change somebody's by one of those coaches as mercy won't be enough. she started playing when she was 18 years old. now in her twenties, she's teaching younger players quality. she learned when growing up is this up to see ship, we teach them to respect their parents. the change and some of the players is remarkable. their parents say before they started playing football, they were disrespectful. now they do their chores at home and focus on school record high inflation means jobs are scarce in zimbabwe, a lot of families are struggling. the united nations is 62 percent of the population in zimbabwe is aged below $25.00. many young people live in poor communities where there are few opportunities for some football helps keep him out of trouble and away from being tempted by alcohol and drugs. football is helping these youngsters develop and teaching them that even when the going gets tough.
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hardwick determination and teamwork can help them. gwin on the field and in lie. yeah. how to madison out, is it helen? ah. hello gun. the headlines on al jazeera russian missile strikes have been reported in several cities in ukraine, including the capital, achieve their state emergency services says 5 people had been killed and many more injured blasts of also been heard and cities in ukraine's west, including living that's close to the border with poland on turn, opal disney pro and central ukraine, and close to the front lines has also been heads for a challenge. has war on the phone from cheve? remember, this is monday morning. so these attacks seem designed to cause maximum cottage during the morning rush hour. basically, they're all injured and dead, but it's not yet known. how many that's according to the states emergency services,
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the indications of the 8 people being killed that was an hour ago before the latest ways of attack so that it's almost certain to go up significantly. now q 50 may be totally clear. sky was appealed to all residents in the city. he says, stay in shelters, and it says no urgent need is better. not to go into the city a tool. well, they attacks come, our officer vladimir putin called saturdays was on the cruise branch, connecting crimea to mainland russia, a terrorist act, the russian president blaine's ukraine. special services, the branch supplies moscow troops in southern ukraine. the malaysian prime minister, a smile sabri alcove, has dissolved parliament paving the way for national election is to be held in the coming weeks. if now may be announcements in a televised address earlier this, our north korea leader says its latest miss how long since we're away to test the ability, if it's nuclear weapons, to wipe out us and south korean targets. qindzhong also announced plans to conduct more tests. kim said the launches were in response to joint naval drills by the u.
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s. and south korea. protesters in sure line car or demand, or condemning rather a violent crack down on a demonstration in the capital colombo. at least 6 people were arrested off just security forces, toll protest, or they couldn't assemble a landslide venezuela has killed at least 22 people. and more than 50 are missing. torrential rain swept tree trunks and debris from the mountains into the city of to harry us. the area received a months worth of rain in just 8 hours. more news coming out after upfront. thanks for watching the life talk to al jazeera, we ask, do you believe that women of afghanistan was somehow abandoned by the international community? we listen, we api shoot a price for the war against terrorism as good morning money. we meet with global news makers. i'm talk about the stories that matter on al jazeera is the amazon reaching the point of no return from deforestation and fires to land grabs and
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mining. scientists say we may be seeing the end of the planets, largest rain forest, the effect condemning a 1000000 species to extinction, and likely irreversible acceleration of the climate crisis. that conversation is coming up. but 1st weeks after devastating floods displaced millions in pakistan. the country is still struggling with the aftermath. this week the united nations upped its humanitarian appeal for the country from $160000000.00 to $816000000.00. this is not the 1st time pakistan has felt the effects of the climate crisis. so what role should the international community play in the wake of such disasters? earlier i sat down with pakistan's minister of state foreign affairs, this weeks headliner. he know to bonnie car. ah, in everybody car, thank you so much for joining me on up front. over 1500 people have died as a result of catastrophic floods in pakistan,
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another 33000000 people have been displaced. at least one 3rd of the country is under water. diseases are spreading rapidly, flood damage is, or it's expected to exceed over $30000000000.00. you're here at the you, in general assembly. can you talk to me a bit about the scope of the devastation impact? ok, so when you look at numbers which are in tens of millions, we dehumanizing number the number of the guns, a number, and the humans a sort of leave and the number stays with us, right? so let me define, put it in perspective. this is a population, the size of all of the kingdom of saudi arabia is a population which is larger than all of malaysia. this is an area which is the same size as the whole of the united kingdom. that's the scale of the disaster. and then on top of that, it's a disaster. united be been saying it is not of our making luckily attribute will
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science now exist to tell us that this is a climate change crisis disaster. so the skin is just humongous. and just to be able to grapple with the enormity of what happened and the task ahead is something that didn't make you hopeless, but that's the challenge for leadership not to and for the people who've already shown such a great deal of i don't think the word resilient use the word veneers because it somehow means that, you know, no matter what this did, it's fine, they're living so it's fine. i don't think it should be like that. and it isn't. it should not be like that. but in some ways it is because i don't think we have been enough structures in the world in the global order, in the, in the global architecture for crime, climate change, lead events to be able to grapple or diva. these crisis is effectively when you think about the global capacity to deal with these issues. as you pointed to some
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of argue the international response has been insufficient. un secretary general antonio terrorist said, there is a lot of attention on the war and ukraine, but people tend to forget that there is another warmed the war we are waging on nature. and nature is striking back. many of said, look, there's been a powerful response to the war in ukraine. we saw extraordinary responses to the flooding in europe. has it been adequate, the global response to pakistan? look, we're very thankful and grateful and for whatever response we've got. and i think the response has been, i mean i can, i can tell you that countries like, there you are, you, for instance, have an ear bridge countries. victor kia, have assisted a lot, many other countries. jain, of course, continues to assist, or the united states came in with in large numbers in terms of, you know, on the u. n. fi shopping and sort of the you came in europe in countries. i don't really want to leave any country, but pretty much the whole world has come to help,
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right? but as i said now, the skill of the graces is 33000000 people, as the number of dense required is in millions. and the number of tents available is in hundreds of thousands at best. so that's the, that's the gap. how do for the gap, the world is not prepared to fill that gap and that is, and therefore a, you know, to me, this is literally a knock from whether you, you know, believe in the law as we do or mother nature, who, whatever nomenclature, use, great this is a weak up god and dime has already run out. but if he do not see this as easy grid warning off tings to come within the same season, literally march onwards because dance or forest fires, pakistan saw severe drought conditions. pakistan saw 3 degrees then to grid. higher temperatures are that one of the hot to summers they'd be the overhead in some areas. far water than was ever even noted. there was glacial melting in the same
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area that we currently have drought, there was heavy. oak currently have floods. there was heavy drought conditions. so if you see at this scale of all of that, you realize that this is, is serious climate change event. on august, the international monetary fund approved the additional $1100000000.00 in bailout funds to pakistan. now, as is often the case with i'm if laws there are condition the condition is often austerity in this case, and fatal steady work, one or conditions of the government under prime minister, chabarise sharif has eliminated fuel and power subsidies and diesel pump. prices have gone up by almost 60 percent of people are struggling with double digit inflation yet in august are prime minister, so that pakistan is called economically in sleeved by the iron ma'am. so then why take the money look and this is how it works,
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right. you need macro economic stability for the country to have a chance in order to have macro economic stability. you need a fun program to be able to enable under funding sources to, to come. this is how the financial bill will architecture works. you know this better than i can explain to you. now when we have the floods in pakistan and floods of a biblical proportion. ok. so this is an extraordinary event, not on the pakistan scale. this is an extraordinary event on the global scale. this is in the rent which was not triggered by irresponsible behavior of pakistan. this was an event which was triggered by response civil behavior for decades of industrialization, but did not happen to having mike on to or the poor. 33000000 people or ny experi on the receiving end of it. having said that, what do you expect these 323000000 people to do to have 1st down into floods? now down into conditionality is an extraordinary event. like this requires extraordinary response. my fear is having seen how the structures work,
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that we will come in crumbs of ordinary responses. and my fear is that the people who have drowned in this floods the cranford beetle less for them. right. and where is now you could avoid to problem by rebuilding resiliency in an adaptable, mad with adaptation as it score and give hope. but our concern is that when it comes to the hard phase of the building, resilient years, we want to, when the numbers are to the tune of $30000000000.00, just a replacement cost. not the rebuilding boss. perhaps you then how far, how, how shot would be fall. and if we fall short, what would be the cost of that? it will not only be to plug a sign, it will be to everyone i did indeed. so, so there's the question of what we do if we don't receive funds, right? that's the question that you've addressed. but there's also a question of what happens when you receive funds and you can end up in a very familiar cycle, which is that you receive, i am a funding, you get conditional as assistance and you end up trapped in a kind of cycle of,
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of receiving this stuff, but not necessarily improving, not necessarily developing because of all the commitment you've made in order to receive the conditional funding. i could and i'm not so fond of the commitments if he me, for other people sick. i'm fond of commitments at the stake that he me for up on people's sake. i think this whole a cycle of are trying to appease other people's commitments rather than to commitments to young people is a bad cycle. and this is the real world doing their architecture works right? so they'll be all this been just analogies attached by different headquarters want to now creator project, which will, which will appease their conscience more than the realities on the ground in some ways. and by the time it hits the ground in pakistan, it's perhaps not really according to the requirements of the people of focus on. right. it's a typical sake of we need to come up with a model at, in, in, in the project days, mod, which is not only sellable, but it is something which builds in adaptability resilience,
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but is also fully in tune in line with the demand and needs of the people and not only catering to the needs of, you know, what we may consider the funding be coming from, right. would you make of the argument that mega projects such as dams have actually worsened natural disasters? do you worry that pakistan's card investments and mega projects versus the kind of climate resilient local infrastructure approach is putting people in nature? okay, that's interesting approach, right? because about 10 years from today, or 12 years from today, because i wanted to start telco projects with goldman finance fund funding and financing. and we were told or we do not do cool anymore right now. so it was fine for all the developers to have done called but when it focused on wanted to exploit its own natural resources, you know, to be able to provide elect, you know, energy. and we were unable to do that with funding from the world bank. i believe that into what you have to look at is cumulative, responsibility, cumulative emissions. so if i'm in the matter 20 years back and i have emitted at
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will. and now i'm going to not be the price for it, but have developing countries with law. you know, capacity and low resources to pay the entire price of my emission. so i, you know, confused like you see that you guys had a conflict happens and people that started their code plans again. so we are not allowed, and they are allowed. so there's an element of unfairness in all of this. back in 2010 of floods killed early, 2000 people. i said that they pack son's been here before 11000000 people were displaced in as well. and yet, amid us, so as the climate and water expert on pakistan said that in 2022 quote, there's just nothing in pakistan in terms of disaster resilient infrastructure and that people were literally left to fend for themselves. now your party was in power for 3 years after the 2010 floods that critique applies to you in your
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party. no, no, i would like to really be able to ask her. the 2nd questions that would be required to be asked that will do called resilience and with and readiness. so for country experiences, if new york city today babysitting manhattan, the heart of the word of the developer right was to were to get for it is each 100 percent more than that typically does drone. right? the typical couch materials which received once when fun of rain and flooding in the sun did not receiving the toy, there was still in doubt position. so we are still looking at it from a, from a, from a month from that's where this is a climate. is there anything that could have been done, or are there any infrastructure perspective, from an infrastructure perspective, much more can be done? absolutely. what could have been done? so then let me tell you very clearly what could have been done and what will be done as we rebuild in china. so that the thing to notice is that the typical areas which receive one soon did not receive the same amount of rain for the de,
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typically. so this happened in and it typically indian and non typical area. now despite having said that, what we need to do is that wherever we build back, we have channels to make sure that the flow of water can be management better than it. good. and we build back infrastructure in the we, for instance, some of the schools withstood rate that you build back in the way that they can survive such severity of water. and, and the fust bro do must be to ensure that the water can be channeled better. but please understand the enormity of the challenger time, 32000000 people. i will, i will share this with you. a lot of people came on the tv screens and then you go to them and said we received nothing and did not like they actually did not receive anything. how can you fit 23000000 people all at the same time when we went to the whole world and the horrible came out, opened their hearts opened this story. just give us whatever dense they had. you know how many tents we received less than the 1000000. you know, how many people were dismissed? 32000000. so i think the globe, the global order,
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is ill prepared to be able to deal with what is coming of a i am not guilty. this is an android partners pharmacy is facing an economic crisis. and yet it was announced in june that the country would be increasing its defense budget by 11 percent. or at the same time, it reduced the allocation for its public sector development program by 19 percent. why the government chosen to increase military spending rather than allocating those funds for the necessary infrastructure to protect people from the high mccracken? sure, i could not say that that's rude, that you want to go at all. i think the trend had been in progress on that bridge. military spending was actually decreasing. now here also when it comes to real terms, i think the increase would be very, very minimal. just to keep up with existing infrastructure. and that's why it's really important, and therefore i was in the session which was on humanitarian assistance. and they kept on talking about how the my doing assistance needs are increasing. and i said
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that from one side we are feeding the bees to creating humanitarian assistance requirements. more because conflict is increasing economics, television is increasing. climate change to good events or increasing reading nothing to deal with the crisis with the, with the reason with the this is for the christ, whether it's climate change or economic starvation for crisis has been triggered by all conflict in our region. conflict is right now being triggered in some ways because with climate change, we still the biggest threat to national security at this point, right? mean it suddenly, right in 2015, the us conducted a drill, simulating an earthquake in the indian ocean, and it was found that the sooner the ways from an earthquake could reach karachi in one and a half hours and wipe out the entire city. again, we're going to have large military, if karachi, the economic backbone and main city water, you know, to be honest, the things have changed in our region, right? i mean, since 971, we really did not have an active conflict. if you don't take
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a few minor conflicts, take them away. ah, but on to years back off we had from a neighbor military jets into pakistan, years this proclaimed focus on the air space into our territory and into a territory. and then back and neutral on it was proven that the claims that the made of a, you know, going after terrorists outfits, et cetera. none existed on the cheese, existed over there. right now when something like this happens, i cannot make the case with that. you don't need military spending anymore. i need we need to have jets, which are in a position to be able to fight back. so then you have confrontations, leg that you are in need. you are ensuring that our, i wish i own a desire to be able to swore will be completely from that type of spending and go into serious, you know, adaptability of forget it. up to bolivia. mean adaptability is the middle part of
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what we need to do, but this also we're still struggling with proper education infrastructure, proper health infrastructure, proper route and farm to market roads. proper economic infrastructure rates in the country like this, which has many, many places to spend its reason is forced to re look at, you know, military spending again. and, and if you'd notice, i mean all over the world military spending is currently being celebrated as in it and critique. i honestly held critique all over. right. i mean, we're the, i know, mark, i think it was a dime when it was being critiqued. but right now, if you look at that, you know, i think trump also started talking about what the central g d p. are you spending on military and now everybody celebrating? yes, we are increasing military spending in those countries which were not carrying large armies. and now carrying are showing intention to so we are actually feeding the be straight now. and this is a dime when really, i think there will be more or less for us to conduct wars. and then i think the
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secretary said something to this extent in this, and i have to say that i understand that the, the u. n. may not be the most celebrated body right now. but to have deep respect, deep abiding requests for into a new get earth for at least seeing the red stuff rate alpha calling out where we are falling miserably, miserably behind. then what leadership requires right now in terms of, of fighting for the s d, g 's fight fighting for rear rear climate change. not only adaptability financing, but looking at the whole architect and saying that, why should we not be ahead of the co way behind by behind the cove hinora bunny car . thank you so much for joining us. extra. yeah. ah, is the amazon at a tipping point? in brazil under president jeered boston. otto deforestation has intensified significantly specifically in indigenous areas increasing by more than 138 percent
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during his 1st 3 years in office. in recent years, we've also seen a traumatic uptake in mining agribusiness and land grabs while indigenous rights have been undermined. but deforestation, and its impact on communities is more than a moral quandary. what happens in the amazon doesn't occur in a vacuum. it affects all of us, and it is affecting us now. so the question is, are we headed down a path of no return? joining us to discuss this from keith though ecuador is elisia guzman. she is deputy director of the amazon program at stan. that earth is also one of the lead researchers on the report amazonia, against the clock. and from sao paulo brazil were joined by tasso acevedo, technical coordinator for oversight of authorial de lima and former director general of the brazilian fart service. thank you both for joining me on up front elisia. i'm going to start with you. according to the data presented in the amazonia report, from 985 until 2020, 26 percent of the amazon has undergone transformation. most of it categorized as
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the global temperature could rise by 0.25 degrees. does means that we probably can't achieve the, the buyer's agreement in terms of, you know, climate change. so for example, if you take, if you take it the amazon off the equation, we lose 30 percent of the rainfall in the country. so we can see that those impacts starting to happen and right now. so it seems that deforestation is largely the consequence of economic drivers. if we look at brazil just as an example, the country's national debt is about 78 percent of the g d p. up some argue that mining oil extraction and stuff like that in the amazon is needed in order to bolster in emerging market. but what do you say to politicians who are pushing these solutions as the response and as a wave easing, the states economic woes. i mean, we can use the real data from the past to show that this in, oh,
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there is no connection with when one thing in the other necessarily. so if you see like between 20042012 in brazil, the deforestation of the amazon dropped down 80 percent, 80 percent. and that was the last period of economic growth in brazil. so we were growing 4 to 5 percent a year in terms of g d p, for example, the debit was coming down. the exports are including from agriculture products and mining products exploded. so what i think is that when you have a cease deforestation in brazil, many 8 percent of the deforestation have elements of illegality before stations link a lot with lack of governance. so if you have a good governance in the country, you will have deforestation coming down and good governance is absolutely important to have a, a health economy. so i think that's decreasing. deforestation is a drive for a better economy and not the opposite. early say your report lays out solutions for
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preserving 80 percent of the amazon by 2025. and it points toward forgiving existing debt in exchange for protections of indigenous territories and, and, and of course, priority areas as well. why do you see debt forgiveness as opposed to other policies? is such a key move for preventing further deforestation? it is not either or we have to start thinking of systemic solutions. many of the supply chains, oil, leather, and others that are um, that fuel destruction in the amazon e. r m come from industrialized nations. so for example, 89 percent of the oil in the amazon is producing equity or, and most of it goes to the us and their european banks in both us back in bo, there's us banks involvement. and there are many oil companies and inter
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mediators that work in the, in the supply chain. so talking about debt forgiveness, it's a good way to involve multilaterals bilateral debt and also the private bonds just to acquire more consciousness of from the linkage between the global north and the global south. and how we all are responsible of what's happening. well, this is an issue on absolute critical concern. i thank you both for joining me to weigh in on it. so at least thank you so much for joining me. all right, that is our show up for will be back next week. ah, ah, a country with high youth unemployment, one organization helps turn school children into entrepreneurs who can tell us what
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problems in the amazon because their consumers, i teach kids about the threats that our oceans are facing today. i've been working in earnest, trying to find ways to get this language up to them. kids went away, do as the ocean. why and what are you going to do to keep out of state, the sort of language that keeps the rental blood women, right. say that they have one, several back over their fight for equality and gotten america. and i was told the thing that was texting women, we made a challenge in the region. i will not stop being thrown away. i won't sleep, we don't have read them evinced on these about 2 weeks now. i say 3 days, journey to a show club. we wish them to grow so and destroys our country and someone needs to rebuild ah.
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