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of land that you ation orders were issued across 3 states in western new south wales, highways and rail lines had been cut off in the state of t as many a rainfall records had been broken after 2 days of toronto rain. this is a 2nd major flood of bits, this with cranes land and new south wales, devastated by what was described as right in february this year. and it's not expected to be the last. the bureau of meteorology has warned that only thing the weather event bring with it. heavy rain. i was summer. the worst of the rain may have passed, but authority say some river systems are expected to pig in the coming days. and then there's the clean up. sarah clark, al jazeera brisbin australia. now an italian musician has played his saxophone to give himself more energy, or surgeons operated on his brain. lou
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surgeons at a room hospital car without the complex procedure lost in wine hours to remove a tumor. the music helps the patient with his endurance, but so called awake surgery also allows real time monitoring and attention damage caused during a brain. oh i this is out here and these are the top stories. now. britain's prime minister this trust, so sacked her chancellor and made another major policy. you turn, the government has now abandoned plans to cut corporation tax. she says she's trying to reassure markets after many budget spooked investors. but it is clear that parts of our mini budget went farther and faster the markets were expecting. so the way we are delivering our mission right now has to change. we need to act
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now to reassure the markets of our fiscal discipline. i have therefore decided to keep the increasing corporation tax that was planned by the previous government . this will raise $18000000000.00 pounds per year. it will act as a down payment on our full medium term fiscal plan, which will be accompanied by a forecast from the independent b. all we will do whatever is necessary to ensure death is falling as a share of the economy. in the medium term, he is present, reject her one as ordered officials to study russia proposal for regional gas in the country. russian president vladimir putin, the says it offers the best route to redirect gas to the off the north stream. python was damaged. leaders have been meeting and because it's done this week who's not announced there are no further plans for military liberalization. pretty much
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it on the show. now there is no need for massive strikes. the other goes to a chief. now, out of i think 29 objectives, 7 have not been hit. the way the defense ministry planned that dealing with them. these objectives, there's no need for massive strikes, at least for the moment, for now, as for the future. and we'll see with us organs 500 people have died in nigeria, west floods in a decade, unusually heavy rains that to the destruction of tens of thousands of homes. as are the headlines, news continues haron al jazeera. that's off the inside story. stay with us. ah large parts of northeast and nigeria underwater,
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hundreds of people have died in the worst flooding in the decade. and the release of water from the dam and neighboring camera has made it worse. so what's been the government's response? this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm tom a crime. ne, in nigeria is seeing some of its worst flooding and years. hundreds of thousands of homes have been destroyed and at least $500.00 people have died across several states. more than a 1000000 others have been displaced. many communities have been cut off and unable to reach out for help. the flooding has washed out. nigeria is food growing regions and flooded its oil. producing nyja delta. the government has issued several emergency evacuation notices, but local site,
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they have nowhere to go. those who survived are becoming increasingly desperate for help. we'll get to our guests in a moment. first started this update from ahmed address and an amber state and southern nigeria. here in weary conditions for the displaced are getting desperate with just 2 hours to sunset. food is served in this camp. the deficiency now accommodates hundreds of people. missed food. yeah. it's not, they're not for me for about 3000 people and that is here. 1000 people did that on the food i knew about it from time to other to was she says they haven't received an or leave supplies from government. this is flights of ravaged at least 27 of nitrous, 36 state destroying lives, crops, and horns in ridges like a number of fishes here. tell us at hundreds of thousands of people in several communities are still out of rich. nothing has been heard from some of them in
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nearly a week, and the passengers of a boat that capsized a week ago killing about 9 to people while fleeing their submerged communities in sight of help. emergency agencies had warned of destructive floods this year. but the level of government preparedness was poor. so to was people's response to evacuation warnings that has left victims like kitchen any wondering what the future holds. alabama my to my home. i can imagine there's nothing to go back to if my house is left standing, my animals crops, everything is gone. for my did, you know, i number is one of the worst defective states. officials say the danger signs have been there yet. the federal government has failed to act. cameroon wants about this . and so we know that every 2 or 3 years this happens, demerell would open up the damn. and then it comes, yeah,
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i wipes off everything. i mean it gonna get to a point where the, what i walk on man, enveloped entire country. nigerian officials say humanitarian supplies have been distributed nationwide. but that is little comfort for hundreds of thousands who are yet to receive any help from government at any level. how many degrees al jazeera or torture lays we heard the flooding has been made worse by seasonal rain and plant water release, from a dam and neighboring cameroon. lago damn is in northern cameroon, and was built in 1982. nigeria was supposed to build its own dam to offset the excess, but never finished. it will. every few years water is released from the lago damn, and spills into the banu river. that then floods the river and its tribute trees that flow into nigeria, or even with advance warning the water from the dam, affix 13 flood prone states and nigeria, many of which supply the rest of the country with grain and oil.
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ah, let's bring in our guests now in the namibian capital vine hook, solomon adama, nigeria is minister of water resources and in a boucher david, a renzi, a climate activist and renewable energy specialist, a warm welcome to both of you and just a note we did invite some one from the cameron government to join us on the show. a but i declined a david. i want to start with you a festival. you your the edge. can you just give us a bit of an idea of just how bad the flooding is. thank you so much for having the show and such a pleasure to be at this time. however, it's not a pleasant experience for those who are currently in nigeria and who are expressed in the impact of the flood. and, and i would say for example, i'm in a boucher, i blew job stuff, but the, this cost will be for the past couple of weeks as
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a result of the flooding. you go back just some stay, some kilometers away from our booge out in the state. you have several trucks loaded with food stuff and produce livestock, which are also stuck on the road. you know, the floating has been packed that's been complete. the transportation of goods and services and people, you know, for one place to be another. you can also talk about the number of the lies on properties and houses that have been lost. you know, the last report i read from post n g, well by hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced on tens of thousands of people have lost their lives as the results are just flooding. and so it's, it's really a terrible way, shawn, it's not one that is exciting to see, you know, and i can tell you that millions of dollars, you know, in terms of services, good, you know, and business activities have been thrown down the drain as
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a result of this flooding situation happening across the mid, about the mid, about some states, some states to benway state to adama law who adored to delta state revise bios that you name it. it just got me bad. i think it's not good at all. yeah. think some of the pictures, the devastation is just so widespread. it's hard to believe and minister this more than 500 people a did. over a 1000000 people display many that al jazeera, have spoken to have said that they've simply been forgotten about. so what does the government doing to help them? although we scratch a very devastating situation, my condolences to all the people of most their families once and also most life you don't belong to
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it's an unprecedented floods. but let me say that almost on an annual basis, we always much april. we have the middle, the image organization comes out to give a forecast the climate situation which is suspected to it, the yes and i follow, or minister what i was just what we for the look where we bring out all the information on the partition areas that are going to be flooded. what are the floods have happened? it's difficult to, to, to stop flooding, but at least one is important. but this range, this should have been so president, it well above the fluctuation in 2012 gauge. you know how we get an interest in the local process was major. where in 2012 about the, the, the, the,
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the gates reading there was about 4 meters. but as for the 2, by the judge resist the pension went to, to meet us, which is like 12.5 inches or give me just about 10 to 12 level. so. busy suddenly. busy we haven't been to show you my 1st offense. busy busy damage meant which aspirated major. busy emergency authority, mamma, and i'm sure they are, they'd be the best. but it's to saw what will be the situation. the only area was on the basis of the is it where it's all over the country? if you take like the northeast where we have go or you will be states with florida gym, they're they, they don't know what to shed is the just the most remote to the next year. they
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also suffered the most to job on to process all over the country flood, played all the lessons come alive. and it's quite a challenge, but i'm sure that we'll be doing the best we can be to the, for governments. so to leave the show, you know, managing the disaster is much of my ministry, but of course our government and i'm aware that that's my husband, agency ministry or the best extent provides soccer. i'm das, some of the suffering. okay, david, just really quickly, do you think that the government's doing enough people they are on the ground getting enough? so when you look at the auction, but nigerian has taken and john government for example, has sensory integration to discuss a common room and had an animal you where the can read on governance,
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usually in from nigeria, about what they're about to needs, etc. water. a lot of that, that is, it's great to know, but what we can do mentally have is an infrastructure problem. because if the damn, the house or dancing done that was supposed to be, would have been billed. these, we've got the push on the spect. i give you some few 56 about this, this done because part of the reasons where we have disclosing the issue is when the, the, the, what are x is what i thinking from the law go down. i'm going to talk about camera begins to flow through the chip tributaries been read by niger, but i tell you that did down that was supposed to be built by the niger government several years ago was high. the capacity was supposed to be 2 and a half times the size of the logwood on which would have easily cushions the fact. i tell you again that it's not just 2 cushion defects of blood and,
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but this also had a number of economic, a couple of ability. one of it was, it was supposed to be able to show that generates not been less than $300.00 megawatts of electric. and by so doing a show that over provide you to provide the vacation services support for over a 150000. and when you look alone, you understand that this is just the structure that i need to set in place just as me to get flood and also help manage are flooding. actually, water that comes from come a room, but also infrastructure that could be proved. the last by lightning of those people, we've been just region and it's what that that was the so it is not, it's not a question of when we get the permission from the committee met nemo had confirmed that cameron hadn't even sense. and so my lot, you know, but then didn't read
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a lot to people who live in, i'm going about their business is to have to leave the location. it's not good enough because at the end of the day when the law didn't happen, when the destruction with a full of, of the impacts of the study occur when they come back to the business is do they need to really now you start from scratch. they lose their housing and the, the broker they live in the process. that is not enough. that's not, that's not a solution yet. i like to not a solution. we have them major structure program that needs to be fixed on it. but you know, every year we'll get the notification. yes, this is going to happen, but we need to speak this the 1st. we need to get this done. complete that we need to ensure that there cannot make activity that's supposed to be created as a result of this dom begins to come into play because without getting this thought or this, this solution in place will just be beating around the bush. i will double the
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solution to tackling this program. i know having researched for this program, a lot of your countrymen feel exactly the same way. david, just want to explain to the international audience that might not understand the region that well and the ac cameron built the damn themselves, the lago damn. at the same time. no, jerry was meant to build their own dam further down the stream that was proximately 2 and a half times the size of the camera. and he and dan, but that would add to the buffer to stop any overflow from the camera. and dan, but that has to this day, never been finished. i'd like to bring in our food gifts now from aberdeen in scotland, money, lou kinsey, a teaching fellow in politics and international relations at the university of evelyn. thank you very much for being on the program. money, can you explain from a chem rooney in point of view, why you think there has been so many issues around the both the cameras damn, but also the nigerian damn as well?
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yes. so it's good that you started by giving a little bit of background on how the infrastructure were supposed to be managed around this. so let's not kid ourselves. this issue. it's fundamentally a war time management issue. i know there the ministers talked about being the rains being unprecedented while yes, their rates are here this year. but all the ratings and reviews have been studied for so many years. and all of this is predictable. so you have issues or call a town planning in nigeria for water management nigeria and we go and i'm talking about a case of cumberland come room build and dam, anticipating nigeria to rest on we've done that. can manage to flow. conroy
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informs nigeria of it's necessity to release some of the water in the niger doors. nothing. and when they're floats come as they have come. nigeria tried to use cameras as the as date skim. good. so we have to be clear that this is an issue or, or governance for governance in terms of or been planning, as well as managing what is in nigeria. so what is a resource in my area? that should be my major t, as the on the speaker said this hass saving lives in terms of avoiding yours also have indication on economics. so if you went to your dom as nigeria supposed they will produce electricity, it will, which will then feed into the economy and the lives of people. so fundamentally, this is a poor governance issue,
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principally on the side of niger and minister. you're in charge of water resources for nigeria, it's been for decades. why hasn't the damn been finished? first of all, let me say that it's easy to, to, to, to label the label level down. if you were actually picking a date was kind enough to nature the other issue, there are plenty issues. and these are centered on the fact that we have a federal government for a system of government. so there are responsibility for federal government and their response from the states. i want to say that that is not just like with them . yes, it's a factor. so, but we don't need all the doesn't go down on a baby for us to be able to check the situation. we need so many doubts of the bid may try on the been a busy we did. we did to down guy, we need to down to rabbi with valor. in addition to the doesn't, doesn't house or
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w. i took it that they're talking about when we came into this administration 2015, that was a, that been an effort to start the process of construction. the doesn't cord of the planning aspect. well, the planning was very poor, so we have to start all over again. as i'm talking to, you know, their consultants working they've done the feasibility study led to design for us to be able to have it proper for design and a proper dumb project. ok, initially when we came in we were looking at the beauty arrangement with some contractors who wanted to build a hydro power competent along with it. but unfortunately, they said that the, when we checked that the, the, the financial model was suitable for them. yes, we did, the doesn't go under, but we don't the that's, that's your house. it was from this government has completed one of the prison which is should be like, one of the downside is to be checked. but this is
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a process that's going to take some time. i've been talking to you though we have signed and will use with several companies. we have to dance hydropower projects, hydro property at the plant, or even me. there's a local business $1.00 and $2.00. there's also a business out outland, business kids approved for cars and there are quite a number of smaller projects in addition to hopefully in the future the bill hydropower project, that's where we hope will come on strip. the problem is the big as so many tried to trees that have not been dumped. and therefore it's only about about like i let me say that can really just been truthful. we sign and we with them in 2016. we were supposed to be electron us on a regular basis. every yeah,
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we have the was to that i had because i was just going to check on them 2 years ago or 3 years ago they released the what does without you for me that i. busy just go and trade the provisions of them, of the work that we signed with them. we will have to write a purchase letter to their to, to the committee. you know what it is this year, we release the waters on october, september. but that's, that's not the only issue. it's not about the luck with release. the entire country has been flooded because of emphasis dental rates. like what is a factor, but it's not a significant factor. i let me say this, we have trans boundary. what does? yes, the most niger building, where they constitute only 20 percent of the total for what's offered to the country. 80 percent of the rest of the floor is actually generated within that i do a temporary for them and i will be just like all the the, the highlander public that's drained into the southwest region. okay. i guess,
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you know, there's a 1000000 people standing in water wondering when they'll be able to get back to their homes if at all they don't want to pay a blame game. they're just looking to the government to actually come up with a solution. so can you give us a timeline on when the day might be able to be finished? because we know that the cam meridians are going to continue to release water. so is there a day or a timeline that you can, that you can give these people that have, have lost everything in these last floods? you cannot, i've said that's the damage reported based on the issue, but that's important. and then the best strategy for this to be properly does, right? because if by the time you put it that way, so the, we want to put a, chances are the, you know, the what are, will you don't even possible come around. but there is a bow details, engineering steady going on, which i commission. and i feel that's all the stuff you need to be done so that the
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dumb does not become a problem. when did you supposed to be a solution that just went then we have it start to do that? we're looking at reverse nyja for instance, frozen from spectrum. the hotel mountains, closer to 5 countries before come into the idea. a lot of it is in this era, so it comes with lots of city. well, already plenty more details master plan study for the $340.00 was major, be me so that we can introduce some real trading solutions way forward and maybe also reclaim some, some, some areas and provide so that we get show channels within the rebates, as is just to be several thickets ago, when we do that, we feel that by doing the capacity of the channels, we must be, we can get some, some of the problem is there is, there is,
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what was the solution. what else was management is tough and it takes yes. you really when you start to program, you can take tickets before you able to complete it. ok? a money. we're going to go to you now, just before we finish up this program, what do you make of the minister there? i guess, alluding to the fact that the communication from the camera union side hasn't been what it should be. yes. so you could say that that's the case because like i said earlier on, there's a degree of a poor governance in this case. maybe signals are not picked or transmitted. they should be. and what did the minister is not saying, though, the minister has said a lot about accepting that a land lease or more pot or, or not. this one to minister pamela because he's not part of the sport for you is not talking well about would a town planning or city planning in nigeria,
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how people are building on flood plains, how even nigerian laws around building floor plans are not properly enforced? because this is part of the whole flaunting system, like you mentioned earlier, there are people standing in water asking what needs to be done or what could be done for them. and all of this issues have to be thought about in connection is not just about building dams or releasing water, but thinking about a holistic proof or process that money g 's water to protect people from floors, but also to contribute to economics. and from the camera inside of it, they can want to work on what the nigerians agree to do downstream. and what we can do in, in our cameras without thinking much about what is happening in nigeria. so the,
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both governments need an effective water management system commission or whatever that communicates on even a weekly or d. b. 's can manage what is a shared water resource for them. but we must emphasize that this is an issue way things have not been managed properly. for so many is just a saying order. now you would see that next year or be another florida and another minister will come and see exactly the same thing. so this is not new. so we need to, you need to us as the media who, what that meant is that accountable to make sure that this happens. okay, well that's exactly what we try to do here on inside story. thank you very much. minister, solomon adama, a david renzi and minute mckenzie for being on the inside story. and i thank you so very much for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com,
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