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on here is involved in ensuring the village has enough to eat with the older generation, passing on their knowledge about cooking and farming them. i got now i cooked vegetables from the garden. whatever grows i never traveled. i do stay here and keep for me. the residents recently agreed to open their village for tourism, but they say they will only allow visitors as long as they don't disturb their constance until how young are a positive impact. mid one. it is a good example for others to learn from the way they ease how they take care of their village and the environment asked why they think people here lived such long lives. most resident say happiness is just as important as diet and exercise the boss. what you're will, hello, i just lived simply and i have never wanted to be rich or own a car. my heart is free and happy. most of the seniors have never left the village . and nor do they want to. they say they already have everything they need. jessica
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washington out, a 0 in mid one village, west java. ah, this is out there are, these are the top stories now. nato's secretary general wants member states to send more air defense systems to ukraine. this week has seen some of the biggest russian air strikes across ukraine since the start of the invasion. 12 cities were targeted nato defense ministers on meeting in brussels to discuss the conflict. natasha butler has more from brussels. lloyd austin said that sir, ah, he had gathered together 50 countries. this is part of this ukraine or defense contact group, a group of 50 members that look at ways that they can best help and support ukraine . he says, look, the fact that we're all here shows that rules matter that rights matter. he said that sovereignty matters. or he said the contact group had a very interesting and or perceive very significant meeting. they looked at ways in
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which they can try and send more weapons to ukraine as one of the main reasons behind this group that was set up after or putin's invasion of you crate. it cranes, energy minister says russian missiles of hit around 30 percent of the countries energy infrastructure round $300.00 areas with f without power following the russian attacks. on monday and tuesday, the mayor of the city, the river says it will take months to repair energy facilities that russia's president said, europe is to blame for its energy crisis that in their fruit, in said gas could still be supplied by one intact part of the nord stream to pipeline, but germany cancel the project off to russia, sent troops in to ukraine. palestinians in the shower, thought refugee camp and occupy the east jerusalem of protesting against a siege by israeli forces. israeli army has blocked entrances and exits since saturday, after a soldier was shot dead in an attack. at one of the checkpoints, prosecutors and peru have lodged a complaint against present pedro castillo,
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accusing him of leading a corruption ring. for these detained a father of his allies. they rated several houses, including that of the precedence sister castillo had denied any wrong doing. india has halted production pharmaceuticals actually have to cough. medicine produced there was linked to the death of children in the gambia. it follows a medical that issued by the world health organization last week. it w h o warned cove syrups made an india could be linked to the deaths of nearly 70 children in the west african state. those are the headlines of the news continues here. now, just here after inside story, stay with us. ah,
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russia threatens more strikes as the warren you try and seems close to a new turning point. the escalation came after the bombing of the cursed bridge blinking rushes mainland to the crimea. he is now seeking more military aid. so what direction will this will take next? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm tom a cry. russia launched a wave of missile strikes on several regions of ukraine this week, killing at least 20 people. the capital key was among cities targeted for the 1st time in months. ukraine's military says it shot down 41 of 75 missiles, but that wasn't enough to stop the destruction. it's energy minister says russian
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missiles hath it around 30 percent of the countries electricity infrastructure over the past few dies, around $300.00 areas were knocked off the power grid. the mayor of the western city of lavell says it will take months to repair energy facilities. there, well, those strikes happened in response to an attack last week on the coach bridge linking crimea to the russian mainland. russia security service says it's arrested 8 people. it's federal security services. the blast was organized by ukraine's military intelligence service. the explosion destroyed a fiction of the bridge cave hasn't said whether it was involved. and g 7 leaders held a virtual meeting to discuss what they called their unwavering commitment to ukraine . they promised they would hold russian president vladimir putin to account for the missile attacks ukrainian president volota me zalinski asked the group to supply keith with
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a defense weapons. he's described it as his number one priority now. yeah. one is if i thank you for all the help already provided it is big, it is significant. but the russian leader, who was now in the final stage of his rain, still has room to 3rd escalation. this possibility is a threat to all of us, but we can overcome the threat. we have a formula for pace, and now reacting to russian terror, shame, referenda, and the attempt to an excel territory. we can apply the pace formula so that the terror state stands no chance enough. ah, well let's bring in our gifts now in strasbourg, alexi gone sharika. he is a member of the ukrainian parliament and the ukrainian delegation to the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, from geneva, alexander vor. trevor's editor in chief of swift, military review, and security and defense policy analyst. and from moscow,
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andre backlit of vice chair of the association of russian diplomats, and the former russian ambassador to saudi arabia, a warm welcome to you will. thank you very much for being on the program. it's 1st to begin with what's happened so far before we move on to how things might play out from here. just in regards to the latest strikes on ukraine over the last 48 hours or so on. sure, i'd like to begin with you. the russian ministry of defense, the goal of the strikes was achieved and to quote, all designated objects were hit. so can you explain one missile hitting a children's playground in cave was that a designated object? was a legitimate target? well actually oh of course the, the targets are only the measure where you should be sure just. busy bring it
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or rush, but also i would want to reach or bridge actually only be you thanks so much because there were many people many ordinary people criticizing. busy duration for when speed you know this saying that the source to make then then there was no. busy reasonable decision
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taken by the president to the doctor these last major city and. busy general, the innocent people people will do. and so what happened was some sort of the war. okay. well i went back there, search on intentionally each each day, intentionally the lenient side and then it started bob. the other regions are which many, many people are dying each day,
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do do well and they're making these eventually, well, that's out of the better side of the store. ok, alexey, you'll country men and women and living through these is trucks. many who haven't been attacked in months like even levine, haven't had it strikes since near the beginning of the war. so how difficult is it watching on and has it rattled the public their d? thank 1st of all, i want to add to what i heard. 910 people were killed. no one of them is the army officer, old soldier, though very interesting. designated military targets russian. russia has the russia, the terrorist state, that's all. and which is the we to, we know where you're grania an army, so he takes revenge on ukraine and women and children intervene and their residence before cities. that's their relative for sure. we are very much concerned about what had happened. that was the brutal attack on the infrastructure managing
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infrastructure. very interesting to listen, that it was a ritual asian for something for what russia is making war against the grain from 2014. then the full scale invasion from february 24. so what do a deletion they're looking for? they just make in colonial. busy aggressive work, that's all about. yes, people are concerned about. now we can the whole course penny can you grade, but it's not the case. the grey notes are already prepared. we know with we deal. we understand that for us, it's a show we didn't want to wipe, wipe out your brain from the map of the planet. you're committed, genocide and russia commits in genocide against your brain now. ok? by a territory. so we're, we're not penny. or we, we understand we are confident in our victory now. so we are rebuilding everything we need and are sure we're address and draw our partners and at least to provide
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you granted with more weapon rate to stop this, jerry. ok. alexander, do you think that these latest strikes in ukraine about hitting, legitimate military targets, or is it about scaring the ukrainian population? allow me to remain neutral after these 2 periods of comment. i'll just remind you of what international law and convention say targeting deliberately, civilian infrastructure or critical infrastructure such as sewage installations or electrical power plants that are going to be necessary for life and health. so civilian population, noncombatants, it's technically a war crime. so i can only stress that it is very and most unfortunate that such collateral damage has taken place. what i do see with regards to the
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latest strikes from russia is 2 things. first of all, both sides are now ending the battle and fighting very, very much deeper into terra, into the land territory. far away from the front lines the ukrainians are doing this because their fans is either in the north or in the south is now closer and closer to the russian border. and they are targeting logistical supply for russian forces. and on the other side, russia is now targeting targets or infrastructure deep within western ukraine because russia seals that this is where the ukranian army building up and training. it's comes credits and receiving news war. and so i can only say that both sides are actually extended the area that they are striking
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with their long range weapons. ok, let's take it back just into, i guess what? brought on the latest round of it strikes the, the attack on the crummy bridge, the curse bridge. now, andre, russia climbed the bridge, was impenetrable. to attack it with her jewel and putins crown. so what happened and how embarrassing is this to russia will bless them. visions, i'm sure the sort of measure people are well now. busy i think it's fair to last time that it will be real change of the situation. since all of us, of the nation do with a deep i mean,
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these are the percentage of damage to their business worrying warnings. and these are the start of the, the new or new or the national federation will be. busy no less than 2 months john, when the regiments farming. busy around us. well we should do that. we bring exactly as many as we go from the nazi not over. busy origin no german origin was liberated at the 2nd was or was 20 times your. busy the one did you know, we started a very, very limited number of the, of the,
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of the much less than the revenue train and so limited duration. it might be that the staff will be more wants to go. okay. well, you know, russia has said that ukrainian security services are responsible for blowing up the crimea bridge. alexander perkins called negative tara, what do you think happened? how do you think this bridge was attack so successfully? you know, one of my, a fuser study in academia was military and political incidence. and what i can say is it will take some months and perhaps years in order to figure out what exactly happens. what we can say is that the official, a story that has been told of a truck carrying exclusives and producing this kind of damage. this official
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version does not to does not hold off the nations that were necessary in order to produce this kind of damage or either large bombs. we were talking about several 100 kilos. were we are talking about to liberate a special forces attacks. so whatever has effectively happens in order to cut that bridge, the official story that we have been told of a truck blowing up is not correct. in any case, ukraine has now demonstrated on at least 2 occasions that they have the ability to strike deep behind the lines of russian troops. and this is extremely worrisome for the russian war effort. because the train, for example, that's called fire, that was stuck for more than a day on this particular bridge and was carrying 1600000 liters of fuel. this is
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the kind of fuel is necessary to sustain the tree operations in the south and the car san region for 2 days. so definitely what we can expect very soon is to see ukrainian troops mount offensive in the summer each and care song area to try and gain an advantage from the sole inc. i was the russian forces in the south . like, let's just move on slightly to what ukraine is asking for. now, the g 7, a nato, a discussing what more can do to help ukraine litzy litski. in fact, am, you know, now her secretary general has said it was a top priority. so how heartening is it to, to hear that help is on the why and what exactly are you asking for? are you getting enough? yeah, 1st of all, we are very thankful for all support we are receiving and answering your question, is it enough with simple enough will be when there will be final victory on the
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battlefield. that will be enough. and today we have a unique window of opportunity. what i mean for ukraine in the end of march would have been read, but we have today. hi marcy, hope it serves then everything, all of these were, would be finished in the spring when russian forces were retreating from key af, after failed. belief that towards the moment for us to show them, but unfortunate that the moment had not with about to chase them. and then they changed the tactics. replenish, refreshed, started this 1st world war and style warfare, drange war lords for tillery jose destroying new food and into rubble. ukrainian cities. now, now we have again, the moments you for your grand today now will receive long range missiles to hi mar . 10th. because for the moment we. 3 haven't received any one west and
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we could finish everything in weeks. i really believe in the because 123 and more military defeats for just resent would not survive minister. catastrophe near you. after their catastrophe and your son, the region they resume is shaking. and this is the moment to finish it. ok, alex and you are a military expert. do you agree with that? that would be over in weeks if you cry and got everything it was asking for. no, i do not believe so, but i believe that i have lost tremendous amounts of personnel and in particular material, both sides have lost more than 50 percent of the equipment which they have started confrontation. what we are seeing, however, is that russia is trying to move military equipment out of its stocks out of its reserves to modernize this equipment is also mobilizing troops and sending these
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troops into battle with very, very little training. and on the other side, you have the ukrainian military forces have been able to not only stop the russian advance, but they have been able, in several areas to make deep counter attack, deep stripes within the russian lines that are now completely the stabilizing front class. so what i would say is that we are speak ukrainian military being refurbished with more and more nato. and i would not be so optimistic. but i would definitely say that in the spring of next year, the ukrainian military will not look at it does today. it will have more and more nato or western and also the troops that it has mobilized february and march, and the goal and here have now received a lot of very good training. and so the balance is now shifted and the ukraine military forces is gaining. it has not only stronger in terms of numbers,
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but also in terms of quality. compare with russian forces, just sticking with weapons and the most destructive of all nuclear weapons have been talked about more in the last week or so than probably through the rest of the war. combined. joe biden said the risk of nuclear. i'm a given as the highest in 60 years. andre, you are in russia. do you agree with that statement? doesn't feel like we're potentially on the brink of and you, claire war. actually with the region we didn't explored newer, very wanted one percent. said gas. busy did you believe the brand is just eliminated operation loss, but unfortunately, unfortunately the game show more and more ration
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as soon as the next, you know, beats the defeating all the question lives. and the promises that the rest of the doctors are going to do. they will not be professional or real, but you know, just to bring what to do. so this will start as a big one of the so why we did not. busy deep, that's why many or citizens are such mild manner of the development of this is also i would love to see something else. that's what we're discussing. it's not just of the new ration. so different
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terms off for instance, for ever is like my mother used and then it's like well to the brain and. busy well, you know, because of the development of the situation and the it did not prevents development of the specialist and that i can give a war. okay. before we finish, i just want to talk briefly about diplomacy because there's been a lot of tough talk. you know, from all sides, especially ukraine as well. so lensky city is not going to negotiate with person. alexi. do you think that there is any space at all the negotiations? and when do you think that could begin for us to, you know,
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rush and their representative is saying that they're not using all their mind. but the question is, what, for, in this case, they're making mobility ation in back country from which hundreds of thousands of them are running away from russia. that's like a port fills of their resume when russians are running from russia, listening about bleeding hearts from the. busy what's happening so you, they acumen up and saying that their hearts of bleeding. wow, it's something very impressive. speaking about diplomacy, it's very clear. fujen caught all ways to diplomacy. he destroyed it with this decision to accept our territory and to knowns, to green and territory russian. nobody in the world accepted this so called chevron brenda. nobody will ever accept it and about what we can negotiate today. we will never give up our territories. we will come to come to leave minnows, ukrainians under genocide. so the only way now for us it's really great our land.
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so we are ready to any negotiation any moment, but about in russia retreating from our territory. we don't want any prussian territory, but we will never give up any of ours. does that include crime in for sure, growing easy grain internationally recognized by the whole world and by russia? russia during the 27 years before the 2nd graham year, many, many time. 23 years story, a signed document, but they recognized that ukraine, the grey me at ukraine and they recognized our borders many time. and also they gave a guarantee 1994. when we voluntarily gave up the biggest nuclear arsenault in the world for the 1st time in human history, under the guarantees that they will never attack up. but you see what does it cost russian guarantee and date. andre, just very briefly, persons mentioned that he may be open to meeting with us president joe biden. how
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serious is he in? how likely do you think that is to happen? well, actually to be something over the meeting, but i'm not quite sure, but that's great. any, any other positions, and now we're getting the very much i'm central in each of the on the side of the 3, if you just various limited grounds for the us russians, a successful leadership trying to over several situations in the last. thank you very much to allow guests alexi gone to ranko alexandra vall, trevor's and andre back then,
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